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KingEbukaNaija:
The bible condemned slavery . Read here : https://www.nairaland.com/3210816/bible-slavery-answering-ignorant-atheists

Oh, THAT thread. Lol

Stop derailing your own thread . So have now switched from killing to slavery

Apparently , you are desperate

Your comprehension skills still haven't improved. Obviously

KingEbukaNaija:
Pity . Some atheists see nothing wrong in that .

Atheists like who? Share their comments make I dey avoid them abeg

. You no go kill person with laugh

But since its legalized , he is doing the right thing na . Yuck !

He is doing the right thing to THEM o. Na that day him go know say na naija papa him get

. So atheists now need the bible eh . You see why morality without God is madness . I pity Nigerian atheists who will raise atheist families .

Oh, I actually read the bible. But I know what to take serious and what part to throw in the trash.

The bible is actually very useful. In my house, I use the bible to hold doors, tip the fan so it can blow me directly and as rolling paper for my weed. I can proudly tell you that I have smoked Revelations

Meanwhile, you still haven't shared the verse of the bible that condemns bestiality o. Waiting

KingEbukaNaija:
Exactly ! I want to know your opinion - answer + reason . Simple .

It's wrong na. As toto take plenty reach na goat yansh person wan bang?

Ok ... so if it excites your son in a country where it is legalized , will you reprimand him ?

Mehn, prior to that I would have educated him on the side effects of such crap o. Now that I think about it I will probably get him some fresh punanny when he is very young to avoid stories that touch

If he however still goes on to knack our goat I will definitely get angry o. Shuo! Who wan come chop an na

Meanwhile, I was wondering, can you please share the bible verse that condemns bestiality? Just in case I need to show my kid in the future

KingEbukaNaija:
Look bro ,

As a Christian , I know what is right or wrong - moral absolutism is applied in all cases .

Because the bible, old and new testament, says so?

I repudiate expedience as a matter of fact . If a country legalizes a depravity such as homosexuality or bestiality - I deprecate such because I don't need the society to determine what's right or wrong for me . This means if a country legalizes what I consider bad , it does not mean I assent to it or will now change to seeing it as a good thing .

Lol. So if a country has laws against slavery you have the right to keep slaves in that country because your god didn't mention anything about slavery being wrong in the bible, right?

Matthew 5:17 does not address this discussion .

Oh, it does. You say the old testament is not for Christians but Jboy himself says he didn't come to abolish any old law. So, there you go.

Besides, are you really trying to say that Jesus' laws are more valid than Jehovah his father?

I thought they were ONE. How can one thing say this and the same thing say that?

lilmax:
Come carry my hand use am kill person na.


Jobless atheist.


And btw "a fool says in his heart there's no God"

"a fool says in his heart there's no God". This statement was made by the fool who believed in something unproven

You are going to hell for not following the will of your god. See ya

KingEbukaNaija:
The atheist leaders were free to end the lives of 250 million people because they had the discretion to decide who lives or dies . They felt it was right . You see the problem ?

Nope, I do not see it. I speak only for myself and not for them. Atheists do not have a book that guides us. Everyone has the right to his own opinion. If you feel it is okay to kill everyone in your neighborhood, good luck. If the laws in that community is against murder then you are definitely going to face the wrath of the law.

It is like asking me if it is okay to exploit gullible masses like pastorpreneurs do. Or it is okay to kill kids just because you THINK they are witches and because it is written in the bible to do so.

So if you are left to decide , is it right or wrong ?

Personally, I would never indulge. It doesn't excite me.

If someone else derives pleasure from it then that is their business. If the law of the country the person resides in is against it then the government has the right to do whatever punishment they feel is ideal. Capish?

KingEbukaNaija:
This thread is suffused with so much ignorance .

I agree

1. Its called Christianity not Judaism .

Both they both worship the same god Jehovah. How come one god is giving out different laws?

2. There are differences between moral laws , Jewish laws and ceremonial laws .

And Christian laws? Where do they come from?

Again , just like the firing squad eliminates drug dealers in Indonesia or beheading in Arab countries for larceny , those punishments are made strictly for the Jews during that dispensation .

Then why is the old testament in the same bible that Christians use if the laws there are useless?

If you want to attack Christians , do it with knowledge of the subject and not in ignorance

Oh, okay

Here is the ultimate , all unrighteousness is sin

1 John 5:17
All unrighteousness is sin

Who/what is the authority on what is righteous and what is not?

When you talk of morality , you talk what is right or wrong as a Christian or as a human being in general . The punishment for crimes or wickedness is left for your country's laws to decide your comeuppance . Those bible verses are strictly for the Jews during that dispensation

I already tackled this

Tomorrow , I'll still repeat the same thing .

Yeah yeah

So, what you are basically trying to say is that the laws in the old testament are not relevant to a Christian? Right?

KingEbukaNaija:
Feigning ignorance again . Read my post over and over again

It is actually confusing. I read it twice and even Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Lol @

When you talk of morality , you talk what is right or wrong as a Christian or as a human being in general . The punishment for crimes or wickedness is left for your country's laws to decide your comeup

All humans are not under "Christian laws" so morality cannot have a common definition. What might be okay in Nigeria, jailing of homosexuality for instance, doesn't apply in the US where it is okay to be homosexual. Just as jungle justice, the burning of "suspected" thieves(or those caught in the act) is okay in Nigeria but not in the US.

You sef, one moment Christianity is the ultimate basis for morality and next minute The punishment for crimes or wickedness is left for your country's laws

You sound confused bro

KingEbukaNaija:
This thread is suffused with so much ignorance .

1. Its called Christianity not Judaism .

2. There are differences between moral laws , Jewish laws and ceremonial laws .

Again , just like the firing squad eliminates drug dealers in Indonesia or beheading in Arab countries for larceny , those punishments are made strictly for the Jews during that dispensation .

If you want to attack Christians , do it with knowledge of the subject and not in ignorance

Here is the ultimate , all unrighteousness is sin

1 John 5:17
All unrighteousness is sin

When you talk of morality , you talk what is right or wrong as a Christian or as a human being in general . The punishment for crimes or wickedness is left for your country's laws to decide your comeuppance . Those bible verses are strictly for the Jews during that dispensation .

Tomorrow , I'll still repeat the same thing .

Bleepyou:
How many people dey don kill?
All these things na old testament na
Jesus don use grace erase all those stuff i guess
Well Christians make una con ansa....
Buh guy
Wetyn concern you sef
Face your atheism
Let them face their Christianity
Let Muslim face their islam

Wait wait, I do not understand what you guys mean o.

Wasn't it the same Jehovah in the old testament that is in the new testament?

HardMirror:
The bible ONLY condemns bestiality, it NEVER gave a reason. Just the same way God never gave reason why we should not wear mixed fabric or cut our hair and beards in certain ways.
If homosexuality or bestiality is for pleasure, how is that supposed to be the responsibility of an atheist to determine if it is right or wrong. If I could derive pleasure exclusively from animals then I would do it. But as I said earlier, I don't find them attractive, the society frowns at it, there could be health risks. If others do it, it's not a problem for me, neither will it stop me from associating with such persons

Gbam. What kingebukajaina, winner01 etc have failed to realize is that as an atheist I am free to decide what is right or wrong and I also give that right to other people. If you want to bang a goat, good for you. I do not find it exciting personally and I am not one to concern myself with what other people do with their own PRIVATE time

Besides, Islam supports bestiality and they are theists

5minsmadness:
Hahn, na your parole be dis?
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Nairaland Christians have taken it upon themselves to prove to everyone else, especially atheists like myself, that the bible is a basis for morality and that their god, Jehovah, alone can determine what is right or wrong. In summary, whatever their god says is right is right and whatever he commands should be taken hook, line and sinker.

As an atheist, I was just wondering, do Christians really do EVERYTHING their god tells them to? Like:

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

I am sure this applies to all atheists and every everyone else who doesn't believe in Jesus.

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

I am sure you all remember that pastor that featured on fp a while back. In case you missed it, you can check the thread out @ https://www.nairaland.com/3234800/gary-foxcroft-saving-witches-akwa-ibom/

Apparently, this guy is actually following the words of Jehovah

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

This one should be easy. We already have case of Nigerians beating up Suspected homosexuals. What about you?

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

This one nko?

Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Oh, I so much love this one. In this "modern world" there are so many women who have lost their virginity before marriage. How many have you burnt?

Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

How many Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus etc have you killed today?

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Oh dear, should I be scared of kingebukanaija and winner01?

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

All you need to do is attend a wedding ceremony on Saturday and get with it. God is behind you

etc

You can check for more reasons to kill sinners @ https://www.nairaland.com/2819877/murder-bible and start with your neighbor

So, share your murder stories, as directed by your god Jehovah with us

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5minsmadness:
How much will it cost to design, host a website for a year?

What kind of website? What features will be on the site?

winner01:
We strive to be like Christ because He set a perfect standard.
Why do you want imperfect people to stop looking up to a standard of perfection.

No matter your desperation and epistles, we know we are not perfect, and we wont stop trying to attain perfection like Christ commanded.

Useless to you. Why do you need God to be useless in the lives of others.
If you were once unfortunate and blamed it on God, dont think you can make other people who make God a vital part of their lives share in your woes.

All the nonsense you quotes is what you desperately want to be true and not the truth. We've dealt with most of the crap you put up there.

Innocent people are raped and killed blah blah blah. It is consistent with scriptures. Evil exists and thats the reality.
Wish God away all you want while you still have the strength.

Evil exists because your god wants it too.

Period

dalaman:
It is true, despite all the christians claims non of then cam live the life Jesus outlined in the bible because it is impossible. It is just like the promise Jesus gave and promise those that believe in him, no christian can demonstrate it because it is a mythical promise. No christian can live or do what Jesus said because it is impossible. If it were possible we will see Christians living the life since it's impossible no christian can do it. You winner01 can not live the live Jesus told people to live in the bible, you can not demonstrate any of the things he promised you. You can't do it because it's mythical.

I go half the day winner01 indulges in a reasonable discussion. I really do not understand why theists put themselves through so much stress.

Why bother subjecting yourself to a life of rules you cannot reasonably live by?

They claim the bible is god's word but can't live by it's guidelines. When you through some verses about wealth and paradise in the afterlife they will "claim it" but when you tell them about stoning people who work on Sundays, or killing your wife because she is not a virgin on your wedding night, they will tell you that you need the holy spirit to understand the verse.

It is intellectual dishonesty. The willingness to subject yourself to slavery/subjugation, the unwillingness to think for yourself and have goat herders 2,000 years ago think and justify morality on your behalf, the yearning for constant surveillance by an imaginary being who watches and will punish you for wan.king but watches innocent women being raped and kids dying daily and does nothing about it but expects us to believe it is working in "mysterious ways" etc. It is this kind of thinking that holds us back as a specie.

Man does not need god to interfere in our daily activity because it's presence is obviously useless

fearlesschicken:
Thanks Hahn

I feel the thread

Don’t shield your mind off to contradictory evidence. Even if you don’t accept it, it will still benefit your subconscious.

This will only work with people who want to learn. Most people are more concerned about winning an argument

IffaCatchYouEhn:
Haba.


Na Mayflower you spend all your half of ur lifetime

When I first joined

I saw little kids and I was like JESU

I tire for some parents sha.

I got there in primary 4.

Some kids were there from Primary one special

Nuff' ewa and Indian pape

winner01:
Yeah mehn. Long time. I was banned for nothing. or maybe for obvious reasons.

And I wish your memes were brain tasking and not so cheap.

1. God created hell for the devil and his demons, not for man. You choose hell by rejecting God. It just the same way you choose failure by rejecting to prepare for exams. No one forces failure on another. It is the consequence of an action

2. Jesus actually died for our sins. And it will do you a lot of good to embrace Him while His arms are yet wide open.

3. This is a bit funny cos the lips that pray are also the hands that help and are still helping, and I can give innumerable proof of these hands.

4. Well, God created the devil. How and why the seed of evil germinated in lucifer, we may never fully understand. And so technically we can say God created evil. It is still not enough reason for you to wish God did not exist.


Your memes are weak and getting stale.
God help you.

Lol. I am simply imitating your posting of dumb memes too. I am glad you feel that way about them
Lucifer help you too

IffaCatchYouEhn:


12654

I hail oooh

12654 Senior Secondary School

9741 Junior Secondary School

winner01:
If you were not in such a hurry to reply, i believe you would have come up with something much better than this.

Long time

Weah96:
Who pushes drug in front of law enforcement? Every drug dealer conceals his activities from the police.

That's the point. Human beings NATURALLY hide illegal activities from the police. We still break laws, but ONLY because the POLICE don't have cameras EVERYWHERE.

The bible god has CAMERAS everywhere and yet every Christian SINS.

The god cannot be real because no one fears or respects it. Every lie you tell is like flirting with a mandatory death sentence in a burning fire.

You won't disobey ordinary human police in their faces, but I'm expected to believe that you spoke to the creator of the universe and yet still disobey him. Can you hide from the creator as you can hide from the police too? Otherwise, you might as well smoke your igbo at the precinct too

Lol.

What will members of the NCAN make of this?

Ishilove:
You're right. Funny thing is offline they can't look you in the face. The internet gives agama lizards avenue to transform into snapping crocodiles.

Na fight?

IffaCatchYouEhn:
Guy Na fight

22744
B3 up

Lol.

12654

B3up

I was there when Papa was the warden.

Angel 7

A.D.O

Premature ex-may though

KingEbukaNaija:
Because Christ was morally good .



Your sauce did not taste anything like Jesus being on the name of a slave ship or Christians being the first slave traders in Africa . In fact , the first slave traders in Africa were Africans themselves - the Barbary slave trade - where white Europeans were enslaved by North Africans .



Bro , because a pastor commits despicable crimes against humanity does not imply that Christianity assents to that .



That's Judaism not Christianity . That's what happens when they won't attend good Church , attending road side churches or being taught the word by bling preachers is very pernicious to one's mental state .



Jungle Justice is barbaric and those that do that are mere illiterates . The illiterates are preponderant in this country . They kill delinquents and people who commit larceny but the politicians who peculate public funds and subject them to abject poverty or adversities are walking free in their own streets !

"Who that is without sin among you , should cast the first stone ... " - Christ said it



Being religious does not imply godliness . Christ even rejected religion .

At bolded, in your opinion which of the 33,000 Christian denominations is the best?

IffaCatchYouEhn:
[size=13pt]I remember back then in my boarding school, (Mayflower school ikenne)
When me and my friends hear that one MRS KOI KOI is cominq (they said she's looking for her 2nd shoe.

We would start praying like[/size]

O Lord pls let her visit another school.

And na me dey sleep near the Main entrance

Hold it! What is your student number? Which hostel were you in?

Weah96:
I love ignorant women like you. Please don't allow my honesty to bother you. But after reading your comment, I feel like fornicating with you (in my Mike Tyson voice).

"I usually don't talk to women unless I fornicate with them. So don't talk unless you wanna....You know"- Mike Tyson

KingEbukaNaija:
Hahn , stop lying ! The missionaries were Catholics . You don forget ? They commit peccadilloes and believe it would be forgiven after they die and then vaporate into Heaven . With that apparent pretext , you have been given the carte blanche .



Come on bro !

For it is written

Matthew 7:21-23 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

False prophets also use the name of Christ to finagle cash from credulous people . Some use the name of Christ to inveigle you into doing something you don't want to do .

But can you adduce anything as proof for your claim ? Its a widespread belief that name of Christ was used to enslave Africans - that is certainly preposterous . How was that even possible ? Care to explain with proof of course .

So, when people do good it is in the name of Christ.

When they do bad in the name of Christ, they are false prophets.

Lol. How convenient

Unless you are trying to be intellectual dishonest, you cannot argue that Christians were the first slave traders in Africa. In fact, Jesus is the name of the first slave ship to reach the borders of Africa

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave_ship

What about the current killing and stigmatizing of children by that pastor in Akwa Ibom? I noticed you ignored that thread even though it was on fp and I mentioned your other moniker.

What about old women who are accused of being witches and summarily beaten up due to Christian doctrine?

What about Christians who beat up and burn thieves here in Nigeria?

What about corrupt officials who loot public funds? They are mostly Christians or Muslims?

KingEbukaNaija:
Catholicism !

Lol. The slave traders that invaded Africa and shipped out forefathers to the US were mainly protestants though.

Regardless, the Spanish inquisition and crusades were carried out in the name of Christ

Agreed?