Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:06pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: really you were show three entities 😀
Even Jesus did not call the Holy Spirit God but continue your story 🍿 Is the spirit of gohf called man or dog? If the spirit of gohf is man, also called the inner man, what is the Spirit of God? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:04pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: one of your demonstrations of truth Absolutely! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 9:03pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: in your arrogance you would accuse the apostles who testify of Jesus of lying against Jesus because they say he is a human sent by God who comes from God. Yes,He was a human in His body as I said previously. Jesus never called himself the beginning and the end, you are the one lying against him.This shows you really don't know the Bible, you're just a noise maker. In Revelation 22:13, Jesus said: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.]Look you can only attempt to copy wisdom but never truly have it except to receive it from God so go back to your chatGP and metaAI since you do not want to repent and receive the Holy Spirit from God who will teach you the truth. Buy the truth and sell it not, even wisdom, knowledge and understanding. Since you talk contrary to the Word of God and have displayed crass ignorance by declaring that Jesus never said He's the Beginning and the End, you should actually advise yourself. [,Look at you who wants to teach others, you are calling the house Jesus builds Moses, the house is Moses abi, well done. You are failing already with English you want to use Greek
You are indeed demonstrating your truth This is it my friend, Let's break down Hebrews 3:3: " Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as t[b]he builder of a house has greater honor than the house itself[/b]." Take note of the bolded for your understanding. Let's pull it out. 'Jesus is Greater than Moses just as the Builder is Greater than the house. ' This should clarify things for you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:45pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: 😂 you have gone fr accusing me of being in a cult to speaking of an organization. Guy you are confused, your delusions are getting worse better ask God for mercy make your case no turn like King Saul own You call it an organization while I call it a cult. It's not confusing to use both words interchangeably. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:44pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: There is nothing to understand there. You are making no sense. That's what a child in primary 3 will tell a J.S 1 student when he tells him that 5 - 10 = -5. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:42pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So your heart and intestine is not inside a location in your body? How does that make me a place? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:41pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: so you wrote, "By saying Jesus is God, we do not refer to the man but to the Spirit within the man Jesus."
So Jesus is God because the spirit in him is God?
Also answer, according to Rom.8.11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you...
So I am God because the same spirit is also in me? 😮💨 of course not because that is the deception of the devil i am not God because the Same Spirit is in me. I have a human spirit that makes up the fabric of my inner man. That makes me a man. Then, I also have the Spirit of God ine. That makes me a man filled with the Spirit of God. Jesus on the other hand was not born by a Man but by the overshadowing of the Holy Ghost upon His mother. The Spirit of God formed the fabric of His inner Being. Then, to walk the earth, He took up flesh like man. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:37pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: you keep talking nonsense but not surprised your father was a liar and an accuser from the beginning Be corrected. Your organization has been lying and coming up new lights every now and then. Should I prove that to you? There are many threads here dedicated to exposing the lies of your organization. So dear, what new lights do you have today? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:36pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: demonstrator, all you had to do was admit or are you denying it.
your truth is that Jesus is a god All you have to do is counter the Truth as demonstrated. Shouting here and there cannot help you obscure the truth. Counter me and tell the world that that scripture didn't say what I said it says. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:34pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: this is one of your truths demonstrated that your god is three different persons 😁😀 Yeah, according to the Scriptures. I don't have a god actually. I have a God |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:33pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: one of your so called truths your god manifests as the son, yet you wrote previously that god is the spirit of the son, anyway so your god who manifests as his own son, spoke to himself about being forsaken on the cross? his own manifestation prayed not his will but his other fatherly manifestation's will You're just talking can ally. Did you see the diagram the guy showed me? Go take a look at it again, it answers all your questions. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct personalities within the same One Person, God. Don't use yourself to compare God. God can never be like you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:29pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: one of your many demonstrations of your version of truth on this thread.
even Peter and true Jesus deny you Matt.16.16 - Simon Peter answered, "You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God." 17 - Jesus replied, "You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being. You read the Bible my friend, but you don't understand. Did you observe the response of Jesus? The same scripture you quoted said: 17 - Jesus replied, "You are blessed, Simon son of John, because my Father in heaven has revealed this to you. You did not learn this from any human being". If the physical Jesus everyone was seeing was the real Jesus, does Peter need any revelation from the Father to see Him? Jesus was telling Peter that "Hey, you know me only because my Father has revealed me to you. Not because you're seeing me everyday." |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 8:24pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: 2John.1.7 There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was truly human, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: Deceiver! Antichrist! If Jesus was merely a human, are you saying that Jesus lied by indicating He came from within the Father and would return unto the Father? Are you saying that the Jesus lied when He called Himself The Resurrection and the Life? Are you saying the Bible lied when it called Jesus the Word of God? Are you saying Jesus lied when He called Himself the Beginning and the Ending, the Alpha and the Omega? Does the Greek word I dissected in my OP mean anything other than Jesus being of the same essence with God? Are you ready to show us that my submission was false? The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him. The Lord said to me: “What they say is good. I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. Deuteronomy 18: 15 - 19 That was as far as Moses could see in his day. When Jesus arrived the scene, this is what was said about Him: Here's Hebrews 3:1-6: "1 Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as our apostle and high priest. 2 He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God’s house (this is where Jesus bore a similarity with Moses). 3 Jesus has been found worthy of greater honor than Moses, just as the builder (Jesus} of a house has greater honor than the house (Moses) itself. 4 For every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. 5 “ Moses was faithful as a servant in all God’s house,” bearing witness to what would be spoken by God in the future. 6 But Christ is faithful as the Son over God’s house. And we are his house, if indeed we hold firmly to our confidence and the hope in which we glory." We can look into the original Greek of this verse too to further break it down for you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:59pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: oh I am just getting started with revealing the real truth from the bible and not the nonsense you were deceiving yourself and others with. You mean the the new light they thought you in your cult which will soon be one old light? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:58pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So inside a place is not a location?🤣🤣 So, you're a place? Na wa for you o. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:57pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So because those in occult knows how to send their spirit, does that mean that tou send the holy Spirit?
How can God(father son and holy spirit) be sending holy spirit? Let's leave your case. If you don't understand the illustration, then, it's okay. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:40pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: your truth is that jesus is a god The Bible Truth as already demonstrated on this thread. You can reject the truth but you cannot the reject the consequences. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:38pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: 🤣🤣🤣funny man....saying things that does not make sense. How can God(father son and holy spirit) send holy spirit?🤣🤣🤣
Holy spirit is sending holy spirit....na wa oo. If only you realize how you're sounding. Should I go back and start explaining things to you again from the beginning? Even those in the occult know how to send their spirit on errands. You're just unknowledgeable. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 7:36pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So the holy spirit is not within everyone but it is everywhere? Are you joking? Is your inside a place to be included in the 'everywhere'? Or you don't understand English? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 6:32pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Oga you said God(father son and holy spirit) is everywhere. So why is the real Jesus(father son and holy spirit) sending the holy spirit that is everywhere again?🤣🤣🤣 Did I say the Holy Spirit is within everyone? Or you don't understand the difference between everywhere and 'within you'? Did you not read that I said , He sends the Holy Spirit to dwell in Us? He is with us but He also has to be in us. Or you just only know how to mock? |
Christianity Etc › Re: On The Origin of Evil by GothamCities: 6:29pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
LordReed: Zombie o, zombie (Zombie o, zombie) Zombie o, zombie (Zombie o, zombie) Zombie no go go, unless you tell am to go (Zombie) Zombie no go stop, unless you tell am to stop (Zombie) Zombie no go turn, unless you tell am to turn (Zombie) Zombie no go think, unless you tell am to think (Zombie) Tell am to go straight A joro, jara, joro No break, no job, no sense A joro, jara, joro Tell am to go kill A joro, jara, joro No break, no job, no sense A joro, jara, joro Tell am to go quench A joro, jara, joro No break, no job, no sense A joro, jara, joro Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty Early in the morning Our song shall rise to Thee Holy, holy, holy! Merciful and mighty God in three persons Blessed Trinity! Holy, holy, holy! Though the darkness hide Thee Though the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see Only Thou art holy There is none beside Thee Perfect in power, in love and purity Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty All Thy works shall praise Thy name In earth and sky and sea Holy, holy, holy! Merciful and mighty God in three persons Blessed Trinity Oh God in three persons Blessed Trinity! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 6:27pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: 🤣🤣🤣na wa oo.....so the real Jesus who is God(father son and holy spirit) that is everywhere is still going to the father again that is everywhere? How does this even make sense to you?🤣 🤣🤣 It can't make sense to.you because you're ignorant of the ways of the Spirit. You don't even understand what Jesus was saying, and you cannot ever grasp it until you're reborn. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 6:24pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: oh this arrogant pathetic person, only if someone would love you enough and rebuke you and correct you, but sadly I perceive there is none. Indeed God chooses those he reveals Himself to. This insult does not change the truth my friend. What lie exactly have i.told on this thread? Do you care to expose it? What is the ignorance displayed? Would you point it out? I'll want you to consider the truth for your soul. If you're hypocritical, should be hypocritical to.your own soul? I showed you the truth here plainly , yet you're fighting against it! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 5:19pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
gohf: If I provided proof against myself you should have quoted the proof instead of typing all this nonsense you wrote. Which one is "men in the USA" 😕, this already is proof that it is you, in your own words, "building a different topic from faulty logic"
Now true blaspheme is you calling God a liar by saying no God you alone are not God, your son too is God, why did you lie to us and hide that your son too is God.
A simple question was asked you, you said Jesus is God because he came from God, so is the universe God because it came from God. You are here ranting after typing nonsense like "the universe did not come from God, the universe was not in the beginning"
Now you are talking about men in the US, you who uses chatGPT and METAAI instead of the Holy Spirit
Unlike you who is a false accuser, the evidence on your case is here.
😂 I should take my time to counter you, simple scriptures you lack understanding of, you are now asking me to take my time. Have you not wasted people's time, even when they tell you the truth, your spirit of stubbornness which makes you idolatrous would make you unable to see nor hear. After taking time and teaching it to you did you learn. No you ran to repeat your nonsense yet again. First you deceived yourself by saying undeniable proof, and here you shamelessly refuse the scripture because you lack understanding of it. All you can do is make up some imaginary men in the US yet you are shouting, "I have shown you from deep research corroborated by AI explanations that Jesus categorically told you that He came from within God Himself"
Did I tell you Jesus did not come from God, 😂 look at you where is the fruit of patience, in your impatience to understand you rush to type nonsense about some cult, can you see from your response that you are a confused human being. My dear, you don't know anything, so let us teach you! What exactly did I use Chatgpt for? I used it to analyse a Greek word to see it's meaning. I didn't use it to interpret the word of God which is the work of the Holy Spirit. The analysis of the word in Greek then further confirmed what I already received in my spirit. I have answered your question about the universe coming from God . I expect you to counter me but instead you are just reactional without engaging me in any discourse. By analysing the Greek word using modern tools, I came to a deep.meaninf of what the word meant, and I gave you here verbatim. If you regard that as a waste of time, you're actually an illiterate. The Scripture was written in Greek, not English. I am not knowledgeable in the language. I can use AI to.find out if the English translation is really accurate and true to the original Greek writings. If this makes you angry, I'm sorry. But that's the only way we can pull out the Truth and avoid organized deceit like your practice in your JW organization. Yeah, I mentioned your men in the USA because I understand that you are a Jehovah Witness. A false witness of Christ who does not care about the truth of God's word but rather about the truth of the watch tower publication. What exactly have you said here that proves the OP wrong? Nothing.! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 4:28pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Where is the presence and where is the indwelling presence? I thought you said God(father son and holy spirit) is everywhere? You cannot understand. The Holy Spirit can be within you and around you at the same time |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 4:27pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: Below is John 14:28.
King James Bible Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
So if God(father son and holy spirit) is everywhere, where is the real Jesus((God)=father son and holy spirit)) going to in John 14:28? John 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.If your intent is to mock, you will never understand. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:49pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: 🤣🤣🤣Oga tell me na...you said the real Jesus was on earth with father son and holy spirit and that the disciples saw all of them. So where is he going to to send the holy Spirit from again na? I have told you that the indwelling Presence is a different phenomenon entirely. If you don't even understand basic explanations, how will you understand deep things of the Spirit.? Please ask questions about things within your ability to comprehend. The Presence is different from the indwelling Presence which is an introduction to the realm of Power. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:46pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So the father son and holy spirit were on earth before the real Jesus came? So what the difference between the son and the real Jesus? You're really confused my friend. God is everywhere. He chose at a time to manifest on earth in the form of Jesus to complete an assignment. Is that difficult for you to understand? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:44pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: In John 16:7, where did the real Jesus go to to send the holy spirit? Read the whole chapter. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:43pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: 🤣🤣🤣you mean that they are in my soakaway?
So before the real Jesus came to earth, the father son and holy spirit were on earth? Oh, I didn't know you came to mock. God is everywhere in the universe. His manifestation is not everywhere but His Presence is everywhere. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:41pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: But you said when they saw Jesus, they saw the father son and holy spirit simultaneously. So why are you showing me scriptures where the holy spirit is being sent? Why the confusion? The purpose of the sending is for the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. Not seeing. You see the Father and the Holy Spirit through the Son. This is different from receiving the indwelling Presence of the Holy Spirit. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by GothamCities(op): 3:18pm On Feb 06, 2025 |
Truthseeker10: So when the real Jesus was on earth, the father Son and holy spirit were simultaneously on earth too? The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are everywhere. |