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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:56am On Feb 07, 2025
gohf:
Those who take God's Word for granted and refuse to turn around in absolute submission to the Word of God even after they've been unwittingly shown their errors are buying eternal damnation for themselves.

So may my words you have read continue to remain lies to you forever, may you continue to reject them with your fervency 😊 👍. Congratulations 🎉🎉
Lol.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:29am On Feb 07, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
In Jesus Name, Amen! cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:26am On Feb 07, 2025
gohf:
yes the joke is on me, you win. Believe whatever it is that you want.

There was never a hope that you would change 😮‍💨 so ride on 👍👍
It's not possible for me to change from the truth to lies.

If I were you, rather than defending falsehood in the face of obvious truth, I'll humbly reconsider my position with deep consideration for my soul and my eternity.

Those who take God's Word for granted and refuse to turn around in absolute submission to the Word of God even after they've been unwittingly shown their errors are buying eternal damnation for themselves.

If you cannot prove that I lied on this thread, then, you're the one who lied, holding on to falsehood and have refused to shift your sinking ground for the sake of your own soul.

My prayer for you is that God will fill you with the burning desire for Truth and not human doctrines; give you a humble heart to see your shortcomings and not your need to be egoistic; open your inner man to embrace the true gospel and not the doctrines of demons; and provide you a pathway to choose salvation instead of religious loyalty.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op):
gohf:
exposing you 🤣 lol you can go ahead and call me a liar for life. The issue is you will only increase your punishment but that shouldn't stop you, are you not 100% sure you are right 😊 so keep up your confidence 👍

Lol I never took you seriously to attempt "exposing you" 😮‍💨 even a child would see your nonsense when reading the simple exchanges we have had
The normal rhetoric of iars after they're challenged to prove themselves. They usually shoot back a retort to escape their shame.

Instead of the gibberish you typed up there, a fewer lines of reference to prove yourself would have suffice. You don't take me serious, yet you spewed so much gibberish without proving a single thing against me. May God have mercy on your soul.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op):
gohf:
Rev.1.8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come, the Almighty One."

No matter how much you try to change the truth to fit your lies it will never become the truth. The devil will keep bringing up new ways to deceive you.

So it was God who died for you? Not Jesus anymore?
The joke is on you! That verse says the One who was" which is Jesus who died, but you're confused claiming God was the One calling Himself the Beginning and the End in that verse. So, with this your confused question, do you now agree that it was Jesus speaking and not God? Do you now agree that Jesus is the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and Omega, The Almighty?

So the words Jesus spoke were from himself and not from God anymore? Continue.
How does that change the fact that Jesus was the One who spoke to John in Revelation 1?

So if I quote what God said in Isaiah I am now God and the originator of those words. Continue you will soon reach the bottom of the pit you are digging
SMH.

The difference here is that the Speaker was not quoting anyone. Or did you see the words in quote? He was speaking His normal language for identification sake as He introduced Himself. John knew clearly by those words Who it was that was speaking to him.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 10:49pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
I have been doing that even in your previous thread. You just choose to be blind or better yet be pretentious
We're now talking about this very thread dear. You said I'm blind and a liar to deny that you have debunked me on this thread. Prove yourself right now and stop using escapist responses.

Show me how you too the verse on this thread and exposed me to have lied or manipulated the verse.

I beg you to do that now or be called a liar for life!
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 10:45pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
to show you are a confused person deliberately letting yourself to be used.

This is what you are responding to, "really you were show three entities". You are just a liar. Even simple personal questions you can not answer with confidence, you will either avoid it or start typing nonsense
This is what you said that I responded to:

really you were show three entities 😀

Even Jesus did not call the Holy Spirit God but continue your story
And I told you that if your spirit is called man, what should God's spirit be called?

You're just a liar man.

I've screenshot you below:

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 10:28pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
you are just a confused human that's why truthseeker10 was laughing at you saying so Jesus is no more in heaven right
Where did he say Jesus is no more in heaven? Point me to where he said that..

You who say Jesus has no physical body, listen to what the bible calls you and your rubbish demonstration of truths
Where did I say Jesus has no physical body? Please point me to where I said that!

[A quote]2John.1.7 There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was truly human, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: Deceiver! Antichrist![/quote]Quiting from your manipulated scriptures. Lol.

The original Greek said jESUS CAME IN THE FLESH. it never said Jesus was truly human. These is a demonic rendering of that verse. I have attached the original Greek translation below. Check it out.

This verse is corroborating what I have been saying. Jesus CAME IN THE FLESH. The flesh is a vehicle that Jesus came in. The flesh is not Jesus.

You are a deceiver. The previous time I quoted this verse for you, you challenged it and accused it of lying against Jesus
You're the deceiver actually. Copiously lying against the word of God and manipulating scriptures to suite your false narratives.

See the Greek Interlinear attached. Debunk it since you know Greek more than even AI.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 10:15pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
are you not confused, which verse did you use or quote correctly that I didn't "debunk" is it not just revelations I did and you are here lying again shamelessly.

The fact you lie about simple things like this is already shocking that you claim to teach and clarify others
Please debunk my lies. Expose me. Just point me to where you dissected the verse I have used to create this thread, and proved my reasoning to be faulty.

I'm seriously begging you to expose me. You cannot just be alleging someone by mere shouting that the person has lied without proof!
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:47pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
Rev.1.8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, He Who is and Who was and Who is to come, the Almighty (the Ruler of all).
Look at it, verse 8:

8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was {the One who died), and which is to come (the One Coming again), the Almighty.

Now tell me, how:

1! God is - Yeah, God the Father is, and so is Jesus.
2. God was - God the Father NEVER WAS. He always IS. But Jesus WAS, when He died.
3. Is to Come - God the Father is NEVER TO COME. JESUS is the One who.us coming.

Jesus fulfilled all description in this verse, God fulfilled only one. Hence, the verse refers to Jesus speaking. He was first introduced in verse 1 and 2 as the One who signified these things to John. He now introduced Himself in verse 8.

Now, if you think God the Father wa the One speaking to John, when it was said expressly that Jesus was the One who signified these things to His servant John to be delivered to the Churches, then, I'm afraid.

Rev.21.5 - And the one sitting on the throne [/b]said, "Look, I am making all things new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true."
6 - And [b]he also said, "It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega--the Beginning and the End.
To all who are thirsty I will give the springs of the water of life without charge!
Rev.21.7 - All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their God, and they will be my children.
Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."
Jesus was clearly the One speaking here too. The Word "It is Finished* is a literal reminder of Jesus' same Word on the cross. Then, "To all who are thirsty, I will give of the springs of the water of Life" is a word of promised made by Jesus to the Samaritan woman in John 4, and at the feast in John 7:37-38. These are the exact same words of Jesus. You don't even need to confuse this verse at all.

Rev.22.9 - But again he said, "No, don't worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this scroll. Worship God!"

The person here is clearly the angel who has been the one conveying John from one revelation site to the other.


[quote]Rev.22.10 - Then he instructed me, "Do not seal up the prophetic words you have written, for the time is near.
Rev.22.11 - Let the one who is doing wrong continue to do wrong; the one who is vile, continue to be vile; the one who is good, continue to do good; and the one who is holy, continue in holiness."
Rev.22.12 - "See, I am coming soon, and my reward is with me, to repay all according to their deeds.
Rev.22.13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."
So, who is coming soon? God the Father or Jesus?

Rev.22.14 - Blessed are those who wash their robes so they can enter through the gates of the city and eat the fruit from the tree of life.
Rev.22.15 - Outside the city are the dogs--the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idol worshipers, and all who love to live a lie.
Amen! Even so come, Lord Jesus. And the Spirit and the Bride says come.

🤣🤣🤣 how will you know the truth when you called Moses the house, now you are shameless avoiding your error. A confused person wants to clarify things, there's plank in your eye
We are God's house, perhaps you don't know. Jesus is not a house but the Builder. "I will Build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail."
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:19pm On Feb 06, 2025
sonmvayina:
So what was existing before the beginning?
And
Where did God create the universe?
There's no beginning, the concept of beginning is earthly. For man to understand , God Himself is the Beginning. In actual really, what we have is Eternity.

Marduk is the same as Hashem In judaism, he is also the same as Olodumare in Yoruba and Chineke. Same creator God, different nomenclature.
The nomenclature does not matter. What matters is who your Marduk is. If he's the universe, then, he's not God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:15pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
so you agree your god is 3 different persons. And you confuse yourself that you have a god
Three different persons in manifestation but one in essence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:14pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
is it because you are blind or you are pretending to be that you avoid all the verses and words I have posted. You can read them from the beginning maybe God out of His mercy will open your eyes
By posting verses and words, you're creating a new line of argument. That's not how to debunk a a position.

Take the verse I postulated and say what I said about that verse is not true. Puncture my interpretation or find a new and verified meaning to the Greek word I explained. That's how to debunk. Not by creating new lines of argument that has nothing to do with the actual argument.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:11pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
Well men don't give birth 😂, Mary gave birth to Jesus he didn't fall from the sky, she conceived him by God's power and spirit and gave birth to him.
Yes, she received Him by God's power and Spirit. He was not a product of any man's semen.

The Scriptures say He was the Word who in the Beginning with God, became flesh and dwelt among men.

Anyway you went from writing this, "By saying Jesus is God, we do not refer to the man but to the Spirit within the man Jesus."

To typing the above nonsense, are you not confused, are you not making a mockery of God's word. So Jesus was no more a man filled with the spirit of God right?
If Jesus was a just a man filled with the spirit of God, then His mission ended when He left the earth. That way, He lied when He said "Lol, I am with you even unto the end of the world "

K
eep twisting and turning like a brood of viper
No, sit down and learn. We would teach you Wisdom.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:06pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
really you were show three entities 😀

Even Jesus did not call the Holy Spirit God but continue your story 🍿
Is the spirit of gohf called man or dog?

If the spirit of gohf is man, also called the inner man, what is the Spirit of God?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:04pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
one of your demonstrations of truth
Absolutely!
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:03pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
in your arrogance you would accuse the apostles who testify of Jesus of lying against Jesus because they say he is a human sent by God who comes from God.
Yes,He was a human in His body as I said previously.

Jesus never called himself the beginning and the end, you are the one lying against him.

This shows you really don't know the Bible, you're just a noise maker.

In Revelation 22:13, Jesus said:

I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

]Look you can only attempt to copy wisdom but never truly have it except to receive it from God so go back to your chatGP and metaAI since you do not want to repent and receive the Holy Spirit from God who will teach you the truth.
Buy the truth and sell it not, even wisdom, knowledge and understanding.

Since you talk contrary to the Word of God and have displayed crass ignorance by declaring that Jesus never said He's the Beginning and the End, you should actually advise yourself.

[,Look at you who wants to teach others, you are calling the house Jesus builds Moses, the house is Moses abi, well done. You are failing already with English you want to use Greek

You are indeed demonstrating your truth
This is it my friend,


Let's break down Hebrews 3:3:

"Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as t[b]he builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself[/b]."

Take note of the bolded for your understanding.

Let's pull it out.

'Jesus is Greater than Moses just as the Builder is Greater than the house. '

This should clarify things for you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:45pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
😂 you have gone fr accusing me of being in a cult to speaking of an organization. Guy you are confused, your delusions are getting worse better ask God for mercy make your case no turn like King Saul own
You call it an organization while I call it a cult. It's not confusing to use both words interchangeably.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:44pm On Feb 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
There is nothing to understand there. You are making no sense.
That's what a child in primary 3 will tell a J.S 1 student when he tells him that 5 - 10 = -5.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:42pm On Feb 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So your heart and intestine is not inside a location in your body?
How does that make me a place?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:41pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
so you wrote, "By saying Jesus is God, we do not refer to the man but to the Spirit within the man Jesus."

So Jesus is God because the spirit in him is God?

Also answer, according to Rom.8.11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you...


So I am God because the same spirit is also in me? 😮‍💨 of course not because that is the deception of the devil
i am not God because the Same Spirit is in me. I have a human spirit that makes up the fabric of my inner man. That makes me a man. Then, I also have the Spirit of God ine. That makes me a man filled with the Spirit of God.


Jesus on the other hand was not born by a Man but by the overshadowing of the Holy Ghost upon His mother. The Spirit of God formed the fabric of His inner Being. Then, to walk the earth, He took up flesh like man.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:37pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
you keep talking nonsense but not surprised your father was a liar and an accuser from the beginning
Be corrected. Your organization has been lying and coming up new lights every now and then. Should I prove that to you? There are many threads here dedicated to exposing the lies of your organization.

So dear, what new lights do you have today?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:36pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
demonstrator, all you had to do was admit or are you denying it.

your truth is that Jesus is a god
All you have to do is counter the Truth as demonstrated. Shouting here and there cannot help you obscure the truth.

Counter me and tell the world that that scripture didn't say what I said it says.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:34pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
this is one of your truths demonstrated that your god is three different persons 😁😀
Yeah, according to the Scriptures. I don't have a god actually. I have a God
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:33pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
one of your so called truths your
god manifests as the son, yet you wrote previously that god is the spirit of the son, anyway so your god who manifests as his own son, spoke to himself about being forsaken on the cross? his own manifestation prayed not his will but his other fatherly manifestation's will
You're just talking can ally.

Did you see the diagram the guy showed me? Go take a look at it again, it answers all your questions.

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct personalities within the same One Person, God.

Don't use yourself to compare God. God can never be like you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:29pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
one of your many demonstrations of your version of truth on this thread.

even Peter and true Jesus deny you
Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God."
17 - Jesus replied, "You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being.
You read the Bible my friend, but you don't understand.

Did you observe the response of Jesus?

The same scripture you quoted said:

17 - Jesus replied, "You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being".

If the physical Jesus everyone was seeing was the real Jesus, does Peter need any revelation from the Father to see Him?

Jesus was telling Peter that "Hey, you know me only because my Father has revealed me to you. Not because you're seeing me everyday."
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:24pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
2John.1.7 There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was truly human, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: Deceiver! Antichrist!
If Jesus was merely a human, are you saying that Jesus lied by indicating He came from within the Father and would return unto the Father?

Are you saying that the Jesus lied when He called Himself The Resurrection and the Life? Are you saying the Bible lied when it called Jesus the Word of God? Are you saying Jesus lied when He called Himself the Beginning and the Ending, the Alpha and the Omega?

Does the Greek word I dissected in my OP mean anything other than Jesus being of the same essence with God? Are you ready to show us that my submission was false?

The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. The Lord said to me: “What they say is good. I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. Deuteronomy 18: 15 - 19
That was as far as Moses could see in his day. When Jesus arrived the scene, this is what was said about Him:

Here's Hebrews 3:1-6:

"1 Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest.

2 He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God’s house (this is where Jesus bore a similarity with Moses).

3 Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder (Jesus} of a house has greater honor than the house (Moses) itself.

4 For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything.

5 “Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future.

6 But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory."

We can look into the original Greek of this verse too to further break it down for you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:59pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
oh I am just getting started with revealing the real truth from the bible and not the nonsense you were deceiving yourself and others with.
You mean the the new light they thought you in your cult which will soon be one old light?
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:58pm On Feb 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So inside a place is not a location?🤣🤣
So, you're a place?

Na wa for you o.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:57pm On Feb 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So because those in occult knows how to send their spirit, does that mean that tou send the holy Spirit?

How can God(father son and holy spirit) be sending holy spirit?
Let's leave your case.

If you don't understand the illustration, then, it's okay.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:40pm On Feb 06, 2025
gohf:
your truth is that jesus is a god
The Bible Truth as already demonstrated on this thread. You can reject the truth but you cannot the reject the consequences.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣funny man....saying things that does not make sense.
How can God(father son and holy spirit) send holy spirit?🤣🤣🤣

Holy spirit is sending holy spirit....na wa oo.
If only you realize how you're sounding.


Should I go back and start explaining things to you again from the beginning?

Even those in the occult know how to send their spirit on errands. You're just unknowledgeable.

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