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Truthseeker10:
So the holy spirit is not within everyone but it is everywhere? Are you joking?

Is your inside a place to be included in the 'everywhere'? Or you don't understand English?

Truthseeker10:
Oga you said God(father son and holy spirit) is everywhere. So why is the real Jesus(father son and holy spirit) sending the holy spirit that is everywhere again?🤣🤣🤣

Did I say the Holy Spirit is within everyone? Or you don't understand the difference between everywhere and 'within you'? Did you not read that I said
, He sends the Holy Spirit to dwell in Us? He is with us but He also has to be in us. Or you just only know how to mock?

LordReed:
Zombie o, zombie (Zombie o, zombie)
Zombie o, zombie (Zombie o, zombie)
Zombie no go go, unless you tell am to go (Zombie)
Zombie no go stop, unless you tell am to stop (Zombie)
Zombie no go turn, unless you tell am to turn (Zombie)
Zombie no go think, unless you tell am to think (Zombie)
Tell am to go straight
A joro, jara, joro
No break, no job, no sense
A joro, jara, joro
Tell am to go kill
A joro, jara, joro
No break, no job, no sense
A joro, jara, joro
Tell am to go quench
A joro, jara, joro
No break, no job, no sense
A joro, jara, joro

Holy, holy, holy!
Lord God Almighty
Early in the morning
Our song shall rise to Thee
Holy, holy, holy!
Merciful and mighty
God in three persons
Blessed Trinity!

Holy, holy, holy!
Though the darkness hide Thee
Though the eye of sinful man
Thy glory may not see
Only Thou art holy
There is none beside Thee
Perfect in power, in love and purity

Holy, holy, holy!
Lord God Almighty
All Thy works shall praise Thy name
In earth and sky and sea
Holy, holy, holy!
Merciful and mighty
God in three persons
Blessed Trinity
Oh God in three persons
Blessed Trinity!

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣na wa oo.....so the real Jesus who is God(father son and holy spirit) that is everywhere is still going to the father again that is everywhere? How does this even make sense to you?🤣 🤣🤣

It can't make sense to.you because you're ignorant of the ways of the Spirit.

You don't even understand what Jesus was saying, and you cannot ever grasp it until you're reborn.

gohf:
oh this arrogant pathetic person, only if someone would love you enough and rebuke you and correct you, but sadly I perceive there is none. Indeed God chooses those he reveals Himself to.

This insult does not change the truth my friend.

What lie exactly have i.told on this thread? Do you care to expose it? What is the ignorance displayed? Would you point it out?

I'll want you to consider the truth for your soul. If you're hypocritical, should be hypocritical to.your own soul?

I showed you the truth here plainly , yet you're fighting against it!

gohf:
If I provided proof against myself you should have quoted the proof instead of typing all this nonsense you wrote. Which one is "men in the USA" 😕, this already is proof that it is you, in your own words, "building a different topic from faulty logic"

Now true blaspheme is you calling God a liar by saying no God you alone are not God, your son too is God, why did you lie to us and hide that your son too is God.

A simple question was asked you, you said Jesus is God because he came from God, so is the universe God because it came from God. You are here ranting after typing nonsense like "the universe did not come from God, the universe was not in the beginning"

Now you are talking about men in the US, you who uses chatGPT and METAAI instead of the Holy Spirit

Unlike you who is a false accuser, the evidence on your case is here.

😂 I should take my time to counter you, simple scriptures you lack understanding of, you are now asking me to take my time. Have you not wasted people's time, even when they tell you the truth, your spirit of stubbornness which makes you idolatrous would make you unable to see nor hear. After taking time and teaching it to you did you learn. No you ran to repeat your nonsense yet again. First you deceived yourself by saying undeniable proof, and here you shamelessly refuse the scripture because you lack understanding of it. All you can do is make up some imaginary men in the US yet you are shouting, "I have shown you from deep research corroborated by AI explanations that Jesus categorically told you that He came from within God Himself"


Did I tell you Jesus did not come from God, 😂 look at you where is the fruit of patience, in your impatience to understand you rush to type nonsense about some cult, can you see from your response that you are a confused human being.

My dear, you don't know anything, so let us teach you!

What exactly did I use Chatgpt for? I used it to analyse a Greek word to see it's meaning. I didn't use it to interpret the word of God which is the work of the Holy Spirit. The analysis of the word in Greek then further confirmed what I already received in my spirit.

I have answered your question about the universe coming from God . I expect you to counter me but instead you are just reactional without engaging me in any discourse.

By analysing the Greek word using modern tools, I came to a deep.meaninf of what the word meant, and I gave you here verbatim. If you regard that as a waste of time, you're actually an illiterate.

The Scripture was written in Greek, not English. I am not knowledgeable in the language. I can use AI to.find out if the English translation is really accurate and true to the original Greek writings. If this makes you angry, I'm sorry. But that's the only way we can pull out the Truth and avoid organized deceit like your practice in your JW organization.

Yeah, I mentioned your men in the USA because I understand that you are a Jehovah Witness. A false witness of Christ who does not care about the truth of God's word but rather about the truth of the watch tower publication.

What exactly have you said here that proves the OP wrong? Nothing.!

Truthseeker10:
Where is the presence and where is the indwelling presence? I thought you said God(father son and holy spirit) is everywhere?

You cannot understand.

The Holy Spirit can be within you and around you at the same time

Truthseeker10:
Below is John 14:28.

King James Bible
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

So if God(father son and holy spirit) is everywhere, where is the real Jesus((God)=father son and holy spirit)) going to in John 14:28?

John 16:16

A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

If your intent is to mock, you will never understand.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Oga tell me na...you said the real Jesus was on earth with father son and holy spirit and that the disciples saw all of them. So where is he going to to send the holy Spirit from again na?

I have told you that the indwelling Presence is a different phenomenon entirely.

If you don't even understand basic explanations, how will you understand deep things of the Spirit.?

Please ask questions about things within your ability to comprehend.

The Presence is different from the indwelling Presence which is an introduction to the realm of Power.

Truthseeker10:
So the father son and holy spirit were on earth before the real Jesus came? So what the difference between the son and the real Jesus?

You're really confused my friend.

God is everywhere. He chose at a time to manifest on earth in the form of Jesus to complete an assignment.

Is that difficult for you to understand?

Truthseeker10:
In John 16:7, where did the real Jesus go to to send the holy spirit?

Read the whole chapter.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣you mean that they are in my soakaway?

So before the real Jesus came to earth, the father son and holy spirit were on earth?

Oh, I didn't know you came to mock.

God is everywhere in the universe. His manifestation is not everywhere but His Presence is everywhere.

Truthseeker10:
But you said when they saw Jesus, they saw the father son and holy spirit simultaneously. So why are you showing me scriptures where the holy spirit is being sent? Why the confusion?

The purpose of the sending is for the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. Not seeing.

You see the Father and the Holy Spirit through the Son. This is different from receiving the indwelling Presence of the Holy Spirit.

Truthseeker10:
So when the real Jesus was on earth, the father Son and holy spirit were simultaneously on earth too?

The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are everywhere.

Truthseeker10:
Bible verse please.

Would you understand?

John 14:26, 16:7.

"26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you."

And also:

Galatians 4:6 (NIV)

"Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, 'Abba, Father!'"

There's only One Spirit. Not two. The one Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

Truthseeker10:
Which one is fake Jesus?

You can tell us.

The real Truthseeker10 is the man within, not the man without who shall die.

Truthseeker10:
1 John 1:3 did not mention holy spirit. Can there be a God without the holy spirit?

But the Father and the Son share the same Holy Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and the Son.

Truthseeker10:
So the body was not Jesus?

Absolutely correct.

The real Jesus was the God within. Not the man without.

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, who is the God that no one has ever seen?

Please go and read the verse again.

Truthseeker10:
So if the people that Saw Jesus in his days on earth saw God, did they see the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously? If yes mention the people.

Everyone who saw God through Jesus saw the Father, Son and Holy Spirit simultaneously for all three are one.

One of them wrote:

"We proclaim to you what we have seen and heard, so that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son, Jesus Christ." 1 John 1:3.

Truthseeker10:
If Jesus and the father have the same essence which is God(father, son and holy spirit simultaneously), did anyone see God(Father son and holy spirit) when Jesus was on earth?

Get it right my friend.

Jesus is not the physical man you saw on earth. The physical man was just a representation. A body for Jesus to walk on, on earth.

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, who is the God that no one has ever seen?

John said no one ever saw the God before Jesus came but Jesus has come to reveal Him. Your question does not tally. You're still dwelling on the first sentence. You're asking this question after Jesus has revealed God; your question is invalid.


No one has ever seen the Father, Son and Holy Spirit before the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Most of the people in Jesus' day didn't see Jesus either, otherwise they would have seen God.

Only those whose spiritual eyes were opened saw Jesus. And those who see Jesus, see God.

If those people in His days saw Him, they won't even crucify Him.

Jesus said, I and my Father are one. The ones is in essence. Not just unity.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣🤣 where did you meet Jesus?

He's with me right now.

Jesus is not a physical Being.

Truthseeker10:
So if God is the Father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, did People see the The father, son and holy spirit when Jesus showed them God?

You don't see God with your physical eyes.

When Jesus showed me God, I see The Father Son and the Holy Spirit simultaneously .

Truthseeker10:
John 1:18 says no man has seen God at any time. So who are these spiritual people that saw God?

King James Bible
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Before Jesus came, no man has seen God. That's what Jesus was saying.

He now added that He has come to reveal Him.

Did He say no man can and will ever see God? He did no man has ever seen God but I have come to.reveal Him.

You dwelt only on the first sentence instead of looking at the whole statement.

John 1:18
N"o one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known."

Jesus came to make God known. God came through Jesus to make Himself known.

Truthseeker10:
So when people saw Jesus, they did not see God? Yes or no?

What bears the name Jesus, His body or His spirit?

When canal people see Jesus, they can't see God. When spiritual people see Jesus, they can see God.

Both His Spirit and Body bear Jesus which means Yahweh is Salvation.

Truthseeker10:
So if God is father, son and holy spirit simultaneously, why does John 1:18 say that no man has seen God when people actually saw Jesus?

I have explained that to you.

When people saw Jesus, did they see His Spirit or His body? His body is not God. His Spirit is.

You need a spiritual encounter with Jesus to know the real Jesus.

triplechoice:
The psychological phenomenon which you indirectly referred to is called group think. There's no malevolent spirit behind it. . The mind is the cause.

Everyone is susceptible to group think. And religious people, contrary to what you think and want others to believe, are the ones mostly affected by it.

Anyone who strongly identifies with a group, religious or nonreligious , is automatically drawn into the group consciousness which then influences their behaviour at the unconscious level ,making them to think ,say and do things in alignment with the group beliefs and aspirations. The consequences are the reduction of the individual's critical faculty and loss of personal identity which is submerged under the group's identity.



So don't celebrate yet because what you have identified in others is equally affecting you, if not worse. You reason like your peers and act like them without being fully conscious of it.

Did you read what I typed?

What is Group Think?
Group think happens when a group of people prioritize agreement over critical thinking, leading to poor or irrational decisions.

This is not what I am saying. So, you obviously don't understand what I said.

sonmvayina:
It is so sweet to see Christians pull out contradicting passages from their scriptures and argue about it...
So hilarious to watch and read....

They all try to make sense out of nonsense....I can't help it,but laff.(Sic)

God is the universe itself. Because the universe is mental.
This is Marduk, (the creator) in Babylonian mythology with the universe as his cloak and Tiamat.

If Marduk is your god, I pity you.

God is not the universe. The universe is a creation of God.

Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that God is not three persons(Father son and holy spirit) simultaneously according to the diagram?

He is as I have earlier explained.

Truthseeker10:
So where did you see God the father?

God the Father is the God that manifests as Son and Holy Spirit.