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Above all they have a right to group and work on a common intrest that affects them.like how the people of the ND strongly oppose the nomination of ibrahim gambari.if it does not look good then yes they should oppose it.lastly i only hope our political leaders in naija know what is good to encourage and what is bad to oppose.they represent a people and the ministers are still a people from there area.if they are victimized, they should stand for them but, when they fail they should also know when to ask for replacement (as to do damage control).

mmhhhhh !!!! please learn to identify people with there names and not region as it will go a long way in helping us recover.CALL names of people . na why parents take time choose name give people, so you don't mix them up with others .

okay,anyboby else. if we no fit sell NITEL make we dash somebody for naija now, after sometime make e pay the money.

The TOPIC is sad.i see more reason he lost .Wrong reason at the wrong time!

i really think he has lost his memory,i know because the signs are there.Addressing BBC instead of NTA.speaking to his family when he should be sending a letter to the house of assembly.i do think he has forgotten who he is at the least!

Abeg e don do like that naija!wetin! wetin! wetin! na for our head bads originate?

my brother if you defend such corrupt people it will make me feel, it will take forever to get crediable people in naija .got it during Abacha? ha who did he betray or screw to get the allocation .Was it suppose to be alocated to him for a fee?did he bid?please don't say a crook stealing the countries resources and enriching himself and spend an amount he decides to disclose is right.how about during Obj? what did he get for his service?funny how people fall for small cheap polish work .
let me prefer a just way.he should go to the governement and submit the money all, not the one he choose to spare and then account to EFCC what he did to get it.so the accomplice can get accused and jailed.he could be granted light sentence for his co-operation with crediable information.After which he should only que up for his pension in abuja .that is his legitimate money from the people.
person thief your money #1B, only one man out of 150m.you expect PHCN to work and for naija to progress.kai ! MEND this one fit solve una NDDC outstanding allocation.!

All we ask for is result and vision!!!!! not secret meetings.nothing is close door about naija only that shameless people feel it is closed.we see and know about your plans.no close door - FOI bill please make haste.They know they can't take the heat if they talk to the masses.

@Kx
yes alot of good will come out of the North.your own region or place also has alot of bad things in it.good or bad all reside in naija.so maybe you want to keep that away.

Advice Goodluck, becarefull! cos if i was you, a VP you can control will be alot better and a military that respect your seat,not respect your vice.Obj and Atiku na similar case until.you can't have a rival in power take it or leave it is a requirement to keep things your own way especially if you have good plans.

hold it ,hold it!!! where is our light,where is our roads, where are our industries? Please spare us. can this old people go back to the farm to retire peacefully.Okay all this people mentioned, what have they done to the north or contributed to the north outside corruption?can they please go queitly as we need people from today and the future not those who have wasted there chance more than twice to fix same problem.TY danjuma not an option.please help us northern elite vote someone that will deliver.TY Danjuma may not be too loyal as you can ask Obj?About religion? now we need quality leadership more than human personal profile.
Abeg help us.
lastly what is it they asked him to deliver?i mean to the region and Naija!did he say yes i can and did he suggest ways to do that.if all is no, then please look for another person.We all know he is a quiet big corrupt leader of northern extract.where did he get alot of investment more than his salary can carry?the Oil blocks and co?How many lives has he touched?about keeping the military in check,if he can keep it in check?please it is the will of the people that keeps the military in check not him.Soldier no be person?it is time we identify corrupt people and shame them so that there money cannot buy them friends.they should start to see that it is about service and touching lifes.Obj and TY na paddy paddy.it all seems like he is trying to get one of his boys back on track.
Goodluck focus and work.the VP no be your priority now.na light,road,security and money for people pocket.

cool topic.like you rightly said when i also first set foot on the soils of plateau it was all too fine to be real.first visit was 1988 and man it was terribly freezing and you could actually think it was a ghost town at night.largely due to the cold weather.people were home and getting all the heat they could get.the sound of air blowing outside.you could make friends anywhere and when you don't feel like it you could be invincible.people hardly mind who you are and people rarely bother you.really peace.when an incident of injury or rare case of death occur it was alot of news.
   Now this people who were together want to fight and kill themselves to a stand still.to change anything, you have to cure the wounded hearts and to mend the gap that is filled with tonnes of hate and murder.i hear reconcilation is in place but, news coming from people i know still say people are relocating,isolating and preparing for the worst.communities clearing minority rivals and all that.how can you guarantee harmony remains a dream than ever as long as they can not blend and feel free to be around each other. I also disagree that it was when a tribe came that things went wrong.rather it is when people began to feel isolated for various reasons.we hope it will change someday.
    Above all rumours and propaganda against each other to make themselves feel like victims and instigate further support not in recouncilation but so called advantage during violence is predominant.i tell you in jos all you need for a fight is just identify who and who is arguing.if they are from the opposing side of the divide, it hardly takes long before rumours set in and treat of violence emerge.I pray for peace in Nigeria and any place that continues to withness conflicts globally.sincerely you guys need to talk from the hearts with utmost sincerity and reach a peace condition of mutual respect for the other.even thought i don't see that happening yet and i know you all are waiting to fight yet again.telling more lies to get more fighters for each other.when you start spreading the good news of geninue peace then we will know change has come.Not when in public you cry am the victim,i want peace and in private,place of worship all you say were victorious over them and murdered a number and distroyed this and that.remember someday we all will be judged for how we lived and for how we have touched peoples lives.
 Shame on you people of Jos for the peace you all have thrown away and denied yourself peace !!!!

As usual the story will continue to change ,.i know for sure you are also here with your version of the tale to gain supports,just like the others before you and after you .Please you guys should spare us the stories.it has pasted as usual with a possible twisted tale and finding.Maybe you should focus on making lasting peace.not the type you pretend to hold and then secret continue to instigate, target,propagate hate and then arm yourself for a would be genocide when available .grow up guys.make real peace.forget the stories, the lies, the government,the killing,the destruction and look for away to promote harmony .You both hate each other.what you don't know is that it is a war that will never reach it's objective.you can't kill them all.they will still remain on your lands.it hurts but you can't help it.look for a peaceful way of integrating each other and find a way to teach one another about how to live togther.FORGET the VIOLENCE!! it is not an answer.

Abi! the poster said muslims and all they know is the North region.Please when will this finish.the alarm you are raising i got it like 3Weeks back and NAFDAC never complain yet.haba not to forget say lie na sin.rumour dey worst.Okay a real treat-do you know alot of your food comes from the North especially grains we should just increase the pesticide used for storage and make sure it gets to you .A real life scenario if you most know .just joking ,but you should know i find that a cowardly way of doing anything and will not encourage so.worst enemies in the world still share goods and yet hardly are posioned en mass.RUMOUR RUMOUR RUMOUR.regardles of war trade remains vital.before now we were already dying from our own people giving us sub-standard because of money.same caution you apply in the safety of what ever you consume in naija remains a good and fair advice.Sub-standard,fake,expired or poison. same effect and same source-naija environment .

Okay more history with all the bias details and tribalism coming up!

naija for real.

if it will solve the problem YES

okay,how do i know it is not another bias gist.the district head need not be informed someone that had his property burnt will choose to re-build or sell it .As the district head should be ashamed of himself allowing it happen before and happen again in his domain .Also since it is not under any court injunction or law forbiding the development of his property ,he had a right to work on his property .Also where is JMDB.only of cause if the district head needed to encourage disharmony amongst people.this district heads know alot and also pretend alot.if someone was on his plot i believe it will only take 30mins for him to know and show up .

@ shoot2kill
It is a nice vision but i don't know how you could tell someone that believes all of you regardless gang up to kill his people or gang up to make sure he remains deprived forever.i have never done any such thing in my entire existance but here i am,accused and judged as such.you know it feels safe to be with someone, you know rarely habors any hate against you.i have being to the ND and seen the enviromental damage,i have also seen the similar impoverished places there.i wish every where could be developed but when some people come and accuse me of being the cause.it will be difficult to trust or pursuit his course knowing he may even take it for something else.
Taking a look at resource control i know that if the ND gets resource control 100%, it will help people in the North see just how the political Elite has looted the states and deprived it of any economic development.industires and economic projects have colapsed because all they see is even if we don't work allocation will cover.i hate people in power and certainly also hate people that hate me.if we really have a common focus and good idea towards blocking anyone without vision for the country,then i stand ready to work with such group or persons.
Let the northern Elite do something from the North not always look beyond as that has being the killing factor.All those sick leaders i wish there is a way we can get them crying everyday.imagine someone in a state with no revenue concentrating on building house of assembly and Governement house to get his wife one office.com'on what is the logical return on investment for that.tomorrow he will say allocation is down.why not creat a revenue earner.solid minerals and agriculture could atleast manage affairs of some state but they choose to wake up in the morning and do silly useless projects.

EzeUche:
I can't stand IBB or any other northerner. They make me sick!!!

Break Nigeria up now!!!

Thank you sir,i can't stand Obj and southerners.you make me sick.

lets fight some more then break up.
brother i don't like you tooo!

Na us o! Na us Arewa :oo,we infiltrate the group MEND and split it in two and hope to finance the other group with the same pillage money we got from there .Okay our initial plan was to buy MEND on the stock exchange but it did not work because sanusi no do em work .i even know gbomo jomo na my paddy paddy,he gets 3m monthly for using the internet to drive the west for us courtesy ACF .
Guys grow up and stop chasing yourself up and down with lies and falsehood.look within and all the answers stir you in the face .if only you go throught ethics of having a group,you will know that differences in views could always bring issues.if they can't find reason to join on issues that intrest the main group they may split.
Another thing that is clear is this will come and alot of groups may even emerge.okay like hamas and fatah- foe israel.Iraq shittes and kurdish-foe sadam.pyrates confraternity and the preceeding cult group with different ideas about doing more for the group.so MEND will die someday while Nigeria is together or split.both ways she will not live forever.the group was based on an objective which if meet will end or weaken her stance and relevance. deal with it.it will be logical for her to gain significancy without modifying to trends around her.ND people help urself if it means using violence but don't blame anyone.Military and police are made up of all ethnic backgrounds.recently they are headed at the top by ND.so if they rape una, kill una,we all know how our military dey,who have they ever spared anyone during operations.na boko haram,katsina Ala or Jos.so learn to reason and prefer solutions than gaining a masters in blaming while sitting on your tonnes of wrong deeds.Advice on the military atrocities just no let them come in the first place cos when they come things just go human rightly wrong.

yes with another high tech magu magu!

God Will Judge Us the Way We Judge Others (7:1-2)


keep digging your way to hell as you clearly see this is a clear action meant to provoke, degrade and insult muslims and nothing more.As clearly stated in the bible you know well,all have questions to answer for your continous judgement and deliberate actions to hurt the feelings of others.

you seeeeeeeeeeeee! kai naija.all we have to do is to make sure all opinions and comments in naija are screened by all ethnic groups before it is posted (my recommendation).about the killing of igbos,it is sad but all atrocities happen during war time.casualty was high on the igbo side causing all the comments from the igbo people.if it was the reverse then i know they would have being quiet.
WAR is NO GOOD and when it happens people die for real.it is an issue of survival for both-to kill or be killed.raise your voice against violence.my advice to the igbo like someone rightly said, move on with your life be economically and politically relevant.Okay about gowon and Adekunle it is not issue of slave and master, it is an issue of being heros to there people.you may hate them but to others if not for them,we could have being victims to the igbos.Ojukwu your man!

JS 10:40
"So Joshua defeated the whole land , ; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded."

hurrible hurrible hurrible.that is in the bible tooo!God the all Loving.stop pretending knowing even in your books ur god sanctioned killings at a point in time.

JS 8:22-25
"With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped. "


NU 31:31-40
32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord.

sacrificed 32 to there god,question is was God asking for the virgins blood.joshua killing women and men to ensure non survived sounds like genocide to me.

may be you get small beef with them as i don't see any reason we should cut diplomatic ties.from the point you are giving.yar adua went there for treatment not by force.voluntary.if you have a quarrel it should be with your man Yar dua. .if we get anyone to cut ties with or attack it should be cameroon,over our people in bakassi.deal with some gerdame.they continune to kill and mess naija boys up.MEND una no go do small staunts there so.

well! IBB na person with both political and military relevance and if anyone needed a key to some political elements whether you like it or not he becomes relevant to them. don't forget no permenant foe or friend when it comes to the west.think of it, they will dine with the devil if it will give them what they desire.question is what do they want and at what cost to us?naturally what they want may not kill us but keep us always good old under developed.

edoyad:
Ndu chuks where are you from na ? I have already told you that i am southern kaduna descent, middle belt by birth till death. I know beaf and ibime are from the Niger Delta, tpia is an iyawo, mekusx na stubborn Ndigbo, what about you ? Are you hiding something ?
When you finally reveal where you're from, tell us if you have a senator born in another part of the country representing your state/senatorial district ? If you have none, then learn from the middle belt that is a melting pot and home to all and sundry. Is there a single tribe that makes up the Niger delta ? No. Is there a single tribe that makes up the middle belt ? No . These areas have got what we call minority tribes with almost similar cultures. So an Ibibio man would naturally feel comfortable being associated with an Okrika man the same way a berom man would feel at home in the presence of an idoma man.
If you want more material say so and I'll post it for you.

nice to meet you kaduna man of middle belt origin .what of your real name , phone number and home address .ndu chuks maybe you want to give him such details. so he knows if he should hate you as for being a northerner or be puzzled you are not from the north entirely.
please look deeper in to conflicts in not just the North but nigeria.before all this nonsense what were the blood letting about.land,arguments between clans name it.humans fight for alot of reason-intrest .people group along common intrest ,sometimes even against others.you and others are doing this because above all your leaders need a piece of the cake.when you get it and they leavse you alone then someone else becomes the next foe.human nature.whether a senator or not.i don't know in your village which is most closes to you, how many times have you nominated a senator from southern nigeria? abi non of them dey eligible or reside there.maybe you want to remove the log in your eye first b4 you continue.
Encourage us by starting in your village moving up.don't extend your boundries to north east, deal with your immediate environment.how many times in your existance as a southern kaduna person have you nominated a southern nigerian as Governor,senator etc?you are as bad as they are.!Adamawa you are a good a example.we cherish what you have done.as much as you could lay claim by religion, i could lay by region, proximity and lot much more.we have a strong history with the numan people trade and alot more.i don't know outside the middle belt dream if you ever share direct contact with them.i respect the bachamas.they have every right to be happy they did something almost impossible.i won't claim there sweat.
An exampple while i was in Jos in my area we had normal primaries for elcetions to my greatest surprise,they tell you lets command numbers by uniting under religion voting our own.after all that, when they pass the critical huddles they just remind you that is all you are good for and then dump you for the indigene concept and greed. ask others there in Jos?is that hausa runs too or igbo or yoruba?It is in us all.you have non to show i don't but we could change all that.the post is to draw attention to the level of progress not claim terrritory.Stop the blaming game do something for the middle for the north for the Nok people for naija.

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@hakanai learn to use paragraphs in your write ups next time, it will help one understand you better. Anyways thank you for your advice, but my question still stands,"on whose ticket is Shade in the senate today ?" . She replaced one man called Jonathan Zwingina from Adamawa south, didn't she ? Okay here's the thing, if ndu chuks is coming to NL to tell other yorubas to reciprocate by voting other people into the senate cos the "NORTH" has voted their daughter into NASS, why didn't he tell his hausa chaps to do the same ? My assignment to you is simple, go and bring an example of hausa people voting a man or woman from another part of the country to represent them in the senate, how hard is that ? As for Folashade Jackson Bent, wife of major Jackson Bent of Adamawa south senatorial district, she was voted in by middle belters.
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@edoyad
i know that the next you maybe asking from where?i am another minority in the North seen as less than them.like they said simply you are non hausa fulani northerner/middle belter as naming is not a remedy.if that will solve the differences that you brew.maybe when you talk north you may also want to know the large different ethnic tribes that reside there.i am from southern Borno and a minority,we have never being allowed to Govern ,because the kanuris who are not hausa also think they are better leaders.same in most typical Northern states,that i know.

for the hausas you have never helped issues (i know it is not all of you but a large fraction) are arrogant,lack consideration for others greatly.Learn to share and respect others amongst you and you will be better.edoyad i know how you feel being treated like being nothing.standing up is not by dividing is by building support and friends.don't hate others while you love only yourself.we are proud,that in nigeria a senator from the west is taking a position from another area (north east) which is away from her place of origin.rendering service to her new found friends.maybe you should try that.it is better than hating. .
edoyad how you wish it was your place so you could take credit,the reason you try to prove your relevance to the glory by identifying it as middle even when it is so North-eastern.anyway thank you for reminding us that everyone wish he was a large dominating tribe like the igbo,hausa,fulani,yoruba,kanuri and co. so he could make others less.Brother fairness,equality and unity is what is important even where your tribe na just a room all dey.for now lets simply dream when people like you dey talk.i also never saw your "middle belt region" sign post around that area,are u short of funds or staff to crest it middle belt.
sorry if i may have provoked anyone.we all are to blame.the easy way is saying someone is responsible for your woes(rarely a start to the solutions).start building something in your place and resissting bad leadership.Igbos are a good example they hardly talk but just build.even after the war they are still better.please ACF give south south there oil revenue 100%.let those Governors in the north work something for them to steal from.they just wait for alocation and waste it in stupid projects.build industries make people work then steal the revenue if you like.about my grammer ,thank God u still understand.essence of the communication achieved!thanks for the correction anyway.[quote author=edoyad

@edoyad
it is really sad you continue to derail the issue here.typical of people like you when the going gets good you wish to be remembered as someone who belongs or better still claim such areas.while when things get rough or bad you jump to the other while pushing it to the others.Okay u brought a history that simply illustrate your prostitute like attitude.you are not better southern,Northern or middle belter.you see being realistic is good.amongst the middle belt you still have muslims.i know it hurts but it is difficult to believe.the so called core north has christians and same applies.while you are there creating imaginary boundaries and divide you should have set your thoughts on equality,fairness for all and unity afterwards.while you claim and castigate others you are just a typical example of another minority hoping to make itself a majority at the expense of another minority(muslims in the middlebelt.).foolishly why middlebelt and the greater North - south issue continues to linger is simply who gets to be at the top.you have spoken against the almajirais you are the christain equivalent.same hate,same arrogance, same wish to anihalate another when the chance is available.what you habor in your hearts can never bring lasting peace.Also politically you talk of middle belt supporting the south,silly old you.what you are forgetting is the parties that have done better to keep that unity and blend (eg PDP) reason parties like ANPP,AD APGA fail in other regions.a tree does not make a forest.as much as the so called core not needs your support,you need them too once in a while as we all know very well.you sing am with you when you meet them or see them in positions that could benefit you. Above all my view is stop the divide and look at the issues.after you split into the middle belt does it automatically solve other tribal issues there too.i think as a northerner you are not majority in the middle belt.automatically the TIVs become domanant.sorry to say but they also have a dominating history if you may know etc alot of other tribes there too do.typically check TIVs and Idoma.for how long have they being like that.almost same with Nasarawa Muslim and christian,same with Kogi Igala and others, palteau Jang and berom agent to dominate other tribes in plateauso when the core north is gone then what (a common foe is gone who is next), wake up and ask for equality,rights and fairnessas that may last long for you.for people who have lost there life in Nigeria innocently God have mercy.Those who have sponsored and condone such may God judge them accordingly.to my Igbo brothers you Have remain victims in this country and any day you command my respect.may God make you prevail over all odds.unity is important for you people.You most also learn to be nationalistic to apppeal to other tribes.don't show distaste for others.you could have friends and well wishers amongst them build on that.To me the south West is the best form of unity you can have in Nigeria and a pretty good example of harmony in religion.my northern brothers wake up the leaders are visionless amke them creat job and educate peopl