₦airaland Forum

abdulwastecx:
You are absolutely right about the statement above....

People get away with lots of poor construction when using reinforced concrete because moment/force can easily be transfer, the span of the members are not that large, structural configuration not that critical but when it comes to steel structures, any poor handling of materials, lack of proper engineering judgement of type of connection, poor assumptions of quality of materials will have serious detrimental effects.

The church structure failure may be due to poor choice of section( may be instead of using equal angle the engineer decide to use Hollow section ), assuming higher steel grade than the one use for the structures, undervalue of the intended dead load of the structure, undervalued of the prevailing life load (expecially wind load), not taking into consideration the vibration due to Christian shouting and dancing inside the auditorium....

So many factors can go wrong in such a situation, that is why even the best and most experienced structural engineers have problem with steel design in this our clime

I'm sorry to play the devils advocate but we should also accept that structures fail due to unknown reasons, especially in a case like this where the local professionals are still not adept at steel structures. all i can say is let there be an immediate investigation, i like what you said about vibrations originating from sources such as from music and dancing during worship. i once read half way through a book titled"why structures fail"and i realised that most modern structural failures are from steel structures especially steel roofs regardless of the fame or nationality of the designers and constructors.

erico2k2:
TRUST is a big thing. In the west I do not think they have trust either however what they do have is re assurance,The fact you can get your money back if something goes wrong is waht keeps them going.I always buy my flight tkt with credit cards that way if something goes wrong I get my money back.I don't even need to go to court.If I pay for that crane and the coy goes burst without delivering,I'm covered.
Now in that pic up there, the only thing missing would be the money factor to hire that big crane up there.I don't have a clue to how much it would cost to rent one for the day.

if you buy that Crane in Nigeria online and they failed to deliver, you won't do squat.

lastpage:
I agree with you!
I was just hoping my post can "start a discussion" on it, my post can not claim to have analysed the entire problem. Its really very deep, as you said.

TRUST is a major issue in business ...and not just in Nigeria alone though we seem to take it to another "brazen level".
I actually dont relate with anyone, based on absolute trust....... l just take "precautions"!

But if they can overcome such 'trust-issues' in the foreign countries, using "proper documentation, legally-binding contracts and common sense", we too can minimize such risks to a manageable level.




Lastpage!

as far as the justice system is messed up,proper documentation, legally binding contracts and common sense cannot be enforced. the farmer that is owing me 50k for more than ten years and the bank MDs that failed the banks i bought stocks in,are all moving freely because of that.

lastpage:
Oga Fastshipping,

It is not that we dont have the "ideas" in Nigeria but we lack the Capacity!
"Capacity" in terms of financial power: The articulated Mixer and the projection crane costs close to a million Dollars each. Only a few people have that kind of money (close to a Billion Naira!) and the few that have it, usually dont invest it in such solid business due to "How they came about the money and ofcourse, lack of business sense". They would rather buy a 'Money-spraying machine" to impress their poor neighbours!

But one major factor that cuts across the whole economy, that is hindering our development is the "lack-of,..... or epileptic power supply".
No country can make progress, if its electricity is not stable.
All "ideas" would finally 'die or become too expensive to implement', in an environment where Power Supply is like ours in Nigeria.

You need to see how Nigerians progress, when they leave Nigeria's shores, to be convinced that we are "naturally brilliant people" (though some decide to use their brilliance in nefarious activities, which is wrong!) and all we need is just the right environment, which some foreign climes give those Nigerians.

May be we can start small, foe example, if @Abdulwastecx is good in construction, he can partner with @Fastshipping who has the "Dollars" and @Lastpage can be the office Cleaner and Security gateman such that the synergy between a few people can achieve the level of resources which one single investor cannot achieve?

I just hope the stinking-rich in our society will have the gumption to put their money into productive areas that add value into society, instead of laundering it into a foreign account in Switzerland (l hear Nigeria MUST PAY the Swiss about $75Million, to retrieve Abachas $400Million, exclusive of legal fees.... and that is just one man's single loot!) or investing it in foreign economy (I hear that former Senate president David Mark owns the best and biggest Hotel in Ireland, and that is just one man's invested loot).

The level of misplaced priority in this country is mind-boggling and mind-numbing.

Hopefully, we will get there before the second coming of Cheesux.





Lastpage!

if you can't trust your own blood brother to supervise your ten million naira bungalow without stealing from you,how then can you go into a million dollar partnership with an outsider? what you raised is one of the reasons the Nigerian economy can never industrialize,it's actually more deeper rooted than you make it sound.

Codeman01:
He actually charge me 50k for it

i sincerely think that was money well spent,what's the size of the plot of land.

Codeman01:
Plan for my proposed 4 bedroom ensuite plan

buy the architect a beer, he did a nice work.

this is not journalism, you can't print things like these without evidence.

silverspringle:
lolz...i dont work in the bank

ha ha,please tell me na.

silverspringle:
You may be surpise to know that single girls are more responsible than married women. Same with single guys and married guys just that Nigerian Society naturally sees a married woman as a saint buh then, one thing about the truth is that you cant hide it for so long. Come to my office, you will see how married women sleep around without any remorse. Sometimes, they would want to drag a guy with u, u will be imagining the type of men that get married to this women. buh thats none of my biz

please, where do you work?

Saintp:
How has PMB drastically cut the current extravagant cost of governance? Has he cut his feeding budget from billions to millions? what bill has he sent to the NA to force a drastic cut in allowances and waste on govt at all levels?

You can't just start taking loans that would affect our unborn children just yet without first doing an in-house sanitization of the system. Let us see a drastic change in cost of maintaining this govt and we can be rest assured that it wouldn't be a waste.
As it stands now, there is no difference between the waste of last govt and this one. The extravagant system he inherited is still in place.

the personal feeding allowance of gej last budget was 500million and gmb increased it to 1.75billion, the vp extension to the aso rock clinic costs more than the entire budget for the teaching hospitals in the country, the vp library purchase of books costs more than the budget for the purchase of books for the entire libraries in our federal universities. the presidential article of the 2016 budget was so inflated that it would make you shed tears of blood. you can dig up the old threads here on nairaland.

Peroti:
Was he not the same man that allowed military men to kill peaceful protesters last year December?
OMG!

Come 2017..We will correct this mistake.

that incident is the no 1 reason people have sworn not to vote him in for a second tenure.

all these things would turn around to hunt obiano in the next general election. he was the first governor to visit buhari after the election and has been kissing his ass with many accusing him of planning to dump apga for apc after the next governorship election. soludo might be the next governor of anambra.

echelons:
The Chairman of Board of Ntel is Gen. TY Danjuma and that says a lot.

It's all about government officials, their cabals and their companies.

thank you for exposing that.

SycophanticGoat:
With style or he's now a full blown waiver? When people (Shi'ites and IPOB) were massacred by NA, when Buhari disobeyed Court orders, when Buhari started increasing prices of one thing or another, when Buhari was goofing here and there, when he took more than 6months to select cabinet members and even ensured his nepotism status comes to play, when Buhari's men were characterized with trial and error, and policy summasult, when Buhari was shielding criminals in his cabinet, he and his ilks were busy hailing Buhari. Now, just because NCC want to increase ordinary data, he's wailing more than the wailers?

don't worry,i can boldly tell you that they're planning more hardships, toll gates loading.. Nigerians deserve the type of leaders they get.

SycophanticGoat:
Mr man, stop wailing and shout Sai Barbarian for me...

he's already wailing with style.

only the strong and those filled with grace or both would survive this this buhari regime. in God i trust.

i have concluded that migrating out of Nigeria is the best decision right now because there's no hope that things would be better before 2019 or beyond.

crosbreaka:
Motherfvcker why doesn't the midget declare Sunni Wahhabi Izala aka JIBWIS an insurgent group? Look at their name. It sounds very threatening (jama'atu izalatul bida wa iqamat al Sunnah). It means "congress for the elimination of sinful practices and upholding the Sunnah".

those izala guys are the real terrorists. i heard buhari is a member but i don't know how true it is.

JosephCudjoe:
Lol where did u get ur statistics from...ow where u able to get info dat the tens of thousands of university abroad are not offering geog. as a course. D top 10 university in d world still offer geog as a course

it's left for him to check and confirm for himself. most universities worldwide have changed their geography departments to things like environmental management, environmental science, geographic information system/geo Informaticsetc. even Nigerian universities now call it things like geography and planning or any other thing all in a bid to make the course marketable to potential students and employers. believe all na scam.

djlaqua91:
If I knack you kondo for head!!!!

maka gini?(because of what?)

JosephCudjoe:
Nd dz is a complete disaster for Nigeria. Obviously all d post av seen so far was based out of ignorance. Now Geog and URP are two different things. Geog is wider dan urp. What is d future of d Nigeria environment and its resources if geog is scrapped out of d system. Most courses on environment if not all, climate change amg odas are built on the knowledge of geog or on d course geog. Now if she chooses geog(grads wit a good grade) and plans her career well..she has job opportunities from the United Nations, Oil companies, Teaching hospitals(medical geog), Research institutes wich includes universities, places lyk IITA,FRIN,NESREA, NOSDRA(if she does msc in GIS)..there r a lot wich i cant just list. And even tho i av seen geographers in d aviation industry, banks,airpots, Nimet, and dz country economy is flexible to any discipline.....all she needs its a good grade at least a 2:1. And she will have more opportunities dan URP. IN conclusion if neither course is her dream...she should go for Geography. Its far better dan URP if both are not r dream profession.

if you check online, you would realise most universities in Nigeria and abroad don't offer geography anymore. if he wants to work in environment, let him study exactly that thus,urp,civil engineering, landscape architecture, gis or any other aspect he is interested, geography is a Jack of all, master of none which is why it's not a professional course.urp is a far better option.

Kennydoc:
Are my people too dumb to realise that this is a flood prone area? Tụfịakwa!

urban planning have demarcated the flood plains before allocating the land. flooding is not experienced there and the fertile flood plains used for vegetable farming year round.

ademasta:
Please help, my brother needs to choose a career path between Geography and Urban&Regional Planning.

What are the prospects in each, career challenges, professionalism etc.

He needs this info to take a decision before 10am today.
Thanks

the clear winner is urban and regional planning because it's a professional course especially if he ever ventures abroad to study and work, geography in Nigerian schools is a complete waste of time and money.even secondary schools are retrenching geography teachers as they stop the teaching of the subject.

IkpuMmadu:
Govt shoukd go and bulldoze lekki that was built on reserved marshland and water body. Govt shoukd go and bulldoze eko city that is been built on explained and sand filled lands before they can do this.


As of erosion and flooding...Lagos tops it then followed by ogun..

Don't cry for us Igbo...cry for the laud back Ibadan ,akure and okitipupa

erosion and flooding is not a problem at akpaka,i have worked there severally, the ground there is extremely rocky and strong all the way to nkwelle and nsugbe.

eyeview:
I think the purpose of this thread is to showcase the level of development made purely by private and individual initiative,without govt support.
This is common in igbo residential areas,they have a way of advancing their course without waiting for any govt purse.
What i see people commenting here is mostly borne out of envy and bigotry than commendation.
Pity.

God bless you my dear,i will use myself as an example, i dropped out of day school in ss1 to aid my ailing father in his business,traveling by night buses to and from Lagos at the age of fourteen, continued by night school, went to the university and stayed back in the north for years after service to make use of the opportunities there with a few igbo colleagues while the others ran back to the south, calling us money mongers. l lived a glamourless and frugal life in order to save and invest and yet once i bought an empty of land with a multimillion side business,they started talking about igbo ritualists in hand with some efulefu igbos.the type of girls that goes for youth service and ends up pregnant for a married Hausa man.

fkdmods:
I wonder why you guys just love to ignore facts. This has been happening since independence and people have been talking about it since that time. And it will continue to happen. Just like Nigeria has always been crap and will always be crap. Saying that one party made it so is just nonsensical to say the least.

what you said is true but the sss don't usually get involved in this type of case until apc came into power. the apc government have indeed turned this nation to a police state.

lagosrd:
Compensation is not a bad idea but at least it's the court of law that should decide that. So they can go ahead and kill people then force them to take compensation. "One day the table will turn"

those who killed him should be court marshalled for murder. the blame for poor compensation goes party to his family. they were too desperate to collect the 15million.

money used in searching for crude oil in the north which is a cover for extreme corruption that's why his wife moves around with multimillion naira jewelleries and handbags.

USA doesn't recognise Taiwan yet they sell billions worth of military equipment to them each year. what's the difference between Barack Hussein obama and Muhammad buhari that doesn't support biafra but supports Palestine and sarawi Arab secession.

Douglaufuoma:
we should not be emotional with issues in this country. first the sss were wrong, but this media stunt is very wrong. if it was to be ur phone or account number that was clone u will shout to the high heavens, that is they say show me ur friend and I will tell u who u are. this s d reason why criminality will not end in our society, cause they know people will always fight for them. a major reason y our security agency are being compromise today.

so the sss that offered to pay damages are stupid? this is an act of murder and the compensation too small. we're in a constitutional society operating under a constitution and the whole show is a shame. besides this does not fall under the work of the sss but rather the police and efcc.the apc has turned Nigeria into a (secret) police state.

gedtalks:
My people pleaseeee I need sincere advise here. Your advise will definitely guide me on the next step to take.

There is a beautiful girl I've been considering getting married to, but the way she requests money and fast food is making her look very ... lol.. "hungry" and opportunistic to me. The values she sees in a man seem to me like its basically what he will BUY for her. I confess that I made matters worse initially by "fast fooding" each time we meet... Now I think she sees me like a free lunch at crunchies. If I call her in the afternoon, she says I'm hungry.. its so irritating now.. in fact I lost a lot of regards for her..but she doesn't know yet.

Recently she asked me for some money and I refused very politely..she said she was "disappointed".

I wonder if she even loves any other thing about me asides the MONEY I WILL GIVE HER. she pays ABSOLUTELY NO attention the things I want her to see in me...like level of maturity, my leadership skills, I taught she was just being childish, but lately I discovered its just her nature. her ideology about a guy is WHAT WILL I GET FROM HIM.. I might dump her .. i wont even talk to her about it. please advise me

you're been deceived by her beauty, i bet she's not dating you alone, she's using you as a maga.i would advise you to get control of your emotions and talk to her, if she argues or doesn't change, dump her and delete her numbers, after the talk start treating her the way you want her to be and monitor her response, if it's not encouraging, dump her, marriage is a lifelong commitment, don't make that mistake.