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AntiChristian:
He did! Are you same as OP?

No, I'm not OP.

Just a curious observer.
But it is not untrue that wife beating is permitted in Islam. I have witnessed a situation in Ilorin where a father in-law knelt his son's wife on the streets and starting whipping her seriously while kneeling down in the hot sand.

AntiChristian:
He referenced the Hadith and lied that the Prophet hit his wife!

Yeah, I remember that I read Mohammed hitting his wife on the chest.

You mean he inserted that into the hadith?

He didn't dwell mohammed hitting his wife actually. He didn't reference it in his post.

But it is not untrue that wife beating is permitted in Islam. I have witnessed a situation in Ilorin where a father in-law knelt his son's wife on the streets and starting whipping her seriously while kneeling down in the hot sand.

AntiChristian:
I have shown him one of the hadith he lied about! Let him defend one of his lies before i move to the next!

Fingers crossed.

Do.you mean he edited an hadith he posted?

JimmySwaggart:
Interesting. Wow

How come you be Jimmy Swaggart?

sonmvayina:
Believe what you like..

The truth is the truth.....whatever you believe does not change it...

I hope you know that for yourself and for your own good.

AntiChristian:
Use your glasses or use your eye drop!

Heed your own advice!

sonmvayina:
Believe what you will..

I don't have the the time to spoon feed any adult.

When you grow up you will know..

Spoon-feed who? Grow up to what exactly?

You're telling me Marduk is YHWH just because YHWH helped Cyrus and you still have the guts to be telling me to grow up?

Do you actually listen to yourself? I can prove to you from the Bible itself that Ezra didn't write the Torah and that YHWH is not Marduk. You're actually the one who should grow up.

That's the problem you get when you swallow all the garbages you find online without doing your own research!

sonmvayina:
You are actually dumb..

YHWH is the who held Cyrus hand to free all his captives.
The cylinder seal is saying it was Marduk who told him to enter into Babylonian to free everyone...
So Marduk = YHWH = creator of the universe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIsx_tb-DFk?si=kxMnAKI-kvv-3UVy

You're really dumb! Too dumb for that matter!

Why Cyrus might think it was Marduk that was helping him, it was actually YHWH. Cyrus didn't know YHWH. 150yrs before Cyrus was born, YHWH already foretold about Cyrus.

Isaiah 45:4

"For the sake of my servant Jacob and Israel my chosen, I call you by your name, giving you a title, though you do not know me."

It is the height of dumbness to think that since YHWH helped Cyrus, and Cyrus worshipped Marduk, hence YHWH is Marduk. Very unintelligent conclusion.

karfe:
You are correct. They are known as Commonwealth realms. They always have the option of becoming republics.

Commonwealth realms?

Hmmm.

Topman7:
IT IS LIKE THAT BECAUSE BRITISH COLONIALISM IN COUNTRIES WITH SUBSTANTIAL WHITE SETTLEMENT WAS A VERY DIFFERENT FORM OF COLONIALISM.

IT WAS NOT BASED ON RAW EXPLOITATION AND LOOTING OF THE COUNTRY AS WAS THE CASE WITH COLONIES WITHOUT WHITE SETTLEMENT.

SO IN PLACES LIKE SOUTH AFRICA, CANADA, AUSTRALIA ETC, EXPORT PROCEEDS FROM NATURAL RESOURCES WERE REINVESTED IN DEVELOPING THE COUNTRIES.

IN PLACES LIKE NIGERIA, GHANA, CONGO ETC, IT WAS JUST PURE LOOTING OF RESOURCES AND BUILDING NOTHING.

THAT IS WHY NIGERIA WAS A BIG FAT FCKING BUSH AT INDEPENDENCE, WHILE AUSTRALIA, CANADA, SA AND CO WERE ALREADY WELL DEVELOPED LONG BEFORE THEY GOT INDEPENDENCE.

I like your perspective.

AntiChristian:
All these people with lies sha! Na lie go kill una!

The first hadith mentioned is that which was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her), who said:

When it was my night when the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was with me, he came in and took off his cloak, took off his shoes and put them by his feet, spread the edge of his waist wrapper on his bed and lay down. He waited until he thought that I had gone to sleep, then he picked up his cloak slowly, put on his shoes slowly, opened the door slowly, and went out, then he closed it slowly. I put my chemise over my head and veiled myself, and wrapped my waist wrapper around me, then I set out following him, until he reached al-Baqee‘ where he stood for a long time, then he raised his hands three times. Then he set off, so I set off, then he hastened, so I hastened, then he jogged, so I jogged, then he ran so I ran, then I reached home before him and went in. No sooner had I laid down but he came in and said: “What is the matter, O ‘Aa’ishah? Why are you out of breath?” I said: It is nothing. He said: “Either you tell me or the Subtle One, the All-Aware will tell me.” I said: O Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be sacrificed for you! And I told him. He said: “So you were the person that I saw in front of me?” I said: Yes. He gave me a painful shove on the chest, then he said: “Did you think that Allah and His Messenger would be unjust to you?” She said: Whatever the people conceal, Allah knows it; yes. He said: “Jibreel came to me when you saw. He called me but he concealed it from you, and I answered him but I concealed it from you. He would not enter upon you when you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep and I did not want to wake you up, and I was afraid that you might be frightened. He said: “Your Lord is commanding you to go to the people of al-Baqee’ and pray for forgiveness for them.” I said: What should I say to them, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “Say: Peace be upon the people of these abodes, believers and Muslims. May Allah have mercy on those of us who have gone on before and those who come later, and we will – if Allah wills – join you soon.”

Narrated by Muslim, 974

Is this how to beat a woman?

I don't even need to check anything else!
Your lies will bury you one day!

Is the OP the one telling lies or the hadith he quoted from? I don't understand your accusations of lies.

sonmvayina:
Are you that dumb..?

I am saying that the Jews worship the creator of heaven who is represented by the 4 letters YHWH. Who is also Marduk in the Babylonian religion...

That was the purpose of the screen shot.

For that of the Torah, study real history...not the propaganda they wrote..

I have studied real history and also have my good judgments. Not conspiracy theories. You must be the one who is dumb. How does the screenshot you posted prove that the God the Israelites worship is the same as Marduk of the Babylonians?

Ibechris2:
As of 2024, these counties below are still under British influence till date.
Antigua and Barbuda, Australia, The Bahamas, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu.

Canada too?

Corporate2020:
These are just formalities

You think so?

sonmvayina:
I am talking about real history...



Not the propaganda they wrote..

There is a big difference.

Well you only need to read about Cyrus the great.
And what Isaiah says in Isaiah 45:1-7

This is what is written in Cyrus cylindrical seal. I have screen shot it for you.

Compare to what is written in Isaiah 45:1-7

See if you can make the connection..

See also screen shot of Isaiah 45:1-7

Especially verse 1

Nothing in the screenshots suggests that Ezra wrote the Torah or that the God of Israel is Marduk.

You might be surprised to learn that Australia's independence from Britain is not as clear-cut as you think.

The Shocking Facts:

1. Constitutional Monarchy: Australia recognizes the British monarchs (currently King Charles III) as its head of state. For example, king Charles III of England is Australia's current head of state.

2. Limited Legislative Power: Although Australia has legislative independence, the British monarch still holds significant symbolic power. The British monarchs have a say in Australia's legislations.

3. Royal Assent: Bills passed by the Australian Parliament technically require royal assent, albeit a formality. That is to say, the King of England must consent to a bill passed in Australian Parliaments before it can become law.

4. Appeals to the UK's Privy Council: In rare cases, Australian courts can still appeal to the UK's Privy Council.

The British still have a lot of control over Australia. Australia is not fully independent. Many Australians are advocating for a republic, seeking complete separation from the British monarchy.

The kings and queens of England actually double as the rulers of Australia.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia

sonmvayina:
Ezra was the one who created Judaism as the national religion of the Israelites.
He wrote the Torah from the priestly sources....
When they came out from the Babylonians exile..

According to Isaiah, they did not even know who the real God was.
That was why God(Marduk )used Nebuchadnezzar to bring every one to Babylon so they can learn about him.
It was God(Marduk) who used Cyrus to send everyone back to their respective lands.
Since Ezra was knowledgeable in the laws of God, he was given all the required assistance to write it and take it along to teach his people..

Google Cyrus or Cyrus cylindrical seal....
See also Isaiah 45:1-7

This is a wrong position. Even while in Babylon, we know of Daniel and several other Jews who actually know God. How many years did they spend in Babylon for them to have forgotten who God was? Only 70yrs. Let's not forget that the Israelites actually have a tradition of instructing their kids from youth.

There are books of the law in existence before Ezra. Ezra might have created Judahism, or preferably, let's say Ezra organized the Jewish religion since the religion had neither name nor organization before Ezra. But, it is evident from Scriptures that the Israelites already had a religion before Ezra. The religion even had a book. Ezra may copy the book for the sake of its preservation. Ezra cannot be said to be the writer of the Torah.

I also disagree with you that God is Marduk.

sonmvayina:
Yahweh is the name of one of the 70 sons of Enlil...married to Asherah.
The Jews worship the creator of the universe and it's name is not Yahweh.
YHWH is does not mean Yahweh..it means YOD HEH WEH HEH...it means "lord most high"..
Not a proper name. There is so much confusion concerning this things..because most people think Moses wrote the Torah, No, Moses did not write the Torah, it was written by Ezra when they returned from the Babylonian exile...so most of the information in it where adapted from Babylonian myths.
So many misinformation out there. You have to really look for the information if you so desire it..

YHWH is not voiced. The English translators may be wrong, so for now I'll agree with you until I find your position to be wrong.

The story about Ezra writing the Torah is a conspiracy theory at best. The BOOK OF THE LAW existed before Ezra. There are so many references to it in the Bible ever before Ezra was born.

God, be merciful on the Muslims and open their eyes.

Maximus692:
So where is the evidence that you are not one of the WORKERS OF INIQUITY?

Muslims have high regard for Jesus and they believe he is God's sent just as those Jesus prayed for {John 17:8-9} so calling Jesus Lord! Lord! doesn't make you special in any way than they are. Matthew 7:21

So what is the WILL of God that really matters?

We have a personal relationship with Jesus.

I pray they listen.

stuffs2002:
Showing care to IIGB0S is like showing care to a snake. They are not capable of love. A snake is created to hate and hate only. I will strike you at it's first opportunity

Let us not make this a general conclusion. They lost a lot of loved ones, their bitterness is understandable. Anyone who has lost a loved one would be bitter and become the enemy of the person who caused the loss. It doesn't even matter whether the person was guilty or not. As long as he caused the loss of that loved one, he instantly becomes an enemy. That's the situation with the Igbos. Let's embrace them in love. Love can conquer hate.

BigYash:
Them the so called grandpa should not complain of the money he spent on the kids,since the kids doesn't belong to him alone. The so called grandpa telling him to pay for taking care of his grandkids show the kind of greedy and stupid home or family op married from. Make una dey run deep check before una marry ,una go say no. See the home of devils you married from now.. I pray your kids doesn't end up with the kind of mind their grandpa and mother possess.

What if the grandpa just said that as a tactic to keep the children with himself knowing fully well that the kids will suffer if they're with the OP. I'm not saying OP would make the kids suffer, but you know the grandpa knows the OP better than us.

stuffs2002:
IIGB0S are the ones refusing to integrate into the rest of the country.

You're right.

Ojukwu was given a state burial as a way to let them know that the past is past. His wife has been given ambassadorial appointments and is now even a Minister to show that the Nigerian state is welcoming them with open arms.

My message of unity is essentially to them. I pray they listen.

Michael547:
Where does the Bible teach that pastors should not sell services or goods to support themselves just like their members?

The Bible does not teach that pastors should sell or not sell goods and services. That's why there are both full time and part time pastors. The OP is talking about full time pastors as he never indicated that the pastors he talked about have side businesses. Hence, the response to him is justifiably in reference to full time pastors.

stuffs2002:
E be like say you no know Igbos ooo

Igbos will never accept they were at fault and the cause of all the bloodshed. Igbos would always claim victims even if killed an entire village.

After the bloody ethnic cleansing carried out by the Igbo officers of the January 1966 coup. Many Igbos still tried to convince people that the Igbos were the victims of that bloody and tribal coup

Lol.

We should all forget the past and unite together to move the country forward.

OT2024:
Attention: Pastor EA Adeboye,
G.O RCCG
Lagos

Dear Sir,

Taking Church Estate as Personal

Greetings to you, sir. I feel compelled to write this message to you as the Spirit directs me.


I will like to refer to this:

OPEN HEAVENS 2024 DEVOTIONAL

On Wednesday, SEP 11, 2024, with the Topic: RECEIVING PROPHECIES, you, among other things stated:


....When God tells me something unbelievable, I immediately begin to repeat it to those He permits me to share it with. I don’t give room for my human mind to process it and express doubts. I confess the prophecy repeatedly so that it becomes real to me. When God told me that He would build me a city, I could not even afford to build a small house, but I announced it to everyone who cared to hear. Today, He has fulfilled that prophecy. When He showed me trailers bringing in cows to feed the crowds that will be attending our programmes...

By this, sir, you were stating that the RCCG camp which has grown to the size of a city is what God promised you. The mixture in the message is claiming ownership of the 'city'.

This same claim has been made in other fora. I believe the claim is not entirely true. The RCCG camp belongs to the RCCG, which in turn belongs to Christ. No man should say it as if it is a personal estate or inheritance.

I believe there are other issues I will like to discuss or pass across to you, sir, but those, I will shelve for now.

Thank you.

I don't think that's what he meant. God built a city for his ministry, which is the RCCG. It doesn't mean the city is his personal property.

sonmvayina:
You are not following..

The God the Jews worship is not called yaweh. They don't call it that because the name Yahweh belongs to one of the 70 sons of Enlil who where the kings ruling the 70 kingdoms in Deuteronomy 10:1-32.
The Jews use the name Hashem.
Do you understand now?

I've seen them using the name Hashen. There are Hebrew songs I know that also mention the name Hashem but Hashem is not found in the Torah.

Yahweh is an unspoken name of the God of the Jews. For reverence, they do not voice the name. They use Hashem instead.

Yahweh has no father actually.

sonmvayina:
I believe you...

Yahweh is none of the listed...

Yahweh is one of the 70 sons of Enlil.

The listed are all different name for the creator in different languages...just like an English man will say spoon while a yoruba man will say sibi....
They both represent the same thing in different languages...
Do you understand?

The Creator has no father. If He has a father, He would not be the Creator.

chidifrank:
Show me a passage in the Bible that says pastors work is spiritual and members work is physical. You don't even know what spirituality is and you just writing all these rubbish sorry to say the least. Many so called pastors have jobs and works aside the church. Even those that don't have job should go and find a job and work except for those living in the church with no home nor jobs aside in the church.
Any man that doesn't live in the church should go and get a job . Only those who live in church with no home elsewhere are allowed to be given something financially as assist from the members and its voluntarily.

Your post did not make reference to pastors that have side jobs. You said Pastors. So, we can only discuss Pastors, and not Pastors who have career jobs!

1 Corinthians 9:11

"If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you?"

Bobodee09:
Firstly people need to know isreal is not a Christian nation..

My opinion about WAR remains the same, it is a needless madness like my father will always say.
War never achieve anything, life will be lost and property destroyed for nothing.

If you believe/claim hezebollah ,hamas etc are Muslim terrorists attacking isreal cos is a Christian nation then you need to do some reading about isreal.

Isreal isn't a Christians nation, infact they dont like Christians. When my dad went to isreal in 2009 on pilgrimage he was told by an isrealite that black people are foolish for wasting money coming to isreal every year to see Jesus tomb.
He got to know they don't even rate or believe in Jesus christ and we will be shouting God of isreal.

This War isn't a religious war, so it make no sense trying to paint it a Muslims vs Christians War.

This nation citizens till end of time will continously live constant in fear of being attacked at anytime so you has a neutral why not preach peace instead of taking side.

I dont take side during War....no matter who throw the first punch let always preaches peace to both sides.


We are humans first before any religion or tribe, for humanity sake don't support hamas or isreal during this madness, preach peace.

When you read from this thread, you'll understand:
https://www.nairaland.com/8244487/why-everyone-everywhere-must-give