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BabaGnoni: This is nothing but just a cliché - no offense intended Alwaystrue
OK, educate us, what is "...your purpose and assignment on earth..."

simplyOJ: The convenant would have been of no effect if he had sat down, planted his seedlings and started praying, hoping God will make his plant grow for him to enjoy the harvest. Isaac did something practical for the convenant to have effect. Just like God promised the Isrealite the promise land, but they needed to engage in battles to get in.

Please can you expand it further? How did the convenant make Isaac's own farmland to produce so well in the absence of rain during a famine?

simplyOJ: I do understand, they may possibly be others smart enough to do irrigation then, but their plants
may not do well. Remember these sayings: where others say there is a casting down, you will say there is a lifting up. Two persons doing the same thing may not necessarily receive the same result. If God's favour is on you; you may well be better positioned than others.

mbaemeka: If I had seen this before posting I would have simply requoted you. You have said everything I wanted to say.

God bless you.

Dapsy70sk: Simple, he did irrigation, dug wells

real22: My prayers for u is that God will open the eyes of ur understanding so u can understand spiritual things. What then is malachi 3:8-12 & matt 23:23 talks about. You went as far as even calling the word of God lies.

You don't have to refer to my points as lies all you need to do was to bring out ur own point. I tot I was talking to a matured guy.

simplyOJ: Please can you expand it further? How did the convenant make Isaac's own farmland to produce so well in the absence of rain during a famine?

nora544: Giving is not always money it could also be your time for charity work, helping others that is also what it means to be a christian.

Elsuizzanne: Did islam come into existence after the era of Jesus christ or vice versa....let's rub minds people.

simplyOJ: Gen 26:12 Then Isaac sowed in that land, and received in the same year an hundredfold: and the LORD blessed him.

You may have been taught that this passage means, 'give bigger offerings to God when things are tough'. Was this what Isaac did?

It is critical to point out that this is not a formula. Hearing God's voice and flowing with his overall plan for each generation is critical. Famine was occurring in Canaan during Isaac's day just like it had in his father Abraham's.

No doubt his thinking went something like this; "We are in famine. My father Abraham fled to Egypt during famine and God blessed him there. If I flee to Egypt, God will bless me there."

Isaac was following in his father's footsteps when the Lord appeared to him in the city of Gerar.

Up to this point, Isaac was going by formula. But when the Lord appeared to him, he said He did not want Isaac to go to Egypt, but rather to stay in Canaan and the Lord promised to bless him there (where famine was raging). The Lord was doing a different thing in Isaac's day than Abraham's and it was critical to flow with His plan. The same is true for every generation.

How did God caused Isaac's crops to grow during the famine when nobody else's would. Obviously, there was no rain. That's what was causing the famine.

Did God cause it to rain only on Isaac's crops and nowhere else? Or, did He miraculously cause his crops to grow without rain at all? What did God do or prompted Isaac to do?

Bible Student Oya!

jacksonite: Many people(especially Christians) believe that all good things come from God while all bad things are from the devil.(Invariably,good things are for Godly people and bad things for evil people)But it puzzles me when some people who are obviously evil have free access to the good things of life while others who are obviously Godly lack same. My questions are:1 Does all things (good and bad)come from God?2When an evil person is blessed,who is the source of the blessing?NB:my definition of good things is the things that make life easier:food,shelter,health,transport,money etc.3Can the devil also bless someone with good things? Happy Sunday to us all.

Beazy: I don't knw why nowadays...in some churches all they want is money...[s]some pastor even say that if we don't pay tithe, we won't enter the kingdom of God......[/s]

nora544: I dinot hate Nigeria, what I hate is this fake so called great man of God with their jets and their lifestyle what is not christian and also [size=20pt]your pastor chis is one of them why he has to live in south africa so that nobody see how many cars he has.[/size]!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nora544: Demos shakarian, he is not a armenian jew he belong to the charismatic movement in america,

I found something what is very important he make an organisation and after his death who was the next president of this christian organisation his son and his son meet the president of nigeria and that is what he write about the president



this words could also be from this so called great man of God in Nigeria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nora544: I pay for two Kids in this organisation and I have two other kids I help thatt hey can go to school in Kenya

look at the differenc when you go on the homepage

http://www.sos-kdiafme.org/Nigeria/wwh/ucountries.php
SOS childvillage shows where they are in Nigeria where you will find them but I found nothing like this on the homepage of pastorchris why?

SOS childvillages international is also in countries like Niger, Palestina, ........
http://www.sos-childrensvillages.org/where-we-help

all start 1949 with a young guy who was a student for medicine and with the 40$ he had at that time, and he comes out from a christian family!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nora544: Why nigerian Pastors are rich, why you never hear from nigerian churches what they make for the poor, the widow, the people in need!

Yesterday I saw in my country a documentation from the chariats who help poor children in Senegal, also children who are not christian, why you will [size=16pt]never [/size]hear something about this in Nigeria.

I know from a friend he work with the SOS childvillages also in Nigeria that they never get any money from thid new churches for help.

SOS christian childvillages is in over 133 countries in the world to help the poor and the founder of this organisation was a real christian Herman Gmeiner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Gmeiner. SOS means "Save our souls" this person is a real christian.

"All the best in the world happens only if a does more than he needs to do. The good that I do not, no one can do for me." - Quoted in Federal educational institution for kindergarten teachers Mureck

"Only when we share, we have peace in the world. Learning the peace, which is nothing more than learn to share."

I give my tithe to such an organisation

because I know somke kids will have a better futur and that is what it means a good heart not fill the pocket of this fake pastors from this new churches, who like to have their own jet, and that is not like a real christian should be.

Alwaystrue: @OP,

Tithing is thanking God for His goodness in your life as you dedicate a portion of your increase in obedience to His command.

Everywhere you see in scripture on tithing, God would have blessed or increased them before people even bring of it to Him. Every giving is accepted by man even if it is given to God. Your alms, offerings, donations etc are all received through man but the heart is the key thing.j


1. Abraham gave tithes and in the next chapter God appeared to him, after those things, reaffirming his blessings and security. This was a man who wasn't even commanded but had it written in His heart to appreciate and honour God and His servant. In conjunction with the work of his hands and other obedience to God, he kept on being blessed. Genesis 15.


2. There is no how you give what you don't have. tithing is a sign of increase already. For your ability to give your tithe shows you are blessed and this is a form of giving that God even said as we obey we can prove Him to open the windows of heaven to pour our more blessings on us. Now those blessings are poured on something,  you don't give and fold your hands and that is with respect to any format of giving anyway.  God blesses more and more our work and brings great abundance our way.

In 2 Chronicles,  even the Levites admitted the people had been blessed when they saw all they brought. They gave received gave...that is the cycle. 


3. Any time we obey the Word of God we have peace,  favour and cycle of blessing. Jesus said tithe should be practised in love, mercy and fairness. This was something the whole nation was doing so he had to tell them the right way to do it. So keep your heart guarded and renewed in Christ with a heart of love whenever we give. Matthew 23:23


4. Those in God's service who serve faithfully and the continuous needs in the church are met through such giving. They are encouraged and serve. It is from there they get their wages. And is a form of provision  for them.  We encourage them as well when we do this. 2 Chron. 31:4; 1 Cor. 9:7-14; 2 Corinthians 11:8


5. It helps in advancing the kingdom as we channel our funds as one of the minute ways of  seeking first his Kingdom and He keeps adding more and more to us. It is just one of the principles of the Kingdom. Some people go to places we can't go to spread the word and are funded through such giving.


6. It's the least we can even do in giving if we compare it to  the early church sold their property and brought it to the apostles feet for sharing to all who had needs including them hence they did not lack. That's the whole 100%. Now add a right heart, not like Ananais who could as well not have given anyway if he didn't want to.


7. The Lord acknowledges all giving in His name and as Jesus said GIVE...he didnt have to qualify it, whether alms, offerings, tithes...give unto the Lord. The measure we give, we receive from God. These are clear principles. Luke 6:38-39; 2 Cor.9:6-7.

Since you have purposed to give your tithe, do it unto the Lord as He directs you.


What does God bless?  Belief, obedience and a right heart. 

God bless.

nlMediator: ^^^

Oh, btw, the above may be my last substantive post on this thread if agents of disunity that have come in will stay here to spread their foul odor. The thread was doing just fine without their coming in to sow discord. It's like some people dont think children of God can discuss without taking sides or some childish cliqueness.

Candour: Is that the new problem bugging you now?? Did you see any word resembling premonition in the post you're referring to?

Candour: Thank God for this hymn. if only he understands and believes the hymn his own hands reproduced.

Stanza 2 says in deep gloom or in bloom, in still peaceful waters or in troubled seas, he's content because Christ is the one leading him. This was the mindset of the early Christians and its the mindset I've tried to show on the thread. In bad and good situations, in life or death, Christ leads so nothing to fear.

Stanza 3 defeats every point you've raised on this thread. Gilmore said he'll be content whatever lot he faced since its the Lord that is leading him. Being content means whether good or bad, as long as Christ is leading, its OK. This is much like Paul's mindset and very much in agreement with all I've written here.

Its shocking how you decided to misunderstand and misinterpret stanza 4. The man said when his job on earth is finished, he will not flee from the hands of death because Christ is leading. The man wasn't rejecting death, he was ready to embrace it.

Let me also hum along with you jare

He leadeth me! O blessed thought.....

Candour: [s]See what Hezekiah did

2 Kings 20:2-3 KJV
Then he turned his face to the wall, and prayed unto the Lord , saying, [3] I beseech thee, O Lord , remember now how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore.

Surely Hezekiah knew better than to engage in the braggadocio on display here.

Did Hezekiah decide the additional years or he begged God, Weep sorely and plead for mercy before God granted his request or not?

Did God let him have his way or he decided to show mercy?[/s]

mba emeka: Hebrews 11:35King James Version (KJV)

35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

Some of the Disciples that some of you think just died anyhow have a different account to yours and I think we should do well to listen to them. They were "tortured" we agree, but they had a deliverance to accept yet they turned it down because they wanted a better resurrection and because the world wasn't worthy of them. Period.

If Paul didn't think he had finished his course he knew enough to resist his death. This is the same Paul that was confused between staying with the church or departing and being with Christ. If Peter didn't think it was his time to check out he would have had resisted it too. But they accepted it and that is the lesson for all of us.

A christian should give glory to God in every aspect of his life: Actions, words, life and even death. When a christian enters a plane on his way to preach in a place and dies in a crash he has not glorified God that way. Naysayers and Fearful skeptics A.K.A Atheists will mock him saying "why did so and so die like that?" If a Christian is bed-ridden with sickness and then dies in that state like Elisha did such a death doesn't glorify God. I understand that E.W Kenyon or so walked around telling everyone he knew that God had told him to come home. On that very day he sat on a rocking chair and said to his daughter "I told you Jesus was coming for me. There he is" and then he checked out. Even at the point of Dying, God's power over death was evident. What a way to go. There is another popular MOG in Nigeria whose father checked out the same way a few years back. He was praying with his wife in the morning but instead of re-echoing the words in the scripture he opened he said "Father into thy hands I commend my spirit". The wife was taken aback and kept advising him to change his confession and instead say "I shall live I shall not die, I shall declare the good works of the lord in the land of the living" but he refused and kept saying the same thing: "Father into thy hands I commend my spirit". The man knew that if he changed his confession he will get a different result so he stuck to it. After a while the wife ran to call the young man that stayed with them so that he could talk some sense into her husband. When the young man walked in, he saw the man already lying on his back. The man smiled and checked out. That is the way to go.

The message of faith has to be preached more accurately so that Christians will rule and dominate all the wiles of the devil- including death! It is only when the message is preached that Christians will take advantage of it afterall it is through Knowledge that the righteous is delivered (Proverbs 11:9)