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FXKing2012:So because the bible didn't specifically mention masturba.tion makes it not a sin right? When bible said, thou shall not kill, the bible could have have well said thou shall not commit abortion. The word, "Abrotion" didn't appear in the bible but you use kill to justify abortion. So if the word, masturba.tion didn't appear in the bible, why are you looking for word to justify it as not being a sin. The word, "homosexu.al" didnt appear in the bible also and so you can justify it then as not a sin. The word, "sex-trade and prostituti.on" didn't appear in the bible, so we can say it is not a sin then. C'mon my brother, I THOUGHT YOU KNOW BETTER. I DO NOT CONDEMN PEOPLE WHO MASTUR.BATE BUT THE ACT ITSELF IS A SINFUL FROM BIBLICAL VIEW, NEITHER DOES THE SON OF GOD CONDEMN THEM BUT WANTS US TO COME TO REPENTANCE FROM EVERY SIN THAT EASILY TRAP US. Hebrews 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles, and let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us.(NIV) Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, let us strip off every weight that slows us down, especially the sin that so easily trips us up. And let us run with endurance the race God has set before us.(NLT) |
tunnytox:Psalm 2:1(KJV) Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? intimacy is designed by God between a man and a woman. Deal with your self control if your spouse is out of town. God help you. |
Outstrip:First of all, let me ask you and you need to say it openly here. ARE YOU BORN AGAIN? I will respond to the above highlighted. I didn't write the bible. The bible clearly states the process of sin which is thought as conception. Ok. It is not what I believe. It is what the words of the God says. To tell me to give a clear and specific bible verse where the bible clearly points that masturba.tion is a sin is to tell me to show you where the bible clearly point specifically that homosexual is a sin. It is to tell me to show you where it is wrtitten in ink that sex.trade/prostitu.tion is a sin because it is not written in ink. You can as well say abortion is not a sin because it is not written in ink in the bible that it is a sin. Seriously; If you have a problem of self-control and you can't hold your body while your spouse is out of town, kindly deal with it by fasting and praying rather than justifying your sinful act with the word of God. |
FXKing2012:Abeg no lie for my head o. I have not modified my post and you can read it again. I said it plainly undiluted it is a thought that defiles our mind which involves lust and hence makes it impure. The truth remains the truth. You can as well proof to the whole congregation of Nairaland and the world that masturba.tion is not a sin using bible verses as i did just because pastor Chris said so and let's listen to you. You first said, it is not a sin and later you say there are 2 kinds of masturbatio.n. Again, you referred me to read a post where a woman slept with a dead man. How can you even imagine that. I masturb.ated in the past and I can say it openly but the power of God delivered me. The fact that i did it doesn't make it right and I will not hide under bible verse to twist the word of the Living God to justify my sins lest I face the judgment of God. God bless you you my brother. I think am tired of this topic. You can as well prove from the bible mastur.bation is not sin rather than just telling us with words of mouth. Am out of here. |
can i have some more please? |
10. Laban. Gen. 29:20-30. |
No. 9. 7 pillars. Proverbs 9:1 |
8. Mountain of Ararat. Gen 8:4 |
7. Korah. Numbers 16 |
6. Gossip. Proverbs 17:9. |
5. Balaam, Son of Beor. 2 peter 2:15 |
4. King Uzziah. 2 chronicles 26:19 |
No.3 Ezekiel. Eze 8:8 |
No.2. Prophet Jeremiah. Jer 16:1-2 |
Image123:Can't but agree 100%. Better read the word of the living God than horoscope. Acts 20:32 (NIV) "Now I commit you to God and to the word of his grace, which can build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. God bless you. |
werepeLeri:On the contrary, it is not an argument. So you want everybody to also agree/believe you and your mOG statement that masturba.tion is not sin? You and your mOG said it is not a sin without proving it from the biblical explanations and I have simply proved it is a sin. You can as well do us good to explain to us how and why it is not a sin,ok. I didn't write the bible but the bible, the word of the living God determines what is sin or not. |
FXKing2012:This is the first time i ever hear such thing in my whole life. What dictionary gave this 2 kinds masturba.tion. My dear brother, honestly i respect you more than this you are saying. Sincerely. Masturba.tion is mAsturba.tion. FXKing2012:Can you listen to yourself? A woman having fun a dead man and you want us to take that as biblical ground or reason to support masturba.tion? You want us to take examples of any kind from the world to perfect our walk with God? I think am beginning to loose my trust in you. Am sorry. FXKing2012:But it doesn't bother you the little leaven that will spread through the whole lump from the pastor? So it doesn't bother that Christ died for these souls that are languishing in sin and they are being told masturba.tion is not a sin. So condemning the statement of a MOG bothers you more? Well, that is unlike Christ my brother. |
werepeLeri:That is not the issue my brother. It is one thing to commit sin and admit it is a sin and it is another thing to sin but cover it under bible verses. I have masturb.ated in the past so I can explain it to you. How do you get delivered from a sinful habit when you don't admit it is wrong and sinful. I have shown from the bible masturbatio.n is a sin with bible verses. Let those that says it is not a sin also show us with bible verses that it is not a sin. |
diluminati:Na wha for u o. Take am easy naw. |
[flash=400,400] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw9ASi3WdlY?version=3&hl=en[/flash] This is the true story and please stop spreading false information. Thank you. |
Joagbaje:You are right. I hope to get him the pix and link so. People should just stop posting false information on this forum mehn. Beside, that doesn't look like maame water o. haba. smh |
@ FXKing2012, Can you read from page 7 towards the end of the page while masturba.tion is a sin? I hope you get it straight brother. I do not judge you but your statement supporting masturba.tion not a sin is false. |
Outstrip:I gave the biblical point of view how it is a sin. I guess you didn't read my article towards the end of page 7 on this same topic. I also quoted what pastor Chris himself said that it is your body and its got nothing to do with God. Read my article in page 7 above and maybe you can tell us how masturba.tion happens without the process i explained. You can believe any pastor if that is what you choose to but I have decided to believe the living word of God. |
Seriously? As in seriously? Smh. Why do men think they are the way, the truth and the solution? |
diluminati:Smh, na wha for u o. you r too raw. |
smh |
I think greater than David, Jesus had come and established a better covenant for us. This is my understanding. |
Laughing in Spanish language. |
Pastor Chris said, “It is an unclean habit but it is not a sin against God. It’s got nothing to do with God, it all you and your own body” First, HE IS WRONG BY THAT STATEMENT and that makes his statement false. Hence, makes him a false teacher. When a person comes to Christ, such person denies “self”, take up his “cross” and follow Christ and the ways of Christ. Matthew 16:24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. (NIV). Then Jesus said to his disciples, "If any of you wants to be my follower, you must turn from your selfish ways, take up your cross, and follow me.(NLT) Apostle Paul clearly confirms this to be true of believers and followers of Christ. Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ. 1 cor. 11:1(NIV) Hence, Apostle Paul said this to be true when we come to Christ as followers of Christ. Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. (NIV). My old self has been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me. So I live in this earthly body by trusting in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.(NLT) 1 cor.6:19-20 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body. (NIV). Don't you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body. (NLT) Masturb.ation is the self-stimulation to the point of sexual release without the gifting of a spouse. It is not the sexual design of God for couples but it self-abuse or self-serviced through the mis-used sexual organ of our body which is the temple of God as a believer or follower of Christ. Masturba.tion is a selfish act whereby we take advantage of and abuse God's gift, our sex organ in this case. God cares about what we do with our bodies, in public or in private, and He doesn't want us to abuse ourselves in any way. Mastur.bation involves sexual fantasies in the thought or mind of a person which makes it not pure and hence becomes a sin. The Bible clearly teaches that our minds are as important to God as our bodies are and that we are to remain pure in both. When mastur.bating, you are defile the mind with obscene thoughts and then defile your body by using it to act out those thoughts. To "defile" means "to make unclean, to make impure." Every sin and sexual immorality (masturbat.ion inclusive) begins with a thought or lust as established by the bible: "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. T[b]hen when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin,when it is finished, bringeth forth death[/b]."James 1:14-15 (KJV) Matthew 15:19-20a reads, "For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications , these are the things which defile a man." "You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28). 1 Corinthians 6:18 (NIV) "Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body." Also bear in mind we established our body is the temple of God after we come to Christ. The above verse clearly confirms that immoral and unlawful sexual relations defiles our own bodies which happens to be the temple of God. Having established the above that our body is the temple of the Lord and which does not belongs to us when we come to Christ, we are to honour God with it. We do not own the live we live in our body anymore. Also we establised the precess of sin, beginning with a thought as masturba.tion involves illicit thoughts with mis-use of the organs hence making a man impure or defiles a man. It is therefore established as a sin. "In the same way count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness. For sin shall not be your master for you are not under law but under grace" (Romans 6:11-14). 1Thess 4:2-8 (NIV) For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. It is God's will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God, For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit. "Since we have these promises, dear friends, let us purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness out of reverence for God" (2 Corinthians 7:1). |
coogar:Seriously? Isn't this your body the temple of God? Don't you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself, for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body. 1 cor. 6:19-20 (NLT). |
buzugee:I know my brother but their argument is that, masturbat.ion is not specifically mentions as a name. The verse you quote is referring to homosexuality as we call it today but that name, "homosexuality" itself doesn't appear in context or in print. So my thought is, because masturbat.ion is not specifically mentioned as name doesn't mean it is not a sin. |
FXKing2012:So how do you masturb.ate without lustful thoughts? I have done it in the past and am not ashamed to say it. So i know what it means to masturb.ate. Can you tell us how one masturb.ates without illicit or lustful thoughts? Am going to show it to you in few minutes how the process is a sin to masturb.ate. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU OF ALL PEOPLE CAN COME OUT OPEN TO SAY THIS. |
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