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For instance, go through the video on this thread, Here. You will weep for this generation if you have the heart of the Gospel. Some of the the people in that video are "supposedly" called Christians of one church or the other. When I watched that video, I shock my head.

God2man: I believed this vision, if you have any contrary opinion, share. What is the solution to this problem?

God bless you.
God2man.

Big question. Not every pastor are into pastoring for the heart of the shepherd to the sheep. Many are into it to drain the sheep to any length. It will be quite difficult to cure the disease of a house divided against itself because while some are building, some are tearing apart.

seriallink: Buzu.... Subscribing

Na you talk so oo. No be my mouth you hear say pastor wife get winch sha

Another of its kind is when a preacher is preaching in the church and he stimulates the congregation with emotional prophesies, these false preachers tell their members to come out sealing/claiming the prophesy with offerings. I know a lot of churches that does that here in the USA and also in Nigeria, not to mention names. We do not have such practice in the NT Church and Kingdom of God.

@ Delafruita,

Okay. I don resume now. Make we continue. The answer you gave to my question was far way off the track. I also need tithe from you too to tell you that answer, . Very simple answer na eim you dey fumble like this. I just ate eba now and it's making me feel sleepy but I will make to go some length with you.

Back to our discussion on Gen.1:1-2, can we kick off? We will answer the question of how there can be day without the sun and many more. Are you ready now? E be like say the heat don reduce small.

wirinet: Yes fishes survive in water but fresh water fishes cannot survive 5mins in salty sea water. I have seen the Kuramo beach water from the ocean overflowing into the lagoon waters of the Kuramo and instantly you will see the fishes of the lagoon trying to jump out of the water and within 10mins they are all dead.

So unless you postulate that there were no fresh water fishes before Noah's flood, you will have to explain how fresh water fishes and amphibians survived the flood.

It is called the SUPERNATURAL. You are referring to the natural but God can defile the natural to cause a Supernatural effect.

Delafruita: you will in turn pay tithe from the tithes and offering you receive.
still waiting for your kweshion

Okay my kweshion......In John 4:24, God is Spirit

Now, in Gen. 1:2 says, the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the water. My question is, how can Spirit of Spirit moved on the water considering that God is Spirit. Hence, Genesis 1:2 can be rephrased thus,

.....the Spirit of Spirit (God) moved on the face of the waters.

Just only this one kweshion sir.

mkmyers45: I have sent my widows mite now...Abi you no wan tell me? I am not an atheist sha

Noted, that you are not an Atheist but I never see the tithe for my paypal account. You dey carry me dey play ni? send to goshen360@yahoo.co.uk........am waiting.

mkmyers45: Oga mi have you recieved my widows mite

I am not a critic oooo but a careful observer as i hold true to the fact that the bible contains secret truths

See as I carry speed go check my account only to realise you just dey carry me dey play. okay no worry. God dey sha. At least, Apostle go chop from the alter but as you decided to carry my Apostolic anointing dey play for nairaland, no wahala. But bear in mind, no tithe, no answer....lo ba tan.

mkmyers45: Oga mi have you recieved my widows mite

I am not a critic oooo but a careful observer as i hold true to the fact that the bible contains secret truths

Okay, my bad...yours observed and noted. But I never see my tithe sha....make I check now sef. I will brb

mkmyers45:

This one na new discovery....

Which kind new discovery? Una dey quote yeye equivalent just to discredit the bible....all lies. Give me tithe and offerings and I will show you deeper things. I don't waste my time for nothing anymore.....not for Atheists

plaetton: God did not create dwarfism because, like every other genetic abnormality, evolution has a much better explanation for dwarfism.
Infact, dwarfism squarely contradicts the notion of god creating man in his own image.
dont't you agree?

lies.....God creating man in His image is NOT in physical resemblance. You need to stop reading the bible just to look for words to critize. In his image and likeness means to reflect the person and character of God just like the sun, moon and star are to be light bearer because God is light. So man, in God's image and likeness is to be or reflect God's character and person on earth. Again, you need to use concordance and BIBLE dictionary not English dictionary to define bible words because it wasn't translated from English to English.

Delafruita: *reading and laughing*

Abeg, come answer my kweshion jooor. which one be reading and laughing....are you laughing in "tongues" or in "Japanese"?

wirinet: Mkmyers45, let me help you put. The question should be, how did FRESH WATER fishes survive the flood, since 45% of all fishes are fresh water fishes.
You can thank me later.

Now let's see how they wriggle out of this one.

The fact is fishes survive in water. There wasn't science to prove what percentage you are referring to now then. The truth is you guys don't believe the bible - the word of God. So explaining how this happened and how that happened will be hard explaining to you guys. Go back to creation and see fishes that were created. We have "suggested" according to the word of God that everything created have what is called "seed" inside them to produce after their kind. It is possible not all species of animals that was created exist now just like God didn't create Adam a dwarf, so how did people like dwarf came to be? You guys just want to be a critics to the bible.

plaetton: And what hole are you reffering to:

You guys are suggesting, if I am correct, that the fishes were not part of Noah collection because they were safe in their natural habitat, right?

That defies common sense. Ask people who live in riverine areas, fishes and other marine life wash up on shore after heavy torrential rains.
Now imagine a worldwide phenomenom where it rained, poured and hailed for 40 days nonstop, whereupon, every land surface is flooded and everything destroyed, then tell that fishes were spared?
Your bible says everything was destroyed, and you are saying, no no, not everything.
Someone is in denial and its not me.
Who is in the hole?

I just showed that the use of "all" doesn't sometimes or necessarily mean EVERYTHING in an absolute sense. Check the scriptures I gave in Heb. 7:2 and travel back to the event where it happened. Don't just argue because you want to argue.

truthislight:

no, the marine life use to come to the sufface of the ground to find food, so when the flood lasted for 40days they starved to death

O boy...u don kill me with laff finish abeg.......lwkmd o

truthislight: big fish in a big net into the ark

big fish in a big net into the ark

No be small thing o. I don laf tire for here naw.....in fact, una don turn this wonderful thread to playground o. I just can't believe it....interesting thread. Where is OP, e be like say me sef get kweshion ooooooo

Delafruita.....WHERE ART THOU? I have kweshion for you ooo. Make I even see your mighty egoor as you strong reach. Are you ready

mkmyers45: Ok...i don send am

Abeg answer me sharp-sharp

Na lie abeg.....my paypal account na same as my email. I never get anything. just put small change inside my paypal account and I will send you a detailed equivalent now now.....o ya, straight to goshen360@yahoo.co.uk. Paypal account, online na express thing you know.....

plaetton: So turbulence in the water for 40 straight days, enough to flood and destroy everything on all land surface on the earth, would not destabilize and destroy the marine ecosystem?
Is that what you are trying to say?

What are you talking about? Fishes are created to survive in water isn't it? And if the bible doesn't say God created fishes after the flood but rather asked Noah to take two each of the living things UPON the face of the earth so as to PRESERVE SEED UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. The question is, are fishes UPON the face of the earth or in the water? What is your business with turbulence and all that? So it is when fishes are not in the water that they will survive?

If they survive outside water as in, if Noah took fishes also into the ark, then that will mean a supernatural power of God and that, we cannot explain with our natural senses. I don't like to argue for argue sake. I dey wait make 36 hour reach make I explain your RE-PLENISH kweshion AND THE GAP THEORY of the OP.

truthislight: Noah had a fishing troller and a fishing net that he used to catch all the fishes into the ark in two's

He then build a swimming pool in the ark to keep them alife.

Since they were in two's and cant feed on each other he then build a fish feed farm

What !

mkmyers45: Plaetton what do you know about the cubit? do you its correct modern equivalents?

Go online or get a study bible. Most study bible has the equivalents in modern day. Besides, if you want me to give you the equivalent, I will request "tithe and offering" specifically from you so as to make the job faster.

What y' think?

mkmyers45: I did accept your explanation on all didn't i?

Okay, I hear you.....You don accept. Na one-by-one will go dey dismiss all una critics

plaetton: And it makes perfect sense to you that a worldwide flood which lasted for 40 days or so, that destroys everything on earth, would not also kill all marine life?
The marine life was spared of god's wrath?
Na wa o

Abeg no argue for arguing sake, lolz.

The purpose of God asking Noah to take the existing species of animals then was to "preserve seed" on the earth. Specifically living things that are ON THE EARTH. The sea was formed in Genesis 1 and filled with fishes and that is their habitation in the day God created them. If the rest of other "creeping" things perished in the flood, which is water.....will it make sense for fishes not to survive in water?

mkmyers45: He is recharging

Una no go kill me wif laf ooo. My belle wan burst with laf o

^^^
Me sef wan ask him ooo

Chei....see drama between Mr Anony and mkmyers45. I knew where Anony was going when he said mkmyers45 should provide the scriptures.....not that he (Anony) doesn't know where the scripture is but alas, mkmyers45 was caught in the net.

lwkmd oooo. Anyway, make una continue with una drama.....I will brb.

mkmyers45: Gen 7

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

Mr Anony has just caught you in his net.......lolz. So where are fishes mentioned? Abi fishes don become "creeping" thing that creepeth upon the earth ni? I told you, you have to stay within the content of "all" mentioned in the event. Am just saying

Na whaooo. Delafruita version and also CrazyMan's version, whose version will be next....maybe Goshen360's version to challenge the Atheist on their kweshion.....una don dey wait abi?

mkmyers45: but the bible states that 'all' things outside the ark perished...

Ohh, now I understand what you're saying. Yes, everything outside the ark perished. Are we then to say God created fishes and other water creatures again after the flood? Which the bible never recorded. What am saying is that, the content of "all" does not necessarily include fishes because fishes are created to survive in water. I can show you many places in scriptures where "all" is used but when you refer back to the original of such story, the content of "all" will be clear. See, the problem with people reading the bible to just have something to criticize is reading outside context and forgetting to check all available parameters surrounding the text.

Take for instance,

To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace. Heb. 7:2 kjv

What is the content of this "all"? You have to travel back to Gen. 14.

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Reading from the sidelines and laughing**[/quote]my brother, you berrer read from sideline o.....even me wey i say make i just explain small thing don start to dey get fried now, lolz

Delafruita: have fun laughing at my gross inadequacies

What inadequacy are you talking about......you mean you still see yourself as being inadequate? No worry, you are trying bro.....just that you are mixing truth with error.

mkmyers45: then where the water creatures during the flood? did they survive?

Oga, which kind kweshion be this naw? Shey flood na sand? Me think say flood na water naw.....more room of water given to them to swim....lolz

To you it may appear that only women were infertile in the bible but it is not always like that. The reason it may appear like that to you is because, men have physical evidence (semen produced) to show which women don't due to the fact that they don't have science to prove it then.

It is not the case of being infertile but a case of "closed womb" due to God's divine plan and purpose to those concerned. Also, the man can produce semen but it may lack sper.m to impregnate the woman. Moreso, the blessing of child-bearing and carrying pregnancy is on the woman.

I think God will love it simply because you will be explaining the word to edify the church PROVIDED YOU ARE NOT USING HEAD KNOWLEDGE OR EDUCATED GUESS TO EXPLAIN THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD, YOU MUST USE SCRIPTURE TO EXPLAIN ANOTHER SCRIPTURE.

(Besides, I know WHO you are, if you like change your id ten times. You know you can't hide).