Courz: Please do. Your mind will be blown. You will now understand why the Bible says Satan transforms himself as an angel of Light and his followers do the same. The world is deep. There is a different world beyond what we see. P Diddy's arrest is just the tip but it reveals some of it. I am going to give you a tip : Beware of anyone or Religion or any organisation or Business that has Underground tunnels like P Diddy. They all fall into the same system of Satanism.
Diddy is indeed into some forms of occultism. There's more to be heard of him.
Does the JW too have some kinds of tunnel? Religious organizations who have tunnels keep their tunnels secret. How can we identify them in order to be wary of them as you advised.
occfx: Depending on the type of network you want. Simple repeaters can do the job like the picture below. However, if you are looking for extension from one point to another, just get ubiquity outdoor point to point.
Courz: It is not mere here say. It is a fact that only people with Spirit of discernment can see. Do some research on the Jehovah's Witness Cult from their founder, where he came from, who funded him. Make sure you find testimonies from members of these Cults that left JW. The inner Coven members of these Cults I mentioned who were victims of Child Sexual Abuse and Satanic Ritual Abuse exposed everything. I even have one story of a woman who was a victim of her Freemason Jehovah's Witness Father who sexually abused her and trafficked her to multiple different Freemason Men from the age of 3 years. I have pictures of her Father and her Grandfather dressed in Masonic regalia. Her father was a Jehovah's Witness Elder and at the same time a Freemason. A Jehovah's Witness once reached out to me to tell me about the Freemason side of Jehovah's Witnesses and what they did to his Mother before she died. There were a group of Freemasons in her congregation that were attacking her before she died.
Signs of Occultism are Child Sexual Abuse, Homosexuality mixed rituals and Satanic Ritual Abuse. All these Cults have these acts in common. Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholic church, Mormon, Scientology, Amish, etc. That's how you know who their Master is. Child Sexual Abuse and Satanic Ritual Abuse is their mode of worship in secret. You are hearing about P Diddy and his underground tunnels and the numerous nefarious activities he was involved in. These Coven members in Jehovah's Witnesses are involved in the same.
Do your research. Look for Survivors testimonies of Child Sexual Abuse and Satanic Ritual abuse. Jehovah's Witnesses get mentioned sometimes. If you find these testimonies, brace yourself because the details mentioned are usually Gruesome and are very hard to accept by the human mind. Google Jehovah's Witnesses and Child Sexual abuse. Some News stories that mention these cases also revealed Satanic Ritual Abuse and Child Sex Trafficking in JW in Court documents. So much has been revealed for years about The Jehovah's Witness Cult. Even Ex Satanists that have given their lives to Jesus exposed Jehovah's Witnesses.
To further expose their Freemason ties, Jehovah's Witnesses organisation called Watchtower Bible and Tract Society own another organisation called International Bible Students Association which was what they used to be called before changing to Jehovah's Witnesses. If you Google organisations owned by Jehovah's Witnesses, you will see it. International Bible Students are Freemasons since inception and they meet in Masonic Lodges to this day. Jehovah's Witnesses back in the day used to meet in Masonic Lodges. Then when they changed their name, they had their Kingdom hall. But their Kingdom hall is built the same way as a masonic lodge. So, if they own and Run another Cult that is Masonic, what does that tell you about them? They are also Masonic but in disguise. They exhibit their true selves as Masons in International Bible Students and also hide what they are under Jehovah's Witnesses organisation.
All of these I mentioned above is the reason why Jehovah's Witnesses are banned from Googling their Cult. They are only to read their website and publications and ignore any negative story revealed about them.
This is a truckload of potential exposure. I'll do my own research. I know the group is a cult but I've not been about to put my fingers on any of their nefarious activities. I'll definitely research them as advised.
AntiChristian: Jesus had no father but mother! Adam has no parents! Eve has no mother but was made from Adam!
So, how came He had no father? Have you ever seen anyone without father? Can such a person be called a human being? A human being is someone who has a human father and mother.
I don't run away! I just wish to move on as a i can't follow up on too many engagements here and there!
Okay. But please I need answers to a question I asked. Would you kindly go back and answer me?
Courz: He is not joking. The only people who can tell you the real truth about Jehovah's Witnesses are the Ex Members of which I am one. We know the Cult like the back of our hands, much more than Jehovah's Witnesses will ever know till their deaths.
In the Jehovah's Witness Cult, they have Past truths, Present truth and Future Truths all grouped together under Old Light and New Light.
Jehovah's Witnesses are brainwashed to absorb All manner of Lies under the Guise of Past Truth, Present Truth and Future Truths. This is just a clever way for a Very good Liar to rebrand Lies as acceptable by adding the word Truth. So, if it changes in the future but you then cleverly rebrand It as New Light or Present Truth, you have prepared your listeners to accept It without questioning. It is a form of Brainwashing. Mind Control. Jehovah's Witnesses is a Satanic Cult perfectly disguised as a Christian one (although, still looks Pseudo-Christian to people with Strong Spiritual discernment) to Deceive the gullible who don't know their Bible. That is why they are so confident to rebrand Lies as Old Light and New Light.
Jehovah's Witnesses is a Masonic Cult that is a blend of Judaism, a little dose of Christianity for image purposes to Lure the Gullible and some Occultic knowledge. Their Leaders and some of their members they call The Anointed are Freemasons and members of some other Cults like the Skull and Bones and Druids and Celts. These are the people that formulate their doctrines. Their beliefs/doctrines are from the Occult. The average Jehovah's Witness does not know this and is not allowed to know. Only the Hierarchy, those in various leadership positions in JW and those in these Cults mentioned above are aware of this.
This is serious my brother. The following quote from your post is a great indictment. Please do not allege these things except you can prove then beyond reasonable doubts:
"Jehovah's Witnesses is a Masonic Cult that is a blend of Judaism, a little dose of Christianity for image purposes to Lure the Gullible and some Occultic knowledge. Their Leaders and some of their members they call The Anointed are Freemasons and members of some other Cults like the Skull and Bones and Druids and Celts. "
achorladey: On Sunday they have a publication called watchtower study. It is actually a material their GODS of men housed in USA used to condition their brains to many lies and manipulations all these years. Changing what they call truth to past truth, present truth and future truth or past understanding, present understanding or future understanding.
The interesting aspects of this is some of what they teach and call others Christians liars for not teaching the same, when they revert to what other Christians teach they won't apologize for calling other Christians liars.
That's interesting.
Past Truth and Present Truth. Hope you're not joking?
achorladey: They have been conditioned, lied to and manipulated to believe that anyone who accepts Trinity is a false Christian. No matter how sound your defense is in the final analysis it is Trinity and to them it is false doctrine
They cannot feel sober reflection, sincerity because they believe they are high and mighty over every other Christians regarding the Bible and biblical discussions. You will see them saying a 6 years old will show you from the Bible that trinity is a false doctrine
Janosky: This kid you never used any examples of a scripture verse or chapter I cited and explained, to show or prove your point. You are WAILING about making shallow remarks driven by your IBERIBEISM.
Come Continue your WAILING
This kid,Ok nau.
GothamCities, your brain is peddling WEREY and IBERIBEISM. You sef talk say no be insults,not abusive. It's well.
The OP has done enough to explain things to you with Scriptures. If these ones here don't suffice, what will?
MindHacker9009: So how many people saw him assending into the clouds in his own town alone. Why could the whole world not see him when he was assending? If the whole world could not see him asseding why then will you be able to see him desending when you are in Nigeria?
Is there anywhere it was written that all eyes must see Him when He goes up in the clouds? He fulfills only what is written of Him.
achorladey: Gbam! Once they are caught up in their notorious acts and ways, the next step is to point fingers at others or drag others into their notorious mode of operation of abusing, insulting and labelling people with all sorts of name simply they don't accept what they called truth which are exposed as lies and manipulations packed into their brains by the now 11 Gods of men housed in USA.
FxMasterz come and see something
It's worrisome how someone would read the expositions by the OP on this thread and not have a sober reflection to reread the scriptures but instead would decide to quote unrelated scripture verses and issue curses words. It's really worrisome. The JWs are very insincere with themselves. The wisest thing to do is to go on a prolonged indepth study because even the scriptures you're quoting do not negate the scriptures, events and contexts presented by the OP which clearly shows Christ as Deity.
achorladey: One word they hate to be associated with is CULT
You go make dem vex well well. After their vexation, they will start comparing themselves with Jesus and his disciples that people call them CULTS too which shows they are the only true Christians
They jump on anything to play victim or persecution game. When they do it to others they pride in their self righteousness and in their beliefs of separating the weeds from wheat. Their lawlessness in realm of the Christian world knows no bound while hiding behind the support and redress of government court as a religious and charitable organisation
Lol.
It seems you know these people too well. As far as I'm concerned, they aren't Christians. Satan is just using them to block the way of salvation the sane way he's using Islam. Same method too. Give people half truth, then deceive them that they're the best. Block their senses from seeing any other revelation that exposes the nature of the half truth. Keep them forcefully within the fold so that they won't discover the real truth from outside the fold. This way, the people are held captives in their minds. Half truth is even more dangerous than lies. You'll think you're serving God without knowing you're wasting your time.
Janosky: MUMU post nah "upper cuts" to MUMU WAILING WAILER glued to IBERIBEISM.
Achorladey's abusive, insulting posts to JW's is "sharing the word of God? Which verse and chapter in your own Bible did Achorladey copy his abusive insulting posts your brain told you is the word of God? *Achorladey post on September 19 @1:05pm to JW's. "Your werey peddling brain"
This kid carry your IBERIBEISM komot from this forum. Read the screenshot before you komot.
Achorladey didn't abuse any of you. I have observed that whenever you abuse anyone, Achorladey would comment that you're peddling the object of your abuse. For example, if you call someone werey, Achorladey would not call you werey, but he'll say your brain is peddling werey. He's correct in that the werey you have called someone actually comes from your brains. So, the person is not werey but your brains are peddling werey by calling the person such. So, do not accuse him falsely.
He has been exposing you guys and showing that you guys are not of God, and I commend him for that.
achorladey: That's what a legalistic religious organisation does. They choose to want to look separate and different from others and then ended up being Pharisaical with their self righteousness setting standards they use to judge other Christians of which they cannot follow and expect other religious denominations to follow.
I'm sure that organization is a cult. One of the many tares the enemy has sown among the wheats.
achorladey: Those guys always feel the world revolves around being Jehovah's witnesses. They are proud and yet want others to be humble to listen to them. In their meetings at the kingdom halls they are constantly reminded to be humble 😂🤣😂🤣 you know the problem is equally from there.
When they come to platforms like this one not regulated or regimented by their now 11 GODS of men housed in USA we put them in their place and expose their wolves in sheep clothing tendencies as they go about lying and manipulating people in the name of they are the only performing performance religion doing God's will
Yeah, their pride is very noticable. I observed that they were even using curse words on someone who simply shared the Word of God according to his findings. Instead of meekly explaining their own views, they were abusing the OP. This actually gave them out as very carnal lots who know nothing about the gospel or of the love of Christ towards us.
Reflect7: So why did he ‘rise up’ or ‘ascend’ to heaven?
Is that spiritual realm up in the sky?
‘Spiritual realm’ suggests a different DIMENSION or PLANE of existence, meaning that you cannot physically fly to such a place. It has no physical location!
So how did ‘Jesus’ supposedly fly there in a physical body?
Yes, the heavenly realm is up above the sky. It is a spiritual realm with a physical location, just that ordinary eyes cannot see it.
Dexlomo: That is the starting point. If it chokes your balls, you are prone to headache. I understand the questions seem out of place but I remember a doctor mentioning it to me and it really helped. I used to use very tight pants because I use to have erections unnecessarily and felt that was a safe place to hide it from people noticing it. Then, we had concluded mine was a migraine situation until I moved to the UK for my Masters and had to complain of my everyday headache. In one of my discussion with the doctor, he asked about my underwear. He educated me and my incessant every morning headache disappeared.
AntiChristian: You need to admit you goofed and lied here!
Why did you avoid the question ?
He said by himself he can do nothing! What does this mean? Muhammad did many great miracles and you won't believe it. Google is your teacher please!
It means He did miracles through the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father and Son. Both the Father and Son manifest power through the Holy Ghost.
So, Google is the one that would tell us about the miracles of Mohammed while his slave cannot?
No one took it from him? And he put his face on the floor in Matthew 26:39 crying to God to save him oo! Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”
Same God he was depicted accusing on forsaking him! God never forsakes any of His loved one!
Yes, no one took it from Him. He laid it down by Himself. He was asking the Father to withdraw the commandment of laying it down if possible. God didn't withdraw the commandment because that was the only way mankind can be redeemed. Jesus had to go through it and lay it down.
Yeah, for a moment, while He carried the sins of the world upon Himself, God had to look away from Him, for God cannot behold sin. It irritates Him.
We also have a Prophecy that the Muslims will fight the Jews and defeat them as a sign of the end time!
Al-Bukhari (3593) and Muslim (2921) narrated from the hadith of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “The Jews will fight you and you will prevail over them, then a rock will say: ‘O Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.’”
In Saheeh Muslim (2922), it is narrated from the hadith of Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The Hour will not begin until the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims will kill them, until a Jew hides behind a rock or a tree, and the rock or tree will say: O Muslim, O slave of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Except the gharqad (a thorny tree), for it is one of the trees of the Jews.”
In some reports there is an indication that the fighting against the Jews that is mentioned in this hadith will occur at the end of time, when the Dajjal emerges and the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) descends and fights him.[/quote]But the defeat of the Jews will never happen. Lol. Go and write it down. It is the Word of the Almighty God. We'll see whose words will stand, whether that of God Almighty or that of Allah.
Then, the Jews are the ones to whom the promise of the Messiah was given. Why do Muslims want to defeat the same Jews who gave them the :prophets'? Lol.
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AntiChristian: I also don't have time. You are a liar if you can't show the evidences here. If i were to quote from Gospel of Barnabas here you will be the first to say it is not among the Gospels you acknowledge as part of your Bible! But you are the one quoting falsehood attributed to our Prophet in a fabricated narration that she killed a woman!
So, it was fabricated? Even the ones you call Sahih are fabricated too? It's alright.
He did all those miracles with prayer! Who was he praying to? His God! Jesus has a God who he confirms that is greater than him! He said it many times that he was sent i.e. he is a messenger! He even said he can of himself do nothing!
Is that what we're discussing or you want to digress? I only showed you that Jesus could help Himself. If He did all those miracles, the He can help Himself. Why didn't Mohammed pray and do such miracles too?
The father commanded him to die when He forbid killing already in the ten commandment? What a contradiction! How can salvation be in what has been forbidden?
Did He kill Himself? That's not even the discussion. I showed you that He laid down His life by Himself. No one took it from Him.
Which prophecy is being fulfilled? Yes, where is coronavirus now? Why is it not affecting us all anymore? Even Mpox the new one is on the decline!
I no dey follow conspiracy theories cos in the end it will be like the Corona and 5G ruse!
All these are simple conspiracy theories! I remember Netayanhu quoting 1 Samuel 15:3 for annihilating Palestinians!
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.
And this is what you guys are celebrating as Prophecies today!
Did you read what I posted before?
Let me give you a proof. The current nation of Israel cannot be removed anymore from their land even if the whole world gathers against them. That's biblical prophecy. All the Arab nations would keep attacking them and keep failing. That's prophecy too. Israel is a small nation but made mighty by the Word of God that established it. If Israel ceases to be a nation at anytime in the future, then the Bible is not the Word of God.
Dexlomo: You don't see the crazy trends in our dressing right? Complex is a big issue particularly among the younger ones. Besides, the big bodied sized ones in order to avoid body shaming wear tight clothes to make them look slim/fit not knowing the consequences.
But the discourse was about boxers bro. Underwears.
Steep: Any gospel different from what Paul and the other apostles teach is heresy.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
of course Paul followed Christ and he is a role model to every believer. @ bolded this is false, Paul did not seek permission from anybody.
Galatians 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
1:18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.
So, you and who are arguing about that?
I proud to be a Pauline Christian, Paul preached nothing but Christ and him crucified. Christianity is basically Pauline. Ecclesiastical order that cannot remove the beam from their eyes. Placing tithing as one of the orthodox Christian doctrine exposed their in competence. I believe in tithing, but it is not part of the fundamental Christian teachings. There are churches that do not tithe it doesn't make them heretical, but rejection of the inerrancy of scripture of which the letters of Paul and Peter is concerned is plainly an heresy.
So, when did I tell.you I'm not proud to be a Pauline?
Dexlomo: Do you know inappropriate pants, briefs, boxers, trousers is one of the major reasons for headache in men? Not knowing the appropriate one to wear could stress your balls and lead to headache.
But which grown up man would go and buy something uncomfortable for himself to wear?
AntiChristian: You are the proven liar here with the claim that Muhammad married a 4 year old! This is just one of your lies!
Apologies as they had a different specie of Holy Spirit from the one you have today! Despite the Holy Spirit's presence in them they still make those mistakes! Just as you too are telling lies with your acclaimed Holy Spirit!
If it is with you then you should pray for death to come so that you can enter it sooner! May you not enter hell at last!
Different situations calls for different rulings! Holy Spirit will never explain this to you! You need to learn! But a mind that has been enclosed and programmed to believe lies will never ponder! Jesus was asked of the hour and he didn't know it! Ask him now if he knows it? The people who are to be killed are those who hurt the Muslims! There are many instances, settings and context which all you closed minded Christians would never calmly learn! And it will end up turning you to a liar!
She wasn't married at 4! And what's wrong with his consummation at 9years? How is that your problem? Was Yahweh shameless when similar kids were shared to him and his warriors in Numbers 31? Double-face hypocrites! Tell us the ages of the virgins spared in Numbers 31:17-18?
That's why you are a disbeliever! Jesus was never mentioned anywhere by name in your Old testament! No one can read the Old Testament and have any idea about Jesus! Is it not the same OT Jews use today that they still curse Jesus and his mum?
Yeah, Yahweh was a Terrorist too before He repented when Jesus came! This is another lie!It is proven that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) forbade the killing of women. Abu Dawud (2669) narrated that Rabah ibn Rabi‘ said: We were with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) on a campaign, and he saw the people gathered around something. He sent a man to find out what they were looking at, and he came back and told him that it was a woman who had been killed. He said: “Such a one could not have been a fighter.” Khalid ibn al-Walid was leading the vanguard of the army, so he sent a man to him and said: “Tell Khalid: Do not kill any woman or hired worker.”
Show us the evidences of your claims! I have been quoting whatever i say in the Bible! You are simply a liar! Show us the context of the incidence with a reputable reference not just one tales by moonlight story!
Where's 1948 written? So na the same Israeli Jews that abhors Christ and Christians will be your sign? God of Israel indeed!
Which event happened exactly and where is written? Show us the script Israel is following?
Corona virus and 5G lies!
Which troubled times is Israel in? How many Israeli has died in the last one year? Is Palestine not in a precarious situation than them? How is this making any sense to you?
It's none of my business what you believe in. And you shouldn't be bordered by mine too! You will be chanting your Haleluyah that remains from earth when you get to heaven right? Sorry! Enough with your lies! I see no Holy Spirit in you! Just the same devilish hate-filled lies being peddle by almost every average Christian this days! I didn't expect you to even know better! You are all same!
Jesus can't even save himself not to talk of you! And Muhammad was sent to bring us closer to Allah! He is not our savior like you do Jesus! Too many errors in just one person!
I've told you the truth. I don't have the time to be arguing with you. Everything I said about Mohammed is in your books. They're things everyone knows. So, your rebuttals don't count.
Did Jesus raise the dead? Yes He did. Did He heal the sick, yes He did? How come He couldn't save Himself? He Himself provided answers before He went to the cross.
"No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.” John 10:18.
You said Coronavirus lies? Demons must be deceiving you. Check out historical records dear for all prophecies fulfilled. Except the devil is deceiving you, the literal fulfillment of these prophecies should tell you something.
At least you read the prophecies on the thread about Israel. It's been written about 3,000 years before 1948. and is now a fulfilled Bible Prophecy. Did you read where God said He would give an ensign to the Nations and then, they'll facilitate the return of the Jews to their land? Did you notice that it was the United Nations that fulfilled that prophecy with stunning accuracy? Did you notice that Israel was a nation born in 1 day after the Holocaust?
Did you notice that the Holocaust was prophesied too in scripture, and scriptures say it is the birth pangs that would cause a nation to be born, and that as soon as "Zion travails, it brought fought a male child; a nation would be born in one day." It happened literally to the letter.
I know Satan will not allow you see but it you live yourself, you'll force yourself to see. I can only tell you the truth. You already have plenty of information and opportunities. You would not have any excuse before God.
Steep: 🤦 Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Since when did the Christian faith become subjective? You are a kid, You have so far failed all the standards you mentioned of the things that makes heresy yet you are doubling down, I just showed you that the doctrine of the inerrancy of the Pauline epistles just like others is a universal Christian belief endorsed by Peter, yet you continue to argue blindly. Not even heretical groups like the jehovah witness and Mormons would ever dare to dispute this, not the Roman catholic church, angeliican, not the orthodox, penticostal and evangelicals, or baptist, any other protestant group, only. You are kid, the irony about it you telling someone else he is not mature.
So, you're the one Lord. Isn't it? I don't know why you would sit down there and think that you are the most perfect Christian who should be calling everyone to order.is it not already obvious that you're s kid?
Maybe you don't know that they too have the right to call you an heretic. They believe you're wrong the same way you believe they're wrong it's fruitless to explain things to you. It's actually a waste of time.
So, Paul's doctrine is a universal Christian belief because you said? Grow up now
If you think you should be the one to be calling out the anti Pauls, they too can call you out for taking the words of Paul above the words of Christ according to them.
I beginning to think you're the creator of this thread, and you're using this baseless arguments to bounce up your thread.
Steep: Mr matured baby, do you even see your own hypocrisy, how can you say they are not umpire? Why are they writing this letter if they are not acting as umpire? There is no rigmaroling here, shielding some heresies why condemning others is hypocritical and unbecoming for a Christian body. You have returned back to having personal doctrine even when scripture is clear, but condemn another for doing the same.
Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. A body that cannot remove the log in its eye cannot remove the speck in another's eyes.
Since you even said they should condemn infant baptism and other things, I already know that you cannot understand anything I say. I'm 100% sure you have never been in any leadership position especially in a Christian organization. There's no leader who would speak the way you did.
They're not umpires over people's faith. I repeat. Matters of faith are different from matters of individual beliefs. This people are telling Damina not to use his individual belief to corrupt the minds of others. They're not addressing denominational beliefs such as Paul or no Paul. If Damina had kept the heresies to himself, no one will bother. But to teach others his own new and personal heresies, he should be called to order!
Myrrhis: For a supposed minister of the gospel, there is something wrong with that conversation.
He took advantage of those teenagers' minds.
You're right.
I later remembered he mentioned they were discussing about hygiene for reproductive health. No male doesn't know what boxers to wear. You don't need to be talking to anyone about size or girth. They're not kids. The comment was indeed off board. I had to delete my earlier mention.