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1. Who was God referring to in this verse

His saints and his prophets (Pastors, Ministers of the gospel)

2.Does this verse cover all Christians who are anointed or its strictly for MEN OF GOD

All... we are to judge none, touch none, not by mouth, pen or however.

3. If its not exclusive to MEN OF GOD alone, how come its not used when a Christian who isn't a leader is being slandered

Ask them, I use it on all...all who's created of God.

4a.As a Christian police officer, If I catch a MAN OF GOD committing a crime, should I arrest him or turn the other way becos of this verse??

Define the word 'crime' ...because, they said Chris Oyakhilome commited a crime too.... but if you find him breaking traffic rules or give bribes etc...Arrest him, you are doing your job! Make sure you don't do the arresting in the church!

4b. As a Christian police officer, if the use of excessive force is required to restrain a violent MAN OF GOD, should I use such force or let him continue his attack

Beni! He should know how to conduct himself and his anger, knowing fully well he's an ambassador for Christ

(For Q4a & b, i ask becos the verse says do the prophet no harm)

The Hebrew word is ra'a meaning to do an injury or hurt, to do evil or wickedly, mischief . Check your motive here. When you are arresting him, do it with respect or reverence, even if you saw him stole from a store. Do your job and keave the rest for who he answers to.

5a. As a Christian judge, should I recuse myself from a case involving a MAN OF GOD

Nope, do your job. If he broke the law, he should face the consequences. 1 Peter 2 : 13 Keep [size=20pt]all[/size] the laws of men because of the Lord; those of the king, who is over all

5b.As a Christian judge, should I free a guilty MAN OF GOD

If he broke the law with PROOF... don't, but still respect him either way.

(For Q5a & b, I ask becos proponents of this verse, usually say leave judgement for God who called them)

Refer to the above verse...if he broke the laws of the land, he should answer.

PS:pls don't tell me a MAN OF GOD can't be violent or does no wrong, because we have had case where some did

I've seen Pastors who beat their wives, why can't a pastor steal then? There is every possibility.

pls don't also tell me that no genuine MAN OF GOD Will do those things, that is not the objective of my questions

Those who know the word and live it, work and walk it won't

Kindly provide answers based on the scenarios presented.

I don't like the topic of this thread... is 'proponents' necessary? Your opening remark too

Thanks

Welcome!

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Kenyan28: Seems like am gonna wait forever.

oluwagombs@gmail.com

mail me please or drop yours

Being Born Again · Wednesday, September 24th

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

The term "born again" wasn’t coined by certain denominations as some people think; it was originally used by Jesus to express the necessity for man’s spiritual rebirth. The Lord Jesus used the term when He addressed Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. The expression puzzled Nicodemus, who then sought to know if being "born again" required a man going back into his mother’s womb to be born a second time.

Read the Master’s response in John 3:5-6: "… Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." It’s important to understand the dichotomy of expression when He said, "…except a man be born of water and of the Spirit...." He was dealing with the same substance: spiritual rebirth. The original rendering actually says, "Except a man is born of water, even the spirit." Water is a type of the Spirit.

When you were born of your mother, you were born of the flesh. Hebrews 12:9 talks about the "fathers of our flesh" and the "Father of spirits." Your earthly father is the father of your flesh, but God is the Father of spirits. Your spirit came alive to God when you were born again. The Master was quite emphatic about being born again; He said, "…Ye must be born again" (John 3:7); so it isn’t something to be taken lightly.

If you’re born again, be glad about it, for it means you hail from Zion. David wrote about this in Psalms 87:5. He said, "And of Zion it shall be said, This and that man was born in her: and the highest himself shall establish her." David was a prophet of God, and spoke prophetically about Zion, the city of God.

Coming to the New Testament, the Bible says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels" (Hebrews 12:22). You’re now established as a bona fide citizen of God’s own city—Zion. You’re a fellow citizen with the saints, and belong to the household of God (Ephesians 2:19). You’re now an heir of God, and a joint-heir with Christ.

Confession...
I’m a new creation in Christ Jesus, a bona fide citizen of Zion—the city of the living God. I’m no longer a stranger but qualified to be a partaker of the inheritance of the saints in the light. Halleluiah!

Further Study: Ephesians 2:19; Psalms 87:3

1 year Bible reading plan: Ephesians 1:15-2:1-10 Isaiah 13-14
2 year Bible reading plan: 1 Timothy 6:17-21 Jeremiah 42

sonOfLucifer: Who are you?

Jehovah's kid

sonOfLucifer: Embrace your carnality. We were all made to sin. Sin wisely.

Oh! What a lonely sadistic sad sod

Drummaboy, I didn't bother replying your post for they are frivolous as they come. Did you click the link I put a page before? I don't expect you to though, but I know you did. Keep wallowing in your imaginations. The church will keep marching on, and there's nothing, absolutely nothing you or any means can do about it.

Quote me in 5years time...

Meanwhile, keep being bitter

SirJohn: See this hypocrite talking
I didn't call for the challenge, the challenge was thrown to me and what I did was simply accede to it and put up my own proposition along side the challenge based on certain cases that will result in little or no controversy . Your post here even suggested you were warming up to the challenge, maybe you thought Joagbaje would take the bait . Maybe putting up a cash bounty was going too far, and I most sincerely withdraw my cash offer. But I will still be glad to be called upon anytime to witness any healing meeting where any of the cases I mentioned will be ministered to; and if they get healed I will tender an unreserved apology.

Sir, the challenge was to Joagbaje, and your only part was what your reaction would be, not what you would put up for the challenge. You ruined it all though, but I like your honesty, and appreciate your gesture for admitting the bounty was way off. Thank you, and I hope this thread goes a different direction from here.

Kenyan28: I am waiting for your PM.

Yeah, I would, just so busy with staff training. That's why I am on in mornings and nights...we are on break now

Kenyan28: If only u walked one mile in my shoe.

I need not walk in your shoes to have a picture of what you might have gone through and will go through, but what If only you walked in the shoes of the woman with issue of blood in the Bible, maybe you should go study how she got healed, learn about her mindset. I really want your story to change, I really want you healed

Welcome back, but on a serious note, SirJohn, your post and 'bounty' was uncalled for and totally callous. Are we supposed as Christians, to accept a contest just to prove God heals? Even them atheists can't make us do that for reasons obvious in the bible.

All required for a healing is believing that one can be healed by the power in the name of Jesus, through whoever is ministering, not because of cash incentives just to score points.

Kenyan went for that special bait by Sir John, by saying "I dare you" "we could share the 1/2 million naira...looolest" "pray for this kenya girl till she turns negetive". This for me is not one who wants to receive healing, majorly because of "so that we can set a clean rexord for CEC miracle"

SirJohn, Weldone

Well, mwe shouldn't. We no longer have the sin nature... However, only James in the NT Bible called believers sinners, wehn we get to heaven, we'd have to ask him why!

The Importance of Knowledge-Tuesday, September 23rd.

Pastor Chris

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge… (Hosea 4:6).

Sad as this may sound, it’s true nonetheless! God’s people suffer in life, not because they don’t pray enough or love God enough, but because they lack accurate and adequate knowledge of the Word. Reiterating this, the Lord Jesus said in Matthew 22:29, “...Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures….”

When people lack accurate and relevant spiritual information from God’s Word, they experience defeat and failure. This isn’t because they’re “weak” Christians or because God couldn’t deliver them; it’s just the plain and inevitable result of ignorance.

Psalms 82:5-7 is so touching; it describes the debacle and despondency of the one who’s ignorant of his heritage and identity in Christ. It says, “They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.” Pathetic!

Now you can better understand why in the lives of some people, things aren’t just happening the way they should; they’re putting in all the efforts they could, yet, nothing productive is coming out. What’s the problem? Ignorance: they know not, neither do they understand; they walk on in darkness, destroyed by sickness and plummeted by the harsh elements of this world. Is this the lot for the Christian? Emphatically no! The Bible declares “…but through knowledge shall the just be delivered” (Proverbs 11:9). If you have knowledge, there’ll be a difference in your life. The knowledge of God’s Word will build you up, and deliver your God-given inheritance into your hands (Acts 20:32).

If you’ve been wondering why your experiences haven’t been as victorious as the Word describes, you need to spend more time studying and meditating on the Word. Build your faith with the Word of God, for faith comes by hearing (Romans 10:17). As the Word comes to you, don’t just agree by way of mental assent, respond by confessing the same things. Soon enough, you’ll change the situation.

Prayer. ..
Dear Father, I thank you for granting me understanding and insight into your will, purpose and plans as I study your Word. My heart is flooded with wisdom and spiritual understanding, not just to know, but also to walk in your perfect will today and always, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.


Further Study :
2 Peter 1:2
Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,

Proverbs 11:9
An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbour: but through knowledge shall the just be delivered.


Daily Scripture Reading :

1 YEAR BIBLE READING PLAN:Ephesians 1:1-14 Isaiah 11-12
2 YEAR BIBLE READING PLAN: 1 Timothy 6:1-16 Jeremiah 41

A lil tea break please... Drummaboy, Kunle and their team...have you guys seen this yet?

https://www.nairaland.com/1910720/want-know-what-happen-between#26434912

I wonder when you lot would start apologizing?

Joagbaje: You don't believe. Your invitation was a mockery . You said I should come and pray but you're certain it won't work. If you have that kind of mindset I will be wasting my time and money. I won't come to pray for you to prove anything to you. Jesus won't show a sign to prove anything. The word of God is what I present to you . If you believe and seek him in humility you will have your miracle back.

Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

I concur, Sir John's conditions made mockery of the whole thing

Kenyan28: I am very much ok with it. I'll be waiting eagerly for your PM.

Leave your email here.

I can't drop my email here...would however create one for this purpose. Thanks

WinsomeX: No. It's not OK.

If SirJohn interview and even mine was public, make yours public too.

You have the right to PM her for anything you wish but the interview, even if its private, should be made public.

That's my suggestion.

I never said I wanted to interview her privately, I said I'd wanna pm her first before the interview.

Kenyan28: Gombs, bring it on.

Hello Kenyan, would pm you first. Is that ok?

Believe In Perfection · Monday, September 22nd

Pastor Chris

Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect (Matthew 5:48).

There’re many who don’t believe that perfection is possible. When you try to talk to them about perfection, they don’t want to hear it. With a sneer, they accuse you of being a "perfectionist," because in their erroneous belief, "nobody can be perfect." Yet, when you study the Word, there’s no place that suggests to us the impossibility of perfection. God doesn’t give us a chance not to be perfect. Everything about Him calls for perfection; He requires us to be perfect, not when we get to heaven, but here and now—in the earth!

The reason most people don’t think perfection is possible, which is why they’re not perfect, is that they don’t know what perfection is. Perfection is like success, which can be measured at different stages of your life, according to the set-out objectives, purpose, and goal. Perfection is measured according to the light, instruction, or information that you have with respect to the underlying objectives.

Our opening verse says, "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." The word "perfect" here is the Greek "teleios," which describes perfection in your heart; a completeness; measuring your heart with the heart of God. The way to do this is through the Word. Think, love and forgive as God wants you to—let your heart be like the Father’s heart.

The word "perfect" is also used in 2 Corinthians 13:11; it says, "Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect…." This time, another Greek word, "katartizo" is used for "perfect." It means to do things perfectly. This is not the perfection in the heart (teleios) but of your actions: the things you do and how you do them. The emphasis here is on doing things impeccably right the first time. And the first step in achieving this is learning to pay attention to details!

Believe in perfection and don’t be intimidated by it. Your perfection will be judged according to the training and information that you’ve received, not the one you didn’t get. So, practise being perfect; think and talk perfection, because the Lord requires it of you.

Prayer...
Dear Father, I thank you for revealing to me your desire for me to be perfect; I affirm my faith in your Word and declare that by reason of your Spirit of excellence that’s at work in me, I think, talk and do perfect things, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study: 
1 Corinthians 2:6; [KJV] Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

Ephesians 4:13 [KJV] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

1 year Bible reading plan : Galatians 6:1-18 Isaiah 9-10
2 year Bible reading plan : 1 Timothy 5:19-25 Jeremiah 40

Yomieluv: Ok

Macelliot: Moh

Nairalane: Okay

Macelliot: Lai

searay: Bb

joedejana: ,

InwehAkpevwe: .

OLAplusONE: Really?

Seun see them o...
Greedy shidren!

Anyways, GEJ till 2019 AFCON

Well, that's why they are the opposition....and they shall still be the major opposition after 2015... GEJ is the man

PastorKun: I volunteer to be one of the nairaland witnesses

See his mouth!

This is now sounding like a bet o, like gambling sha!

Well then, I see this thread is finally heading somewhere, my request for an interview is hereby suspended. Kenyan, we await you.

Revealing Christ-Sunday, September 21st.

Pastor Chris

For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus’ sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh (2 Corinthians 4:11).

Christianity is the revelation of Christ in you, the manifestation of the Christ-life in you. It’s so important that you understand this. For example, as a Christian, when you act humbly, it isn’t just because you made an effort to be humble. When you show love, care, and kindness to people, it’s much more than you trying to be nice or uphold good moral standards; rather, it’s the manifestation of the life of Christ in you. It’s because the humility of Christ is in your spirit.

That outward show of love, kindness, humility, etc., that others experience from you is the manifestation of the life of Christ in your spirit. All that God wants to be manifested in you is Christ; Christ alive in you: working through you, touching and changing lives through you.

Understanding this reality will change your thinking and your communication, as well as your perception, both of Christ and of yourself. Then you can really understand how to let Him show Himself alive in you. Suddenly, all your struggling to do things through your own efforts will cease.

Becoming a Christian means Christ has taken up His abode in your spirit; you’ve become His living headquarters and operational centre. Whatever He needs to do in the earth today is through you. You’re His beauty, His trophy, and outstretched arm. Jesus said in John 15:5, “I am the vine, ye are the branches….” The branches are the fruit-producing part of the vine. Thus, you reveal the glory and beauty of Christ.

What God wants you to be conscious of is the glory within: Christ in you; that’s what produces the glory that’s seen on the outside. The glory within is greater. If you’d only look inwards, into your spirit, you’ll be amazed at what’s inside and reveal the same to your world.

Prayer. ..
Dear Father, I thank you for Christ taking up His abode in my spirit; and now, I’ve become His living headquarters, and operational centre. Through me, His glory, beauty, wisdom, perfections, and righteousness are revealed to the world, in ever-increasing measure, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.


Further Study :
Colossians 1:27
To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Colossians 3:3-4
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

1 Peter 4:13
But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

DAILY SCRIPTURE READING

1 YEAR BIBLE READING PLAN:Galatians 5:16-26 Isaiah 6-8
2 YEAR BIBLE READING PLAN: 1 Timothy 5:11-12, Jeremiah 39

WinsomeX: So Kenyan28 please accede to Gombs for an interview.

Gombs, my own request to you is that you behave like a gentleman at least for once on this forum and respect the lady. Please suspend all those baby theatrics of yours (agbero style) and handle this one with some gravity.

I will be watching from the background and will not fail to wield the stick if need be. It's a warning.

I've been a gentleman on this forum by far compared to you na, no need to fear or worry, I'd be like Christiane Amanpour, just make sure you don't interfere unduly.

Kenyan, I await your affirmation

WinsomeX: Well you have succeeded in engaging me now. Let's see who the fool will be at the end of this one.

1. At the top of this page, I made a suggestion to Joagbaje, which is now directed at you too. When do you plan to do it?

2. The Kenyan lady is back on this thread. If you are so confident about some law skills you've got, why not engage her in Q and A; rather than trying to interpret another persons own story for her?

Now, I'm ready to face this thread, and as for the above bold, I am really really interested, thanks to John Grisham, I'd love to interview Kenya either here or a new thread.

Kenya, please accede to my request. Thank you.

Idrismusty97: In conclusion the SCOAN building didn't collapse and all those death tolls are pure lies fabricated by the Media?

I'm saying distortion of facts isn’t a new thing with the media. Quit giving wrong interpretation to my post

Well then...if they don't wanna accept our explanation, we have one choice and that is use our diplomatic strength. Cash for arms deal by most government is done, wonder why this one is blown out of proportion, I think it's because Oritsejafor is a pastor and PDP is the government.

free2ryhme: this is a picture from Bangladesh factory collapse not Synagogue


why seun? is nairaland also corrupt

It's the season of gossips and anything, I mean anything that has T.B Joshua, Oritsejafor, Chris Oyakhilome, no matter how silly it sounds, it would make front page.... and folks who think their opinion on nairaland on the said issue matters at all would scream on top their voices and shut up later...good thing is, the thread dies faster than it was created, but damage would be done on nairaland's image.

One wonders why Linda Ikeji makes more? A friend wanted to advertise, I quickly mentioned Nairaland, she said " forget that place, only rude people go there, besides most people that comment there or visits there are either kids, teens or men living with their parents, serious minded people are few there, plus tye real number of memebers is well below 300, 000"

I was mute! Not by what she said, but on how much folks desecrate the forum. Has anyone been to the politics section? Seems like an agbero hotspot

Gorrbachev: That picture is a Bangladeshi factory collapse, that's not Nigeria.

https://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/content/2013/0426-bangladesh_building_collapse/15648465-1-eng-US/0426-Bangladesh_Building_Collapse_full_600.jpg

Don't mind the media and the gullible who believe all they say. From the picture, you can see it directly contradicts the description the story has, yet some folks are here screaming "Crucify him"

Egbon Seun, you see how they are turning Nairaland to a gossip hotbet?

He’s Your Salvation, Healing …And Strength! · Saturday, September 20th

Pastor Chris

The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid? (Psalm 27:1).

Most Christians know Jesus Christ as their SAVIOUR, which is wonderful, but knowing Him as your SALVATION will completely revolutionize your life and take your walk with Him to a whole new level. Observe the words of David in our opening verse; he said, "The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?" As your saviour, you’re hoping that He will "deliver" you from something, perhaps, your enemies; but as your salvation, you transcend that arena where he rescues you from danger or difficulty; you lose your fears, because you’re in Him.

Psalm 27:2 further shows the result of the Lord being your salvation. It says, "When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes, came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell." The Christian isn’t one who needs to be delivered from anything; you don’t need to be bothered about your adversaries. When they come out against you, they’ll stumble and fall, because the Lord is your salvation. He’s your Rock of defence; your protection. Halleluiah! This is different from you asking Him to protect you.

This was what He wanted Israel to see and know so they could relate to Him as such, but they couldn’t. As a result, He brought the revelations to them in bits and pieces. For example, in Exodus 15:26 He said, "...I am the LORD that healeth thee"; beautiful revelation! It means you can receive healing anytime because He’s the God that heals. This, however, is for the babe in Christ. Discover Him, not as your healer, but as your healing. When you do, you’ll realize that you’re no longer in need of healing because He’s your health, just as He’s your wisdom, your love, your ability, and your strength.

When you have Him, you have it all. When Thomas, one of the disciples, said to Him, "Lord, show us the way," the Master, unequivocally replied, "I am the way…" (John 14:6). Jesus Christ doesn’t show you the way, He’s the way. When you find Him, you arrive; your search ends, because He’s the totality of divinity.

Prayer...
Dear heavenly Father, I thank you for filling me with your Spirit who reveals the Word to me, causing me to abound in the knowledge of Christ, who’s my Salvation, Strength, Healing, and Wisdom! Thank you for helping me discover myself in Christ, and to live the supernatural life of glory in Him, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

Further Study: 
Philippians 3:10; [KJV] That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

2 Timothy 2:15 [KJV] Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

1 year Bible reading plan: Galatians 4:21-5:1-15 Isaiah 3-5
2 year Bible reading plan: 1 Timothy 5:1-10 Jeremiah 38