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Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 11:45am On Sep 26, 2014
nannymcphee: But you cursed someone for misconstruing a minister's statement(names withheld) as quoted by candour



Below is the person's response to u



then here is your response



You also offered this explanation when asked about the efficacy of your curse



Q1.pls can you help me put things in the right perspective?
read further down ma'am... i asked some things about Paul and Jesus. Can you please ponder on those too?


Q2.Why couldn't you act according to the admonition Jesus gave to the disciple who wanted to call down thunder in Luke 9
refer to the above reply.

54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.And they went to another village.
to put things in perspective, a to avoid derailing as i am not interested in the topic... compare what he said in that thread candour provided the link, and what he said here.

https://www.nairaland.com/1575992/god-bless-pastor-chris-oyakhilome

note, i had not this link in mind as at the time, now i know why the discuss went the way it went.

no further comment ma'am smiley

are you gonna continue on the topic of the thread on "touch not my annointed with relations to pastors" or you want to continue discussing a nairalander?
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 11:19am On Sep 26, 2014
Candour: So what did you curse him for? Why should you curse him in the first place? Have you forgotten your own words about mature sons not doing that?
like i said, i know where this is going. Nice one buddy! smiley

The thread is there for all to see my friend. Its beyond being a personal opinion.
amen

You do?? Pls make space for me beside you. Let me enjoy it too
you always welcome cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 10:48am On Sep 26, 2014
WinsomeX: If you have any question to ask, please go right ahead and do so. Is it not obvious to you that this lady has been ready for your questions since forever?
Hush buddy! Hush!
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 10:47am On Sep 26, 2014
SirJohn: I have one Sir, do you mind if I share? grin
Be my guest sir! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 10:45am On Sep 26, 2014
Candour: ]This means you're very immature because see you purporting to 'curse' somebody on another thread



https://www.nairaland.com/1892171/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-addresses-whole/22#26156679
Sir, go back to that thread and ruminate further, see reasons explained there, and by the way, it was not Pastor Chris that did it...I did not curse him for insulting Pastor Chris, now go back and see why! Stop twisting facts to suit your desires. smiley

And you persisted in the immaturity even after numerous corrections from well meaning individuals.
Your opinion sir, and you are entitled to one wink

This is without prejudice to the fact that your curse or any so called mog's curse on any christian is a futile exercise of the vocal cavity and empty rambling from the pit of self delusion. If you're an Eze nmuo or your mog is, let us know for that is another discussion.
I know where this is going, Let me sit down and enjoy this moment grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 10:38am On Sep 26, 2014
nannymcphee: You just did the same thing now, just that yours is subtle.

The verses I mentioned to u, did u see where curses where mentioned!!
2 Peter 2: 12 KJV
 12  But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption


I did nothing ma'am, like I said, God did not curse them, they did themselves without knowing
Christianity Etc › Re: (GODPROPHET) Olaye George Prophecies ,what Do Yo Think. by Gombs(m): 8:45am On Sep 26, 2014
Candour: Good





I'm sure you got the message





Of course he's a charlatan engaging in childish guessing and you're trying to defend him hence you're bold enough to compare those who doubt him to Israelites who doubted Moses and God.





Good



She's doing good for someone who wasn't instructed in English and will only get better than even some nairalanders who have been speaking and writing English all their lives.




You're obviously interested in knowing so much about her. You even boasted you know 50% of her already. You even confessed she interests you. I'm only trying to assist you in your quest wink




Don't you think its an overkill comparing an ordinary Austrian citizen with a career diplomat and the number 1 civil servant in the world? Also listen to ban ki Mon today and realise his spoken English sucks. I would rate Nora higher than Ban ki Mon considering all the resources, opportunities and privileges at Ban's beck and call




Of course another charlatan on the loose.





OK. I agree I'm no saint so let's both stop the bullying

Cheers
Alright buddy! smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: (GODPROPHET) Olaye George Prophecies ,what Do Yo Think. by Gombs(m): 8:05am On Sep 26, 2014
Candour: This Gombs can form!!! Spanish and french? Who dash you? Where you learn them? If its so easy like that, then in addition to your poor Spanish and French, I also speak Italian and German (though poor). Oya beat that!
Have you ever met me before? Do you know anything about me? It's like me doubting Goshen is in the States or Nora in Austria. If you speak those, fine, who am I to doubt? undecided

Pls stop displaying arrogant ignorance. What has been your language of instruction since you started school, most likely at 3? If your english isnt better than Nora's who obviously must have been instructed in German all her life, then you should bury your head in shame. At least she's conversing freely on a forum based on English language, can you do same on any forum in Spanish or French or Swahili which is African?
Your opinion, and you are entitled to one. smiley

Also, instead of you to continue your defence of the childish guesswork you call prophecy from your dear godprophet, you're busy attacking an Austrian's English. Haba, have you forgotten the title of the thread?
I should defend the prophecy? Did you read the title at all? It says, What do you think? not, "Godprophet was right". I said what I think, you should say yours, simple.

Abeg leave the woman alone jare. If anything, for the fact that her daughter is a volunteer in the fight against Ebola in Africa, she has earned the right to comment on an African forum.
1. I never said she shouldn't.
2. Polishing your English aint same as Stop speaking english.
3. Glad to know her daughter is a volunteer in the fight of Ebola, best wishes, didn’t however know there were criteria to comment on an African forum.
4. In other words, as Ban ki Moon is Korean, it's an excuse to have half polished English and comment in a public forum, and when advised to polish it up, his excuse would be he was tutored in Korean and not English, and his son is a volunteer somewhere in the world and hence has earned to write to speak or write anyhow?

Classic!

Oya, what do you think of the topic of the thread, comment or roll over. Thanks buddy!


Pls Stop the bullying.
You were just attempting to bully me now na... quit being a saint you aren't sir! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 7:29am On Sep 26, 2014
Well, my Boss just rang me I can resume today's work by 10am...Now, that's the Spirit working! Kenyan, let me know when you're ready! wink
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 7:20am On Sep 26, 2014
Alright, all is set for the interview, it would be a closed circuit interview, with precision. Kenyan, thanks again for the chance.

Would roll out the questions in few minutes time. Though this is a public forum, and I can't see your facial expressions, and I wouldn't know whether there is a third party communication, I however request we all be honest with replies. I'm the anchor 'interviwer', you are the interviewee, I throw the questions, you answer in all sincerity. I reserve the right to bring up your answers from other threads as regard the topic or issue.

Today's friday, my mornings are crowded, but 10am should be a perfect time, I however would not m7nd you picking a time after 10am ma'am.

I look forward to an exciting time. Cheers
Christianity Etc › Re: REACHOUT NIGERIA 2014-with Rhapsody Of Realities by Gombs(op): 7:14am On Sep 26, 2014
[size=20pt]4 days to go... Wonderful[/size]
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 6:11am On Sep 26, 2014
nannymcphee: I told you before, no mentioning of names!!
Sorry Ma'am
Are you telling me present day Christians don't lay curses on those who speak ill of christain ministers?
That's their level of knowledge, mature sons don't. Meanwhile if you insult minsters of the gospel for whatever reason, you walk in a curse, not that God cursed you, you walk out of blessings with/by your words and/or actions.
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:06am On Sep 26, 2014
Don’t Neglect Spiritual Details · Friday, September 26th ·

Pastor Chris

Take fast hold of instruction; let her not go: keep her; for she is thy life (Proverbs 4:13).

As you walk with the Lord, and carry out that which He instructs you to do, you must painstakingly pay attention to spiritual details because of their importance. Moses, for example, learnt this the hard way. In Numbers 20:8, God instructed him, "Take the rod, and …speak ye unto the rock…and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water…."

Moses didn’t know how important it was when God told him to talk to the rock. The instruction to speak to the rock was of spiritual significance which he ignored and struck the rock instead. It was the mistake of his life. The instruction seemed so light to Moses, but the rest of his ministry was hinged on it; he didn’t know it. Moses, however, wouldn’t be the one to lead the children of Israel to the Promised Land, because of this error.

In serving the Lord, it’s very important that you always listen to the details of His instructions, however insignificant to the flesh they might sound. God’s Word is God’s instruction. Live your life, not according to man’s instructions, information or opinions, but according to the Word. God leads you in the path of greatness by giving you clear and specific instructions to follow. It’s not about what somebody advises or instructs you to do; the question is, "What is God’s instruction in His Word about it?"

This is why I love the Bible, because it’s God’s instruction manual for a glorious life. 2 Timothy 3:16 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." Do you want to have an excellent life, full of glory and success? There’s a way: Follow God’s Word; don’t neglect the details in His instructions.

Always remember that His wisdom is greater than man’s wisdom; therefore, be sensitive to the guidance He gives you through the Word, and by the Holy Spirit, and you’ll have a beautiful and exceptional life, and gloriously fulfil His calling and destiny for your life.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for your Word, which has in it the ability to cause me to do what it says and be all that you want me to be. By the help of your Spirit, my heart is attuned to your directives and I’m guided to attend to even the minutest detail of your instructions, for therein lies the blessing of a glorious life in Christ, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study:
Proverbs 8:33;(KJV) Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.

Proverbs 23:12 (KJV) Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge.

1 Year Bible Reading Plan: Ephesians 3:1-21, Isaiah 19-22
2 Year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Timothy 2:1-10 Jeremiah 44
Christianity Etc › Re: (GODPROPHET) Olaye George Prophecies ,what Do Yo Think. by Gombs(m):
nora544: english ist not my mother toung and 2 speak to other foreign languages and german.
Neither is it mine, and I speak two other languages too, my Spanish and French are poor though!
Christianity Etc › Re: (GODPROPHET) Olaye George Prophecies ,what Do Yo Think. by Gombs(m):
nora544: you are the right one to write this.

I know you hate me because I write the truth
No ma'am, I am not capable of hate! I can't even if I want to. But what is worth doing is worth doing well... if you want to express in English, do it well. I correct alot of folks here, not because I hate them, but because I dislike struggling to read what someone wrote. grin

I like you so much that I've gathered 50% of info about you. You interest me ma'am
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 8:38pm On Sep 25, 2014
WinsomeX: Gombs huh

How long does it take for an interview to begin huh huh
Soon buddy! We still talking
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 8:10pm On Sep 25, 2014
nannymcphee: Still waiting for answers to this
I didn't bother ma'am... in all those, Jesus was reported not firing back or threatening or such. How many times have you seen T. B. Joshua, Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Hinn, Copeland, etc... how many times have they threatened their accusers or rained brimstones on them?

Furnish me with examples if you have any.

I'm anticipating someone asking 'so Jesus and Those you mentioned are now same' or 'so, they are your Jesus now?'
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 4:22pm On Sep 25, 2014
Image123: Yet i think i recall his alter ego drumb, telling Gombs that he had outgrown that style of writing, whatever that means.
There's a word for such fellas.... someone mremind me please!
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 4:20pm On Sep 25, 2014
[quote author=nannymcphee]
I'm amazed at your response! My friend tried all avenue to get across to the pastor but could not, they were bared from entering the office complex, that's why he chose that extreme step
Was the above justifiable in your honest opinion?

There is no glitch, the company is a small company owned by the pastor
Exactly, he did no business with the church, but the pastor, why the show in the church? If he wanted to sue, who would your friend has sued? The church or the company?

What's his own story, he is the owner of the company, the client has paid him & he had refused to pay his workers
You see? You did not even care about his point of view, you are the judge and jury in your friend's case, convicting the defence cousel who you didn’t hear his side of the story. You passed judgement based on the story of the persecution cousel. Wonderful!

My friend called his friend who is an accountant in the clients firm, who confirmed the pastors company had been paid
You already had contradictory claims, new details makes it awry.

He didn't complain, it was testimony time & simply stated the facts, no commotion was caused, it was at that point, the visiting senior pastor told them(my friend & his crew) to see him after service
He didn't complain? What did he do? Preach? Exhort? Inspire? But anyways, you didn't say, if GEJ was sitting in that church that day, would your friend have dared?

Excuse me, why did the pastor Barr them from entering the office complex.
Ma'am, your judgement is clouded, your standpoint is what your friend told you, nothing else. Okay, were you there when the barr instructions were given? Or you went there with him and both of you were barred?

A pastor that could lie to a senior pastor?
Your opinion

What then can the elder do who is under the pastor?
Speak to te pastor on the claims of another fellow, if the pastor denies it or declines an explanation, it is on book your friend sought help from the church to persuade the pastor, and the pastor declined.

Excuse me, i have worked for 6momths & you refuse to pay me, you want me to write to Christian bodies & pray? Wow
So? Well, Next time, tell your friend to take the SWAT team along.

He didn't, I only used that to buttress what's happening in other circles
Yeah, right!

Yes he would have!! Gods presence was not disregarded, it was the pastor that disregarded the house of God.
You've not been in same room or hall with dignitaries obviously! God’s presence was not disregarded shey? Ok o
Christianity Etc › Re: (GODPROPHET) Olaye George Prophecies ,what Do Yo Think. by Gombs(m): 3:23pm On Sep 25, 2014
nora544: all the ppastors who make this are fake man of God because they write it that it could belong ot every part of the world and when it happen than they will tell us they see it before no one see something befors stop this.
Grammar ma'am

Work on it, channel the energy you use on hating on productive things. This is a public forum for Pete's sake.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Room, Is Bishop David Oyedepo, Worthy Of The Title Of A God's General? by Gombs(m): 7:10am On Sep 25, 2014
musKeeto: You don come again? undecided
grin
there is everything christ-like in kunle.
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities: A Daily Devotional by Gombs(m): 6:57am On Sep 25, 2014
Not Subject To the Elements! · Thursday, September 25th

Pastor Chris

Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances (Colossians 2:20).

When you were born again, you were delivered from the power of darkness, and translated into the Kingdom of God’s dear Son (Colossians 1:13). You’re therefore no longer subject to the elements of this world. This means that you must refuse to be snowed-under by infirmities and harsh elements of this world that make life unbearable for the ordinary man.

From our opening scripture, it’s clear that it’s the babe in Christ—the spiritually immature—that can be subject to the elements of this world. This is why you must keep growing in the Lord—unto a mature man in Christ. Then you’ll be knowledgeable enough to walk in the consciousness of your inheritance in Him.

In John 8:32 the Lord Jesus said, "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." If you walk in ignorance of the truth of God’s Word, you’ll remain in bondage and suffer the same things that the people of the world suffer. You might even think that God is the one punishing you, but He isn’t. Why will He punish you after He has "punished" Jesus in your place? The Bible says, "...He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities…" (Isaiah 53:5).

Your punishment was already laid on Jesus. Therefore, refuse to be dominated by cancer, diabetes, heart trouble, headaches, or any other kind of infirmities. Rise up in your spirit and take the dominion. Tame the world with your faith-filled confessions.

Perhaps, as a businessperson, there’s been so much corruption or unfavourable policies that tend to militate against your success; refuse to be discouraged. No system or policies can work against you; you’re greater than them all; therefore, rise above them. Function above the system. Remember what the Scripture says, "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world" (1 John 4:4).

You were dead with Christ, from the rudiments or elements of this world; refuse to be subject to them. You play by a different set of rules. Have this consciousness always.

Confession...

I refuse to be subject to the elements of this world because greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world. I take my place of authority in Christ, and declare that the world is under my dominion, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study: John 17:16; 1 John 5:4

1 year Bible Reading Plan: Ephesians 2:11-22, Isaiah 15-18

2 year Bible Reading Plan: 2 Timothy 1:1-18 Jeremiah 43
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Bible Being Sold by Gombs(m): 6:55am On Sep 25, 2014
pesty100: . What about those who gives it out for free (Gideons)
bobo, some folks has already paid for them to be distributed free in Africa especially. google it
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 6:54am On Sep 25, 2014
nannymcphee: This story is not nollywood or "them say", the job was offshore & the company was owned by the pastor, find out from folks who work offshore, the moment u hit town, ur alert come in,

my friend held his part of the bargain
Then the pastor was wrong for not to have paid up!


If my friend disregarded the church & office of the pastor, what about the pastor that went against Gods word that talks about paying workers their wages & being truthful & honest?? Didn't the pastor dishonor God, the church & his office? (I hope touch not will not apply here)
Let God judge the man, not you or your friend. Does two wrongs make a right? undecided

The long story I skipped was that, there was a visiting senior pastor from headquarters that Sunday, he told them they should see him after service
but your friend thought testimony time was far better, no?

The pastor claimed that the client had not paid, hence the delay in payments
aha, at least now there was an explanation..the first post you had earlier suggested the pastor did not even want to see them.

My friend called someone from the clients firm who worked with the account dept, the call was placed on speaker & he confirmed that they weren't owing the pastors firm
see na! Someone..was that someone a senior staff? if yes, does he or she work with finance department? why didn't he call the Boss of that firm? My point here is that there is obvious communication glitch... a whole lot


I'm shocked at ur responses, u left the pastor & focused on my friend, who is in a better position to walk in the light of the questions u asked above? The pastor or the lay member
You see it so, because you wanted me to see it from your friend's perspective, remember, everyone is right in their own eye. you didnt hear the Pastor's side of the story, did you?

Let me borrow ur words, what happened to the pastors love?

What happened to the pastors Christian moral?

Who has the pastor acted like in the bible?

Why did the pastor order the guards not to let them into the office complex?
basing your opinion of just what your friend told you is not nice... you should have heard the Pastor's side of the story.

why did the pastor lie that he was being owed?
you claiming he lied based on what your friend told you, for Pete's sake he may have called a cleaner or security man he knew working there, for it is against company standard t give information to "strangers" especially went money payments are involved.

At the end of the day, who brought shame to the body of Christ? The pastor or my friend?
your friend... No matter how you see it, taking a microphone in church to complain about a debt and asking the congregants to join him beg their pastor to pay him is not justifiable in any way.

I'm earnestly waiting for the answers to this questions
I've obliged you ma'am smiley

I hope u won't feed the me the "touch not"
you've not known me a lot then! cheesy

My friend did not cause commotion in church, he simply stated the facts, that he had worked without pay & they should join him in begging the pastor to pay up
and that was right thinking to you?

I hope u earn a living, how will be like for u to work 6months without pay, with a wife & kids?
i'd be frustrated especially if i know the monies were held for no cogent reasons..but should that make me go to the church and announce that their pastor refuse paying me? of all sensible ways of getting the debt paid? aren't their elders in that church he could first complain to? aren't there christian bodies in that state hew could write to? did he pray about it? He should have gone to the press na! He did the job with the Pastor's company, NOT the church!

I don't know where u live, in Nigeria here, some companies owe staffs salaries for months & still threaten them with sack should they decide not to come to work
Did he threaten to sack your friend? this is a new detail o

So why should a Christian business owner practice this? Not to talk of a pastor!
most atimes, wickedness and greed ... sometimes, lack of the said funds

so what exactly should my friend beg God for?
for disregarding the presence of God in the gathering of brethren. If the governor was sitting there in the congregation, would he have gone to the front with a microphone to announce the said debt? He can't... He'd not dare.
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Room, Is Bishop David Oyedepo, Worthy Of The Title Of A God's General? by Gombs(m): 6:28am On Sep 25, 2014
lustra89: thnk,, pls am above that age,,, n thanks for ur correction
Thanks, please I'm above that age... and thanks for your correction.
cool

you welcome buddy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Truth About Christ Embassy Healing School by Gombs(m): 10:45pm On Sep 24, 2014
Topgainer: Sorry for interfering in your address to drummaboy

Yes, you mean the fake Church(self-seeking) in Revelations 6:2. A fake Christ that rode a white horse, had a bow but no arrow was given to him, so all he could do was stage miracles, organize placebo-effect healings and teach ungodly things
A time was given for him to march on but another was given for him to be judged
Till then buddy! I'm glad you or any Nairalander aint the judge cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Room, Is Bishop David Oyedepo, Worthy Of The Title Of A God's General? by Gombs(m): 10:38pm On Sep 24, 2014
lustra89: Now, why i asked this question, was beause i ran into a friend's update, sending birthday wishes and calling him title's like ''God's General'' to me i dnt think he deserve that title, judging from what most God's general's has done including people like whycliff jean, john hus, martin lurther knox etc,, this are men who fought for the bible we read today, including giving their life so the bible could be interpreted to the language of the common man,, when the catholics, kings and pope insist it must be in latin, they fought for reformation of the church, destroyin most belief,, many reason's which i cnt go on mentioning, even when john hus was kill because of his Reformation to the church, he said '' lord have mercy' and in 1999 pope john paul apologised for a sin commited by the church to him, after 385years, to me i dnt fink Bishop david oyedepo should be address as such,,, please what's ur humble opinion,, no insult please, but if you do,, i will humble smile no skin pain.... Thanks
Yes he is! Do you know how many millions of God's army he leads here on earth? Meanwhile, stop thinking, start learning! Stop using 'fink' for 'think' 'dnt' for 'don't'... know when to use past tenses, and continuous tenses, use ... instead of ,,,

I can tell you are below 18 from your post, but if you are above 20, I really think you should focus on your studies and leave Oyedepo outta itundecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is The Bible Being Sold by Gombs(m): 10:30pm On Sep 24, 2014
Elantracey: Because money was used to print it .
Simple! The printers gon be paid, what of staff? Transportation nko?

Why do folks get dizzy with confusion when the word 'money' and 'church' re close together in a sentence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 9:58pm On Sep 24, 2014
nannymcphee: Q1.Kindly explain what Paul was addressing in 1 Corinthians 5:12-13


12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”
MSG
9-13 I wrote you in my earlier letter that you shouldn’t make yourselves at home among the sexually promiscuous. I didn’t mean that you should have nothing at all to do with outsiders of that sort. Or with crooks, whether blue- or white-collar. Or with spiritual phonies, for that matter. You’d have to leave the world entirely to do that! But I am saying that you shouldn’t act as if everything is just fine when a friend who claims to be a Christian is promiscuous or crooked, is flip with God or rude to friends, gets drunk or becomes greedy and predatory. You can’t just go along with this, treating it as acceptable behavior. I’m not responsible for what the outsiders do, but don’t we have some responsibility for those within our community of believers? God decides on the outsiders, but we need to decide when our brothers and sisters are out of line and, if necessary, clean house.


QED cool
Read in context and from the greek manuscripts. He was actually saying "it's my responsibility to put you guys in the right path" same thing Pastor Chris did when he excommunicated a Pastor, why? Because he's responsible for those in CEC, and yet folks still nailed him on the cross! He is the boss in the church in Asia, he cannot be responsible for that in Jerusalem.

Q2.where do you get this notion of by pen or by mouth? All the verses preceding the "touch not my....." talks about assault or physical harm
Really? You want me to put up a verse where someone was recommended to David for death just because he cursed the Lord’s annoited....folks curse with what?

pls don't bring in names so that the thread won't be derailed.
Noted cool but it will, sooner or later. I promise, not from me
Why can't I arrest a pastor in church when he has broken the law?
You can, but shouldn't

A friend of mine worked for a Pastor of a well known church(name withheld) . him & his crew were owed for 6months, no pay
1 Corinthians 6:1
New Living Translation
When one of you has a dispute with another believer, how dare you file a lawsuit and ask a secular court to decide the matter instead of taking it to other believers!


The pastor gave instructions to the security guys not to allow them into the office complex, they did the job offsite, they tried all they could to get his attention to no avail
Romans 4:4 ISV Now to someone who works, wages are not considered a gift but an obligation.

Now, I don't have full details, maybe your friend didn't do as they agreed, but if all conditions are met, and the pastor refuses pay (highly unlikely), then cops gotta get him, that's nafter all means has been exhausted.
So one Sunday, they all decided to go to his church, the pastor didn't notice them, unfortunately for the pastor he was the first to speak during testimony time, my friend took the mic & narrated everything & that the congregation should pls join him in begging the pastor to pay.
That is soooooo wrong and God would not be pleased at such. There are order in God’s house, your friend could have met an elder in the church quietly, he disregarded the church and the office of the Pastor, not the man, but the office.

long story short, the pastor paid them the next day.
What was his gain now? Proving the pastor is 'wicked' or 'evil'? to what end? Folks sha. Don’t forget, maybe you didn't have the full details, the pastor might ot be aware of the debt, if he were, maybe there was a breach of contract, if there wasn't, you can’t conveniently tell me someone worked for you, and you deliberately withheld pay for no reason at all

question: Did my friend do wrong by going to the church to do this?
He should go beg God...you need understand something, the church of God DOES not practice democracy, you don't always have freedom of expression and 'rights'... what happened to humility? Patience? Endurance? Love? Etc even if the pastor was wrong, what happened to his Christian morals? Who was he like in the Bible?[/quote]
Christianity Etc › Re: (GODPROPHET) Olaye George Prophecies ,what Do Yo Think. by Gombs(m): 9:24pm On Sep 24, 2014
SirJohn: Bros Jo, since the prophecy has been posted here, can you please tell us which of the prophecies has come to pass huh
Read the OP again, then find the corresponding prophecy, if u still can't find it, then we'd have to dial 911 grin
Christianity Etc › Re: (GODPROPHET) Olaye George Prophecies ,what Do Yo Think. by Gombs(m): 9:22pm On Sep 24, 2014
Cc:
Drummaboy aka WinsomeX
Goshen
Shedemidemi

Now the excuse might be "even the devil does same"

These folks are stiff necked, now I understand why God wanted to destroy em isrealites in the day of Moses undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m):
mbaemeka: 2 Peter 1:21 KJV

For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

None of the prophecies or scriptures came from men. They came from the Holy Spirit who moved them to speak or write it down. Will the Holy Spirit move a Christian to act contrary to the scriptures?

Paul didn't rebuke Peter because he was "just" wrong. He rebuked him because Peter was within Paul's jurisdiction which was Galatia- a region Paul had established a church. The same Paul when he met with James and the other elders in Jerusalem didn't rebuke them even though they admonished Gentiles to imbibe some Jewish customs as part of their salvation "duties". He simply obeyed them there and kept mum but when he wrote to his churches he taught otherwise.

There is a due process in God's house for the Holy Spirit is not the author of confusion or a proponent of dissension and rank-breaking. But if any MOG fails in the law of the land then let him be punished by the law of the land and if he fails in the law of God then let God himself punish him amicably.

Going by what Image123 had already said when David had the opportunity to kill Saul he refused to and when one of his soldiers offered to do it David called Saul "the Lord's annointed". Remember that David too was the Lord's anointed (and even more anointed than Saul if I may add) but when he learned about Saul's death he exclaimed "How are the mighty fallen?" before he instructed his men not to tell the story amongst the Heathens (Garth in the context). He didn't call Saul a demon-possessed Charlatan or fraud that God had punished. Instead with tears he queried why such a mighty man had fallen so ignominiously.

I am not a proponent of anything except I declare unequivocally that I am. Just thought to add that.
Gbam!

Ohhhhhhhhh! Mba, as for the colored, may God bless you. His wisdom and excellence is working in your mind immeasurably

David had to kill 2 fellas like that in the Bible for slaying the Lord’s anointed, and was advised to slay another for simply cursing the Lord’s annointed, yet folks here insult and attack all including the president of the country! Forgetting the Bible frowns at that too

Notice the difference in our posts, 4mins...we were thinking same things... Hahahahahah, true sons of our father! He sure made Bereans outta us grin

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