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orunto27:
This is an Unmitigated Tales of unguided recent Researches.
My name is Orunto27, i.e, 270 years from my Great Grand Father, The 27th Orunto High Chief of Afunbiowo1, The Deji of Akure. This Very High Chief, the 27th Orunto of Akure was privileged to marry The immediate Senior Sister of Afunbiowo1, A R A Y I P E, Yours Sincerely, Grand Mother.
Who does not know that Orunto is a Yoruba Word meaning Heaven is befitting, Heaven is Home, the Ifa second Name of ORUNMILA.
Arayipe, the wife of the 27th Orunto of Akureland is The Mother of F A T O L A, my mother.
So The Deji of Akure, The Osemowe of Ondo, The Olowo of Owo, The Ewi of Ado Ekiti, The Olu of Idanre, The Ologotun of Ogotun, The Ogedengbe, etc are proudly Descendants of O D U D U W A, a NEPHILIM King of Yoruba land in Ile-Ife, The Land of Love.
For Olodumare so love The Yorubas that He gave His Bond(ODU), a Covenant called, ODUDUWA, a Nephilim to them in Ile-Ife.
Please Believe this and not the fabricated scripts coming from Benin conspiracy.
Beni is a Yorubaland, founded by Oduduwa Princess from Ile-Ife.

Is this coming from a lost tribe who know nothing of thier origin nor there existance have so many hisory of thier arrival and of the story of a man who they have so many fictionful account of its origin.....yoruba is lost .....the kingdom negelected the first rulers of ile ife and focused on oduduwa...even the igbos make mockeries of your lies

Lol...history has to be put in place ....the yorubas always neglect the fact and go on fairy tales stories...thier empire ended early 18c the benins empires still countinue uptill date....these are stories after colonization of the benins ....before start saying we spoke yorubas in the palace before later changed the benin....

Everyone can also see in this history why the ondo yoruba language his different from the rest yoruba language........

Thanks to those who want history distorted and diluted for history well said correct the mistakes of the past but the former corrupt the futhre...thank you

https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.edo-nation.net/edoakure.htm&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiZqOCdyP_aAhVM72MKHRAKARMQFjAFegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw0myx6guTIa1sgnSzarRSzM




Edo - Akure Question
From: DR NOWAMAGBE A OMOIGUI


Segun,

The heritage of Edo-Akures is both military and commercial. Many parts of modern Ondo and Ekiti states were part of the Benin Empire and thus many Edos traded within the territories, often living in "quarters" (like sabongari). Also, victorious soldiers often stayed behind to rule over small dominions, leaving behind descendants born of local yoruba mothers. Those who remarried Edos retained their links. Those who did not, tended to get assimilated into the Yoruba tribe - preferring to benefit from the status of a majority tribe as the influence and power of Benin declined. Prior to recent developments, this interaction resulted in the development of a unique language (a cross between Akure-Yoruba and Bini) which is almost lost.

To appreciate the role of Edo-AKure (or Bini-AKure) one must first understand that there were two main axes of trade within old Benin. One was called "waterside trade" focused along creeks and the Benin River involving Itsekiris (as middle men) and white men. The other was called "upcountry trade" which occured along three axes: (a) Ekiti-Ilorin (b)Ishan (c) Afemai. Each group was organized into trading associations with the Oba as patron. The traders of the forest (called "Ekhen-Egbo" were the group that operated in Ekiti country all the way to Ilorin. Their main bases were at Usen and Akure. Each trading association was highly organized and even had its own Odionwere. Ilorin beads were particularly valuable in exchange for brass carvings, salt, guns, matches, tobacco, necklaces, palm kernels, woven cloth, leather, ivory etc.

In Benin there was also a small group of so called Akure-Bini
chiefs. The role of this community of Bini-AKures has been significant. For example, when Ovonramwen signed the treaty in 1892 with Vice Consul Gallwey, the sole interpreter was a man called Ajayi who spoke 'Akure' dialect of yoruba and translated to Edo.

Before that AKure played an interesting role in providing
one of the first challenges to Ovonranmwen in 1889 when the Deji tried to make ceremonial swords without approval. A warrior was dispatched to settle the issues - which was done. [Oba Adolor earlier intervened in a dispute between Ekitis and Oyos - based on historic alliances between Benin and Ekiti]

The role and regimental seniority of AKure-Bini chiefs came under scrutiny during the trial of Benin chiefs in 1897. One of them called Osague had been identified as the individual through whom Ovonramwen allegedly sent a message to Ologbose and others in Ugbine not to kill Phillips and his party. But in retort another Benin chief claimed that no-one could take orders from an "Akure-Bini" chief. The British rejected the plea.

But more importantly, in April/May 1897, when Ebohon and Ologbose were organizing resistance to the British a large number of Akure refugees enlisted to support Ebohon. In the period after the deportation, the Usen-AKure axis was the focus of intense competition between Lagos traders and Benin based British officers who had long term plans for the development of Rubber plantations.

Later on when the monarchy was restored in 1914 the Benin community in Akure made strenuous efforts to reestablish ties with the Oba. They were stopped by the British. A tribute they had sent to Benin was actually returned!

However, the role of "Akure" in Benin politics was to show itself again and again. In 1918, for example, when Iyase Agho Obaseki had a fall out with Eweka II, it was widely rumored that arrangements had been made to import poison / juju from Akure to eliminate the Oba. Again, in 1937/38 during the serious water-rate crisis in Benin, Chiefs Oshodi and Ezomo were accused of conspiring with one Fagbemi (a native doctor in Idanre, near Akure) to make poison for the purpose of liquidating Akenzua II. As a matter of fact, correspondences were discovered (by telegram) necessitating a full inquiry authorized by Bourdillon. Oba Akenzua initially hired the services of a Yoruba lawyer called
Alakija - before the matter was settled out of court.

One of the most famous Iyases in Benin history was called
Okoro-Otun. His original name was Omokhua. He was born in Benin in
1819 but moved to Ekiti land very early, where he became highly
successful as a trader. He, however, visited Benin in 1904 and
predicted that Aiguobasimwin would some day become Oba. His prophecy
came to pass. During the period before he finally returned to Benin in
1915 as the Esama, he fought in the Ibadan-Oyo conflicts and Ijaye
wars. In 1921 he was appointed district head of Ehor. When Akenzua II
became Oba he made 'Okoro-Otun' Iyase in 1928.
Unfortunately, Okoro-Otun clashed with Akenzua II over a number of issues one of which had to do with wearing beaded head dresses of Yoruba origin. This summary is meant to illustrate how and why
Akure-Binis (with a heritage dating back to the trading association days) were generally successful, politically well connected and wealthy. Many families re-emigrated back to Benin bringing not only their skills and business contacts but also (in some cases) their new religion - Islam, acquired through contacts with Nupe jihadists. This 'community' became known as 'Edo N'akhue' - to connote the link to a great migratory commercial (and diplomatic) heritage.

Hence the names like Yusuf, Bello, Giwa and Dawodu - along with other Yoruba names (and arabic influences from Ilorin). Dawodu, for example, is a corrupted form of Daoud - the Arabic translation of David. Of course it is entirely possible that in old deep Bini (or "acure" dialect) it had an acquired meaning - such as "first son". Note that "pure" Edo names typically begin with the letters A, E, I, O, U. But of course there are many modified Edo names that begin with other alphabets.

Although the description "Edo N'akhue" may be perjorative (when used to describe someone whose behavior is stereotyped as slippery and unreliable), the Edo-Akures are the equivalents in Benin of the descendants of prominent American families, for example, who spent most of their lives abroad as diplomats and multinational businessmen. They are a vital and bonafide part of the complexity that is Benin.


In modern Nigeria, certain administrative delineations reflect these old historical links with the Ondos/Ekitis. The Benin-Owina River Basin Authority, for example, covered old Bendel and old Ondo states. Until it was disbanded, the old 4th Infantry Brigade of the Army was similarly deployed. Most recently, one of the zonal offices of OMPADEC based in Benin-City covers Edo, Delta and Ondo states.

Regards,

NAO

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Note the following in the attached write up:

a) Chief Okoro Otun was made the Iyase of Benin by Oba Eweka II after the death of Chief Agho Obaseki who died in the early 20's. He was born at Uvbe village near Abudu. He was one of Oba Eweka's II "foot soldiers " in the struggle for the restoration of the monarchy. He is fondly remembered as OBA MU IYASE KOMI-the Oba has given me the title of the Iyase ( a mixture of Edo-Bini and Akure- Yorubaialects. His house is at Sakponba Road, Benin City, opposite St. Mathew's Cathedral, Benin City. His descendants simply go with the surname IYASE or Iyasere.

b) At the restoration of the monarchy in 1914/15, Oba Eweka II encouraged and lured many of the Edos in Akure and other Yoruba land to return home and help him rebuild the remnants of the ancient Empire. Chief Okoro Otun was one of the "returnees".

C) Oba Akenzua ascended the throne in 1933/4.

[quote author=Obalufon post=67485438][/quote]Now this is a lie .....am even doubting the dahomey source but since dey were few in pop it could easily fit in .....dont be so proud on Dahomey the conqured Oyo back and dispose ur king took thier people.....as for togo and ashanti these are big lies....

Moneywomen17:
so if I bring a source written by a Dahomey u will not attempt to lie that his parents are Yoruba hmm

Lol ...dont worry i have read from a dahomey source that some part of dahomey was controlled by oyo ...but later reclaimed back in d 19c....

But wtf is dahomey something oyo should be proud of dahomey is like d backyard to lagos...
A kingdom dat rose in 16c fell 19c.oyo should forget been proud of defeating female warriors of dahomey...they later came and defeated Oyo verse versa.... Ok.... But majour influence on dahomey is still from benin

Obalufon:
dahomey became independent around middle 19 century when oyo had already lost the north to afonja muslim brotherhood the empire can't stand again egba rebelled against oyo by killing his ajeles in egba with help of lisabi so they can't control the southern part of the empire again ..dahomey tried to muscle power by attacking egbas to acquire slaves for their slave market but they were dealt with seriously true they used female soldier in battle with egbas not Oyo which was a mystically approach in war to demoralized opponent but egba too reacted with use of female soldier led by iya olode egba madan tunubu they conquered the Dahomey army

Lies show me a dahomey source that state they were under the oy empire ....all written account are from the yorubas non is from dahomey ....no trace of oyo influence in benin republic apart from oyo people who were captured by dahomey warrior as slave in the present benin republic....
But benin didn't not conqurer oyo but it influence rose to the entire kingdom they adopt the name benin as thier country name not oyo

If i were to go buy this and judge who would someone believed had influence on dahomey..
Yoruba should stop lying on people head...

BabaRamota1980:
Everything online about ekaladheran is written by Edo. We are unable to find independent and credible attributes of ekaladheran in connevtion witj Yoruba.

Because its fact thats why the yoruba will never read nor write from it....who believes a sky diver or a treaker or a white arab man

Moneywomen17:
@gregyboy if a Yoruba source doesn’t go here what of a source written by Ghanaian about the power of Oyo Empire and how they defeated them in the battle of atakpame. https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Asante-History-Akyem-Abuakwa-And-Dagomba-Wars-271133 Is the Ghana source written by Yoruba too am looking for the lie u will use to discredit this

The ghanas sought aid from oyo meaning what na your kingdom was superior than thiers or you conquered them foolish reference

Reas this .......

An article on edo influenced oyo ,akure,ekiti
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.edo-nation.net/edoakure.htm&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi-9-rW8P3aAhWF2qQKHecdC-EQFjADegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw2yIa3HvMHgUCmWK9wNDQXZ

Moneywomen17:
did u read the source or are u that desperate to find one source. The first two source were just about a Benin story that had no correlation with the point which was that Benin conquered any ekiti town or ijesha. Why the second source just talk about Oyo Empire, Benin empire and some successful raid Dahomey made in some Yoruba town. See this source that show Dahomey was a tributary state to Dahomey.http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Oyo_Empire More picture below.

Lies.....a site written by the same yorubas how do verify if its the truth....it was written by the yorubas

I gave you a link wriiten from an unkown source about the three kingdom oyo,Benin, dahomey
Which clearly state that the Dahomey female warrior invaded the oyo empire for slaves around 17c to 18c

Now if be it dahomey was under oyo empire that wouldnt have happened
Thesame dahomey h claim was under your pop has a little of edo pop ..came as well in d 1990 to revered the old empire in honour to adopt its name for it country

Moneywomen17:
so if u can separate myth from fact why is it difficult for u to separate oduduwa myth of falling from the sky from fact of him coming from a neighboring village from ife in oke-Ora.

Oke ora was just formed recently four account we knew was the egpt guy ,the arab guy,the demon guy and d sudan guy this makes it d fifth who is ever going to believe this recent one others might still come .

If you want me to believe the oke ora story
Post it lets read it ....if it contain fact i swear never to believe on izoduwa from benin

Moneywomen17:
u said nupe traded bead with u before the Portuguese but somehow they did not trade bead with Yoruba that’s what u said that Yoruba did not wear bead till 18c u are the one trying to be cunny

An i quoted before saying nupe and the northerners traded beeds with the yorubas and edo before the 12c it was a majour market from from the north.....


Youngman if you just take your time go read other peoples history apart from yoruba you could understand yoruba history better i have read from both north south east west history

Moneywomen17:
but they know the time oramiyan left Benin and it was surely before u met Portuguese. So Benin traded with nupe but nupe didn’t traded with Yoruba that they share many boundaries with my guy stop lying. Oduduwa came from a neighboring town and when he came ife already had some ruler like obalufon so hardly uncivilized. And about falling from the sky am not ready to indulge u but point u to find the definition of myth. It’s falling from the sky is a myth long after his death when he was deify just like sango, Ogun and others were. So stop trying to distract and provide a good source for ur many bullshit or forever shut up.

Read my previous comment on nupe and yoruba then requote me again....

You see i was born in this era to seperate myth from fact lies from truth

All Yoruba's are cunny they all are snitches and i want to exposed them

Moneywomen17:
my guy are u mad u are just spewing rubbish up and down with no direction. So the ekiti refuse to pay homage to Benin then they fought ijesha how did that relate my dumbass friend. Who is this eken what is my concern with him u just provided rubbish information below. Provide source written by anyone about this imiginary war let’s access it and go from there. Provide the Yoruba source that says Benin conquered Ogun that has ijebu that was independent From anybody till British or egba that broke away from oyo and was independent till British. If u know provide any source to back ur claim may amadhioa and ayielala strike u down. I will keep cursing u till u choose to make ur point with reputable source.

I provided source u were to blind to read abi ....someone has read it be there time will pass you


For those who really want to know the ties btw dahomey,benin and oyo read this ...

Its exposes the yoruba myth on dahomey
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/view/document/obo-9780199846733/obo-9780199846733-0169.xml&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiKvq3C4v3aAhUKPVAKHZr3DfcQFjAFegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3E-AcP0HBFDowE021K6YW0

Moneywomen17:
Benin man bead is not ur birthright I have been asking one of ur brothers since yesterday to show prove that Benin conquer any Yoruba town especially ijesha or osun where ife his but he has been unable too. Maybe if I place a curse on u too u will be compel to provide ur proof on where Benin controll any Yoruba town. The kriji war was a civil war fought among Yoruba with ijesha ondo and Ekiti fighting in it not to be subjugated by Ibadan but Benin is no where to be found. So if u make any claim provide proof or again make amadhioa destroy u and ur family. Now ur kind ruin this forum saying rhetoric with not just a single fact.

Tanks For notifying me.. ondo state go there ask for osemawe of ondo (he was enacted by the benin

Go to ijesha ask the oldmen there to tell you on the benin war with them when the the ekiti people refused to payhomage there king head was sent to benin the warrior eken died in d war as a result he stool at uselu have been empty the oba told his son to occupy the stool till eken comes back from war but he nevered return this tradition his still practise uptill now during coronation the benin price is the ediaken meaning (wait for eken to come)


ogun you can also use your eyes nd hand go read it up on net from yoruba source
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.edoworld.net/The_role_of_Edaiken_of_Uselu.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi6g5PN3f3aAhXNJlAKHXuBDIgQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1sQGwjWMA6KxBBJxuJE0ED

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.edoworld.net/Origin_Of_Edaiken_Of_Uselu.html&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi6g5PN3f3aAhXNJlAKHXuBDIgQFjABegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1CCYYXx2edQ9ODxDkrDA9n

Moneywomen17:
Benin man bead is not ur birthright I have been asking one of ur brothers since yesterday to show prove that Benin conquer any Yoruba town especially ijesha or osun where ife his but he has been unable too. Maybe if I place a curse on u too u will be compel to provide ur proof on where Benin controll any Yoruba town. The kriji war was a civil war fought among Yoruba with ijesha ondo and Ekiti fighting in it not to be subjugated by Ibadan but Benin is no where to be found. So if u make any claim provide proof or again make amadhioa destroy u and ur family. Now ur kind ruin this forum saying rhetoric with not just a single fact.

For notifying me ondo state go there ask for osemawe of ondo (he was enacted by the benin

Go to ijesha ask the oldmen there to tell you on the benin war with them when the the ekiti people refused to payhomage there king head was sent to benin the warrior eken died in d war as a result he stool at uselu have been empty the oba told his son to occupy the stool till eken comes back from war but he nevered return this tradition his still practise uptill now during coronation the benin price is the ediaken meaning (wait for eken to come)
ogun you can also use your eyes nd hand go read it up on net from yoruba source

Moneywomen17:
what prove do u need didn’t they wear the beads. The beads on oduduwa neck wasn’t it carve long before Benin met Portuguese or are u sayin when oduduwa Alive and oramiyan was just goin to Benin to be the king u were already meeting Portuguese.

Yoeuba dont know the exact date oduduwa arrived take it or leave it ...oduduwa came too meet an uncivilized people rules over it and enacted the Benin rule

Follow d benin history on the last ogiso then u see d date izoduwa arrived....

Beeds in Yoruba were traded fron the north simple if oduduwa came from d east probably he wont might have worn beed also if he came from egypt but if he fell friom sky he would have broke his beed unless he travelled a lesser distance which is benin he wore d beed along his journey to ife....

Note benin had beed before been brought by the portuguese traded by the nupes nd northerners
They cherished the Portuguese own better because it lasted longer and for its colour

Obalufon:
From river Niger to upper Volta river ..The ruler of River Niger to upper Volta river in togo Alafin prides himself on that fact ..is a written record documented by scholars in African history. Oyo was an Empire ..Oyo crushed ashanti army in atakpeme togo ..Do you read history books ..To the north Oyo ruled Bida bariba even nupe they were under his tributaries go to Niger state they still speak Yoruba fluently Hausa were used as slaves in Oyo ..southern west region Dahomey ,ewe,fon allada ketou badagry , Togo were ruled by Oyo alafin Aktapeme were all under great Oyo empire...Oyo empire didn't encompass all Yoruba speaking region of Nigeria... Oyo empire moved far west than stay in south west region of NIGERIA..Benin ruled much of Ondo and Ekiti not by war "NOT BY CONQUEST BY THE FACT OF HISTORICAL LINEAGE OF ODUDUWA L .. Most monarch in ondo has lineage from Benin up to Lagos ..land of the aworis they made prince Ado OF BENIN their king on his trade expedition to Ghana Because they see Prince Ado as omo Oduduwa not different from them

Truth will be separated from ...there is a parable that says so many lies brought together brings the truth ....ure saying a lie nw but truth as been deducted from it ...your fellow brothers said benin nevered fought any war with yoruba tribes
Some said that they only attempted but failed
You came and said it was due to linage or social contract ....i laff because no matter how you all paddle ur lies it will still comeout from ur mouth

Just let a little disagreement btw two yorubas and you see all the truth spilling out and you the children will start covering the lies of the old men
I still bet on it if nigeria divides yorubas will split up ....

Addressing the issue of empire oyo was never an empire if a togo man or a dahomey man where to be on this forum ...it wil be another another argument against oyo lies ....it be true u conqured togo nd Dahomey wat was the influence of the war on the oyo people where are the evidence ,were they songs of it ,are they artefact about it...if know its a lie a togo man will dispute this ur lies same with dahomey ...we knew the dahomey female warrior delt with oyo army mercilessly same with nupe and fulanis....

Boost on other people territories let them hear about this and the whole africa will tag yorubas lie lords ...of africa ....
Oyo in actual truth ruled only his fellow brothers who were not totally sumited to the alafin rule
The comming of the empire was more of social contract rather than war the war they went outside thier brothers they lost .....any fact behind are fiction

Obalufon:
Yoruba vast in fiber glass beads making lot of different colors from rocks special stone found naturally .it will heated at high temperature to melt and mould into beads inform of glass making we were making Awo |"dish" even before the importation of china porcelain dish with fiber glass for rituals

Those are stories with no prove to it...i could come and say benin made areoplanes before the white taught about it ....with no prove mere than words

[quote author=davidnazee post=67195206]It’s true Benin was a mighty kingdom and the mightiest and most influential when the whites came. Oyo was never stronger than Benin militarily.. Oyo probably had a larger Calvary forces.
Reason both kingdoms never went to war was because they both had different military tactics. Oyo forced were best at open plains while Benin was best at forests and infantry attacks.
Three times Oyo tried to attack Benin and were badly beaten up.
Benin would have probably lost if it had gone to Oyo too becos of Oyo large numbers.
So both kingdoms never really went to full out war.

Stop this lies oyo nd benin nevered went to war at all ....if it happened were is prove how did it happened how did the war start pls edos don't join yorubas with lies they probably alredy skilled with it and dey will drown on it.....

My second opinon is oyo was never zn empire it was s kingdom ..it ruled over his fellow brothers the assertion that they colonized Dahomey is what the dahomey female still brags with uptill now they defeated the male oyo army as a matter of fact the spread of oyo pple to dshomey was influenced by two reason slave trade and the kiriji war...
Togo was too far for the oyo army to reach dat one na lie if they army go far distance to conquer togo why didnt dey go short distance to reclaim illorin simple psychology

odigbosky:
So i have been seeing a particular picture of the supposed burial sites of all Benin kings. Well lets try and be logical here. Over here in the South, we all know that the burial site of kings are kept secret even from family members. Some princes don't even have any idea where it is. I remember an Oghara Prince telling us that his father coprse had been beheaded and he doesnt even know the burial site. He is not suppose to even know at all. This is among the Uhrobos of Delta state. If we are to go by the fact the Ooni say Oba Ado is his son, is it not a let down that he shows commoners the burial place of one of his greatest sons. How many Ife indigines know the burial sites of all dead Oonis? if the Ooni has a burial site for Oba Ado as been showed here, it means the Ooni should have similar site for the Aalafin of Oyo and his other sons. Can the Ooni show us these sites also? if these other sons of Oduduwa dont have burial sites in Ife, why does Oba Ado has? and if they do and we cant see them, why then can we see that of Oba Ado? Secrecy is one of the features of kingship and lots of it matters.

All dead Obas of Benin are buried here in Ogbe but no one knows the exact location. No Bini man can come out to tell you, they dont even know it. I will give you some exeptions to these rule
1. Oba Omonoyan (oronmiyan) He did not die in Benin,he died in the yorubalands where he was born.
2. Oba Ewuare the Great was bureid at his mother village at Esi near Udo. He requested this himself
3. Oba Ehengbuda, He died by drowning in the coastal waters of Lagos.
4. Oba Ovonramwen, he died and was buried in Calabar.

Speaking of Oba Ovonramwen, i have tried searching for pictures of his burial site or grave in calabar i have not really seen any. Maybe if i visit calabar i will have the opportunity of seeing it, but if there is none, i will be dissapointed because if the Efiks of Calabar that are far away can at least show courtsey in keeping the burial site of a king from distant kingdom secret, i wonder why a father would choose to change the burial site of one of his sons to a public spectacle.


Below is the picture of the Burial site of Queen Bilikisu Sungbo of Oke-eri in Ogun state. Compare this to the supposed burial site or resting place for Kings of the great benin kingdom who they rank as 3rd in the list of yoruba kings.


Now see the original picture of the supposed burial site of Kings of Benin before it was even painted. you have a drainage running through. see dirty everywhere....i consider this an insult and a stain to the name Benin.

U believing dat crap of a grave issue ...it was probably painted by an ethnocentric yoruba guy
They didnt even show it during oba coronation when the argument was hot...now they hve gone to paint a latrine d wall should have been made of mud sand full of other traditional items around it
Who is a father that we want the head of an oba to buried at a latrine

Yes oba of benin were buried at different site in benin with the head intact ....yorubas are just lying junks Yoruba(cunny)

Wealthandjobs:
I am sure you don't know the meaning and it's significance.
That's where the heads of past Oba of Benin were buried sir. The place is one of the special and ancient places in Ile Ife.
That's one of the reasons the descendants of the Oranmiyan keep going to Ife sir.Any descendant of Oranmiyan sitting on that Oba of Benin stool who doesn't go to Ife has not concluded it's rite. The Benin Royalty is Yoruba and that's why Oba of Benin must go to Ile Ife , the Source.
Those Yoruba ancestors are very smart.They gave Benin people the body not the heads of the descendants of Oranmiyan

Sir i was overwhelmed by your fallacy ...yoruba man pls can u show me a head that was buried there ....we dont even know if is the human head or d artefact head of the oba ....
I still want to see prove


But i know benin conquered yoruba state like ijesha u see there kings wearing round benin beeds, benin conaured ondo( osemawe of ondo)
,benin conqured osun with Lagos the nigeria manp can justify this this state were closer to the beni territories.... Now has i have prove to you with this prove to me oba heads were buried or shug ur fallacious mouth up

Moneywomen17:
there is no Benin ada any ada found in Yoruba hand is Yoruba. Moremi was alive in the 12 century and there is a bead around her neck. As far as am concerned there is no bead made by Benin u bought it from Portuguese but Yoruba also made bead and bought it too. Yoruba has been making bead no be today unlike u only got it when u met the Portuguese.

Show me d pple who made d beeeds how was it made....and i will show u d pple who made d benin artefact at igun in Benin outside this yoruba boy....go sit down ...ure just lying

Olu317:
Are you so uneducated? Does the picture I posted look like Odua?That picture was around 12th century........You are not worth the stress.

12c my foot .....lie...lie....lie .....a kingdom that was birthed 12c made this tell me profound lies and i believe .....

12c was when yoruba history started from i guess no clothes no beeds probably then now you want to claim this 12c joker lie with fact guy

Moneywomen17:
@gregyboy look at this pix well wat do u see around moremi neck

Nigga there diffrence btw short beeds and round beeds compare d one by the oba and oduduwa with moremi ...moremi is just wearing a short beed and long ones a round beed is wider dan short beeds compare my friend ....yoruba never made beeds never worn beeds till d 18c bring fact i guess d artwork who did that included those beeds those statue are recent statue done probably in d late 18c or 19 does yoruba even knew what is statue before the advent of the British not to talk of erecting one spear me your lies all the art work done before d advent of the white by yorubas where bust(head to chest)

According to history the northern people that sold beeds to the yorubas...beeds at the late 18c was been marketed by the northerners uptill date u still hve them selling it

Here is a prove dat dat wasnt really a round beed worn by moremi it could d way d sculpturist depreciated it in is way here photos proved yorubas kings wore long beeds couldn't find any acient one probably yourubas never immortalized thier kings

One yoruba kings was shown holding the benin ada for symbol of authority....benin history all over yoruba nation both in terms of food ,dressing style ,food etc u all still come together to rewrite history just like your father awolowo taught

Moneywomen17:
first u said Yoruba don’t wear bead I showed u the bead now u say it’s not rounded do u have eyes at all. Yoruba traded through all the Sahel we didn’t need no Portuguese. Benin was the one who need Portuguese and look very well there is a lot of bead on her neck some rounded and some not.

Lol u just showed me oduduwa this moremi with no round beed am trying to browse a search on any of ur ooni if any wore a rounded beed just wait

..this sculpture was done not quite long ..so all those rounded beed was sculpturist perception on her not actuall fact....yoruba histories are all recent..both d dahomey its a lie u ruled a particular people u didnt give them duke your influence was never in them to show so ....and you called that ruling its an hoax

Moneywomen17:
here is Moremi art that I found online. Tell me what is that u see around her neck

Niggq dat aint a rounded bead thats how the carver potray d beed curve dont mean it curve ....seems all d caving looks like oduduwa statue show me better prove didnt u see oba of benin own rounded with enuff round beeads even uptill now i still set a diamond if u tell me who sold beeds to d yorubas before d 18c ....the beeds d benin wore was brought by d Portuguese nd d Portuguese nevered made contact with oyoy so tell me how come u guys have beed

The so called morami was which year nd when was d statue made prove my friend


This carving is probably oduduwa rep same pattern of design everything i doubt

ariesbull:
You can imagine some tiny minority group....it took the Igbo less than 24 hours to over run them ...they should always pray for one Nigeria ..because if this country divides ...Benin city would be war booty

They don't know that they are in middle of two big tribes which can annex them easily...the Igbo and Yoruba then another relatively big tribe the Ijaw


You can imagine the tiny Benin with their tiny oba disturbing everywhere ....he doesnt even rule the Igbo speaking part of Edo (igbanke) or the Yoruba speaking part of the Edo (Akoko)

Tiny Benin

Foolish ibos ....i guess if it was pop i guess British wont have colonized the igbos oga....inform edo for ibo& edo war ...not d one you cum and shoot unarmed cilvilans....i guess it took less than hours for ogbemudia to drive dat useless ojukwu with his incomplete teeth of his out of edo....forgod sake it wasnt edo u conqured u fought d nigerian army not edo....majority my foot
Ure been slideline in politics by d north nd west nd u all raise ur stupid tongues nd write ur a majour tribe....i bet nxt 20yrs the north will elinate all d ibos to just one state nd Yoruba's will do well to assist

Olu317:
Are you kidding? Below is one of Ooni's art ,who wore beads like a proper exposed/civilised superior King. I am sure you have nothing close to it. A handsome Ooni to behold . A classic Art that's not comparable to Edo's learner alike. Yoruba ni Ba yín( Yoruba is your father).

What da hell is dat not dsame oduduwa d benin i told u not to use apart from him is there anoda

Prove me wrong yoruba never wore beed till d 18c apart from izoduwa ekaladeran if its a lie prove with an artefact dat proves otherwise apart from oduduwa statue

Obalufon:
Oba CEREMONIAL REGALIA .rapper with rounded beads laugh!!!! i can send you a picture of me dressing like that that is ile-ife dressing style too ..The Awos OGBONI cult still dress like that and chiefs in ile-ife.......ILE-IFE is known for glass beads making all over Africa even glass dish dishes Awo

Show me a 15c picture of artefact dat prove so apart from oduduwa yorubas never wore beads nor white clothes u all probably imitated it in d early 18c what u had was adire

Lemme see yours

Obalufon:
Oba CEREMONIAL REGALIA .rapper with rounded beads laugh!!!! i can send you a picture of me dressing like that that is ile-ife dressing style too ..The Awos OGBONI cult still dress like that and chiefs in ile-ife.......ILE-IFE is known for glass beads making all over Africa even glass dish dishes Awo

Show me a 15c picture of artefact dat prove so apart from oduduwa yorubas never wore beads nor white clothes u all probably imitated it in d early 18c what u had was adire

Moneywomen17:
another dumbass lol. Of course the Igbo will agree with u if a clothe is white for real and Yoruba agree it’s white ibo will say it’s black. With that said this is the owa-obokun of ijesha with a circular bead. Ilesha has no relationship with Benin before u start saying another nonsense. As u can see in the first pix even Ooni the Ooni with the owa-obokun and second pix he was wearing circular bead too. None of it has to do with Benin. Beads are rooted deep into Africans not only Benin get educated about that fact.

Even everyone can see its recently adopted by him some me a pics of 17c or early 18c at most and i will show u benin of the 14c wearing rounded beed i dont know the state ijesha is but i believe if i trace the monarchy linage it would those vasile state under the benin b4 d advent of d British if it fall under this five state forget it ...it was from benin eko,ekiti,osun,ogun,ondo those state was under the Benin's

It can easily be see d beeds don't even match with the rest beeds on his necks yorubas were never known for rounded beeds it was probably a gift from benin


Wait youngman is it ijesha ediaken story ...the duke chief who was sent to war in benin to bring d ijesha king head to the palace after the war the ijesha king who refuse to pay tribute was killed by ediaken and his head was brought to d palace and the ijrsha king was replace by a benin duke who later ruled ijesha land .....this still one reason our prince remains an ediaken before a crown prince....so yoruba boy u aint even aware of this history an you want to argue with me an historian by field you must be joking ....go on net and read the story of ediaken the uselu duke