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Logicboy03: Expalining tithes as an old testament to a christian to stop tithing and start focusing on Jesus's message to help the poor like the good samaritan is ridicule?


Your beyond lies and propaganda. You are now flat earth delusional

You see yourself. See as you dey open ya yansh for public forum.... . Now you are saying tithe is OT. So when I telling you on the other thread that what was mentioned about tithe in Matthew-John was still OT, your logic refused you to understand. Here you saying it's OT. Besides, was it ONLY tithe that Christ's teaching was all about You should have preached the total gospel bro.

davidylan: obviously you are intellectually just a child.
Addressing issues from a christian framework does not include arguing against it or using it merely as a tool to beat another with. Quoting the bible as an object of ridicule does not help your case either.

Thank you once again. This has been logicboy's event most time in the year. He argues without using his own logic. He thinks he know and yet knows nothing. I'm not judging his circular knowing but I'm talking about the things of God and the bible. I guess he was only busy serving the communion when he was a Christian then.....

Logicboy03: So you are supporting his lie that I never or I hardly discuss christian issues abi?

What was your impact on atheists, muslims and pagans? I am interested. Afterall, this is the religion section

Atheists, Muslims and Pagans love to argue. Christ didn't send us to go argue with the world. This is the religion session but Muslims have theirs. Only Atheists and other religion are left here. The quality of my post was to FEED that flock. Are you part of the flock of God If not, time has come for you to join the church of God!

Logicboy03: Do you really believe in your heart that you are a better candidate than Anony and I?



God gave you victory abi? Like he did with tithe preacher Joagbaje of last year and Goerge Bush. lolz

Na you sabi. As far as we are concerned, this election is over! Abi no be so Mitt Romney first dey lead Obama? Wetin happen wey Obama come "GO FORWARD" pass Romney in between? As long as we, Christians are in the world, we are the light of world...........

davidylan: This is even a worse indictment of the atheist. You never address issues within the christian framework... in fact you are openly hostile to christianity and YET many christians still voted for you. I would have voted for you simply because you are more active than Goshen. Outside sheer bigotry and intolerance, why didnt goshen garner a single atheist vote?

Thank my brother Davidylan,

Personally I think logicboy is even taking this issue to far. I was surprise he even mentioned this election of a thing on another. You see, the issue about me is, I don't like to argue for too long with Atheist. I make my points and teachings based on the accuracy of what I have studied over the years and I feed the flock of God. Also, I address issues within the Atheist framework but I step aside when it's becoming a prolonged argument and time wasting.

The truth is, we are all one weather Atheist or Christian or whatever. The fact that we don't engage in too many threads doesn't mean we are weak. I did all I did based on time available to me. It's not all about being active on this board but quality of information and impact one is making.

^^^
Thank you my dear moderator. We missed you during the event. You are welcome back. I spoke to MMW and thanked him on the phone....Na you remain o, . Oya PM me chap-chap make I ring your phone.

Okay, lemme step in.

As much as we, Christians appreciate and love logicboy. The truth had been said,

tobechi20: Leson u should learn

we xtian arent as partial as u think. Some xtian actualy voted 4 u but no atheist voted goshen

pride comes b4 a fall.

Be less arrogant dis nex year

team work. GOSHEN suporters workd as a team and even pulld vote from outsiders in romance section

humility and politenes

u argue rudely . Talk llke u know it all.at times insultive. Many posters here had a personal hatred for u more than other atheist. Though u dont say it, you act like MR KNOW ALL.

Gudluck . Hapi new year in advance

In addition to the above, you need to understand that anything can happen in what is called "election". Our victory is solely of God. Man became our tools. There are strategies adopted and you will need to

Take a lesson from the ants God and Team Goshen, you lazybones logicboy. Learn from their ways and become wise!

@ Bidam and logicboy,

Again, can you explain what is going on in the scripture below?

New International Version (©1984)

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Matthew 5:38-39

Can any of you tell us what Christ was doing here

Truthislight,

Abeg leave logicboy joor. The things we say are foreign to his logic.....

musKeeto: @tgirl: I'm surprised this is coming from you, or maybe I'm mistaken. I used to think u were one of these charlatans' defenders...

Today! Deliverance has come to this mountain. One after the other, the captives shall be free. I have always said, in th OT, it was Pharaoh that held God's people in bondage. In today's church, it is lies, heresy, deceits, manipulations and treats that hold God's people in bondage. And Jesus made it clear ONLY the truth that sets free.....no longer Moses. Christ is the way, the TRUTH and the life. Put the equation together yourself. Glory to God!

Logicboy03: I give up.

You want me to interpret some ambiguous bible quote that you didnt put in context?

WHAT!

This is the least I expected from you boy. Don't tell me you want to run away o...... . Okay, for this reason, I'm following henceforth.... . Oh, my bad....I'm already following you, at least to monitor your "logic"...

^^^ So my simple kweshion has suddenly defiled your "logic" .... . Answer that kweshion now before I flog you....

Ahhhh, my brother don start dey play wayo o..... . When you start this kind wayo naw.... Abeg answer my kweshion first joor.

^^^ When a man is NOT praying or prophesying in church gathering, if he wears a cap.....is it against the scripture

Okay, let's lay it down this way.....@ Logicboy,

New International Version (©1984)
"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord'. But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; Matthew 5:33-34

Still under the OT, what do you think is going on here by Christ

^^^ Nooooo brother. I have no issue at all with Kjv. You know from my previous post that it's my favourite and will remain. But there shouldn't be monopoly of translations to believers. There was a kweshion on my mind at the time of the thread, do you mind if I still ask now or we forget about it?

Image123: What is this nonsense, goshen? i just saw it today. You have issues with the kjv, go to King James' grave and deal with it.

Bros cool down o. Na because you said "the bible say so" na.....I called you to come explain.

Logicboy03: lolz about the election

You, being a boy still; mentioned it first. I never did. Hence my reply...in jokes....

Logicboy03: Kai, na religious poster of the year be this?

Goshen360: Na wha for you ooooo. No worry...you will soon recover from the defeat......

You shouldn't have brought that up in this thread in the first place. It's a past issue as far as I'm concerned.


Back to the thread/point please

Frostyzone: The funny thing about church is that even after
years and year of attending you often end up
hearing about the same ten or fifteen stories,
only with a new twist on them each time.
Or better yet the preacher has his own moral
lesson he wants to teach and while he does it
picks out individual lines here and there from
the Bible. So you end up walking away with this
idea that the Bible is mostly stories of "God's"
love and how to be a good moral person.
Well that's because if anything other than those
handful of cherry-picked stories were peached
and the rest of the stories in the Bible were
taught in their entirety, people would go, "Are
these people insane?" and immediately walk out of the building.
Anyways, see the entire
list below. It's pretty damn funny -- well until you
realize people actually believe this stuff.
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2 Kings 2:23-24
Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the LORD. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.
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Mark 14:51-52
A young man was following Him, wearing nothing but a linen sheet over his naked body; and they seized him. But he pulled free of the linen sheet and escaped na.ked.
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Deuteronomy 23:1
No one whose testicles are crushed or whose
male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord.
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Genesis 38:8-10
Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.”
Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother. But what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD; so He took his life also.
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1 Samuel 18:25-2
Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law.
Before the time had expired, David arose and
went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law.
And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.
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Exodus 4:24-25
Now it came about at the lodging place on the
way that the LORD met him and sought to put him to death. Then Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son’s foreskin and threw it at Moses’ feet, and she said, “You are indeed a bridegroom of blood to me.”
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Ezekiel 16:17
You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the
jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you
made for yourself male idols and engaged in
prostitution with them.
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Ezekiel 23:19-20
Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their ge.nitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.
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Judges 3:19-25
And Ehud reached with his left hand, took the
sword from his right thigh, and thrust it into his belly. And the hilt also went in after the blade, and the fat closed over the blade, for he did not pull the sword out of his belly; and the dung came out.
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Deuteronomy 25:11-12
If two men, a man and his countryman, are
struggling together, and the wife of one comes
near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his ge.nitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity.

Logicboy03: Kai, na religious poster of the year be this?



So all Jesus teachings and healing didnt take eefect when he was alive abi?


Look, you havent still given a valid reason why Matthew to John are not part of the new testament when they introduce Jesus

Na wha for you ooooo. No worry...you will soon recover from the defeat......

Cool down make you understand the point I'm making. All scriptures quoted by the OP and my point is to established that the OT did end in Malachi, it ended AFTER THE DEATH AND RESSURECTION OF CHRIST. Christ was born under the Old Testament and obey the OT because that was what was still in effect at the time Christ live.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
When the time came to completion, God sent His Son, born of a woman, born under the law. -
Galatians 4:4

Frostyzone and Logicboy,

Matthew to John are foundational to the NT, they weren't written when Christ was physically alive. What you have in Matthew to John was fully developed in the epistles and fully revealed. This is not to throw the words of Christ away but what was meant in the words of Christ were revealed in the epistles. This is where the church of God belongs, not the OT. The NT church was revealed on the day of Pentecost.

I showed you from Hebrews that "the death of a testator MUST be proved in order to effect a testament" and Christ is the testator of the NT. So how can Matthew to John be NT when Christ still was physically alive then? All you have to do is bring up scriptures from Acts upward.

New Living Translation (©2007)

That first covenant between God and Israel had regulations for worship and a place of worship here on earth.

Hebrews 9:1

Whatever praying, aloud or quiet; if it lacks faith/believing is empty sound that does not go beyond the roof. The Holy Spirit that helps us to pray as we do not know how and what to pray can operate aloud or quietly but we need faith and believe on our side for effective prayer. In addition, wisdom is needed in all. Religious kind of prayer that becomes public nuisance is not of Christ.

@ Logicboy and Frostyzone,

There is what is called "chronological" arrangement - based on how books were written. The context of Matthew to John wasn't NT, but OT. Christ is the MEDIATOR of the NT and without the death of a testator, a testament is NOT in force. Under the chronological writings, Matthew to John was written AFTER the death but the context is DURING the earthly life of the testator. Do people write you biography when you are alive or does your will take effect when you are still alive?

Frostyzone: Yeah.

New International Version (©1984)

For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant. In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it, because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living. This is why even the first covenant was not put into effect without blood. When Moses had proclaimed every commandment of the law to all the people, he took the blood of calves, together with water, scarlet wool and branches of hyssop, and sprinkled the scroll and all the people. He said, "This is the blood of the covenant, which God has commanded you to keep."

Hebrews 9:15-20

See how you bear this one first....

Frostyzone: There are several others in the new testament I didn't quote because of space constraint.
But I did quote one from the book of Mark which is in the new testament. What other excuses do you have to give about that one?

Matthew to John is not NT by covenant, it was only NT by arrangement for purpose of simplicity. NT start in Acts. You want prove?

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whymyheart: [i need help i work with cylinder manufacturing company in Ibadan i had took permission from my company to go for 5 days short training in USA and i had paid for the training i need advice what type of visa category i will fall when am paying for my visa fees at GTB bank and i will like to know likely questions the consular may ask from me during my interview and i will like to know if i need to pay for SEVI CHARGES

You will fall under the business visa, B2. You dont need to pay SEVIS fee, that is only for students.

Edifying! Abraham staggered not at the promises of God through unbelief.

Great words bro. God bless you.

@ MMW, I did commend your hard work in one of my post, check after you left to sleep and before the speech but my bad; I should have mentioned it in the speech, my bad please, I apologize. However, you did a good job in conducting such free and fair election my brother. I believe the Intelligent and Strategic Manager had done his job anyway. I'm just doing my part also. I will give you a call today. Thank you bro.

Permnit me to help you out.......@ OP and everyone,

The bible is a compilation of God's thought in God's university. You don't expect one ONE student or ONE faculty in a university, do you The bible was written to two major groups but then, three namely,

The Jews
The Gentiles
The church of God.

Now, back to the topic, all scriptures quoted are under the old covenant wherein God found fault with the ONLY people He was dealing with at that time. Christianity wasn't in effect until the death of the testator.

@ shessyfavour,

I perceive you are already under "microscope"....lolz. You appeared as student and later same year for business conference. They have your information in the system. My advice is, do not say anything contrary to what you have said in both previous application. Also, you may prepare to answer kweshion(s) on your previous denial(s).

funmikosoko: I av bn looking forward to an opportunity like dis. Pls kindly advise me on how 2go abt it. I got married dis year Nov,my husband is a Nigerian-British,n by April I'll b processing my settlement visa. Tho I av 2years Uk visa already. Myself n my husband wish 2visit America towards d end of 2013. My questions now are:
1)Where do I apply from?

I think it is okay to apply from the U.K with your husband.

funmikosoko: 2)When's d best time 2start d application if we'll b travling around Oct?

You can apply anytime but preferably 2-3 month to your intended visit to the USA to allow preparation.

funmikosoko: 3)Since I'll b relocating after I get my settlement visa,whc statement of acct do u think I'll need? I.e UK's or Nig's. As I av already resigned 4rm my work place? Thank you

If you get your settlement visa, best to apply from the UK and if not yet, since you still have a valid 2years UK visa, then apply still with your husband, let him apply and you as his spouse.