₦airaland Forum

R.I.P sir.....If true.

kingzizzy:
When you control your resources, it does not matter what the federal government controls. When you control the resources on your land, you control your destiny. You become the one in control of your own development. Unlike this unitary system we practice now where everyone runs to the federal government for monthly subvention, in true federalism, it is the Federal Government that runs every every month to the federating unitsfor subvention. It he who controls resource that holds the key. Because Ironsi did not touch resource control, he is not the one who introduced unitary rule. The person who introduced unitary rule in Nigeria was Gowon when he abolished resource control

Resource control died when the constitution was abrogated. On what basis would you control your resources when the constitution that gave you that power was no longer in existence?

Which part of this story was untold?

Dedetwo:
The persons who made the video are functional idiots. There is fold water everywhere in the world. However in certain localities, the flood water is not allowed to cause permanent damages as witnessed in Nigeria. The moment the down pour is over, the flood water shall be drained. If by any reason the flood water remained on the flooded area for extended time the maintenance crew will be on the scene. In Nigeria the flood water is allowed to erode the asphalt and turn into milky mud solution.

You cunningly ran away from the decree 34 thread after asking me to post the decree. Wily old dede.

AniOmaa:
Are we talking about the same Ironsi that didn't even last six months as Head of state before he was killed? I mean the man didn't even live long enough to defend his policies for goodness sake! and there's no record to suggest his military regime was marred with corruption, nepotism, and all sort of maladministrative dilemmas that his successors unleashed on Nigerians! Nigerians are some really f*cling daft set of people walahi, imagine blaming Ironsi for the woes of 1966,when all your leaders (who weren't Igbos btw) all collectively messed up Nigeria. How come all the Northern and Yoruba leaders who were in power till date didn't do any better than Ironsi? (a man who only lasted 6 months in office)

The same yaribanza idiots who are blaming Igbos as the progenitors of the problems currently plaguing Nigeria with the typical dumb rhetorics of, "oh Ibos started the trouble we face by carrying out a coup" also forget that they were the pioneers of the first act of political thuggery and violence in Nigerias young history (operation we tie)... they started the primitive acts of dousing their political opponents with raw acid and setting them ablaze... an act of absolute madness that directly or indirectly lead to the boys in Khaki to strike. Thank God a Yoruba man (Wale Ademoyega), a principal actor in the coup wrote a book to set the records straight before he died.

Stupid set of sophisticated mo.rons with sawdust for brains.

Ibo coup plotters and Ironsi destroyed Nigeria. They laid the foundation for what ibos are going through in Nigeria today.
Your anger and name calling will not change anything other than give you some premature grey hair.

Igbochief001:
SMH ....how can a tribe be Killing your people and taking your land for over 200 years ...and u can't even fight back

Reason many Igbo slaves died is because it's better to die than be a slave ...read the igbo landing story

I want to hear story's like ..5000 Fulani cows burnt alive ...500 fulanis killed ...then watch buhari take action to resolve the issue

Igbo landing ko, igbo somersault ni. A beg leave that jingoism for now.

I really feel sorry for these people. How does it feel to be so vulnerable in your own country.

The 2023 election should be turned to 2023 constitutional conference. If not, the next president may unfortunately be the last.

Lijadu sisters.

kingzizzy:
You obviously dont know what you are talking about because every part of a country is for administrative purpose. What matters is what powes the Government at the centre has and what powers the federating units have. If the federating units control their resources, just like Ironsi allowed, it is true federalism. If the government at the centre, or federal government, control the resources just like Gowon allowed, it is unitary rule

Whatever a federation should be, if the federating units do not control the resources on their land, and the federal government takes over their resources, it is no longer a federation

You don't even have a basic knowledge of what federalism is. I will be wasting my time trying to explain anything to you.
According to your logic if the federating units control their resources but the federal government controls every other thing it is federalism. So?
Nigeria became a unitary state with Ironsi's decree 34. You can twist and bend it whichever way you want but that is the fact.

WeRblessed:
Only God knows how God created the Igbos.

The only people in the world that makes imposibilities possible.

Where others go and find no road, an Igbo man/woman will go there and find both roads, doors, and windows open.

Hate them or love them, their blessings know no boundaries.

Ndi Igbo ya gazie unu!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nodU6jz4dhY

Some don't brag about it at all. They just do it.

kingzizzy:
The provincial and Regional leaders are always under someones control even in democracy. What matters is if the provinces and Regions had resource control which allows them to develop, manage and control whatever resources are on their lands and to keep the larger portion of the profits and pay the federal government an agree tax.

True federalism is all about resource control. Ironsi allowed resource control and thats why he couldn't have been the one who introduced unitary rule

Federalism is far more than just resource control. From local and municipal laws to policing and many other things. The Nigerian federalism is a complete farce.

kingzizzy:
Yes, that is Military rule. In Military rule, all appointments are subject to the overall Military leader. Thats why it is not democracy. The important thing here is that because Ironsi did not take away resource control or the revenue sharing formular/fiscal federalism agreed at independence, he did not introduce unitary rule. If the group of provinces, or Regions, still had control of their resources and still paid the agreed tax to the federal government, then there was no unitary rule during Ironsi's time.

Gowon came in and abolished the 4 Regions, created 12 states and took away resource control which made the Federal government too powerful to decide who gets what. Resource control is what decides what is unitary. Gowon introduced unitary rule as soon as he took away resource control away

The regions under Ironsi ceased to be the federating units from the day the decree 4 was enacted. They were there only for administrative reasons. That is all, you need to read up on what a proper federation should be.
You are just harping only on the fiscal aspect of it, a federation is far more than that.

What is wrong with the southern Kaduna people? They need to start defending themselves. All of them will die if they remain passive and wait for the killers unarmed.

nku5:
See them denying, twisting, contorting into weird shapes just to pin Gowon's sins on a dead man. As if people cannot read What type of desperation is this. Shioor

I doubt if many of you can read. The decree is right here on this thread and you are still pretending you can't understand it like it was written in mandarin.

kingzizzy:
You still dont get it. As long as each Region was controlling its resources and keeping the larger share of the proceeds from its lands and paying the government what was agreed as at independence, none of the above matters. Thats what obtained during Ironsi's time. As long as Ironsi did not tamper with resource control and the fiscal policy of the time, and he did not, he could not have been the one who introduced unitary rule

What type of logic is this? Even the provincial/ regional leaders were brought under his control you are talking of resource control! What resource?
What Ironsi created was no longer a federation where you can claim any resource. You and your resources were brought under the FG.

Techie Boar. Probably thinking of creating Boarland. Hushpiggie.

Continued.

Please read it carefully and tell us what you think it means.

Dedetwo:
You wrote it was not written in Chinese. Then I beg you to post the copy. Please do not write about decree # 34. Post it for public mass to read to the level of their comprehensibility.

Here it is, please if you have a different version post it here for everyone to see.

NiceMen:
Yes they do love each other.

Has any of your Yoruba brother, who has never met you physically gift you at least 1M to run business? Imagine that for a second... Someone who has never met you sending you money...

Well my igbo brother has done that for me.

This Mbah is only being vindictive and its just politics at play here.

You must have met and interviewed every Yoruba man and woman to know that they wouldn't help each other with at least 1M naira which is not even a lot of money.
Nigerians of all tribes are doing far more than that for each other. You need to broaden your thinking.

Dedetwo:
Mr. Good Reader, please post the decree # 34 that written in English language. Mind you, not the decree # 34 written by Yari.ba propagandists. I have true and authentic copy of the decree # 34.

There was only one decree 34 issued by Ironsi and that decree abolished the regions and usurped their powers. I don't know which decree 34 you read, but we are talking about Nigeria now not Libya or Liberia or some other countries.

Lipscomb:
You are very very wrong. Innoson products is full of shit.

Perhaps.

Lipscomb:
Not Because igbos don't like themselves.
This is a matter of interest. If you want to buy something for public use buy something that will last longer.

No, it is a matter of destructive competition and ego.

Dedetwo:
Sometimes I wonder if any good thing will ever come out of the shithole called Nigeria. Unification Decree # 34 simply created uniform atmosphere in Nigeria civil servant cadre where level 7 is the same thing all over the federal. Local Authorities had knack to appoint anybody into any position without calibration. The decree # 34 stopped such practice. Th decree had nothing to with government. It is unfortunate Nigeria is a basket of fools otherwise why would one think of unitary government when Aguiyi Ironis had military governors in each regions which in turn gave Ojukwu the impetus to tell Gowon to "Go-to-hell" because Ojukwu did not recognize Gowon as head of the state. Yari.ba peeps shamefully failed to cough and cowardly succumbed to unfounded fear of standing up for something in 1966 hence have decided to chase a silly narrative of fiction instead of fact.

Can't you read? The decree was not written in Chinese.

dignity33:
Aside appointment of military governors of provincial group by National military government and resources control. I see no different from this our present constitution.

Exactly, but radically different from what we negotiated with the British before independence.

They would rather accuse others of not patronizing Ibo businesses. Charity they say begins at home.

Igbochief001:
Primitive people claiming sufisticated lol

Remember in Unn the day I told my guys how I used to sleep in a bus in pH ....they told me u can't try that in yoruba land ooh if not u would be suya

Now I get it

If you are going to be suya then you will be suya. The same Port Harcourt where people are routinely murdered for no apparent reasons? Remember this guy Gracious David-West ? Google Port Harcourt serial killer
Perhaps you want to run away to the north like some of your folks, straight into the arms of some militia men who will promptly dispatch you.
SE nko? Your own home, we know you are far more likely to die there than anywhere else in the country.
If it is your portion to be suya, everywhere is your abattoir.

Much Ado About Nothing.

Hellraiser77:
Ibadan mega slum

One of your pictures is actually Aba..Lol

nairavsdollars:
Sowore is just endangering the lives of these guys. But Buhari should resign

How so? For exercising their rights?

A little girl can no longer eat a banana in peace? You have to be sick to think that is sexual.