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Round of Applause...standing ovation from me...Nice points OP...


#Glory

JMAN05: You cannot separate a man from his word. Thats true, but for the fact that Jesus sat at the right hand of God, does it not constitute separation? Will it not be reasonable then to conclude that Jesus was a personality who spoke for God, instead of viewing him as the word in a literal sense? What do you think? Well, that doesnt mean that God cannot speak.

Secondly, Jesus as a spirit person in the heaven can be made flesh. Angels in the past were able to materialise human flesh.

Now if we are to say that Jesus was just a literal word of God, the question is, who spoke from heaven during Jesus' baptism?

I also do not think he was just a word during his prehuman existence. Why? Let's turn to Dan. 7:13, 14.

13 “I kept on beholding in the visions
of the night, and, see there! with the
clouds + of the heavens someone like a
SON OF MAN + happened to be coming;
and to the Ancient of Days + he gained
access, and they brought him up close
even before that One. + 14 And to him
there were given rulership+ and dignity +
and kingdom, * + that the peoples,
national groups and languages should all
serve even him. + His rulership is an
indefinitely lasting rulership that will not
pass away, and his kingdom one that will
not be brought to ruin. "


I understand that SON OF MAN to be Jesus cos he is the only one who was giving this rulership, kingship etc. What do you think?

You said that he was WITH God in the begining. A thing in you cant be WITH you, rather it will be IN you. Not so?



Can you be separated from your word, so that it is assigned authority, or sits elsewhere instead of in you?



Thanks for your quotation. Now, lets see what verse 15 says. Literally, it says "who is image of the God the invisible, FIRSTBORN of ALL creation". (Wescott and Hott word for word translation)

Now we know that the word firstborn portrays the idea that that one came first, and in the case of ALL other creatures, Jesus was created FIRST. The same greek word appeared in Luke 2:7.

The truth that Jesus was created is emphasized at proverb. It was after his creation that Jesus helped in creating other things.

Proverbs 8:22-30
22 “Jehovah himself produced me * as
the beginning * of his way,+ the earliest
of his achievements of long ago. +
23 From time indefinite I was installed,+
from the start, * from times earlier than
the earth. + 24 When there were no
watery deeps * I was brought forth as
with labor pains, + when there were no
springs heavily charged with water.
25 Before the mountains themselves had
been settled down,+ ahead of the hills, I
was brought forth as with labor pains,
26 when as yet he had not made the
earth + and the open spaces and the first
part of the dust masses of the productive
land. * + 27 When he prepared the
heavens I was there; + when he decreed
a circle upon the face of the watery deep,
+ 28 when he made firm the cloud
masses above, + when he caused the
fountains of the watery deep to be
strong, + 29 when he set for the sea his
decree that the waters themselves should
not pass beyond his order, * + when he
decreed the foundations of the earth, +
30 then I came to be beside him as a
master worker, * + and I came to be the
one he * was specially fond+ of day by
day, I being glad before him all the time."

Note: God is not mute neither did I say He is too busy. No, just like God is not mute or unmovable, but He at times delivers message through the angels.



Jesus has many privileges. Both that of judging and forgiving. The bible shows that God view Jesus as unique, as such God assign him MANY MANY privileges. REMEMBER THAT IT WAS GOD THAT ASSIGNS HIM PRIVILEGES. We read:

John 5:22, 27, 30

22 For the Father judges no one at all,
but he has committed all the judging to
the Son, 27 And he
has given him authority to do judging, +
because Son of man + he is. 30 I cannot do a single
thing of my own initiative; * just as I
hear, I judge; and the judgment that I
render is righteous, + because I seek, not
my own will, but the will + of him that
sent me. "

Did you notice that the son CANNOT do anything of his own initiative? So Jesus can do Many things because God gave him the authority or allowed him. But Jesus states that woeship is for his father alone. Luke 4:8.

Jesus is a servant of God. So he himself calls Him God. So if we see serve or worship assigned to Jesus it means prostrate or that the worship is giving to the almighty through Jesus since Jesus serves Him too.



I dont see anything wrong with discussing it here. But if you need it in another thread, then open one.

Ya am one of them, however, we are discussing the bible, not religion.

Please i would expect you to respond to my comments one after the other as I do yours so that you do not omit any point.

Pls let's open another thread. I need you to do that. Post your reason for saying Jesus aint same as God...and I'd follow counter wise.

Sorry, my fone was bad yday

Our Righteousness: What It Is And What It Gives ·
Thursday, August 29th

Pastor Chris

But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made
unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification,
and redemption (1 Corinthians 1:30).

One of the things our righteousness in Christ gives us is "right standing." Our opening verse in the Amplified reads, "But it is from Him that you have your life in
Christ Jesus, Whom God made our….Righteousness [thus making us upright and putting us in right standing with God]…." Right standing is the right or ability to stand in the
presence of God without guilt, fear, inferiority, or
condemnation. You received this ability from God when
you were born again.

You can now stand in His mighty, awesome presence with
boldness. This wasn’t by your own doing; God made it so.
You can now fellowship with Him, and relate to Him as
your loving, gracious heavenly Father. Sometimes, when
we pray and say, "I command such-and-such in the Name
of Jesus," there’re those who ask, "how dare you talk
like that before God?" It’s because we found out what
righteousness is, and what it gives: right standing before
God. God imparted it to us in Christ Jesus. Jesus is our
ability to appear boldly before the Father without blame
but in love.

Something else that righteousness gives you is
"rightwiseness"; the ability to be right; the ability
to know what’s good and right from God’s standpoint.
You have the ability to do what is right in the presence
of a Holy God. He alone knows what’s right; when He
imparts your spirit with righteousness, you’re able to see
and know what He sees to be right. This is the reason
you can live right and practice righteousness; right living
is a result of your righteousness.

Maybe there’s a habit you want to stop, don’t say, "I
don’t know how to stop it," because His righteousness is
your ability to stop anything. All you have to do is say,
"In the Name of Jesus Christ, I put a stop to this habit."
Don’t say, "O, Jesus, help me stop it." No! He already
helped you by giving you His righteousness. Therefore,
you now have the inherent ability to do what is right.

Confession
I am the righteousness of God in Christ
Jesus; and not only do I have right standing with God,
I have the ability to know and do what’s right.
Therefore, I reign in life over circumstances. I’m a
success; I’m changing lives everywhere as I unveil the
righteousness of God through the Gospel.

f u r t h e r s t u d y: Romans 5:17

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Reading Plan : Proverbs 1-2 1 Corinthians 13

2 Year Reading Plan : Luke 19:28-40 1 Samuel 17

[quote author=henry/deelinkag]Ghanaian Bishop Isaac Owusu Bempah, Founder and Leader of the Glorious Word Power Ministries International, has labeled two of Nigeria's celebrated pastors as partners in winning souls for the devil.

In the words of the controversial Owusu Bempah, the founding President of Believers' LoveWorld Incorporated, also known as"Christ Embassy", Dr Christian Oyakhilome (popularly known as"Pastor Chris" and General Overseer of The Synagogue Church ofAll Nations (SCOAN), Prophet Temitope Balogun (aka TB) Joshua, are not "true men of God", but leaders of occults, winningsouls for the devil.

This claim, according to Owusu-Bempah, is based on God's revelation to him in a vision as well as his own analysis of the scripture, works and conduct of the two popular heads of two religious organisations in Africa.

Owusu-Bempah said he once heard Pastor Chris saying he saw nothing wrong with homosexuality and lesbianism, and wonderedwhich true man of God would lead his flock with such beliefs.

"No doubt he [Pastor Chris] is a friend and partner of TB Joshua",Owusu-Bempa noted last week, claiming both men are dubious men of God who have a pact with the devil.

For Owusu Bempah, Nigerians have allegedly realized the dubious character of the Nigerian televangelist faith healer and founding president of Christ Embassy and his partnership with TBJoshua and have consequently chased him out of the country to South Africa, where he presently resides.

On TB Joshua, Owusu-Bempa claimed he once saw him with his feet on the floor preaching, an incident he said revealed to him that TB Joshua was not from God.

"When you see anyone claiming to worship God who worships with his feet on the ground, he's an occultist. And TB Joshua is an occultist.

"Ask yourself how TB Joshua, who claims God called him, worships with his feet on the ground? Let me tell you if you go to any church and you see the leader worshiping with his feet on the ground, it's a sign of demonism; it's occultic. People like that follow spirits that are not of God. It is occultic."
According to him, God later revealed that TB Joshua was an occultist who did not draw his spiritual powers from God.

"Some time ago, I used to like TB Joshua. I was watching him on television, and the Lord opened my eyes. I saw him with horns on his head, and he had the face of a wolf. His tongue was that of a snake and he had blood smeared all over his mouth."

"Immediately, I rushed into my bedroom, and the Lord told me that he wasn't from Him, but was working under the authority of bad spirits," the pastor added. "That was when I realized TB Joshua was demonic and not of God."

The man who has himself been labeled a false prophet by some of his critics, advised Ghanaians not to be misled by signs of wonders and so-called men of God whose powers do not come from God.

He also accused TB Joshua in particular of sometimes faking miracles to win the confidence of his flock. "He can perform a clean miracle today and contaminate it with a lot of fake ones".

Joshua claimed his "own junior pastor went to his church to be healed. He was forced to sit in a wheel chair and made to claim before the cameras that he had received his healing even though he hadn't. He returned to the country and within two weeks, he passed away", Owusu-Bempah stated.

He again cautioned Ghanaians not to be in a hurry to attend the services of Prophet TB Joshua since he is the "anti-christ."

"If you are a pastor who worked under him and he gets to know you want to reveal his secrets, he kills you directly," Owusu-Bempah alleged.

"If no one is willing to say this, I will say it: TB Joshua is the anti-christ and an agent of the devil... I know of a pastor who attended his church, and when he should tell you about what he saw, your mouth would drop," he stated.

Source: http://www.deelinkage.com/2013/05/tb-joshua-and-chris-oyakilome-labelled.html?m=1[/quote]I yam laffing in tongues o!

Lol


Imagine a pastor Judging or speaking against another...if this pastor said God revealed it to him, same God would have told him "do not judge " as He (God) spoke in Romans 14v4

I worship God atimes on my feet, I must be demonic then?

^^
I laff

You said Jesus was a spokesperson? Can you separate a man from his words? Can you separate God from his words?
Jesus never existed as a person in heaven until he resurrected and took off to heaven. He was simply God's spoken word. How then did you conclude he was a spokesperson?
John said AND THE WORD was made flesh, you saying the spokesman was made flesh? God and his words are same, his word was it him from the beginning



Jesus is seated at God right hand, it means he is on the seat OF POWER.

What do you mean by 1Col 1v15? I'd assume you mean col 1v15
?

Col 1v15-20 MSG

15-18 We look at this Son and see the God who cannot
be seen. We look at this Son and see God’s original
purpose in everything created. For everything,
absolutely everything, above and below, visible and
invisible, rank after rank after rank of angels—
everything got started in him and finds its purpose in him.
He was there before any of it came into existence and
holds it all together right up to this moment. And when it comes to the church, he organizes and holds it together, like a head does a body.
18-20 He was supreme in the beginning and—leading the resurrection parade—he is supreme in the end. From beginning to end he’s there, towering far above
everything, everyone. So spacious is he, so roomy, that
everything of God finds its proper place in him without
crowding. Not only that, but all the broken and
dislocated pieces of the universe—people and things,
animals and atoms—get properly fixed and fit together
in vibrant harmonies, all because of his death, his blood
that poured down from the cross.

After reading the above you conclude he's a SPOKESMAN for God? Is God mute? Or too busy to speak?

And you got all your quotations wrong eg Col 1 v 15 and Col 1v 19 aint saying what you trying to say. How would you conclude Jesus was created? How? Except you mean God creted his Words right? But your words already resides in you before you say it? No?

God knows man's heart.The Bible says Jesus knew what was in man’s heart.
The Bible says only God can forgive sin. Well we know
Jesus forgave sin. The Bible tells us we’re to worship
God only. Jesus was to be worshipped and He received
worship, especially after His Resurrection.
So the characteristics that God has are described within the Bible, which Jesus contained. He is God the Son. God the Father so loved the world He sent God the Son, who died on our behalf and that’s portrayed in the Storacle of Abraham taking his son Isaac up the
mountain.

You sound Jehova Witness, pls open a thread let's discuss it further. Thanks

The "Touch" Of Faith · Wednesday, August 28th ·

Pastor Chris

And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me? (Luke 8:45).

Luke 8:43-48 tells the story of the woman with the issue of blood, who having suffered terribly for twelve years, pushed her way through a teeming crowd to get to Jesus. She had said within herself, "If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole." Accordingly, she went ahead, "touched" the border of Jesus’ garment, and was healed instantly. This wasn’t an ordinary touch; it was a "touch" of faith, because the Lord felt the impact of it; so much so that He asked, "Who touched me?"

His disciples wanted Him to shrug it off and said,
"...Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee,
and sayest thou, Who touched me?" (Luke 8:45). No;
God doesn’t ignore the "touch" of faith; so the Master
insisted, "...Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive
that virtue is gone out of me" (Luke 8:46). The woman,
knowing she had received a miracle, came and fell at the
Master’s feet, and stated for what purpose she had
touched Him. Rewarding her faith, Jesus said to her, "…
Daughter, be of good comfort: thy faith hath made thee
whole; go in peace" (Luke 8:48). The Master identified
her "touch" of faith as what connected her to her
healing and wholeness.

In the same vein, you can "touch" Jesus today and
receive a miracle. How do you touch Him today? It’s
through the Word; when your spirit makes contact with
the Word. If God’s Word can "touch" you, it’s exactly
the same as Jesus touching you. This touch is beyond the
senses; it’s with your spirit. The Bible says with the heart
—spirit—man believes unto righteousness (Romans
10:10); you believe with your spirit.

When you believe God’s Word, and respond according to
your believing, that’s the "touch" of your spirit. At that
moment, you make contact with the power of God. The
power only works when you believe with your spirit and
act accordingly; that’s faith: it’s the response of the
human spirit to the Word of God. Let the Word "touch"
you today, and inspire the necessary faith-response
from your spirit to receive the miracle you desire.

Prayer
Dear Father, I thank you for imparting faith to me
through the Gospel. As I study your Word, my faith
increases, and as I put it to work, it prevails and
grows stronger. I’m living the supernatural life of
victory, dominion and excellence in Jesus’ Name.
Amen.

f u r t h e r s t u d y: Hebrew 11:1; Mark 5:25-34

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Reading Plan : 1 Corinthians 12, Psalms 146-150
2 Year Reading Plan : Luke 19:20-27 1 Samuel 16

^^

Read about the KJV here

www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version

BTW means by the way

The world was created through Jesus because God created everything through WORDS, Jesus was God's Words made flesh. John 1

He is the Exact of his BEIGN...

Definition of EXACT : exhibiting or marked by strict , particular, and complete accordance with fact or a standard.

God is a Spirit, Jesus being EXACT as his being means He was Complete as God is.

Okay, can you explain this if you thing Jesus and God aint same

Colossian 2v9-10

9 For in Christ ALL the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.

Two questions sir,
1. What deity was Paul talkin of?

2. I thought that God was ALL powerful ie he Has Power over EVERY (ALL) things? But Paul just told us Jesus is the Head of EVERY (ALL) Power and authority.
Does that not suggest Exactness?

ettybaba: How does paying and collecting your offering, tithe e.t.c online turn into robbery? Would you be happier if they collect cash?

He's against all forms of collection, because according to him, the church members are 'poor'

Angyee: na today? My church has been doing it for a while. In fact you can pay via text too. This is not an issue as someone has said....next!

www.ldsmobile.net/pay-your-tithing-online-with-billpay/

www.easytithe.com/why.htm

www.community.babycenter.com/post/a38457802/paying_tithing_online


This has been happening in other parts of the world. Nigerians sef! Why make COZA's new online tech a big deal?

Most churches in Nigeria does this before COZA...

Na wa o

Wonderful news!!

The Church is marching on.

#GloryToGod'sName

I'm above Death...I'm not the dying type.


*waiting for canal minds to say "so, you will not die shey?"



#Glory

^^
I'm done with d dude.

*unfollows thread

shdemidemi: 1 cor 13

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

Watch carefully please! also take note that prophesy means teaching here.

In verse 8, Paul mentioned three gifts prophecies, tongues, knowledge

He moved to verse 9, He mentioned two gifts that we have in part leaving out tongues. We have two gifts in verse 9 in part, the gift of knowledge and prophesy

He moved to verse 10 to say the gifts we have in part(knowledge and prophesy) shall be done away with. When? when that which is perfect is come, that is, the day we see Christ even the gift of knowledge and teaching would seize for we would have no need for them.

getting it twisted again and yet not answering the question. Let's look at it in the GNB translation

8 Love is eternal. There are inspired messages, but they are temporary; there are gifts of speaking in strange tongues, but they will cease; there is knowledge, but it will pass. 9 For our gifts of knowledge and of inspired messages are only partial; 10 but when what is perfect comes, then what is partial will disappear.

In verse 8, Paul mentioned three gifts prophecies, tongues, knowledge

Correct

He moved to verse 9, He mentioned two gifts that we have in part leaving out tongues. We have two gifts in verse 9 in part, the gift of knowledge and prophesy

Also correct, and it's simply because tongues aint in part na (ie we don't know only a portion of speaking in tongues, do we? If we do, tell me how? Note as MSG translated same We know only a portion of the truth, and what we say about God is always incomplete.

NOW the big question is....has Knowledge been done away with Today as you conversely said "speaking in tongues is done away with" as at present.



Stop interchanging prophesy and prophecy pls.
There is a difference between how prophecy and
knowledge come to an end, and how the gift of languages (tongues) does, as indicated by the Greek
verb forms used. (Prophecy does not mean forecasting
or telling the future. The gift of prophecy in its true
biblical definition means simply “speaking forth,” or
“proclaiming publicly” to which the connotation of
prediction was added sometime in the Middle Ages.


Oya answer the question in bold above

^^
This question he asked and many others has been answered pages back...but the dude has a thing for redundancy. He wants to keep wallowing in same mud, even after you've adequately furnished him with biblical facts.

Joagbaje: The gospel is Gods no 1 business for Christians, To some people Jesus resurrection was just an historical fact, but when you have revelation of his resurrection ,you will preach the gospel with power

Very true, most folks think Jesus just came to die and bring about salvation..but he did much more than just that...that's why He said, Go and tell everyone this Good news, not just the salvation deed, but the victorious life he ushered us into. Sadly enough, many folks are under the bondage of religion, strongholds from years of half truths and falsity. That's y we need pray n teach n Preach this Gospel of Christ every and anywhere.

shdemidemi:

Do I really need say anything more, keep laughing in ignorance jare

When a debate gets to a stage where one party starts making frivolous remarks like you are doing, I understand the need to stop such debate for you are already wrapped up in misery where your ego beclouds your judgement and your conscience from saying 'o I think I got it slightly wrong, I will check it again'.

Your opinion above is duly noted. Thanks

Y did the mods hide my post?

I didn't break any rules na? I didn't even insult anybody. Or tis d fact that my post was bare truth that scaler345 couldn't fathom?

My dear Mods, pls y did you hide my post?

shdemidemi: Do you even bother to read atall?

its one of two things, its either you are too clever to answer dumb questions or you are to dumb to understand valid questions. I guess you are probably taking after your church where people who are inquisitive for answers are seen as agents of devil.

The bible says 'study to show yourself approved' but many Christians and even MOG refuse to study so they tend to avoid questions or treat questions with disdain like my friend is doing here.

If you think you can come here and spew rubbish and also force it down people's throat, you must have a rethink. This is not your church where the tradition is never to question a teacher word of God. If you say anything on this forum you must have the spine to defend it coherently.

I guess uv studied and you've shown yourself approved...a worker who needn't be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth 2Tim 2v15

If you are trying to get me into another argument, good luck at that.
I yam laffin jare

oluamid: Hmmmmm..... You speak in tongue and no one on earth can decipher what you are saying and when asked you say its heavenly language, God dey watch you in 3D.

How come two Pastors speaking this "heavenly language" can't understand each other or are they speaking different dialects?

Come to think of it, are Nigerians the only people with the ability to speak in tongues? How come men of God from other countries don't speak in tongue?

You kidding right?

shdemidemi: This is exactly what everyone is saying to you. The 120 received power when the Holy Spirit came upon them and they became witnesses of the gospel of Christ just as Christ had promised.



Please show me any where Paul says there are tongues of angels. I believe you are trying too hard to protect this error of talking gibberish which best represent a lazy way of communicating with God.

Gombs: 1corinth 13v1
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels , but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a
clanging cymbal.

another redundant Question.

you just must argue, Yes?

Ufuoma UN: Thank you very much brother.

Thank God for his Word,You are welcome! God bless you. *hugs

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature (Mark 16:15).

As Christians, we’re on a mission to saturate our world with the knowledge of God’s saving power, and there’s a special anointing on us to achieve this. 2 Corinthians 3:5-6 says, "…our sufficiency is of God; who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament…."
Therefore,not only are we sent, we’ve been empowered for the
mission. Acts 1:8 says, "But ye shall receive power,
after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me…."
You’re on a mission. The Lord Jesus emphasized this in Matthew 28:19 by saying, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…." You’re to witness to your friends, relatives, colleagues and associates with the sole purpose of winning them to Christ.

The Gospel will only prevail and produce results in men’s lives if they get the opportunity to hear it, for only then can they believe. Romans 10:12-15 says, "…How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent?...."

You’re that sent one—anointed and commissioned of God to take the Gospel to the world.
Value those in your world, and all those that God sends your way; minister the Gospel to them at every opportunity, for you’re God’s voice to them. You’re the
dispenser of His goodness and righteousness.

PRAYER
I give thanks to you, blessed Father, for granting me divine strength, courage, and power to be effective as a soul winner. Thank you for counting me worthy and
appointing me to serve as a minister of reconciliation—
winning the lost in my world—turning them from darkness to light, and bringing them into their inheritance in Christ, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

FURTHER STUDY
2 Corinthians 5:18-20
New Life Version (NLV)
18 All this comes from God. He is the One Who brought us to Himself when we hated Him. He did this
through Christ. Then He gave us the work of bringing others to Him. 19 God was in Christ. He was working through Christ to bring the whole world back to Himself. God no longer held men’s sins against them.And He gave us the work of telling and showing men
this. 20 We are Christ’s missionaries. God is speaking to
you through us. We are speaking for Christ and we ask you from our hearts to turn from your sins and come to God.

Acts 20:20-21
New Life Version (NLV)
20 I always told you everything that would be a help to you. I taught you in open meetings and from house to house. 21 I preached to the Jews and to the Greeks. I
told them to turn from their sin to God and to put their trust in our Lord Jesus Christ.

DAILY SCRIPTURE READING
1 Year Reading Plan : 1 Corinthians 11:2-34, Psalms
142-145
2 Year Reading Plan : Luke 19:11-19 1 Samuel 15

Bidam: Thanks Gombs, you nailed it in one package,very simple and succinctly put.Lol,i may be aggressive but i wasn't impulsive.I am not oblivious of the fact that there are folks who desire this gifts earnestly while some folks are here as demonic entities trying to pervert and make crooked the ways of the Lord,to them i need to be aggressive and not gentle at all.May God open the satanic blindfoldness of these folks to see the redemptive package of Christ.The gospel is foolishness to those perishing as you can see the negative response and insults of some folks here. I accept to be a fool for Christ because of this.

Round of Applause...standing ovation from me. I draw comfort in this, Paul sure faced such folks in his days

2Corinth 4:3-7 AMP

3 But even if our Gospel (the glad tidings) also be hidden (obscured and covered up with a veil that hinders the knowledge of God), it is hidden [only] to those who are perishing and obscured [only] to those who are spiritually dying and veiled [only] to those who are lost.
4 For the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers’ minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God.
5 For what we preach is not ourselves but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves [merely] as your servants (slaves) for Jesus’ sake.
6 For God Who said, Let light shine out of darkness, has shone in our hearts so as [to beam forth] the Light for the illumination of the knowledge of the majesty and glory of God [as it is manifest in the Person and is revealed] in the face of Jesus Christ (the Messiah).

I'd any day choose to be a fool or Slave for the sake of the Gospel of Jesus Christ

You’re On A Mission · Tuesday, August 27th

Pastor Anita

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and
preach the gospel to every creature (Mark 16:15).

As Christians, we’re on a mission to
saturate our world with the knowledge of
God’s saving power, and there’s a special
anointing on us to achieve this. 2
Corinthians 3:5-6 says, "…our sufficiency is
of God; who also hath made us able
ministers of the new testament…."

Therefore, not only are we sent, we’ve been
empowered for the mission. Acts 1:8 says, "But ye shall
receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon
you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me…."
You’re on a mission. The Lord Jesus emphasized this in
Matthew 28:19 by saying, "Go ye therefore, and teach
all nations…." You’re to witness to your friends,
relatives, colleagues and associates with the sole
purpose of winning them to Christ.

The Gospel will only prevail and produce results in men’s
lives if they get the opportunity to hear it, for only then
can they believe. Romans 10:12-15 says, "…How then
shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?
and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not
heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And
how shall they preach, except they be sent?...." You’re
that sent one—anointed and commissioned of God to
take the Gospel to the world.

Value those in your world, and all those that God sends
your way; minister the Gospel to them at every
opportunity, for you’re God’s voice to them. You’re the
dispenser of His goodness and righteousness.

Prayer
I give thanks to you, blessed Father, for granting me
divine strength, courage, and power to be effective
as a soul winner. Thank you for counting me worthy
and appointing me to serve as a minister of
reconciliation—winning the lost in my world—turning
them from darkness to light, and bringing them into
their inheritance in Christ, in Jesus’ Name. Amen.

f u r t h e r s t u d y: 2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Acts
20:20-21

Daily Scripture Reading
1 Year Reading Plan : 1 Corinthians 11:2-34, Psalms
142-145
2 Year Reading Plan : Luke 19:11-19 1 Samuel 15

Kenny4lyfe: Yeah! I noticed that too! I've been observing from the background as well! And @bidam did provide all the answers there is as to the subject in question only that some folks keep asking the same question over and over again. I can understand their position as well 'cus I was once like them.
Psalm 82:5 said: "They know not, neither will dey understand;"
But I thank God for Jesus Christ and His gospel of Light, Life and Love. Now I speak with tongues and signs follow! Gloraay!
Don't mind them abeg! I know what I know and what you think about it doesn't take it away from me.
Keep basking in God's divine favour brother!
Remain strenghened with dunamis by God's Spirit! Amen!

Gbam! Tnx for the prayer

shdemidemi: The Spirit Himself does the prayers and supplication on our behalf with unspeakable yearnings. Is quite shocking that you are seeing 'the Holy Spirit guide me to pray in unspeakable yearnings' in the verse.

Another redundancy
Gooooooodnight

shdemidemi: Answer the redundant question if you would, show me a passage that says Holy Spirit guides you to pray aright. It seem you are trying to force the scripture to say what you want it to say.

Romans 8:26
Amplified Bible (AMP)
26 So too the [Holy] Spirit comes to our aid and bears
us up in our weakness; for we do not know what prayer to offer nor how to offer it worthily as we ought, but the Spirit Himself goes to meet our supplication and pleads in our behalf with unspeakable yearnings and groanings too deep for utterance.

If you don't still get it, pls wait for Jesus himself. Thanks

Lemme me help you understand ARIGHT

a·right ( -r t )
adv.
In a proper manner; correctly.
[Middle English, from Old English ariht : a- , on; see
a-2 + riht , right; see right.]
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English
Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton
Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by
Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
aright [əˈraɪt]

So let's substitute "the spirit helps me to pray (aright) In a proper manner; correctly.

shdemidemi: @gombs

"For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful" (1 Cor. 14:14).

Do you see any difference between the spirit here and the spirit in Romans 8

Now He who searches the hearts knows what the mind of the Spirit is, because He makes.......

There is a small letter 's' meaning my spirit and a big letter 'S' meaning the Spirit of God.

@the above in bold, my answer is Yes there is a difference. Read the below to confirm. I've answered this b4 na

Gombs: Sir, My spirit prays and the HolySpirit guide me aright, to pray as I should.

Told you your questions are redundant sir.

dapsonlou: To the entire idiot that think speaking in tongue is when your pastor shout out gibberish, to speak in tongue is to speak in other languages, Yoruba is a tongue, Igbo in a different tongue. A language different from yours is a different tongue, I’m a Yoruba, when I speak English I’m speaking in a different tongue. Paul Preach in Rome in Latin that is speaking in tongue cause that is a langue different from his language, that’s why he was thanking God that he can speak a different tongue cause he’s able to preach to another race about Christ…. If u does not believe that is what speaking in tongue meanings. Original bible was written in Hebrew then translated to Greek , Greek to Latin then Latin to English, the meaning change a bit, Go and read the Hebrew vision bible and translate it to English, you will be shock what you will learn

OT was written in Hebrew sir, NT was written in Greek. If you said paul saying "I thank my God I speak in tongues more than you all" is because he spoke latin, greek, french, hausa etc, so he was telling that to the corinth Church so that the should go take language classes or ask God to teach them various languages?

What then did Paul mean by this

1corinth 13v1
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a
clanging cymbal.

If as you said tongues Paul was talking of were languages like english, latin et al, what of tongues of Angels. Is it same as french, latin, hausa etc?

shdemidemi: Stop acting like you did a copy and pâste job here, it is a simple question, you shouldn't find it hard to elucidate.

If you say only heaven understand such prayer, are you the one doing the praying or the Holy Spirit?

"For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful" (1 Cor. 14:14).

Romans 8:26-27

Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do
not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit
himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for
words. And he who searches hearts knows what is the
mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

Sir, My spirit prays and the HolySpirit guide me aright, to pray as I should.
God is a Spirit. Man is a spirit, he has a soul(mind) and a body. God contacts us and deals with us through our spirits. He leads us through our spirits. He does not communicate directly through our minds, because the Holy Spirit does not dwell in our minds. And God does not contact us through our bodies either.
It should be comparatively easy for Spirit-filled
believers to locate the human spirit. Those tongues
come from your spirit, down on the inside of you.
You speak the words out physically, but they don't come out of the physical senses. You yield your tongue to your own spirit, and the Holy Spirit in your spirit gives you the utterance.
The tongues don't come out of your mind or your soul.
When you pray in tongues, your mind, your
understanding, is unfruitful. Your understanding doesn't know what you are saying.

I think I'm done here. Your questions are redundant.

But lemme define Body, soul and spirit for you, cos I feel you will still ask

When you are born again, your spirit is instantly transformed into the image of God. The spirit is that part of you which takes on the nature of God.
According to the Word, once that happens you should
immediately start the process of changing your soul.
The Bible calls it "renewing the mind."
Your soul is your mind, your will and your emotions.
Spiritual growth is determined by how much your soul
has been changed by the Word of God. Nothing is
wrong with your spirit if you are born again; the life of
God is in there. You are indwelt by the Holy Ghost. But
you are hindered from living a spiritual life by a soul
(mind) that thinks like the world instead of like God.
This is true because your soul (will) also determines
your actions.
Your Body Is Just Your "Earthsuit"

JMAN05: hmmmm. dear I must appreciate your quote of 1john 5:7, but do you know that this verse is spurious? please read this same verse in NIV or REVISE STANDARD VERSION, you wont find it.

Well Jesus can be called a God(or god), however he is not the same as God almighty. john1:1, didnt prove that the two Gods mentioned there are the same. It will be pleasure to discuss it if you like.

Try read it from the Greek rendering (use google). KJV was the first translated bible BTW, not that I'm downplaying other versions.

And yes I'd love to discuss John 1 with you. Jesus is exactly same with God.

Hebrews 1v3
New International Version

The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact
representation of his being , sustaining all things by his
powerful word. After he had provided purification for
sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in
heaven.

John 1:2-3
NIV (with addition)
2 He was with God in the beginning (as the spoken Word of God). 3 Through him ALL things were made; without him NOTHING was made that has been made

And many more examples.