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erico2k2:
Plz when was the last time you went to the Benin Museum? I was there two years ago, when did you last go there?
FYI part of the Moat is still visible, the present govt is trying really hard to rejuvenate its past historical stand
PS I not from Edo but just like its rich heritage as regards History.

Am benin and i would say benin is leaving on past glory in the world ....just go to igun were all this art were made the leave in penury...

As for historical renovation is actually zero my friend the moat is almost closed up..the government has not done anything to bring it back or maintain it ...since the Benin walls were destroyed by the british it wasn't even built again ...the moat is been used as sewage and refuse dump in the entire city...a moat that was once recongnised in guiness book of record...if proper maintance was done on this moat if its well exibited to the world i bet everyone will want to come to the place that made the beautiful art to see its moat or walls ...it will create so much mobey for the state...nevertheless to do such work on this tourism it requires billions of money not the one ge is doing....

For the art to be returned i say no...keep it till will developed to have it back

Returning it is not the issue but maintaining it...

Perhaps it is too much for the benins to handle for now....its more than 2000 worth of art piece we have not yet built back the benin walls nor maintain the moat or even the Benin museum its terrible....

If its to collect the important ones leave the rest till when nigeria it better then we could take all back....

The art are in most world power countries just name it ....if not the entire Europe its going ti be difficult to fight all of them ...oba should collect the important one then the british should come to nigeria and make a dublicate of the art work been taking simple.....
But the british sha they wanted to eliminate the full benin race

Hmmm ....even d britsh riyals have yet not abolish thier archade laws....

Our tribalist here in nigeria will kill themselves when they hear oba nor dey go transfer....

But they will support dont sleep before the Queen

Are both not bondage hypocrite everywhere

Yea....gone to check nothing as such in her photos

Ur new girlfriend is unwise...this my advice is dangerous but it will help u....
Get the contact of ur ex start calling her texting her in the present of ur new girlfriend always do that....and try convincing her ur new girlfriend that ur ex is the cause for the calling and texting and u cant resist by so she will have the reasons to push her away.....
But if it dont work they will conspire to eliminate you...if u also.get too attach to ur ex during this period and makes her believe u coming bck and suddenly sly het again she is going bring a gun to ur House.... Play safe be smart

I know of hotel built in benin....its built like the benin traditional structures with a museum of artefact there ....with also many art ....white people go there for tourism takes picture because they found something different from what they see around promoting a castle culture that is not ours is not worth it ...we need promote our structures to the white before they completely feel we never had any.....

Obalufon:
The city engaged extensively in trade and became wealthy. It was known for its powerful cavalry. The capital city was Oyo-Ile, also sometimes called Katunga or Old Oyo. The palace of the ruler (oba) was the most important building. The large market was the heart of the city. There was a tall wall made of earth around the city for defense.

The Oyo traded with the Portuguese for guns and horses. Their cavalry and guns enabled them to dominate the region between 1700 and 1900. Civil war and divide and conquer strategies of the Europeans eventually brought about the decline of the Oyo.

This images of yours is computerly made

Moneywomen17:
my guy what the Bleep are u talking about. Look through this comment below then use ur brain then comment again. Dahomey kingdom is seperate from the many town of Yoruba that exist in Benin Republic autonomously. Why don’t u read then use ur brain before u ever say anything is that so hard or wrong to use ur brain. U said the town are not Yoruba town I corrected u now u are saying so many bullshit. Is this ur plan to frustrate me with ur foolishness or what.

Ur lies are cofusing u...i will not insult never ..ure already pained to hard my insult to it...i just deduced fro. What you said

This happens when ladies go after money rather than lover...they LovePeddler around spoiling a niggas name....

I still rember the bitch who denied my friend just because she was with another nigga ...my friend called the other day to come take money she came slept with the bitch promise d bitch is ready to take care of the baby after 9months... My nigga denield it .told d bitch go meet her other guy .he probably not the owmer


In the other way around if the guy is from the northwest opposite is d case is provab probably a certified skull miner

Moneywomen17:
my guy Ketou is ketu the Benin people write it different same with sabe they write as save. Those are absolutely Yoruba town that existed for so long close to dahomey. Yoruba is the second largest ethnic group in Benin after the fon. The fon are the people of Dahomey kingdom

Ok....did it say conqured ...no it didnt fellow yorubas like will say its conquering ...this was simply migration the oyo king took advantage of the people and added them to it territory ...these were d same group of people who ran from war and slave raid to seek comfort in Dahomey ur king took advantage of them as well as history is concerned oyo only colonized his brothers ...
Its strength still lies within a kingdom

BabaRamota1980:
Ife already colonized you...why does Oyo need to bother?

Haha small shrine called ife i laff ...just sit down one day and open your mind dont be dogmatic read the benin history ...you deduced that were ever they go to .the empire strecthed to they always enact a king there...thats what we did to ife .to the men of those days they never took izoduwa as an important person we only took ewuare becuase he made a big deal in benin ..i would be izoduwa did something asthonished like idia,emotan,adesuwa,ewaure ,edo he could have been well noted but he did nothing ..his fate was not in benin but ife he established ife thats y they regard him so much ....now ur eye can open to see reasons and fact

Moneywomen17:
my guy Ketou is ketu the Benin people write it different same with sabe they write as save. Those are absolutely Yoruba town that existed for so long close to dahomey. Yoruba is the second largest ethnic group in Benin after the fon. The fon are the people of Dahomey kingdom

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To my understanding of what you are saying is that oyo only colonize thier people who leaved close to benin republic not actually the real benin republic indigene

Obalufon:
three oldest kingdom of Yoruba are in republic of Benin ..popo ketou and sabe...

Another hoax those aint even yoruba names..just forget it dahomey weeped oyo ass

To stop this menace we have to put to an end all our traditional herbalist

BabaRamota1980:
He asked if you know where Oyo is. You were to quick to respond.

Respond just as quick...or even quicker to this next question.

Do you know where ekalderhan is and why he became fugitive?

Goggle is your friend pls when you read dont be partial

Olu317:
Where exactly do you live? Have you ever taken time to visit Dahomey Museum? Are you really read? You amaze me with these your views. Is this how you reason? Obviously, you and your likes are amongst the Edos ,whose views ridicule archeology and oral historical account. Before you can comment on Dahomey, you need visit the place and see,how Yoruba had influenced,their tradition, despite the fact that Yorubas aren't the majority,among the ethnic groups in Bénin Republic. This is the power God has given to Yorubas to dominate any environment the settledown .Honestly, stop quoting me because, you have not given out anything as fact or reference to back up your opinion. At least, if Edo did anything in Dahomey country, there must be a footprint of their tradition and language influence ,either written books by Western historians or Dahomey descendants. Kindly cite some books written by Edo Authors, researchers or stop commenting because you are wasting your time....

Now i wanna ask you how many hours will it take from lagos to contonou ...modern day Nigeria has influenced them not pre colonial times...contonou to lagos is like warri to benin modern transportation influenced it ..if not there was never an influenced on the oyo village on dahomey in pre colonial times..except the oyo peole they took captive from Oyo as slave and those who ran from been sold as slave so with those who ran from the kiriji war...apart from this yoruba had no historical ties on the dahomey people....yoruba is know to be cunny and a weakling right from time thats y all your kings surrendered at a little kobo and threat to the british conquest...i spit on the race of weakling

Obalufon:
do you know where oyo is ..they will use plane or car right ....Trading with Dahomey then is trading with oyo Some visited oyo and made account of its greatest ..

Ha lie from pit of hell towards d 18c when all europeans rushed to Africa thars when they discovered oyo village not the kingom because kingdom don fall by then

Olu317:
I am not interested in opinion. Give evidence to buttress your point. If Ghanaian history,which Ashanti was very prominent mentioned Oyo,as a fearful force that defeated them,what is Bini in the eyes of history? Get thee behind me. As long as Western part of Nigeria is concerned, Yorubas remained, the reason for Edo civilization...

As influential as your kingdom his it was not even seen by the europeans ..it was shoen that europeans visited Ghana nd dahomey if truely you conquer this people or even influence them i bet the Europeans would have located oyo but it wasnt so y

Olu317:
I am not interested in opinion. Give evidence to buttress your point. If Ghanaian history,which Ashanti was very prominent mentioned Oyo,as a fearful force that defeated them,what is Bini in the eyes of history? Get thee behind me. As long as Western part of Nigeria is concerned, Yorubas remained, the reason for Edo civilization...

A son birthed his father how does that make sense...benin kingdom grew largely influenced half the yoruba pop ...it woukd have gone boyound d eastern yorubas to the west if not for colonization our influenced on the french made dahomey to be renamed benin wuth the oba approval .u claim a kingdom who the female warrior raped your men to death in war took ur people captive the fa people of dahimey ...rescued back thier village from ur village empire
No influence is seen on the people you said you colonise so how do want me to believe so

Moneywomen17:
Benin art was taken by the British in the same 19c when they bombarded ur city so what are u talking about or can u point me to anytime before the 19c when any Benin art was in england. What is the name of the person that sold the ife art to British and please provide source for it. And as for people hating Yoruba I guess u have been sleeping before this is Nigeria nigga everybody fucking hate each other so why should yoruba cry about hatred when we hate them too lol.

Lol...getting intresting...before i point to you on that first show me the people who sold your fellow brother's into slavery then i will show who sold the ife head .it disgust me when yorubas claim we learnt art from them ...and only art made by them was burst particularly face nd neck alone with similar pattern both in face and design you can hardly distinguish one from another ...and they want to link it a gliurious art like benin which were made of wood made of bronze that shows full figured humans. insanity in that kind of comparism...nevertheless our art was taking in 1897 urs was dugged up during construction site in 1940 and sold to the britsh while most were giving as gratitude same way all your kings sold thier lands for a penny

Moneywomen17:
lol my guy comot for here u said and I quote ogiso literally means king and u indeed call ur king that before oramiyan came. According to edo u had ogiso igodo and the rest not oba igodo. Ogiso means “heavenly royal” and oba means “shining white” according to u. This ridiculous claim by u only shows two things even if u revisionist claim are true calling a king “heavenly royal” makes much sense than “shining white” why would a king be called the “the shining white of edo” instead of the “heavenly royal of edo” now u are back again to tell me oba means king instead of the shining white my guy stick to one claim and stop embarrassing urself. Another question is why did Benin stop calling their king ogiso what they have always call them. No Benin has been able to answer

Open your mind and dont be dogmatic
Ogiso(heavenly royals) ogie(royal or royalty) oba genealogy shining meaning king


For those yoruba who believe rubbish about the oba movement read this

Moneywomen17:
so ogiso literally means king according to u so why are u using oba now hmm coincidentally after a people who also use the word oba to refer to king sent a prince to Benin. Oba means king in Yoruba why ogiso according to u means king in Edo.

Tell me the different ways of explaining a word i bet you dont know..lemme school you
You can explain a word literally ,descriptively, theorotically....thats what i just did in the explaination of ogiso ....

Oba is the general word for king you can only explain it two ways descriptively and theoretically
Unlike ogiso which could be explain 3 ways

With this you can can now comprehend ogie iso literary means heavenly royal, describtively they are leaders
Theoretically : they are heavenly kings who were beads and ruled benin

The real meaning here is the literally explanation

Moneywomen17:
u dey mad my guy every Benin except u revisionist says ogiso means sky king none ever said it means royalty except u. Where has any Yoruba told u oduduwa comes from according to the Yoruba myth note I said “myth” not recent claim or anything just myth.

Get the difference even most edos dont know this i wanna say

Sky king where the people who came from sky
Seperating the word
Ogie (royal )
Iso(sky)
Example just like saying head-phone they two different word which people use to describe the general word for earpice .now the head mean your head phone(ur mobile phone) literally what it
Means it earpiece just like ogie iso literally mean king but when seoerated it means two different word and when interpreted is royal and sky but when the meaning it refers to as king

BabaRamota1980:
I dont want to hear from you.

Bring that guy samuk here to talk. Thats the only sensible Edoman here. He already said Ogiso Ekaladheran was banished. He needs to finish the story.

Tell me am a listener...i want to learn because i believe the guy who fell from sky is a myth

All yoruba pls gather here we want to know the real origination of oduduwa where did really come from

Moneywomen17:
good so Ogie does mean king in ur language instead of that fraud gregyboy trying to lie. My question how did Ogie change to oba the word U now call ur king. Two Yoruba mythology never said oduduwa fell from the sky he said he came from the sky it seems u have been hearing too much of ur edo boys propaganda on nairaland. He was sent by god to earth note this is myth of Yoruba on oduduwa just there are several myth of king like sango and others who were also deify after their death. U might be an illiterate so this is what deify means. Hundreds of Yoruba ancestor king and others who were impressive during their life time was deify it has nothing to do with Benin. U can check all the Yoruba gods as refrence. If ofuduwa was from Benin there is no way it will not be noted in ife history and someone coming from the sky is an over use myth in African group.

I will say it again ogie mean royal or royalty ogiso mean heavnly royalty ,enogie( a sent royal) oba means king ...dont ulter my language with no knowledge of it people confused ogie has doesnt mean is king if wanna say am from a royal blood in benin i would simple ogie ehi kin meaning am a royal blood but if i wanna say am a king i simple say oba ehi mwen khin meaning am a king...

Yoruba has so many myth about oduduwa pls clarify me on the recent one where did oduduwa come from

Olu317:
What primitive Art?

Confusion btw the yorubas haha...

prolog2:
And I suppose you were there to witness what you alledge ?
I guess the people of Benin Kingdom were thinking (700 years ago) about how to fake precolonial maps so that when nigeria would be created, some Edo would be able to show those maps on nairaland.
I also guess the traders and the map experts who came to establish trade routes and gather as much information as possible thought it were best to have blind trust on people whom they didn't even know and with whom conversation was difficult.

Yeah just throw away proof by the wave of a hand and then provide a fake map to buttress your fake claims.
Just take a look at your laughable map it is supposed to be showing the borders more than 200000 years ago ! ?
How old is your silly map (I bet the guy who made it is still alive).

Why must yoruba cover themselves with ridicule all the time ?
History is not for 419.


I have just noticed that your map was made with a computer.
The irony: you try to rubbish authentic maps and then you proceed to replace them with fake maps which are more in accordance with your claims and beliefs. This is the yoruba attitude, you live in a fantastic world. You believe you can rewrite the passt by just refusing the truth and making up your own "truth".

Ha...igbise nuen ..youre very smart you tatckle all part and parcel of thier lies i thought i was the only smart guy around dealing with them...oba gha to kpere ....ise

Obalufon:
stop adverting primitive art you can't compare it with ife art

Hahaha....i dont believe u said this.... Again haha
Ife art my foot the ife found in the early 19c was sold to the british and olukun head was given to the British as gratitude for colonising them ....yaribas are ever cunny the east desise yuo the south despise you the north pretends to love you and to crown it all you all desise each other what an easy race to break apart

Obalufon:
ibo masquerading as edo here.. ...Yoruba are warring people we fought more wars than any tribe in Nigeria fighting runs in the blood we even fought ourselves to the extent of giving tribal marks for identification in Yoruba land .. our street boys have the highest battle scar in the street how many ibo or edo even dreaded Hausa boys dey get cutlass or dagger wound on a daily basis.. i pray war shouldn't broke out is going to be a total genocide...... during the civil war Yoruba has the highest enlistment into the army ..we freed edo from the shackles of Ojukwu army led by a Yoruba man victor banjo...Fulani dey kill your people in edo state you are doing nothing about it ,crying for help from the federal government , Even in the east too..Fulani dare not try it in Ibadan or core Yoruba state . Ekiti dealt with them

Hahaha laffing in edo language.... You freed edos from biafra hahaha your head needs to be cut for ogun ...for this your lies i believe benin was not even aware biafra approached thier territory ...when they got to know they ment evil ogbemudia and his men gave ojukwu a humilting beating of his life ...i bet if it was d benin army they biafrans fought with i bet they will eliminate the full eastern state and show no mercy ...

Yoruba is a joke history formed in the 19c by paper by awolowo and his co member is that history ...no account of thier lifes were documented .but they sold the highest slaves during the slave raid what a race

BabaRamota1980:
Which Bini army? Where was this army when Biafra conquered and ruled over Edo?

Foolish question where was your people when benin conqured half of the yoruba race r when the british treating all your rulers abi when the female dahomey warriors raped your men dead

BabaRamota1980:
When we are done with your guys here you will begin to doubt your Edo roots. You need to go ahead and register a BiniNation before someone else gets it.

We are going to separate the Bini from the Edo and demystify your hoax called Ekaladherwn.


If you cant find Ekaladheran...your entire Edo story falls apart.

You must explain with placements and history where he is. Im not letting any of youu off the hook till you locate the fugitive.

And we probably to the same to ife history state our son meant people in ife this means those people didnt originate from oduduwa linage ..but the rest did so would probably take all to edo