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Corporate2020:
These are just formalities

You think so?

sonmvayina:
I am talking about real history...



Not the propaganda they wrote..

There is a big difference.

Well you only need to read about Cyrus the great.
And what Isaiah says in Isaiah 45:1-7

This is what is written in Cyrus cylindrical seal. I have screen shot it for you.

Compare to what is written in Isaiah 45:1-7

See if you can make the connection..

See also screen shot of Isaiah 45:1-7

Especially verse 1

Nothing in the screenshots suggests that Ezra wrote the Torah or that the God of Israel is Marduk.

You might be surprised to learn that Australia's independence from Britain is not as clear-cut as you think.

The Shocking Facts:

1. Constitutional Monarchy: Australia recognizes the British monarchs (currently King Charles III) as its head of state. For example, king Charles III of England is Australia's current head of state.

2. Limited Legislative Power: Although Australia has legislative independence, the British monarch still holds significant symbolic power. The British monarchs have a say in Australia's legislations.

3. Royal Assent: Bills passed by the Australian Parliament technically require royal assent, albeit a formality. That is to say, the King of England must consent to a bill passed in Australian Parliaments before it can become law.

4. Appeals to the UK's Privy Council: In rare cases, Australian courts can still appeal to the UK's Privy Council.

The British still have a lot of control over Australia. Australia is not fully independent. Many Australians are advocating for a republic, seeking complete separation from the British monarchy.

The kings and queens of England actually double as the rulers of Australia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia

sonmvayina:
Ezra was the one who created Judaism as the national religion of the Israelites.
He wrote the Torah from the priestly sources....
When they came out from the Babylonians exile..

According to Isaiah, they did not even know who the real God was.
That was why God(Marduk )used Nebuchadnezzar to bring every one to Babylon so they can learn about him.
It was God(Marduk) who used Cyrus to send everyone back to their respective lands.
Since Ezra was knowledgeable in the laws of God, he was given all the required assistance to write it and take it along to teach his people..

Google Cyrus or Cyrus cylindrical seal....
See also Isaiah 45:1-7

This is a wrong position. Even while in Babylon, we know of Daniel and several other Jews who actually know God. How many years did they spend in Babylon for them to have forgotten who God was? Only 70yrs. Let's not forget that the Israelites actually have a tradition of instructing their kids from youth.

There are books of the law in existence before Ezra. Ezra might have created Judahism, or preferably, let's say Ezra organized the Jewish religion since the religion had neither name nor organization before Ezra. But, it is evident from Scriptures that the Israelites already had a religion before Ezra. The religion even had a book. Ezra may copy the book for the sake of its preservation. Ezra cannot be said to be the writer of the Torah.

I also disagree with you that God is Marduk.

sonmvayina:
Yahweh is the name of one of the 70 sons of Enlil...married to Asherah.
The Jews worship the creator of the universe and it's name is not Yahweh.
YHWH is does not mean Yahweh..it means YOD HEH WEH HEH...it means "lord most high"..
Not a proper name. There is so much confusion concerning this things..because most people think Moses wrote the Torah, No, Moses did not write the Torah, it was written by Ezra when they returned from the Babylonian exile...so most of the information in it where adapted from Babylonian myths.
So many misinformation out there. You have to really look for the information if you so desire it..

YHWH is not voiced. The English translators may be wrong, so for now I'll agree with you until I find your position to be wrong.

The story about Ezra writing the Torah is a conspiracy theory at best. The BOOK OF THE LAW existed before Ezra. There are so many references to it in the Bible ever before Ezra was born.

God, be merciful on the Muslims and open their eyes.

Maximus692:
So where is the evidence that you are not one of the WORKERS OF INIQUITY?

Muslims have high regard for Jesus and they believe he is God's sent just as those Jesus prayed for {John 17:8-9} so calling Jesus Lord! Lord! doesn't make you special in any way than they are. Matthew 7:21

So what is the WILL of God that really matters?

We have a personal relationship with Jesus.

I pray they listen.

stuffs2002:
Showing care to IIGB0S is like showing care to a snake. They are not capable of love. A snake is created to hate and hate only. I will strike you at it's first opportunity

Let us not make this a general conclusion. They lost a lot of loved ones, their bitterness is understandable. Anyone who has lost a loved one would be bitter and become the enemy of the person who caused the loss. It doesn't even matter whether the person was guilty or not. As long as he caused the loss of that loved one, he instantly becomes an enemy. That's the situation with the Igbos. Let's embrace them in love. Love can conquer hate.

BigYash:
Them the so called grandpa should not complain of the money he spent on the kids,since the kids doesn't belong to him alone. The so called grandpa telling him to pay for taking care of his grandkids show the kind of greedy and stupid home or family op married from. Make una dey run deep check before una marry ,una go say no. See the home of devils you married from now.. I pray your kids doesn't end up with the kind of mind their grandpa and mother possess.

What if the grandpa just said that as a tactic to keep the children with himself knowing fully well that the kids will suffer if they're with the OP. I'm not saying OP would make the kids suffer, but you know the grandpa knows the OP better than us.

stuffs2002:
IIGB0S are the ones refusing to integrate into the rest of the country.

You're right.

Ojukwu was given a state burial as a way to let them know that the past is past. His wife has been given ambassadorial appointments and is now even a Minister to show that the Nigerian state is welcoming them with open arms.

My message of unity is essentially to them. I pray they listen.

Michael547:
Where does the Bible teach that pastors should not sell services or goods to support themselves just like their members?

The Bible does not teach that pastors should sell or not sell goods and services. That's why there are both full time and part time pastors. The OP is talking about full time pastors as he never indicated that the pastors he talked about have side businesses. Hence, the response to him is justifiably in reference to full time pastors.

stuffs2002:
E be like say you no know Igbos ooo

Igbos will never accept they were at fault and the cause of all the bloodshed. Igbos would always claim victims even if killed an entire village.

After the bloody ethnic cleansing carried out by the Igbo officers of the January 1966 coup. Many Igbos still tried to convince people that the Igbos were the victims of that bloody and tribal coup

Lol.

We should all forget the past and unite together to move the country forward.

OT2024:
Attention: Pastor EA Adeboye,
G.O RCCG
Lagos

Dear Sir,

Taking Church Estate as Personal

Greetings to you, sir. I feel compelled to write this message to you as the Spirit directs me.


I will like to refer to this:

OPEN HEAVENS 2024 DEVOTIONAL

On Wednesday, SEP 11, 2024, with the Topic: RECEIVING PROPHECIES, you, among other things stated:


....When God tells me something unbelievable, I immediately begin to repeat it to those He permits me to share it with. I don’t give room for my human mind to process it and express doubts. I confess the prophecy repeatedly so that it becomes real to me. When God told me that He would build me a city, I could not even afford to build a small house, but I announced it to everyone who cared to hear. Today, He has fulfilled that prophecy. When He showed me trailers bringing in cows to feed the crowds that will be attending our programmes...

By this, sir, you were stating that the RCCG camp which has grown to the size of a city is what God promised you. The mixture in the message is claiming ownership of the 'city'.

This same claim has been made in other fora. I believe the claim is not entirely true. The RCCG camp belongs to the RCCG, which in turn belongs to Christ. No man should say it as if it is a personal estate or inheritance.

I believe there are other issues I will like to discuss or pass across to you, sir, but those, I will shelve for now.

Thank you.

I don't think that's what he meant. God built a city for his ministry, which is the RCCG. It doesn't mean the city is his personal property.

sonmvayina:
You are not following..

The God the Jews worship is not called yaweh. They don't call it that because the name Yahweh belongs to one of the 70 sons of Enlil who where the kings ruling the 70 kingdoms in Deuteronomy 10:1-32.
The Jews use the name Hashem.
Do you understand now?

I've seen them using the name Hashen. There are Hebrew songs I know that also mention the name Hashem but Hashem is not found in the Torah.

Yahweh is an unspoken name of the God of the Jews. For reverence, they do not voice the name. They use Hashem instead.

Yahweh has no father actually.

sonmvayina:
I believe you...

Yahweh is none of the listed...

Yahweh is one of the 70 sons of Enlil.

The listed are all different name for the creator in different languages...just like an English man will say spoon while a yoruba man will say sibi....
They both represent the same thing in different languages...
Do you understand?

The Creator has no father. If He has a father, He would not be the Creator.

chidifrank:
Show me a passage in the Bible that says pastors work is spiritual and members work is physical. You don't even know what spirituality is and you just writing all these rubbish sorry to say the least. Many so called pastors have jobs and works aside the church. Even those that don't have job should go and find a job and work except for those living in the church with no home nor jobs aside in the church.
Any man that doesn't live in the church should go and get a job . Only those who live in church with no home elsewhere are allowed to be given something financially as assist from the members and its voluntarily.

Your post did not make reference to pastors that have side jobs. You said Pastors. So, we can only discuss Pastors, and not Pastors who have career jobs!

1 Corinthians 9:11

"If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you?"

Bobodee09:
Firstly people need to know isreal is not a Christian nation..

My opinion about WAR remains the same, it is a needless madness like my father will always say.
War never achieve anything, life will be lost and property destroyed for nothing.

If you believe/claim hezebollah ,hamas etc are Muslim terrorists attacking isreal cos is a Christian nation then you need to do some reading about isreal.

Isreal isn't a Christians nation, infact they dont like Christians. When my dad went to isreal in 2009 on pilgrimage he was told by an isrealite that black people are foolish for wasting money coming to isreal every year to see Jesus tomb.
He got to know they don't even rate or believe in Jesus christ and we will be shouting God of isreal.

This War isn't a religious war, so it make no sense trying to paint it a Muslims vs Christians War.

This nation citizens till end of time will continously live constant in fear of being attacked at anytime so you has a neutral why not preach peace instead of taking side.

I dont take side during War....no matter who throw the first punch let always preaches peace to both sides.


We are humans first before any religion or tribe, for humanity sake don't support hamas or isreal during this madness, preach peace.

When you read from this thread, you'll understand:
https://www.nairaland.com/8244487/why-everyone-everywhere-must-give

Sonnobax15:
whether you call him an atheist or not,is he saying the truth,yes or No?

There's no truth in it. It's pure ignorance.

The pastor's work is spiritual while the members' work is physical. The pastor can pray and influence physical provision for the members because the members have services and goods they're selling. By commanding favour on the members' business, their services and goods will sell and produce money. Meanwhile, the pastor has no service or goods to sell other than his spiritual job of helping those who sell services or goods. After the prayer of the pastor is answered, it is the responsibility of the members to support the pastor to keep him and his spiritual work alive.

However , pastors do share material things with members too whenever they need help. He shares with them and also prays for them.

Dalohad:
When Nigeria is ready for TRUE UNITY. They know what to do assuage the Ibos.

Till then, let us keep pointing fingers, speaking big grammar and penning idealistic litanies that are verbose at best.

Igbos should understand that secession itself cannot come smoothly without unity.

DaddyCoool:
Igbo coup whose aim, from writings of the coupists themselves, was to free a Yoruba man from Calaba prison and make him Prime minister, and one of the coupists was a guy named
Ademulegun, who wrote a book named "why WE struck" NOT "why Igbos struck"!! Weh done

It's generally believed to be an Igbo coup because of the Igbo colouration. The Ibos were the mastermind and also constituted the coup majorly.

Nonetheless, we need to forget the past and forge the future together in unity.

EmekaA125:
6 million Igbos that in the Nigeria-Biafra civil war and it's always easy for a mouth that lost nothing to say "move on let's allow old wounds heal". Hypocrites!!!

There's no region that didn't lose something. We can all move on. We need progress more than we need our grievances.

sonmvayina:
No, you have been lied to...

Yahweh is one of the 70 sons of Enlil who is married to Asherah. They are the Baals and Asherah mentioned in the books of kings..

The creator of the universe is not a thing, people only reverence its power.
The Creator has many references according to different languages on earth.
To the yorubas it is Olodumare
To the igbos it is CHINEKE
To the binis it is Osanobua
To the Ishans, it is Osanobua
To the Jews it is Hashem
To the Babylonians, it was Marduk
To the Romans, it was Jupiter
To the ancient Egyptian, it was Ra
To the Indians it was Brahma/Vishnu..

I have a lot of proofs. You have none. A meagre percentage of my proofs are on this thread. Please go through again with an open mind.

Yahweh is none of the listed.

Thank you.

sonmvayina:
I don't want to know him...

I only reverence my creator and it's not yahweh.

YHVH Me and YOD HEH VAH HEH...Which has to do with Gods power.
God is not a "thing" .just like CHINEKE in Igbo which means "the spirit that creates"...
Which is still about power...

Has your god any control over the nations? Can you prove it? It's not by force that Yahweh should be your God. But just know that the gods that didn't create the world shall be destroyed out of the world. There's only one Creator. His name is Yahweh. He has proven Himself to be the Creator.

sonmvayina:
I know..

Marduk is not yaweh.
Yaweh is one of the 70 sons of Enlil...


Marduk is Hashem..

You don't know Yahweh.

Nomercie:
That I will Bleep your Yahweh bah?

You're also fulfilling prophecies with your blasphemy. Keep it up!

Nomercie:
Take your storybook and shove it inside your anus,no one is interested in it.

Yes, it was already written that you'll say so!

This is a wonderful thread. I'll research deeper into this. I can see how the atheists have got nothing to say to refute the bold claims made on this thread. They were just perambulating.

sonmvayina:
How do you know those things where not written after the facts...?

The God of Cyrus was Marduk..which is also the God the Jews worship, but with a different name...He is also the same as Olodumare, Chineke, Osanobua, Abassi...etc. same God different nomenclature..

Everything I wrote up there were from historical records. Check the dates. All historians agree on these.

And no! Yahweh is not Marduk.

T9ksy:
The bolded portion above is the main reason why Ojukwu went to war. He , Ojukwu wants to go back to pre-jan 1966 status quo whilst Gowon and his Northern elite backers prefers the new unification regime as proposed and decreed by the late Ironsi.

That still makes Igbos the aggressors. What happened to diplomatic efforts?

Arda1000:
so as a leader Ojukwu would have been dining and dancing while his people are been massacred?

No one massacred his people. Igbos were the first to plan a coup.

Nomercie:
This story book again?

Story book you say? Why not educate yourself before it's too late?

Read this:

https://www.nairaland.com/8244487/why-everyone-everywhere-must-give