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LoJ:
I agree. Jesus was clearly of essenic background and so was John. With time some authorities have tried to suppress this information. This is what I am trying to demonstrate here with this case study.

But there is more to this case study. It appears a highly revered figure of early Christianity has hijacked the sect and given the direction that led to the present Christianity, which is different from the original teaching of Yeshua. Someone Like a Trojan horse. Thanks to the Nag hamadi and the Qumran, the truth can be uncovered.

Qumran was the stronghold of the Essenes before it was captured and controlled by the romans. I agree with your assertion that a high ranking Roman general might have hijacked their teaching and formed what to be known as Christianity, I suspect the man named Paul, the name might be a pen name of the man behind the author of major books of the New Testament. just a wild guess, but one thing I know for sure is, Paul was not a real figure as commonly depicted sha

LoJ:
Luke seems to have a divergent opinion. In Acts 24:5 Luke the "leader of the Nazarene sect". According to him, Nazarene refered to a sect, a group of people with an established spiritual practice, not just a mere place. Would it make sense to call the disciples Nazarenes, although none of them except Jesus allegedly came from the village? Why would Matthew fake a prophecy that exists nowhere in the Torah, not even the extended Tanakh just to give another meaning to this Nazarene word?

Could it be that someone wanted to hide the fact that Jesus actually belonged to the Essenes? Maybe the next difference will give us more clue about that.

Indeed the second difference between Luke's account and Samson's story is the name of the angel. In Samson's case, the angel refused to disclose his name, while Luke gives him the name Gabriel.

This should ring a bell because there is only one other Bible passage where Gabriel is mentioned: in the story of Daniel.

Who is Daniel? Daniel is that very consecrated young man who refused to eat the King's food nor drink wine... Just like a typical Nazarite.

Once again Luke is sending us to the Nazarene /Nazarite /essenic tradition.

most school of thought concerning the myth and truth around Jesus are starting to accept he may have belong to an older essenic cult that predates his teaching but was moulded around the Essene cult teachings. there are many instances present even in the New Testament that shows Jesus was part of the cult. The lost years of Jesus might not be lost after all. He may have spent sometime in presence of this cult, learning and shaping his belief system and what will now become his teaching.

Read Jesus and the Essene by Dolores cannon.

goalernestman:
I will bet you there will also be no Oyo empire history in this Sahelian history expect the Yoruba version

it is really strenuous arguing with you Benin folks Walai. you only see the world from your point of view, even when evidence abounds. anything else to you, is null and void. smh

goalernestman:
So are you saying Oyo empire is known to Yoruba only and it is not decorated in Africa and world history

bro. please, just check back in what you posted and see if you are honest with yourself. if you seek validation from historian on some maps for the superiority of Benin empire and you are stylishly telling me that oyo empire was not known beyond her borders in spite of records that exist which showed trade activities up north and into the middle east. Bro, please be objective. that's one problem I see with Benin kingdom fanatics, always arguing in circles and twisting argument. superiority or not, look at where we are as a nation. has your history better your condition of living as a citizen of this country?

Weedfree:
Ur points a ridiculous Oyo empire traded with the north since they have access to the savannah which is were they got the idea to use Calvary in war which Benin empire didn't use because of their geographical location. Has I said earlier Benin empire traded with the Portuguese. And also I said Oyo empire had slaves that they are used for farm work not until 17th century that the need for slaves to be sold arose besides other tribes used bight of Benin has a means to sell slaves not only Benin empire who I heard were not involved in the selling of slaves. The map am talking about shows Oyo empire not trade map it shows kingdoms in that century.

it seems most people arguing on this bight of Biafra, bight of Benin for validation of their old kingdom due to some maps Is very ridiculous. do you guys know what a "bight" is. so you are telling me a voyager coming from Europe will have contact with oyo kingdom that is more closer to the Savannah than jet being close to the coastal region, even given her proximity to dahomey. the reason why cartographers named all those area bight of Biafra or Benin is because, they have more access to kingdom around the coast than they have to the hinterland. this prompted their assumptions that the kingdom might have extend to the hinterland, without exploring it. This is why Portuguese asked the oba of Benin if there's a kingdom more powerful, of which he answered that a king existed more powerful to the north, his face his subject has not seen. Bare in mind, that oyo empire even when her influence is waning during the emergence of Benin kingdom, has been trading with traders from the Middle East. another reason why early cartographers might not recognise the Yoruba was because, they live in a area with a lot of vegetation, an heavily forested area. so the early explorers Prolly made a judgement call that is within their scope of what they can see or who they find available to relate and interact with.

please, remove any ethnic difference aside goaleasternman and be objective

zeromeridian:
OPC is a woman Organization. Don't dare lPOB to start getting involved in Yoruba land politics. Ipob is a no nonsense organization.

For this OPC spokes person ranting, where we're your OPC and Yoruba people when Demola was almost being killed like a common criminal.

You guys ran away and left your brother in his pool of blood. Why did you guys not come out and defend him. Cowards. Igbos are peaceful people and will never attack anybody first.

There are more than Ten thousand IPOB members in Lagos. If you guys start any rubbish, the back up will come from the sea and land. Remember Asari and his men are already waiting for this opportunity. IPOB does not joke.

If you guys dare involve IPOB in this matter, be sure Lagos will be too hot for you. OPC are small fry to IPOB. IPOB has issue with the army not civilians. Be warned!

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Jesusloveyou:
I like the word used by thief Justice onnogen,
he said, ’exclusive jurisdiction’

the only duty of cct is to look into misconduct of anybody in nigeria, be you president,
is not everyday court,

meanwhile, these jubril is behaving like buhari of 1984.

why was it called a court then?

buhari exploited the loophole in the interpretation act, no hard feelings, no emotions. even if you see it as constitutionally wrong. it is clearly stated for us to decipher. he would have breach the constitution if he removed him, but since no provision is available and contained the constitution for process of suspension, he used this as an opportunity to relieve him of his duty. The timeline to the suspension, only him knows

TruthinAction:
Because you are not God.

Please, be explicit as possible in deconstructing want the guy posted earlier. Thank you

TruthinAction:
You read the scriptures out of context.

Jesus never dishonoured his parents but he gave honour to God in preference. You honour your parents in the Lord. If your parents say don't go to Church, you are not obliged to obey them.

If Jesus called them fools, he himself is not subject to judgment because he is the judge.

For instance, we are told not to swear at all but God himself can swear and he is not subject to a higher power.

The account you gave concerning unclean thing is completely out of place. The law of Moses has nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus. Jesus brought grace and not law.

The parable you cited in Luke was simply an illustration of what will happen on Judgement Day.

Op, please use your time to preach the gospel rather than looking for baseless faults.

Your argument is totally flawed bro, because he's the judge means he can flout the law bah?

And how is God that i am made in his image swear and me can not swear.

I thought I will see comments edifying our culture, but alas i saw instead comments that reek of tribal and spiritual ignorance from hypocrites!

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Honchogod:
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do you know any outlet where one can get easily, it's almost difficult to get here in Ibadan. except through those who play "hide and seek" , I don't know which kind of strain they have, only I don't really like it. kind of like mixed with prolly snuff

I read somewhere sometimes ago, that those new strains we have here like Cali, Arizona and loud has been tainted, kind of like synthesised, is it true?

MuttleyLaff:
1. Is it not strange that something so important as salvation was delayed for so long
Answer:
"you cant hurry the harvest" Are you not familiar with that saying?
Salvation delayed, is not salvation denied. Salvation comes and came when due.

so it wasn't due for those born pre Christ era?




4. Did black people who died worshipping idols in those ancient days go to hell fire?
Answer:
Get your facts right please, because no human being yet, including the black people who died worshipping idols in those ancient days are in "hell fire". Also hell and death ultimately will be thrown into the lake of fire



how do you know, have you been to hell before, who gave you this information.




5. Did the black men who married more than one wife go to hell after death?
Answer:
You have been misinformed, that's why you keep harping that people go to hell after death. People go to Sheol after death.



Again, I have never seen in bibles that I read, where dead people go to Sheol first. I know what the bible say after death is judgment. Do you not know that? heaven or hell according to your religion.



MAIN QUESTION =
HOW DID THE BLACK MAN GET SAVED BEFORE CHRIST AND WAS THIS METHOD OF SALVATION VALID IN THE EYES OF GOD?
Answer
It's simple, it's by sheer doing pure and true religion that is faultless. Doing pure and true religion that has no fault enhances the prospect albeit the price of the cost of salvation has been paid by Jesus Christ

expound more on this bro.

thank you sire

interesting case of god and Jesus. seems peter obi has just been baptised with the holy spirit, now Mr Paul is playing god. lol

olaochi, you are getting it all wrong. you are making it look as if these contributors are rubbing off on the Hebrew connection's ego. I don't think they are trying to merge Yoruba history with Hebrew history. rather they are trying to show the latter is the derivative of the former. maybe you think they are presenting their finding with a religious bias based on their religious disposition. it is wrong! imperial Yoruba has so far tried to expose the Islam connection too I think in a recent thread he created. You see Mr olaochi, the mistake you are trying to make is trying to see the Hebrew itself as a standalone culture, maybe pegging the recent occupiers of the recent Israel as the owner of this culture. I don't know of your root, you claim t be a Yoruba, I won't dispute that with you. but what I want to let you to know is no matter your genuiness or sincerity or cause for concern for the Yoruba race, you should not discard any new findings trying to unravel the mystery or secrecy surrounding our history.

IkpuMmadu:
Yoruba are confused....there is nothing to show that Yoruba has relationship with Jews from culture to business orientation , stop making yourself a laughing stock

Bros, no one from the inception of this thread has forced merged Jew with the Yoruba, for you to even say Jew has no relationship with the Yoruba shows you don't know the difference between being a Hebrew and being a Jew, it also show you jumping into conclusion like a puma without taking pain to read this thread from its beginning. let me help you. the contributors on this thread are showing linguistic and cultural also spiritual relationship of the Yoruba/Hebrew connection. not the Jews, it's for ethnic and hating IBO's like you ( I have no grudge with your tribe, except few one's like you who just hate unnecessarily) you can create a thread for all we care and show the world how IBO's are related to the Jews. and I bet you won't see any sane Yoruba poke nosing into it except those who want to offer meaningful contributions unlike you. please I beg you, don't just look with one eyes, see with both eyes and your inner eyes too. If you had taken the pain to read from the start of this thread, I know you might be convinced that there must exist a larger percentage of truth in all what the contributors has penned down, except if you want to get jealous or hate for nothing. if you have any counter contributions, why not lay it bare, if you rear through every pages of this thread you will notice we have even fought ourselves intellectually, we've have engaged in hot argument all with the mindset of forging a common cause of Yoruba nation and reclaiming our history not the textbook history that we have been force fed with, I don't know if you are comfortable with yours, but we are not comfortable with ours and we feel something is wrong and amiss. so why not just do us a favour, just stop hating!

one love bro.

absoluteSuccess:
LOL, badass!

May God bless your wit the more.

Happy new year big brother.

Bro Hayoholla, hope you are good?

yes sire. doing good, sent you a mail sef.

i must confess, I have enjoyed every post in this great thread, thanks in large measures to you great contributors. you really opened my eyes to a lot of things. this is the only thread that I keep on refreshing my browser page for new updates. my wish is this topic should be confined in the corridors of the culture section of nairaland alone. we need to do more by spreading the gospel of our great and mysterious culture by redefining and reverting back to the original and undiluted status quo of Yoruba history, not the one that has been watered and force down our throat.

I find it also surprising how you people got this volume of info stored up there. please I want to join your league oo. absolute success, olu 317, obalufon, macof, imperial Yoruba et all. want to sit down at your feet and learn more .

ImperialYoruba:
Shed more light on what? You cant just come in and say "shed more light". Bro, you have to be specific. Do you know how far this discussion has gone and the many areas that it has touched? Bro help me out and say specifically where you need more light. This is serious stuff bro, stop joking around.

lol, I have been on this thread since the day it was birthed. I only asked you to shed more light on your angle of Hebrew/Yoruba connection. absolutesucces, Mr olu317, obalufon et all has thoroughly done justice. we want to learn from you too sire

ImperialYoruba:


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Happy New Year my brother.

The yeye mods in politics are useless. Worse than the ones in culture. When i want them to ban me they will not. It doesnt matter what extent I will go with bigotry they will ignore me. But the f00ls, creeping freaks, the moment an important and controversial topic is on board they will kick me off, sometimes use bot to ban me. Im still very annoyed with them. I wanted to come here when I saw this post from you few days ago and comment when it was still hot but i couldnt participate because the clowns choose the freaking wrong time to ban me. I wanted to comment on the AMCON saga when it was hot!!! And i couldnt. Ooohhhh! Its so annoying but i try to be cool and smile to push out the annoyance. Walahi!

I tell you brother you are an excellent writer and blessed with good penmanship. You write eloquently and with plentiful retrospective and deep insight. Ive enjoyed many of your posts but this is about the best ive seen.

God bless and reinforce you with more enlighenement.

Quite honestly i dont even know where to start, this thing is no longer hot...my impulse is not as spontaneous and sharp since I couldnt reply when i wanted to. Mmmtcccheew...


You do know Yoruba had nomads back in the days? Anyway, thats story for another day. The Aworis split in Ife. Some went as priests with Oranmiyan to Benin and remained there. Some went to Lagos and remained there. The ones that werein Benin had a split also and some ended in reunification with their kits in Lagos.

Beleke Esu
Belekesu
Bilikesu
Bilikisu
Biliqisu
Biliqis
Bilqis
Balqis

Oori pe were ni larubawa. Awon olosha, oni jibiti. They stole words originally Yoruba cut out the volwels and gave misinformation about it.


What highlited in your post is very important. There are three ancestral characters, they are smartly evolved into new stories. Olugbani, Ejilu, Malaki. In Yoruba they were immortalized into Adamu Orisa and Eyo.

Im not going to talk about these ancestors. If i did people will sh.it in their trousers.


Do you know Abraham waz an Aramean? Thete were two prominent Labans in Bible. One was father of Leah and Rachel, the two sisters that Issac's Akobi (Jakobi) married. Check this out, Jacob and these girl sisters were first cousins.
He had children with them. Jacob's mother, Rebekah, is sister to Laban.
Now check this...there is another Laban (Albani) in the Bible. Laban, Jacob's uncle was an Aramean but not a priest of God. The second Laban was a cult priest and the name became synonymous with white and purity. He mysteriously dissapeared, or perharps gained new status and name...but no one could trace him through biblical genealogies, as important he was. He carried the bag of secret for the cult and responsible for divination.

This Laban "the white", carrier of the secret pouch, also called Albani....we got Olugbani. In his time his contemporaries were Elijah and Malachi.

Do you know Lagos and their Eyo very well?

Efunyemi Olugbani was said to be married to King of Lagos. After her death....dissapearance, her brothers Malaki and Ejilu brought Adimu Orisa (Orisa Adimula) to celebrate her.

Adimu was a cult. With time they added other cults and expanded the outing. Eventualy the Orisa outing added fanfare and what is known as Eyo.

In that Eyo itself there is a secret cult pouch that must be borne on the day of Eyo. That pouch is named Laba. The Eyo fraternal group that bears the Laba (Akolaba) is what today is called Okolaba.

This Yoruba we speak and its culture is the one spoken in Afroasia and all Middle East....origin of our ancestors. When we left ...when we were displaced. The thieves thag took over our lands assimilated our language and bastardized it with their vernaculars to result in vast differences and at first when you look at words like Ijora (...Ajiran rendered in its Yoruba original) against the fake version...Hijra (Hajirun) you are less likely to believe common origin for both.

We go talk more my brother....i no wan miss the agonyin beans this morning abeg, make i siddon outside.

shed more light brother. we want to learn

PastorDavidAwuj:
Yes sir, it works all the time.

You mean god gave you a special waiver and answers your request by just having faith! you must be in the leagues of oyedepos and adeboyes o

PastorDavidAwuj:
Faith is more than just prayers bro. Many are dying, yet so many more are getting healed supernaturally. The difference between these groups is faith. Crying or whatever doesn’t move God, the only thing that moves him is faith. What you should do is tell me to teach you how this faith works, and stop coming at me as if I know you from anywhere.

As a pastor who is in care of the sheep's. I want to ask, does your faith works for you all the time?

kkins25:
which land hasn't suffered the pestilence of war? asians, native Americans all gnashed their teeths to the drums of war beaten by the might europeans. millions of asians were killed but take a look at asian countries now. they all moved forward despite the unbearable pain. whats stopping nigeria.

we are just to emotional and too sentimental to a fault. our greatest undoing. too sulky a continent! instead of moving on and pick up the pieces with pride, we instead chose to lick our wounds, in consequence, we suffer more infections, infection that manifest in even our reasoning! we are the architect of our misfortune, not some smart europeans

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absoluteSuccess:
First, Yoruba tradition is not in any way designed to help or emphasize any kemetic, Hellenic, Hamitic, hebrew, canaan or arabic tradition, so there is no acceptable straightforward correlation without some scrutinizing for a scholar or non scholar alike who may want to use any item sourced from Yoruba pantheon to establish a conclusion beyond reasonable doubt in any application; be it historical, religious, scientific or humanities et cetera.

For instance, you have to understand that the god of iron, ogun was a mortal transformed to a god by modern Yoruba scholars. But when he lived, he was a militia and a keeper of an anvil: "Ogun onile aro". By his name Ogun, you can deduce his personal attribute and go with any of your choice description as his identity:

ogun, meaning, crusher (agbede-ogun: copper-smith)

Ogun: meaning, handsome (o gun rekete, very nice to look at)

ogun; meaning, crush, (o gun, to be smitten by look, to be very handsome)

These names above are disambiguation, meaning you don't need to read any sentimental or religious meaning whatsoever to the name.

In the same Yoruba pantheon is esu, the god of trickery in modern Yoruba. Behind that name also is a mortal being that has once lived and was a popular figure renown for her unpopular and "devilish" actions so to say. now what does the name esu connote, free of the gift of biblical or traditional histrionics? esu means heaps, [ake]su [punch and] mould, esu, dark, esua, black beauty, sujo, compact [together], suon, beautiful.

Stunners

In Ogun, you find out that the name connotes a masculine with good look, warlike and metallurgical attributes. The true bearer was a coppersmith, (agbede, a gbe ide, copper carver) the word also connote farmer '(agbe) and hunter (ode: arepa n'togun) these are the true profession of the man Ogun.

In esu, you never see anything devilish but dark, beauty, compact, cloud (as when its about to rain). Esu was first a name of a person who became popular and was often discredited. About her is the saying, Esu Beleke: ultimately from the folksong, beleke beleke o baba esu, beleke. Esu was a child of Beleke.

Another name for beleke is Obe, so it is said, "Obe b'elesu, b'esu, omo tori ogun wa ye". I want to think Elesu is either a sibling of esu or its a repetition of esu as the child of Obe. Did the biblical devil has this in his oriki as well? If so, what's the significance of beleke to Esu's oriki?

Now what we are doing with the word "esu" in "Christendom" is what our fathers did with most of their historical words. They rubbished them in angst or lack of deeper knowledge. Likewise, we do overpraise and transfer one hero from its origin to where we prefer them to be from, hence Oduduwa for instance was never seen to have been to Lagos, meanwhile it was where Yoruba migrants anchored on arrival.

Moreso, "the god of iron" is not Yoruba thought system, its just Ogun, there is no "god" in Yoruba, its "orisa". Orisa is not equal to god. In the same vein, Esu is not the original devil, but our fathers superimposed "the devil" on the identity of Esu whose name was Lanroye (or Laroye, founder of Osogbo) Arogbo. Sango did not emit flame from her mouth, she was a woman, not a cross dresser, not gay.

Yoruba Watchers' Tradition

The Yoruba tradition is remarkably at home with what obtains everywhere around her, and also in touch with what you have at the Levant culture. The coptic/Aramaic/hebrew projection of both the good and bad angels finds expression in Yoruba: "irin, the watchers, the holy ones" derived from hebrew, 'er' translates to watchful angels: irin is part of the word owonrin, "the migrants" in Yoruba, where 'irin' is 'migration', as found in "erin moje omo sa aja".

Irinwo is 400, the total number of Yoruba watchers, imoleh. Irinwo sounds like 'iron-falling', as wo means fall. There were 200 fallen angels. Awon Awo literally means the seers "ori" or "the watchers" awo. Yoruba word imaleh means malah in Coptic, irin in Aramaic, egregori or angelos in Greek. This is to demonstrate that the Yoruba were very familiar with the thinking of the writer of the book of Enoch and the watchful angels, the angels that keep watch over the people, as was Michael.

The Yoruba fallen Watchers, the Yoruba Demon

The implication of this is that Yoruba tradition is also familiar with esu, the devil. The Yoruba is privy of fallen demons in its archaic or ancient form, Eriwo is akin to eriwoyah. The term is meant to confirm that the word "eriwo" pertains with "Yah". Meanwhile, when the Yoruba says "awon omo eriwo," it simply means violent or dangerous folks. Perhaps, these were the men of status, the nephilim in Yoruba world. "Eriwo" on its own is akin to the fallen watchers.

But there is a distinction of some sort nonetheless. Awo, this stands for watcher, and amawo were people who knew the watcher, the priests of Ifa are so called babalawo, "fathers at watch". "Awon awo" are "the guild of watchers". But then the word "eriwo" connotes fallen angels proper, as it seems to mean eri-wo, meaning, "horn-headed", eri (head) wo (horn). The antithesis to this is the word "iwori" put more aptly in "awo-ri", what's more, eriwo-ya sounds like "horn-headed, disperse!" And that's what the Awos says when they are in procession. I also believe this to be ambiguous though, as it also connotes [a]riwo Yah, as in HalleluYah.

The Yoruba tradition is a celestial arrangement of some sort, with the migrants using angelic terminologies to assign roles to different offices of the migrants and their leaders as it still survive till date. The founding fathers were imale, malech, angels, watchers, awon awo, who descended from heaven unto earth. They employ this arrangement because, their migration was conceived as divine, with heavenly or celestial appeal being their commonwealth and worldview, not borrowed from anywhere, but shared with their source.



Esu as saviour is my take. One man's hero is another man's villain. The ancient Yoruba was polarized into two when the going got tough, the populace were angry with Osun (Osogbo, Osugbo) who was their mother superior, they described Osugbo as esu, who was blamed to have brought all the evil they went through in the epoch of their migration upon them as would a fallen angel.

Meanwhile, others acknowledge her talent and intellect, reckoning her as a saviour in her own right. Thus, the attributes of the original devil rub off on esu, as much as that of the saviour. Albeit, when you say 'Yesua', it means 'Yah is my salvation' in hebrew. Yet Esua is a name in Yoruba liturgy that means esu wa (black beauty, pretty devil if you like) and egba at the same time. The angle that means saviour can be explored.

Jesu/Esu

The ancient Yoruba were familiar with Yesua or Esua as evidence in 'esusu', saving, salvation. The Yoruba have their concept of 'salvation' and saviuor ('egba tii gbani l'owo isoro'/ 'olori olugbani') thus they named their kids based on this at early time in their history. Esu was therefore a household name as it equally means "shady/black" before the arrival of universal religion.

What Olu made of that post you quoted is that esu(a) is a Yoruba form of the word Yesua, which is the hebrew cognate for the Anglicized name "Jesus", not that the original devil is a saviour. Oju Esu is the same as Oju Elegba, Esu is called Elegbara, meaning, saviour of (her) kindred. Esua is the historical figure now held linguistically captive in the same name of the original esu, the devil. We're meant to set her free. Esu is therefore a kind of duality unequally yoked together.

When the Yoruba says "obinrin l'aje obinrin l'esu", they were making reference to the identity of Esu, the consort of Orunmila. This is because Esu is another word for Odu, the black matriarch, that is Odu, Eleyinju Ege. Her real identity as human being is preserved in this version of her name.

Oore yeye Osun.

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