brocab:
Of course we all believe you" Jesus is Michael the archangel, the first born of all creation. Of course you know God better then us believers.

Which believers? You that said son is also the father, even when you see clearly that they are separate individuals and that the son subject to the father.

brocab:
Yes, do you have a spirit?

Yes I do. As far as I am alive!

Richirich713:


U should be more open minded to it.

Open minded to unscriptural teachings? No na

brocab:
How many times do we answer your questions and still none of you understand them.
Jesus has a God, I have a God, the angels have a God, we are all called sons of God.

Good you agreed Jesus have a God, can he still be his God as you have been arguing?

brocab:
Jesus said one must be born again before He could enter into Heaven; that leaves you out dolpohinheart, you are born into the JW's organization, that has nothing to do with Christ.

Do you even know Christ? Of course not, because if you do you won't say Christ is the father. Jehovah's witnesses unlike you have the true knowledge of Christ, who he is, what he stands for and his relationship with the father.

brocab:
You did demand to find out where I fellowship so who's changing the issue

Was that the only thing you saw in that post?

Richirich713:


As I previously said I'm not here to debate whether the scriptures teaches the trinity. I'm just came here to correct misunderstandings about the trinity and what trinitarians actually claim.

It's better to 1st know what the trinity is b4 saying it makes no sense and that scripture doesn't teach it.

No matter how you explain it the fact is it's unscriptural!

Richirich713:


How can there be one God and three co-existing persons?

Because God's not human, humans beings are unitarian beings, they can't be more than one person. I don't believe the greatest conceivable being must be a unitarian being.




If God were exactly like humans that would be the case, but God is not like human's, he's greater than humans in all properties.

Jesus himself made this statement and it's clear and self explanatory!
He called his father the only true God, and it's clear hear that they are two separate beings.
That's why it's important we know the true God and his son Jesus Christ!

John 17:3
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”

King James Version (KJV)

Emusan:


Then ask him; do you agree with the rendering of John 1:1 by RSV, JB, NAB e.t.c?

If he doesn't then he is an hypocrite because for a translator to left a portion out which is the best to you, the translator's work must be accepted throughout.

Even when some words were invented?

Richirich713:


No, one being, three persons

How? Is it reasonable?

Richirich713:


1. There is one God
2. God is 3 co-existing eternal persons.
3. Each person is fully God.

How can there be a one God, yet they are three coexisting? Is either they are one or three. Is the holy spirit God too?

Emusan:


I know but you don't know! How?

He cited some translations but tell him to show us how those translations rendered some certain verses in the Bible i.e John 1:1, Heb 1:8; then ask him if he agree with them? There you will understand that NTW is their only trusted version of the Bible other translations can be quoted hypocritically when it suits them.

That one uses or prefer a particular translation to others doesn't mean he doesn't trust the other ones.

Sarang:


Ana akogheri!!

Nkogheri abughi nke obere

Jozzy4:

Not at all,my point is Adam Is not in any fictional hell. Gen 3:19

Its Olaadegbu that introduce another lie that gen 3:19 only Means Adams body.

I knew it wasn't you, I am asking him.

must you sound like a broken record all the time? ignore their thread na or stop quoting them, yes they are dogs!

johnw74:


the 1cent I do know, I don't change




I tell you, you won't be telling me anything





Not all are to be assisted, including the self righteous pharisees

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

He is not the original Paul Grundy. he was exposed and he admitted. He is an impostor!

JMAN05:


I don't know abt his site. He was once exposed as not being the real paulgrund.

Thought you said you are a witness in one thread?
They are know for researching on bible topics.

rottennaija:


Advertising your site? I asked a question concerning what Jesus said not what your watchtower organisation write. The question I asked was, did Jesus say that the harvest is the last days?

So you are trying to say Adam is in hellfire now?

Jozzy4:


So the " YOU " is just body not ADAM. ?

Ur lies can dry the ocean , just continue

He said other translations, is the NWT the only translations out there?

Emusan:


Which other translations are you really talking about and Which translation do you trust apart from your NWT?

Are they not separate beings?

Richirich713:


It's in the word itself, a being that is not 1 person, rather it's muti-personal (more than 1 person).

Three Gods, as in equal?

Richirich713:
Let’s put this together in a different form: one person, God the Father, plus one person, God the Son, plus one person, God the Holy Ghost, equals one person

That's not the trinity, it's not 3 persons equal 1 person. This is the doctrine of the trinity :

1. There is one God
2. God is 3 co-existing eternal persons.
3. Each person is fully God.

what is it with this your confusion of Jehovah and jesus being the same nature? Is that the issue?
Or does it make them equal?

solite3:
Continuation
It is particularly interesting to compare Isaiah 45:12( which is a quote from Jehovah) with heb 1:10 (in which the father is speaking about the son)
Isaiah 45:12 NWT " I MYSELF [/b]have made the earth and have created even man upon it, [b] I MY OWN HANDS have stretched out the heavens, and all the army of them I have commanded"
Heb 1:10 NWT " And You at [ the] beginning, O lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are [the] works of your hands".

The same language is used of the Father and the son. Creation is a the work of both hands both have stretched out the heavens, and both sustains all things. But if only Jehovah's hands created, and the Father and the Son's hands created is not the only logical conclusion that both the Father and the son are Jehovah?

By now the dilemma should be clear.
If Jehovah created everything by himself, how is it possible that he did so through a separate being?

The force of the argument is that watch tower is forced to admit that Jesus created and sustains everything. If Jehovah alone created and sustains everything, and Jesus created and sustains all things, then Jesus must be of same nature as Jehovah.

Sarang:


Well y0u cant tell. Only Jehovah examines the heart.
Anyone can Change.

yes you are right

Jessicha:



nice one bro, Jesus is not the God of isreal, Jehovah is.

Jesus have a God , a bitter truth for solite3 to admit.


the funniest part was when he said the Father and the Son are Jehovah. yet Jehovah said " myself" , how can two persons be addressed as MYSELF ? solite3 u really disgraced ur English teacher

I tire for solite mix ups, all in the name of Trinity

Jessicha:


lol, they are replying for the benefit of sincere ones reading the thread .

Well the truth is always clear for all to see.

Jessicha:


he didn't o

Barrister and dolphinheart might be waisting their time after all, they'll never see the truth.

Barristter07:

solite3



see what poor bible reading habit did to you

" God ... these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.
" Heb 1:1,2

His problem is comprehension.

solite3:
As a man when he is through with the work of salvation will be made subject to God

Did you understand that portion at all?

Barristter07:
solite3



you can still continue this lie.

" You can search the translations, FOR IT " johnw74

if you get mind, tell me what he implied by translations ? if its not Bible
.



am expecting your reply .

This your phony friend eee.

dolphinheart:


oh my!

Jman05 once told me he dances azonto with him, he can limp like a frog eee.

paulGrundy:


Also try out jwfacts.com, am sure it would thoroughly answer those questions u have.

The common question asked by JW's disillusioned with religion is- where else shall we go?

The truth is, many ex-JW's are living a more rewarding and happy christain life. I will start a series on ex-JW's soon because of the question of goodnews201668

Meanwhile check out this link.

http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/where-else.php

Stop quoting me this impostor, please. Thanks

paulGrundy:


This is the best Religion:

James 1:27King James Version (KJV)

27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Simple! God does not need an organization or a body to relate to us. He has done that through Jesus and Jesus alone! Jesus is the religion!
Jesus never created nor endorsed any group, any group that claims monopoly is a Fraud!!

Please can you stop quoting me? Thanks