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Janosky:Are you an atheist? He is the Beginning of all things. Himself has no beginning and has no end. He reproduced Himself to give us Jesus His Son. * Which spirit sent by God did not come from God the Father?It is different thing to come from, and a different thing to come from within. Confused Trinitarian deceiving himself and exposing his folly.If I have not shown you straight from the scriptures, you would have been correct. If you're the one contradicting the scriptures, you're the one deceiving yourself. It is not even a mistake that Jesus called Himself the Almighty in the Book of revelation. You guys would be shocked on that day for allowing some men to deceive you. May your eyes opened. |
Ohyoudidnt:John Bull, is this the song you sing in your terrorist camps? |
Ohyoudidnt:The usual rants of a defeated opponent. Tell me how many Christian organizations have gone on a beheading spree without a cause attached to it! Why are you so empty of knowledge even when you were advices to consult a dictionary? Killing and and commiting gruesome crimes against people who have no previous grudge or issues with you. I mean people loving peacefully and seeing you as a friend until you came for their heads, that's what make you a terrorist. If you have previous scores to settle as in the case of the crusaders, it's a different thing. You as a person know what the truth is but you're a bloody liar who would never stand on the path of truth. I slam clearly upholds the sanctity of every being but you all channel the narrative contrary to the absolute truth and ignore anyone from Christendom that does same.Which Islam? Lol. Is it Mohammed or Boko Haram or ISIS or who are the very Islam that value human lives? The joke is on you. You say the crusaders committed genocide but are too emmbarased and insincere to call them terrorists. Is this trying to hide the truth in shame?Hey, John Bull, am I the one that will call them terrorists of their actions as defined by the dictionary. John Bull, it is your actions as defined by the dictionary that make you a terrorist. I am not the one who designated you a terrorist. A genocide is a genocide and terrorism is terrorism. On Israel and Gaza, you definitely know it is not Islam vs Christianity or Judaism though it may have had some of that commotion. How old Israel got to where was formerly known as Israel you know and developments till date. Is it the non original native Americans thar usurped the land of the native aborigines that are morally and legally qualified to back Israel up on the lands in contention?You should as the same question to the Arabs and all Muslims worldwide who back the Palestinians up on the land in question. The land is Israel's ancient land. That's where Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, David, Elijah, Elisha's and all the ancestors of Israel lived and were buried. How much in dollas was used to expand the armour in very recent times. Alas the trurh is always there but sentiments try to claim otherwise.Lol. John Bull, you make me laugh. You know, you didn't even read what you typed, so, how can you understand? You're even making a position that Americans uprooted the aboriginals of their place, hence, America should allow Israel to be uprooted by the Palestinians and not back them up. Hahaha. You're very entertaining. John Bull, you can't condemn Boko Haram and ISIS like I did the crusaders. Go and sit down, you bloody terrorist! |
Janosky:May God open your eyes. You ignore the Word to cling to doctrines of men. Congratulations to you. |
Ohyoudidnt:You don't even have shame. You still.have mouth to talk nonesense when your brothers in Islam are currently beheading someone somewhere as we speak! I know you CAN NEVER CONDEMN THEIR ACTIONS because deep down in your heart, they're doing the service of your demon.god. John Bull go take a dictionary and learn how to differentiate genocide in war from terrorism! I have condensed the genocides of the crusades nonetheless. Dem no born you well make you condemn Al-qaeda , Boko Haram or ISIS! Do you want to change topic? I'm open okay? Just truthfully confess that you'll like to move on to another topic, and I'll oblige you. Don't write on a topic we're not discussing and middle it up with some paragraphs relating to what we're discussing making you look incoherent and disorderly. How can you ebb understand ordered conversation when your holy book is so disjointed that no narration runs smoothly together with other narrations within the sane contexts? I am so well informed on the Gaza-Palestinian conflict that I'll throw you off board if we start looking into the matter historically and concurrently. |
Ohyoudidnt:Off topic! You talk of characteristics of war without regard to causes? Is this a cheap input or your usual non thought out irritational outburst of ignorance. Is it impossible to resolve land claims without war? Is there any justification for innocent civilians suffering for the egocentric desire of few to control land and wealth?[/quote]On what premise are you asking these questions? Have you asked your murderous brothers these questions already? I have previously confirmed the actions of the crusaders calling them anti-christian. Have you ever condemned the actions of your murderous religious terrorists? What moral grounds do you have to be asking these questions,? Your questions are off point. If we're discussing genocide, then your questions are valid. Moreover, I have previously said the crusaders were genocidal in their war campaigns. They detailed totally from the Christian faith. However, their acts do not construct terrorism. Genocide in war is not the same a terrorism. They had a valid reason for the wars humanly speaking but they committed genocide in the process. That's not terrorism okay? That's why I asked you John Bull to go to school. Move on and away with your poor ability to appreciate plain truthYou've been lying all along. Where the truth? I shouldn't be surprised anyway,, since even your religion calls lies truth and truth, lies. I'll advice you to get a dictionary and lookup the word 'Terrorism'. Your Islamic organizations are terrorist organizations. No doubt. Only God knows how many people Islam has beheaded for the demonic Allah again today worldwide. May your eyes be opened. A god that cannot judge sinners by himself but needs men to help him behead them is no God. |
Ohyoudidnt:John Bull, you better go to school and stop disturbing the world with your illiteracy! If they went to reclaim lost lands, then they'll go to war. What you've described up there are all characteristics of war. Your murderous religion go to behead, maim and do all manner of gruesome atrocities to people who owe them nothing. People who have neither harmed nor attacked them. Your head is filled with satanic verses only, how can you see correctly? The Crusaders waged war and carried out mass killings that deliberately targeted civilians.Civilians suffer in wars especially in ancient times. Everywhere wars are waged, civilians also suffer. There's no single ear in ancient times where there was no civilian casualty. Particularly during the siege of Jerusalem in 1099, the Crusaders slaughtered thousands of Muslim and Jewish inhabitants wading through streets ankle-deep in blood.Even the Romans warred against Jerusalem in same manner in AD 37, the streets flowed with blood. That's called a genocide. The people who never offended Boko Haram, ISIS, AL-QAEDA, ISWAP, etc whom they behead daily for Allah, what are they called? Terrorists! They 21 christians in the OP were killed in like manner to do the will.pf your blood sucking Allah demon. Deborah was killed under same circumstances just because she told them to stop spamming the class Whatsapp group with quranic verses. Are you not ashamed of yourself and of your god? |
Ohyoudidnt:How is this an act of terrorism? Pope Urban II, who initiated the First Crusade in 1095, framed it as both a religious obligation and a way to support the Byzantine Empire against Turkish advances.How is this an act of terrorism? Rather than creating unity, they exacerbated the divide between the Catholic and Orthodox churches, intensified political rivalries, and led to a long-lasting disillusionment with papal authority.How is this an act of terrorism ? The assertion that Allah offers virgins (Hoor al-‘Ayn) as a reward for immoral actions or martyrdom in a manner that promotes violence misrepresents Islamic teachings.Lies! The Quran outlines the rewards in Jannah (Paradise) for the righteous, which include Hoor al-‘Ayn (pure companions), beautiful gardens, flowing rivers, and everlasting joy. These rewards are intended for those who genuinely follow Allah, perform good deeds, and seek righteousness—not for individuals who engage in wrongdoing.Killing for Allah is Righteousness according to Allah. This is the motivation for your terrorist brothers worldwide. The same reason why Deborah was killed and the killers are applauded by all Muslims. The same reason why Pantami said Bin Laden was a better Muslim than himself. Groups that misinterpret Islamic texts to rationalize violent actions often take Quranic verses out of context. Islam firmly prohibits suicide and the harm of innocent individuals.Lies! Mohammed himself was a killer till.his death. He even ordered a woman to be tied to two camels and torn apart alive. Such a wicked soul! All because the woman didn't accept his prophethood. Take your lying mouth away from here! |
Ohyoudidnt:You are unable to answer my questions! Your organizations are terrorist organizations. Agreed? The crusaders fought to reclaim lost lands and unify Christendom. While they also have a motive for wealth, none of these actions are terror inclined. The flight anti-christian marauders and applied force on fellow Christians whom they consider to be dissidents. They never went out to subjugate people of other faiths or behead head for not accepting Jesus while shouting Hossanah. While their actions are anti-christian in all ramifications and are a gross departure from the tenets of the Christian faith, your terrorist organizations are the true face of Islam. They're following the paths that their murderous prophet left for them. Their actions are never confirmed by Muslims. The killers of Deborah never even got prosecuted for their bloodshed. They're walking free and being praised in Muslim circles. Boho haram, ISWAP, ISIS, Al-qaeda, etc are all heroes of Islam. Muslims all over the world are happy at what they do because they're acting according to the instructions of Allah. Allah even promised virgins for such despicable acts. Is the difference not clear? The crusaders clearly ran contrary to the Christian faith even though they did not go about terrorizing people as Islamists do. The Islamic terrorist organizations on the hand are acting true to their religion. Infact, they all consider themselves better Muslims than those who don't kill. |
Ohyoudidnt:How does an attempt to retake conquered land amount terrorism? Can you now see that you're the John Bull? Which conquered land are you terrorists retaking? What aggression are you defending against? If that's what you're doing, no one would call you terrorists. You'll be militants at best. But, you guys wake up in the morning to think of who to kill for your blood sucking god. |
Ohyoudidnt:We were talking about the crusaders, you brought in Alexios. It seems you didn't even know the difference between the two. Are you an illiterate? The term "Crusaders" actually refers to the Western Christian armies that responded to Pope Urban II's call to arms in 1095, with the goal of liberating the Holy Land from Muslim rule. The Crusaders were primarily composed of: 1. French nobles and knights_: Led by figures like Godfrey of Bouillon, Raymond of Toulouse, and Bohemond of Taranto. 2. German and Italian contingents_: Including forces led by Emperor Henry IV's brother, Conrad, and the Doge of Venice, Vitale Michiel. 3. Other Western European forces_: From regions like England, Flanders, and Normandy. Alexios I Komnenos, the Byzantine Emperor, did not lead the Crusader army. Instead, he requested military assistance from the West, which ultimately led to the launch of the First Crusade. He himself was not one of the crusaders. The Byzantine army did provide some support to the Crusaders, particularly during the Siege of Antioch by murderous Muslims in 1097-1098. So, while Alexios played a significant role in initiating the Crusades which were based primarily on self defense and Christian unification, the Crusaders themselves were primarily Western Christian forces defending against Islamic bloodshed. |
AntilsIam:It's their way. |
Ohyoudidnt:He said the crusades were a response to the Muslim jihadists. He had other motives but the defence against murderous Muslims was still part of the motives. Was it only the crusades you listed in your false and deceitful claims? You listed other organizations too which I said were created to defend against you murderers. You couldn't counter that, could you? I read you asking Antiislam about Mathew 24 as a way of countering his stand that the the organizations were founded in response to you murderous lots. Did I read you asking him whether that was how Jesus taught us to respond? Is terrorism determined by how Jesus taught us to respond or by the actual act of terrorism itself? You're terrorists, not because of how mohammed taught you to spread Islam but because of the very act of terrorism you murderers practice. Mohammed was a terrorist, not just because of what he taught but because of what he did. |
Ohyoudidnt:Ma, did you go to school or only the Quran is what you have inside your head? How does this your post invalidate what i.said? Alexios founded an organization to reclaim lost lands on the pretext that he was defending christians against murderous Muslims. How is it a act of terrorism to reclaim your land or defend against murderers? Which of your murderous terrorist organizations is in the act for such purposes? They're avowed to kill, maim, imprison, rape, subjugate innocent people who.havr done them no harm. All in a bid to forcefully make them Muslims according to the teachings of your false prophet who now resides in hell as a just punishment for his lies and deceptions. |
AntilsIam:I like the way you're answering the guy ohyoudidnt. He is a typical Muslim, he'll never speak the truth. All those organizations he listed were organizations formed to defend themselves against Islamic terrorist organizations and other attackers. Just like the crusaders who came together to defend themselves against the marauding Ottoman jihadists. You'll even notice from the names of most of the organizations that they're not offensively organizations that go.out looking for who to kill like the murderous Muslim organizations do. |
Janosky:Irrelevant questions. Jesus said He came out from within (exelthron tou patros) the Father, and not from among the angels. Just prove that these Greek words don't mean what I said they mean. I have a lot for you, you can go through the thread or better still, engage me. |
Janosky:John 1 says Jesus is the Word of God. In the Book of Revelation, His name was called The Wird of God. May God open your inner eyes. |
gohf:So, you're not a member of that cult. Hahaha. He holds the same views about Jesus as you do actually. The only difference is that you believe Jesus was a mere man while he believes Jesus is angel Michael. However, both you and Maxindhouse cannot deny that it was Jesus speaking here: NRevelation 1:8,: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Who is speaking? The One Who is, Who was and Who is to come. The Almighty 1. God the Father is the One Who is. Jesus is also the One who is. That is to say the One who is existing right now. God the Father and Jesus currently exist. Both of them IS. 2. The One Who was, God the Father is not the One Who was. God NEVER was. He never ceased to exist. He always IS. Jesus is the One Who was. He died, and so He ceased to exist for 3 days. "...a little while you will see me no more ." At that time when Jesus died, He became the One Who was. The disciples saw Him no more. They even went a fishing. 3. God the Father is not the One to come. He's always here, we're not expecting Him to come at any time. He always is. GOD THE FATHER IS NEVER TO COME. Jesus is the One to come. The Coming King. The Almighty So, who.is the Almighty? The One Who IS, Who WAS and Who is to come. The Lord Jesus. The Almighty. You can see how it's all interwoven between the Father and the Son as it is in all scripture. This is because they're both the same entity who manifests differently. If you think, Jesus is not God, this verse will definitely confuse you. You won't be able to explain it without errors. If you think otherwise, I challenge you to defend this verse as God the Father speaking and not Jesus. Jesus is the One coming. And He ended His Revelation to John by saying "I come quickly..." Phew! "Even so come, Lord Jesus. The Spirit and the Bride say come." |
gohf:Lol. |
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gohf:It's not possible for me to change from the truth to lies. If I were you, rather than defending falsehood in the face of obvious truth, I'll humbly reconsider my position with deep consideration for my soul and my eternity. Those who take God's Word for granted and refuse to turn around in absolute submission to the Word of God even after they've been unwittingly shown their errors are buying eternal damnation for themselves. If you cannot prove that I lied on this thread, then, you're the one who lied, holding on to falsehood and have refused to shift your sinking ground for the sake of your own soul. My prayer for you is that God will fill you with the burning desire for Truth and not human doctrines; give you a humble heart to see your shortcomings and not your need to be egoistic; open your inner man to embrace the true gospel and not the doctrines of demons; and provide you a pathway to choose salvation instead of religious loyalty. |
gohf:The normal rhetoric of iars after they're challenged to prove themselves. They usually shoot back a retort to escape their shame. Instead of the gibberish you typed up there, a fewer lines of reference to prove yourself would have suffice. You don't take me serious, yet you spewed so much gibberish without proving a single thing against me. May God have mercy on your soul. |
gohf:The joke is on you! That verse says the One who was" which is Jesus who died, but you're confused claiming God was the One calling Himself the Beginning and the End in that verse. So, with this your confused question, do you now agree that it was Jesus speaking and not God? Do you now agree that Jesus is the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and Omega, The Almighty? So the words Jesus spoke were from himself and not from God anymore? Continue.How does that change the fact that Jesus was the One who spoke to John in Revelation 1? So if I quote what God said in Isaiah I am now God and the originator of those words. Continue you will soon reach the bottom of the pit you are diggingSMH. The difference here is that the Speaker was not quoting anyone. Or did you see the words in quote? He was speaking His normal language for identification sake as He introduced Himself. John knew clearly by those words Who it was that was speaking to him. |
gohf:We're now talking about this very thread dear. You said I'm blind and a liar to deny that you have debunked me on this thread. Prove yourself right now and stop using escapist responses. Show me how you too the verse on this thread and exposed me to have lied or manipulated the verse. I beg you to do that now or be called a liar for life! |
gohf:This is what you said that I responded to: really you were show three entities 😀And I told you that if your spirit is called man, what should God's spirit be called? You're just a liar man. I've screenshot you below:
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gohf:Where did he say Jesus is no more in heaven? Point me to where he said that.. You who say Jesus has no physical body, listen to what the bible calls you and your rubbish demonstration of truthsWhere did I say Jesus has no physical body? Please point me to where I said that! [A quote]2John.1.7 There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was truly human, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: Deceiver! Antichrist![/quote]Quiting from your manipulated scriptures. Lol. The original Greek said jESUS CAME IN THE FLESH. it never said Jesus was truly human. These is a demonic rendering of that verse. I have attached the original Greek translation below. Check it out. This verse is corroborating what I have been saying. Jesus CAME IN THE FLESH. The flesh is a vehicle that Jesus came in. The flesh is not Jesus. You are a deceiver. The previous time I quoted this verse for you, you challenged it and accused it of lying against JesusYou're the deceiver actually. Copiously lying against the word of God and manipulating scriptures to suite your false narratives. See the Greek Interlinear attached. Debunk it since you know Greek more than even AI.
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gohf:Please debunk my lies. Expose me. Just point me to where you dissected the verse I have used to create this thread, and proved my reasoning to be faulty. I'm seriously begging you to expose me. You cannot just be alleging someone by mere shouting that the person has lied without proof! |
gohf:Look at it, verse 8: 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was {the One who died), and which is to come (the One Coming again), the Almighty. Now tell me, how: 1! God is - Yeah, God the Father is, and so is Jesus. 2. God was - God the Father NEVER WAS. He always IS. But Jesus WAS, when He died. 3. Is to Come - God the Father is NEVER TO COME. JESUS is the One who.us coming. Jesus fulfilled all description in this verse, God fulfilled only one. Hence, the verse refers to Jesus speaking. He was first introduced in verse 1 and 2 as the One who signified these things to John. He now introduced Himself in verse 8. Now, if you think God the Father wa the One speaking to John, when it was said expressly that Jesus was the One who signified these things to His servant John to be delivered to the Churches, then, I'm afraid. Rev.21.5 - And the one sitting on the throne [/b]said, "Look, I am making all things new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true."Jesus was clearly the One speaking here too. The Word "It is Finished* is a literal reminder of Jesus' same Word on the cross. Then, "To all who are thirsty, I will give of the springs of the water of Life" is a word of promised made by Jesus to the Samaritan woman in John 4, and at the feast in John 7:37-38. These are the exact same words of Jesus. You don't even need to confuse this verse at all. Rev.22.9 - But again he said, "No, don't worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this scroll. Worship God!"So, who is coming soon? God the Father or Jesus? Rev.22.14 - Blessed are those who wash their robes so they can enter through the gates of the city and eat the fruit from the tree of life.Amen! Even so come, Lord Jesus. And the Spirit and the Bride says come. 🤣🤣🤣 how will you know the truth when you called Moses the house, now you are shameless avoiding your error. A confused person wants to clarify things, there's plank in your eyeWe are God's house, perhaps you don't know. Jesus is not a house but the Builder. "I will Build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail." |
sonmvayina:There's no beginning, the concept of beginning is earthly. For man to understand , God Himself is the Beginning. In actual really, what we have is Eternity. Marduk is the same as Hashem In judaism, he is also the same as Olodumare in Yoruba and Chineke. Same creator God, different nomenclature.The nomenclature does not matter. What matters is who your Marduk is. If he's the universe, then, he's not God. |
gohf:Three different persons in manifestation but one in essence. |
gohf:By posting verses and words, you're creating a new line of argument. That's not how to debunk a a position. Take the verse I postulated and say what I said about that verse is not true. Puncture my interpretation or find a new and verified meaning to the Greek word I explained. That's how to debunk. Not by creating new lines of argument that has nothing to do with the actual argument. |
gohf:Yes, she received Him by God's power and Spirit. He was not a product of any man's semen. The Scriptures say He was the Word who in the Beginning with God, became flesh and dwelt among men. Anyway you went from writing this, "By saying Jesus is God, we do not refer to the man but to the Spirit within the man Jesus."If Jesus was a just a man filled with the spirit of God, then His mission ended when He left the earth. That way, He lied when He said "Lol, I am with you even unto the end of the world " K eep twisting and turning like a brood of viperNo, sit down and learn. We would teach you Wisdom. |

