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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:17pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Bible verse please.

Would you understand?

John 14:26, 16:7.

"26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you."

And also:

Galatians 4:6 (NIV)

"Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, 'Abba, Father!'"

There's only One Spirit. Not two. The one Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:10pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Which one is fake Jesus?

You can tell us.

The real Truthseeker10 is the man within, not the man without who shall die.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:09pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
1 John 1:3 did not mention holy spirit. Can there be a God without the holy spirit?

But the Father and the Son share the same Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:08pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So the body was not Jesus?

Absolutely correct.

The real Jesus was the God within. Not the man without.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:06pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, who is the God that no one has ever seen?

Please go and read the verse again.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:05pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So if the people that Saw Jesus in his days on earth saw God, did they see the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously? If yes mention the people.

Everyone who saw God through Jesus saw the Father, Son and Holy Spirit simultaneously for all three are one.

One of them wrote:

"We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ." 1 John 1:3.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:01pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
If Jesus and the father have the same essence which is God(father, son and holy spirit simultaneously), did anyone see God(Father son and holy spirit) when Jesus was on earth?

Get it right my friend.

Jesus is not the physical man you saw on earth. The physical man was just a representation. A body for Jesus to walk on, on earth.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 2:59pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, who is the God that no one has ever seen?

John said no one ever saw the God before Jesus came but Jesus has come to reveal Him. Your question does not tally. You're still dwelling on the first sentence. You're asking this question after Jesus has revealed God; your question is invalid.

No one has ever seen the Father, Son and Holy Spirit before the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Most of the people in Jesus' day didn't see Jesus either, otherwise they would have seen God.

Only those whose spiritual eyes were opened saw Jesus. And those who see Jesus, see God.

If those people in His days saw Him, they won't even crucify Him.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 2:48pm On Feb 06, 2025

Jesus said, I and my Father are one. The ones is in essence. Not just unity.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 2:37pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣 where did you meet Jesus?

He's with me right now.

Jesus is not a physical Being.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 2:35pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So if God is the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, did People see the The father, son and holy spirit when Jesus showed them God?

You don't see God with your physical eyes.

When Jesus showed me God, I see The Father Son and the Holy Spirit simultaneously .

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 2:29pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
John 1:18 says no man has seen God at any time. So who are these spiritual people that saw God?

King James Bible
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Before Jesus came, no man has seen God. That's what Jesus was saying.

He now added that He has come to reveal Him.

Did He say no man can and will ever see God? He did no man has ever seen God but I have come to.reveal Him.

You dwelt only on the first sentence instead of looking at the whole statement.

John 1:18
N"o one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."

Jesus came to make God known. God came through Jesus to make Himself known.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 2:24pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So when people saw Jesus, they did not see God? Yes or no?

What bears the name Jesus, His body or His spirit?

When canal people see Jesus, they can't see God. When spiritual people see Jesus, they can see God.

Both His Spirit and Body bear Jesus which means Yahweh is Salvation.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 2:08pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, why does John 1:18 say that no man has seen God when people actually saw Jesus?

I have explained that to you.

When people saw Jesus, did they see His Spirit or His body? His body is not God. His Spirit is.

You need a spiritual encounter with Jesus to know the real Jesus.

Christianity Etc › Re: On The Origin of Evil by GothamCities: 1:52pm On Feb 06, 2025

triplechoice:
The psychological phenomenon which you indirectly referred to is called group think. There's no malevolent spirit behind it. . The mind is the cause.

Everyone is susceptible to group think. And religious people, contrary to what you think and want others to believe, are the ones mostly affected by it.

Anyone who strongly identifies with a group, religious or nonreligious , is automatically drawn into the group consciousness which then influences their behaviour at the unconscious level ,making them to think ,say and do things in alignment with the group beliefs and aspirations. The consequences are the reduction of the individual's critical faculty and loss of personal identity which is submerged under the group's identity.

So don't celebrate yet because what you have identified in others is equally affecting you, if not worse. You reason like your peers and act like them without being fully conscious of it.

Did you read what I typed?

What is Group Think?
Group think happens when a group of people prioritize agreement over critical thinking, leading to poor or irrational decisions.

This is not what I am saying. So, you obviously don't understand what I said.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 1:45pm On Feb 06, 2025

sonmvayina:
It is so sweet to see Christians pull out contradicting passages from their scriptures and argue about it...
So hilarious to watch and read....

They all try to make sense out of nonsense....I can't help it,but laff.(Sic)

God is the universe itself. Because the universe is mental.
This is Marduk, (the creator) in Babylonian mythology with the universe as his cloak and Tiamat.

If Marduk is your god, I pity you.

God is not the universe. The universe is a creation of God.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 1:43pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that God is not three persons(Father son and holy spirit) simultaneously according to the diagram?

He is as I have earlier explained.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 1:07pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So where did you see God the father?

God the Father is the God that manifests as Son and Holy Spirit.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Israel Orders Military To Prepare For ‘voluntary Departure’ Of Gaza Residents by GothamCities: 1:04pm On Feb 06, 2025

NOETHNICITY:
The evil military of Isreal

You want a people to depart from the land of their ancestry

I mean what evil people

It's not the land of their ancestry. Please be corrected.

If it's their ancestral land, that means they're already a nation. No need to create any nation then. We're talking about creating a Palestinian state because the nation does not exist.

The land originally belonged to Israel's ancient neighbours, the Philistines who are now extinct. It was resettled by Egyptians and Arabs in modern times. Since these people have vowed that they don't want Israel to exist, it is right for them to return to where they came from.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 12:54pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Does the diagram say God the father or that God is three persons (Father, son and holy spirit) simultaneously?

The diagram says God is three persons but the 3 are not individually the same .

Christianity Etc › Re: On The Origin of Evil by GothamCities: 12:52pm On Feb 06, 2025

LordReed:
Very!

From Greenland's icy mountains,
From India's coral strand;
Where Afric's sunny fountains
Roll down their golden sand:
From many an ancient river,
From many a palmy plain,
They call us to deliver
Their land from error's chain.

Can men, whose souls are lighted
With wisdom from on high,
Can they to men benighted
The lamp of life deny?
Salvation! O salvation!
The joyful sound proclaim,
Till earth's remotest nation
Has learned Messiah's Name.

Waft, waft, ye winds, His story;
And you, ye waters, roll,
Till, like a sea of glory,
It spreads from pole to pole:
Till o'er our ransomed nature
The Lamb for sinners slain,
Redeemer, King, Creator,
In bliss returns to reign.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 12:46pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
According to the diagram, is God a spirit or God is three persons(Father, son and holy spirit) simultaneously?

By saying God is Spirit, we're talking about God's makeup. Just like we say man is flesh. God is Spirit. Meanwhile, the Holy Spirit is also a personality within the Trinity on His own.

God, the Father is a Spirit Being. Not flesh. Then, there's the Holy Spirit.

Now, here's the whole thing:

God is basically The Father who created the universe and who later manifested as the Son to establish a New Creation through Jesus and also sustains His New Christian by Himself through His Holy Spirit.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 12:36pm On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
So if the same essence of the father and son is called 'GOD' according to the diagram, explain John 1:18.

King James Bible
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

How can that verse say that no one has seen God when people actually saw Jesus?

It's simple my friend.

God is Spirit. You cannot see Him. His manifestation in bodily form which is Jesus Christ is God spiritually and man physically. That's why Jesus said:

"He Who has seen Me has seen The Father." - John 14:18.

By saying Jesus is God, we do not refer to the man but to the Spirit within the man Jesus.

For example, God cannot die but the man Jesus died. However, the God Spirit within Him brought back the man to life. Now, He lives eternally.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 11:58am On Feb 06, 2025

gohf:
you speak like you know where the universe came from

Or do you like others also believe the universe did not come from God?

All in your attempt to believe a lie, to rely on more lies.

Gen.1.1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Are you ignorant of the very first sentence in your bible?

Are you also ignorant and lacking faith that you do not understand
Heb.11.3 By faith we understand that the entire universe was formed at God's command, that what we now see did not come from anything that can be seen.

How long will you mislead others before you repeat. Must you teach?

I did not ask you if the universe is God's word, I asked if the universe is God because it comes from God as you claimed in error that Jesus is God because he comes from God.

I said you did not need to answer so you don't add to your blamsphemy

your Idolatry to worship three gods is your spirit of stubborness

Did you read what you typed? I don't understand how you would be providing proofs against yourself and still be feeling great.

The universe is a creation of God according to all the scriptures you quoted up there. Jesus on the other hand emanated from within the fabric and nature of God. Yes, I need to teach you if you don't know how to study the Bible for yourself. If some men in the USA are your ultimate biblical authority instead of the word of God itself.

You didn't ask me if Jesus is the Word of God but I must tell you what Jesus is and what the universe is not. You cannot compare Jesus and the universe. That's infact blasphemous.

Take your time to counter all the points I have made so far instead of building a different topic from faulty logic. You quoted scriptures that say God commanded the heavens and the earth into being, can you show me any scripture where God commanded Jesus into being?

I have shown you from deep research corroborated by AI explanations that Jesus categorically told you that He came from within God Himself and not from among the angels as you false teachers claim. I have shown you that Jesus is the Life, Begining, Resurrection and the source of all things. Tell us how Michael fits in. Which of these things I said so far are lies?

Save yourself from the destructive teachings of your cult before it's too late.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 11:25am On Feb 06, 2025

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree that the diagram below in the screenshot explains the structure of the Trinity?

We're not discussing Trinity actually. We're discussing about the origin and essence of Jesus. However, I'll oblige you.

Yeah I agree, but more than just that. God is the Father. The Father is not the Son but the Son is of the same essence as the Father. The Father and the Son are the Holy Spirit but the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

This might be too high for a human to comprehend but this is actually the reality of God. God is dissimilar to humans.

He is threw but He is one. The Trinity is not a "They' but a 'Him'.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 10:55am On Feb 06, 2025

gohf:
All things came from Father does that mean universe is God?

There's no need answering, is it you
Stubborness is like iniquity and Idolatry. Like your Idolatry to worship three gods is your spirit of stubborness

The universe didn't proceed from within the Father. Jesus did. The Universe was not in the beginning with God. Jesus was. The universe did not proceed proceed from God's power, authority and essence. Jesus did. The universe is not the Resurrection and the Life. Jesus is. The universe is not the Bread of Life, neither is it the Word of God, Jesus is.

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Christianity Etc › Re: On The Origin of Evil by GothamCities: 10:51am On Feb 06, 2025

LordReed:
It doesn't but that's because I'm the one already living in reality while you are LARPing.

Hilarious!

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 6:18am On Feb 06, 2025

gohf:
2Cor.11.12 - But I will continue doing this to cut the ground out from under the feet of those who boast that their work is just like ours.
2Cor.11.13 - These people are false apostles. They have fooled you by disguising themselves as apostles of Christ.
2Cor.11.14 - But I am not surprised! Even Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light.
2Cor.11.15 - So it is no wonder his servants can also do it by pretending to be godly ministers. In the end they will get every bit of punishment their wicked deeds deserve.

Jesus said He came out from within the Father, and not from among the angels. He is the Beginning and the Ending. No angel can take on that title. He is the Guest and the Life. No angel is the First. Absolutely impossible. God is the First.. Jesus is the Bread of Life. The source of Life itself. No angel is the source of Life. Absolutely impossible. Only God is the source of Life. He is the Resurrection and the Life. The Alpha and Omega. The Word of God is was in the begining with God. Without Him was not anything created that was created. God didn't create anything through any angel. He created them through His Word Jesus who became flesh and dwelt among us. His name is called The Word of God according to the book of Revelation. His name is not angel Michael.

False prophets ignore who Jesus said He is, where Jesus said He came out from, what the Scriptures wrote that He did, the names Jesus is called and the God-exclusive titles He bears to call Him Angel Michael.

The Bible clearly reveals that Jesus is God. Anyone who says otherwise is a deceiver and a false prophet.

Christianity Etc › Re: On The Origin of Evil by GothamCities: 6:02am On Feb 06, 2025

LordReed:
The ignorant joker here is you.

How does that change your reality?

1. Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine

Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine

Heir of salvation, purchase of God

Born of his Spirit, washed in His blood

This is my story, this is my song
Praising my Savior all the day long
This is my story, this is my song
Praising my Savior all the day long

2. Perfect submission, perfect delight

Visions of rapture now burst on my sight

Angels descending bring from above
Echoes of mercy, whispers of love

This is my story, this is my song
Praising my Savior all the day long
This is my story, this is my song
Praising my Savior all the day long
Praising my Savior all the day long

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Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:55pm On Feb 05, 2025

The Lord Jesus calls. Open your heart wide to Him.

Christianity Etc › Re: On The Origin of Evil by GothamCities: 8:48pm On Feb 05, 2025

SeraphicWind:
Wow. Learnt something from this. Very Powerful.

Remain Blessed.

Amen, brother.

Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 5:54pm On Feb 05, 2025

1. Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!

Early in the morning our song shall rise to thee.

Holy, holy, holy! merciful and mighty!

God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!

2. Holy, holy, holy! all the saints adore thee,

Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea.

Cherubim and seraphim, falling down before thee,

Who was and is and evermore shall be.

3. Holy, Holy, Holy! though the darkness hide thee,

Though the eye of sinful man thy glory may not see,

Only thou art holy; there is none beside thee,

Perfect in pow'r, in love, and purity.

4. Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!

All thy works shall praise thy name, in earth, and sky, and sea;

Holy, holy, holy! merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity.

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