₦airaland Forum

Imagine. You threaten to kill the president of a sovereign country yet you claim to be a peaceful group. And you expect the citizens and military of this sovereign country not to deal with such enemies of the state appropriately as expected from every sovereign state?
Ipobs and their supporters are really foolish

Beautiful country. When we take pictures of maitama,asokoro, banana island,lekki,VI, parts of marina, cetral district abuja, garki, and post them over here. One we also wonder if people are truly suffering in nigeria.dont be decived with pictures everybody celebrate the good in their country while conxealing the bad from the world to see except nigerians that does the exact opposite.
Before I forget I need to say that beautiful or not we "aint accepting algeria to ecowas"

Nigerians are just sooo irrational. Children misbehave a lot, at 3 years there is noting wrong to tell someone to bring you water. Instead of debating on whether dogs drink or lick water na day bad mouth a 3 years old child that is yet to know she is existing cause non of us here can remember our activities when we were three years old.
Obviously from the conversation both the child and chisom are leaving happily thus the reason they are debating in the first place.
@ op..your child shows early signs of intelligence, develop her even more,keep family issues away from social media so that unmarried frustrated adults that don't know the value of marriage,children or family wont bad mouth yours. And I advice you not to respond to any if them. All those shouting morals here mostly have undisciplined wards. Every person is suddenly a saint on social media

suddenly every woman in the US now claims to be sexually harassed. :bloody hypocrites

MirJay:
I have d feeling that this mallam wanna recruit Alfas and imams into the educational sector of Kaduna state.s

Humm..I have a feeling some people are just meant to be everly stewpid.
You have failed to realised 65 to 70 percent of the teachers sacked are from northern kaduna and zazzau axis (zaria) where 98 percent are hausa muslims the major contributors to el rufai electoral victory.smh

Dia father. Who tell them pmb need their vote to win

AlBaqir:
# Sometimes, I wonder how people like you feel comfortable calling yourselves followers of Islam when the religion warned you against lying, ill-manner etc.

For a fact, here's your first comment where you open up with an insult:


# And we have exposed all the copy-paste fatawa of your Ibn Uthaymeen et al and discovered it is you that have comprehension problem, that those shuyukh made clear conditions on their rulings.

# As if that is not enough, you also have audacity to accuse people:


# Alhamdulillah, the moment you met a reasoning stronger than your "lug-ga", you never disappointed by responding with what people like you know how to do best - Insulting and insulting and insulting:


* Don't you have manners at all?!

Keep finding faults instead of debating the point.copy or paste offcourse our understanding of the sharia is based as it is understood by the companions and those who follow their path. Our guided scholars of sunnah inclusive thus am not expected to be giving blind meanings to the quran as even during the time of the companions some of them are known to have better understanding if the tafsir of quran than others, and the others go to learn from them.
Ignorance is not an insult but a word describing someone who know noting about an issue. You can quote all you want but on the issue of ring for a muslim woman, permitung a culture known to non muslims and that has become a symbol of marriage for non muslims in nigeria..telling a muslima to engage in it is noting but pure jahiliya. I might not have manners but You are a JAHIL thats the fact here. May Allah guide you

AlBaqir:
# You are the ignoramus here. Is Jihad not part of religion? Why don't you continue to fight with horse, sword and arrow while your Kuffar opponent are using guns, armoured tank and all modern artillery manufactured by Kuffar.

I have realised its a waste of time to engage in a meaningful discussion with an insulting uncut,low iq individual like you. I shall quote you no more nor shall I try to reason with you as i have noticed all you want is to win the argument not to get educated by what you dont know. I have better things to do with my time

[quote author=begwong post=62034157][/quote]Lol may Allah guide you. If only you knew the consequence of calling a muslim kafir.
Anyway noting is unexpected from an ignorant person. I have giving the op evidence from quran and sunnah for the questioned ask. Its up to him to act on guidance or self desire. Our hisab is with Allah afterall

What people don't understand here is that marriage is part of the deen, its an aspect of the religion thus emphasising on what islam didn't bring to be part of it constitute innovation expecially if it involve a culture known historically to be associated with non muslims cultures,. Even the church stole its from pagans...

[quote author=Shafiiimran99 post=62040554][/quote]Because it has noting to do with religion, marriage is a part of islamic way of life thus everything about must be viewed in the light of islam. Deceive yourself you may but ring is a culture of non muslims peculiar to christains europeans or not. You can paint it all you want the truth remains the truth.
Finally for those quoting me that I said its haram.., I have not said such in all of my statements but I have mentioned that anyone that copies the ways of dis believers would be raised with them. Finally I would categorically mention here that wearing ring in it self is not haram as its sunnah to wear bronze (azirfa) precisely making sure you avoid gold or gold plaited rings expecially for men. "But wearing a ring as a symbol of marriage constitute bidia as marriage is part of the religion and in the least constitute imitation of non muslim cultures" this is my view to the best of my knowledge. Those mentioning guns,pants,suits are just ignorant of what bidia means in sharia and not in lug-ga (language). Above all Allah knows best

AlBaqir:
Surah Al-Hujraat, Verse 12:

"O you who believe! avoid most of suspicion, for surely suspicion in some cases is a sin, and do not spy nor let some of you backbite others. Does one of you like to eat the FLESH of his dead brother? But you abhor it; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, surely Allah is Oft-returning (to mercy), Merciful."

It is generally accepted that only cannibals and animals eat human flesh; hence, Qur'an present it in a rhetoric question.




# @underline, so how's wedding ring a matter of "imitation in religious rituals and acts of worship"?

# Islam doesn't go against culture exchange among people of cultural differences so long it is not a sinful act that Islam specifically condemned.

# For a fact, there are lots of things Nabi met the Arabs doing being part of their culture yet he never cancelled it. He only changed things that oppose Islamic beliefs.





# So what do you understand by the hadith?

Islam goes against certain cultures as long as its peculiar to non muslims or has a kufristic roots. Get your facts right. You have been blabbing without evidence. Islam went against jahilliya arab practices, so its not an issie of culture but tenets of the faith. Am done quoting you. Ure not forced to believe

madridguy:
I'm not here to appeal the minds anyone but to open the eyes of the extremist seeing everything good as against Islam.

So wearing ring has suddenly become good. Because ? Of what exactly? Keep deceiving your self bro. I pray Allah guide you. Everything good is encouraged by islam. Ring is a pagan culture alien ti islam and we have been discouraged by your leader tge rasool to desist from practicing cultures peculiar to non muslims. A word is enough

[quote author=begwong post=62034157][/quote]Lol may Allah guide you. If only you knew the consequence of calling a muslim kafir.
Anyway noting is unexpected from an ignorant person. I have giving the op evidence from quran and sunnah for the questioned ask. Its up to him to act on guidance or self desire. Our hisab is with Allah afterall

AlBaqir:
For anything to be tag Haram in Islam, Quran or Rasul must have declared it Haram exclusively. Kindly show us a single verse or a single Hadith (even if it is weak Hadith) that specifically say "wedding ring" is haram. Thanks

This is epic..kindly tell us in the entire quran or hadith that forbade us from eating human flesh...

There are three sources of legislation in islam,
The quran, sunnah and fiqh on issues based on sunna as extablish by the companions.
That been said the issue of ring is clearly a non islamic culture and the rasool has forbidden on that my verse thus goes
: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (4031) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Abi Dawood. 

Secondly,

The Muslims have no need to imitate any of the other nations in matters of religious rituals and acts of worship, for Allaah has perfected His religion and completed His Favour, and chosen for us Islam as our religion, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):  

“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”

[al-Maa'idah 5:3] 

Finally,
It was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1397; Muslim, 4822. 

To the op always asked religous matters from learned people so as not to be misled by small ignorant people. May Allah contnue to guide you and us all. Ameen
And to bayhaqi its better to say I dont know if you dont. Its safer and wiser

AlBaqir:
# Wedding ring is a cultural or social practice. While it has nothing to do with Islam, there's no command to its forbiddance. Therefore, it is neither obligatory nor haram to wear it. It is not even a recommended act or an act we frown at as far as Islamic laws are concern. On the other hand, some used to speculate that wedding ring is Christianic. That is a plain lie. Wedding ring is an European culture just like suit (coat) and tie is their's.


# However, the fact that your husband gave it to you, that means he wants you to wear it. I don't know his intention but norms of our society is "recognition". A woman with wedding ring is recognised and generally believed to be a married woman, and society gives her more respect. And men are usually back off the tail of such women (except perverted men).

# In India, their culture is not wedding ring but a red spotted ink at the forehead of a woman, that signify married or engaged. And keeping of moustache for men indicate married men.

* So, please look for your wedding ring and put it on provided you can still find it or talk to your hubby to provide another if he still wants it on your finger. May Allah strengthen and bless your family.

Wa Salam alaykum.

In as much as am trying not to be emotional on your response, am compelled to call you a jahil as there is no other way to say it more polite, ring is a culture associated with known muslims, that has root way bag to pagan romans (google should help you), thus is is an innovation to islam in it the least and an imitation of pagan culture. There is simply no hujja or prove that a muslim woman should where a ring, its alien to us and strongly discouraged. Remember the rasool s.a.w said whoever imitate a people would be among them,

Allaah has forbidden the Muslim to imitate the disbelievers, and the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) spoke very sternly concerning that, as he said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (4031) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Sunan Abi Dawood. 

Wearing ring is not only alien to Christianity (though they know noting about their history) but a full pagan culture.

Secondly,

The prohibition on imitating the kuffaar applies only to that which is exclusively theirs and which is not common to them and the Muslims. 

What explains the meaning of exclusivity is that if the person who does that action is seen it would be said of him that he belongs to the group which we are forbidden to imitate. This can only apply to actions which are not done by anyone but that group. As for actions which are common to them and the Muslims, it is not correct to say that doing this is regarded as the forbidden type of imitation, because this action is not exclusive to them. 

Based on that, the rulings on things that are only forbidden because they are imitation of the mushrikeen vary according to time and place, and according to different traditions and customs. 

If that kind of clothing in a particular country is worn only by the kuffaar, then it is haraam for the Muslim to wear it in that country, but if in another country it is worn by both Muslims and kaafirs, then it is permissible to wear it in that country. Nowadays, wearing pants or suits is not exclusive to the kaafirs; rather they are worn by Muslims in most countries and they do not think that wearing it is imitation of the kaafirs, because it is not exclusively theirs. 

Based on this, wearing it is permissible and there is nothing wrong with it. 

We have previously quoted a fatwa of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas which says that it is permissible to wear pants and suits, and it is not imitation of the kuffaar. See the answer to question number 105412 and 105413. 

Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked: What is the guideline on the issue of imitating the kuffaar? 

He replied: 

Imitation of the kuffaar may be in appearance, clothing, food and other things because it is a general word which refers to a person doing something that is done exclusively by the kuffaar, in such a way that whoever sees him would think that he is one of the kuffaar. This is the guideline. But if the thing has become widespread among both Muslims and kaafirs, then this imitation is permissible, even if it was originally taken from the kuffaar, so long as it is not haraam in and of itself, such as wearing silk. End quote.

:And she wore a muslim veil though she is a christain to carryout such evil act. Woe to her and her types

Nawa oh. Ladies have no shame any more, see as they are all trying to defend their cooperate prostitution. Oloshos every where.
Thank God for islam and muslim women, at least we know what it means to have a chaste and innocent woman as a wife. The respect is different.

This is beautiful. Enemies of islam should masturbate to this as they have started doing already...

Are people this ignorant, even if you cant read the letter at least the brief from the op should make one realise it has noting to do with love or suicide, the poor girl was sock, probably had a premonition of death,decided to right a will that is encouraged for every muslim to have. The story is as simple as that

Citykings:
Www.kelechisblog.com.ng

Kelechi blog indeed. Peak of bogotry and sentiments (from their name you shall know then.)

hyfr:
Pls correct me if I'm wrong. The moderators on Nairaland are they below 20yrs? I can't fathom any sensible reason why someone who learnt how to tiptoe should be our concern, when they masses need an eye opener and a way to come out of poverty. Instead the moderators are forcing other peoples lifestyle,family issues, problems etc,down on us.Thousands of sensible topic are wallowing underground. NB: most of us see this forum as one of the ways to escape the various issues of life. Sorry for the epistle, I'm high right now

I agree with you. The current moderators of nairaland need to get matured on the kind of post they bring to front page

If he was a muslim imam or mallam,he would have been declared an extremist,terrorist and the Muslim a hero for marrying his love.
Alas it would have been a love story.
But as its the other way round lets see what the extremist Christian have to say about it

Macelliot:
What is Human resources?
An average Igbo man beats a yoruba man hands down.

Statistic

YORUBA
Richest yoruba men
1) $500
2) $400
3) $350
4) $250
5) $150
poorest yoruba men
1) $0.1
2) $0.3
3) $0.5
4) $0.7
5) $0.9


HAUSAS.

Richest hausa men
1) $700
2) $250
3) $130
4) $40
5) $10
poorest hausa men
1) $0.01
2) $0.01
3) $0.01
4) $0.02
5) $0.02

IGBO


Richest igbo men
1) $395
2) $393
3) $386
4) $384
5) $381
poorest igbo men
1) $1.5
2) $1.5
3) $1.5
4) $1.5
5) $1.6


As an example between the average Hausa community where one man will be too rich while others are extremely poor, compared to the Igbo community where there is high competiton.


Rather for an Igbo man to leave a $700 for a single man to have it all while the other is poor, they rather share it $350-$350 (50/50). So none will be poor.

Nigerians are funny, so we should just accept these statistics if yours because you are what exactly?
Statistical lord? Lol

124mumsy:
islam is just too mechanical and grude

Guy instead of you to inquire,read and learn of what divorce three times means in islam you and the nicompoo you quote they show ignorance on nairaland. I dont have the time to type much otherwise 1, I for clear your doubts on how crude your faith really is, secondly it dos nt make any difference clearing ur doubt

maxiuc:


Unless they stop this hijab wearing
Because sometimes they odour oozing out from that hijab can pursue potential husbands

They should be plain

And be allowed to mingle around openly

Lol he taught she is a kritain girl whom are mostly identified with smelly pussy. Infact its a miracle to see one of your ladies without a amonia/rotten egg like smelly pussy. I swear na d main thing were pursue me from your ladies be that. Anyway thank God they are now learning from us on how to wash their stuff after urination and sex

The might not be strictly drscribed as sect but groups or associations which might or might not be under a sect. That been said all forms of group or association is discouraged within the muslim ummah. Either its mssn oh or nasfat and the rest, this is what I know and understand from the explanation of a noble sheikh of sunna I trust. Mal abdulrahman abdulrauf abu naseer (may Allah guide him further) . Allah knows best

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leathalbeast:
so when you quoted me did you find any insults in my sentences? or you can sadly no longer deduce insults from questions? is a pity because your educational system is going downhill and people like you are a testimony to that.

the truth hurts and sadly the truth about you is that you are unschooled and that's a fact.

Another insult...I give up

leathalbeast:
LMAO an unwanted king that's trying to enthrone himself hahahaha. oga tell me o, has Nigeria being a supposed giant prevented my country Ghana from going to the IMF?

has it prevented your nation Nigeria from getting aids from danida, usaid, China?

or is it because of Nigeria that the Gambia, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Mali and Sierra Leone wars ended?

dude, your country isn't that relevant, you just like to feel important.
copy dat!

This guy is serously pained.
Am only wondering the reason why.all youve been spewing are insts from one insult to another. Is it so difficult to make a point without the insults. If I may ask, how old are you?? Cuz u really sound childish

Megatrix:
The judge is just joking. How can the sureties be held responsible for his inability to appear when everybody knows how and why he disappeared? The military is responsible for his disappearance. This judgement will not stand on appeal

Whose the everybody?..ipobs?..joker
The heroic judge is now a judge acting by a script. Pathetic people

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modath:
No virtue / value in modesty anymore..

I tell you. Our brains are officially messed up. The next generation might see homosexuality as the next real thing. Na small small eday start