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benalvino3:
Yeah, Israel and the US have the right of preemptive self-defense

South Africa has nukes... No one cares because they are not maniacs

South Africa don't have nukes. It was dismantled at the end of apartheid

Roland17:
I shared the story of a friend that suffered a stroke because of something similar. Sotey, baba come dey fear to answer calls originating from Naija.

You are still too young and na small small stressors like these dey chop mental and physical health. You shared with us your popsy's battles with BP and what looks like a stroke, that means you are at a high risk because of family history.

For the sake of your health, delegate to that your aunt as you plan, set expectations as you establish processes and make she be the one to dey follow up with you.

I lived through something similar with that my guy and we are always grateful he survived but his recovery was very very rough, post stroke.

Point taken, no be me dem go kill. When my grandma passed the school to him 15 years ago, na the same warning we give am. Maybe na wetin give am stroke. I won't walk in his footsteps, I just want quickly tidy few things and handover as per first son responsibility.

Ontop that the man dey stress me from hospital bed say make I take care of this person and that person wey I no know or barely know. Liabilities wey him been dey carry. One of my padi even warned me last year after his pops died that the unseen part of unwinding his pops affairs was winding down his pops responsibilities to various distant relatives. I called one of the church people today that my popsie told me to make sure he completes his studies (apparently my popsie has been funding his studies) only to find out he is a 35 year old studying Sociology. I come dey wonder wetin enter the man mind to sponsor someone doing that MassCom-like course at that age. Just so many rubbish to pick through.

Roland17:
Baba you digging a rabbit hole oh and na your BP and mental health you dey play with so.

This reads like a significant rot because of the absence of established processes and systems to ensure accountability.

All I promised them was I will do budget and cash flow forecast template wey my aunty go use run the business, then I'm out. Just getting to that part done dey affect my mental health

Just now now I received phone call about one nonsense supplies dem want buy wey dem want me to approve. Person go dey abroad dey receive phone call about N100k spend to approve every couple hours because them no get basic processes in place. No be me dem go kill, I go do one or two then leave am for them. If dem run out of funds because popsie no dey to subsidise am, let it shut down.

raumdeuter:
Imagine you after several years abroad that you are used to at least some form of order now relocates to Nigeria to face the craziness

As a landlord in UK, you might not even know or meet your tenants for years, As a business owner you might not even meet your partners because everyone does their part

Not in Nigeria, you have to be personally involved in every step. If you own a bakery, you have to be involved in procurement of Sugar, procurement of flour, electricity bill, buying supplies, staff management, because at every step people dey wh want to take advantage of you

The main wahala na simple receiving of data

Simple example the guy school get school bus. Diesel bill na like N1m per month

I ask question, how many students dey use the bus, how much dem dey pay per student. To get answer from bursar, one week done pass, no answer. Just simple data for decision making. How much dem done spend on mechanic this year on the school bus, crickets and long stories. I ask you question, for simple one word answer, you go dey tell me about Uchendu the mechanic and which teacher get fibroid wey dem gast treat wey dey owe money. Of course the bus service will get shut down after all these story.

Multiply that one by twenty other questions, you go dey hear unecessary story over chicken change matter wey you no get time for. I come find out say him Popsie dey use him own money subsidise the school most times, school with almost 1000 students. I can feel my BP rising and anxiety coming, dem want kill me. Las las I go close the school and many other things wey no make sense. You go dey spend time speaking to people over wetin no dey material. I pity anybody abroad wey dey do business for Naija. They better off just doing Amazon delivery or Uber driving in the evening abroad for extra income than investing their capital and good health into Nigeria

Na now I understand that conversation couple weeks back about people dying young from doing business in Nigeria

Small tidying up of my popsie affairs in Nigeria want give me stroke. Nigerians no go kill pesin.

ouzo1:
Make God bless all una wey wish Benue well,I lost love ones to that tragic stuff wey sub...

My condolences Sir, may you be comforted 🙏🏽

nateevs:
You cannot successfully argue out this case with Ibime. Ibime is an Evangelical Christian who will side with Israel, no matter what.

I'm an Evangelical Christian but you attend Redeemed abi Winners after we thought you are a Muslim named Lateef for years

I am not a believer Sir, don't believe any fairytale bible. My rule of thumb is which of the two groups will kill me for who I am and which country behaves like a mad dog and that's not Israel

cococandy:
Precisely. I said it didn’t start overnight


There’s a reason why I don’t argue for or against a particular country when it comes to wars. Because sometimes it’s way more protracted than who’s right or wrong, since the issues usually span decades.

But at the moment we are looking at who’s instigating new violence and who’s standing in the way of a path to peace and it’s Isreal. What’s a preemptive strike if not a first strike? In this new wave of hostilities, Isreal is the aggressor. They admitted as much.

What I want to know is if we are in support of gra gra “do anyhow see anyhow” tactics, at whose expense is it going to be? Americans?

What’s the material and human cost of a nuclear war if it comes to that? Are you prepared to die today in a nuclear blast? Prepared to suffer the effects of a nuclear fallout?

There’s a reason why the whole world agreed to no more new nuclear weapons. Isreal broke that treaty thereby prompting their neighbors Iran included to start nuclear activities too. If Isreal can’t abide by world rules, why do they expect others to?

Everything points back to them. And they always want to manipulate USA into joining their wars.

Meanwhile they have universal healthcare and subsidized college while American money is funding their wars. Americans can’t even go to college without hundreds of thousands of dollars in college debt

There is no new "wave of hostilities". Israel suffered hostilities last week from Iran directed proxies

cococandy:
I’m not making up facts. In fact I’m not on Iran’s side. I’m on the side of Isreal should carry their wahala and face their issues with Iran without dragging the US into it.

I’m aware that just like Isreal conflict with Palestine, it didn’t start overnight. But they were in the middle of a negotiation and Israel launches a strike against them. Can’t say that’s not fact and that’s not the action of someone who actually doesn’t want peace.

There is nothing like start overnight. Why did Iran rain 200 ballistic missiles on Israel in October 2024 to avenge the killing of Nasrallah, the Head of Hezbollah, a Lebanese Citizen?

If we want to go by rules of engagement, why did one state bomb another state for the killing of a non state actor who is not their citizen?

Iran has been attacking Israel since 2023 and last weeks bombing is the continuation and response to 2 years of Iranian aggression and daily bombardment of Israel from North, South and West. Israel has not bombed anybody first. You do anyhow, you see anyhow.

cococandy:
I want to believe this too but I don’t. I’m 100% certain nothing will satisfy Netanyahu until Palestinians are wiped off the surface of the earth. That’s also genocidal intent. And to them, Isreal is also a terrorist.

We seemed to agree on new wars. I saw that as something reds and blues agreed on. UNTIL blood thirsty Netanyahu preemptively strikes Iran. What did he think was going to happen when he bombed them first? If he knew how dangerous they were, what exactly was he hoping to achieve by bombing them if not war? A war he fully expects U.S to jump into and start losing funds and lives over? Like we exist to pay taxes for his wars and raise our young men to go and die for his political ambition.

Nope he didn't bomb them first. Iran attacked Israel on October 7th 2023 and has been attacking daily ever since from Hezbollah and Houthis. You can tell yourself whatever you want or twist facts on it's head, fact remains fact

airmark:
We need another experienced striker.

We can't go to the new season with Delap and Jackson. If Delap gets injured, we will be back to square one with your jakujaku Jackson.

So relaxed mind is permanent but sigh of relief is temporary?

IjeBos:
That you don't understand that the word terrorist is amorphous is my point.
This may help. When Israel uses car bombs to kill Iranian scientists in the middle of the day is that terrorism?

All that moral equivaism must be hard for you when it seems you see Muslims as evil and Israelis as good.

No I don't do moral equivalence

I'm a practical man who can understand the difference between genocidal death cult targeting people just for being different and collateral damage when targeting a combatant enemy.

Just like Boko Haram enter a village and kill everyone and Nigerian army kill a few villagers while dropping bomb on Boko Haram. They are not the same and can never be equivalent

Put the Israeli shoe on Irans foot and 2 million Gazans will be dead, not 50k

I also understand why for practical terms you may section off a people that attacked you with genocidal intent in 1948 and cannot live amongst them for your own people's safety just 3 years after an epic genocide. And I believe a solution for the Palestinians will be worked out with a period of peace for Israel and not having to fight off genocidal wars and attacks every few years. And no, I am not a Christian, I don't hate muslims which many of my friends are, including my daughters Godfather. Just a practical nucca not driven by emotions.

IjeBos:
You started with the amorphous propaganda term terrorists.

Nucca there's nothing amorphous or propaganda about the word terrorist when describing the terror networks directed by Iran

And if you are stewp√d enough to let your emotions get in the way of factual observation, I can drop you in the middle of them like this Tanzanian brother with your Hamas friends, or I can drop you in the middle of Tel Aviv the Søybøy capital of the world for the night of your life.

Hamas executed an innocent Tanzanian student who was studying agriculture in Israel

Your thoughts on this pic.twitter.com/QR76SYhK6g

— Mr oswagoh🇰🇪™ (@oswagohmikel) October 28, 2024

airmark:
I hope Jackson won't call Enzo, a racist in few days. Everyone is tired of Jackson and heaved a temporary sigh of relief with the arrival of Delap.

What's temporary about the sigh of relief, abi you just want speak English?

IjeBos:
What the Jordanian king said was facts.
What Bernie Sanders said was facts.
The lies Netanyahu testified to in Congress to get us into the Iraq war are facts.
That the US Intelligence view is that Iran didn't have a Nuclear Weapons program while Netanyahu was on TV lying that they would have a bomb in days are facts.
What is going on in Gaza are facts.
How Israel acquired the land in the Middle East are Facts.
The Nakba is a fact.

Not accounting for those facts are emotions.

Keep ranting emotionally

When Iran sends missiles tonight, Jordan will put pilots in the air to intercept them

That's what you do for a reliable predictable partner

You dey talk rules? When almost all countries in the UN were condemning the Russian attack on Ukraine, Iran was sending thousands of drones and missiles to kill Ukrainians. Where have Iran and Ukraine ever crossed paths before?

Difference between a mad dog and a consistent and predictable partner

Go on another rant

IjeBos:
Great relations? Did you really just write that?
When you say great relations, you mean that they get along with Israel to collect money from the US?
And how many people have Israel wiped out this last year?

This is the Jordanian king today.
ells-eu-parliament-1167476

You are either for a rules based order or you aren't. You can't pick and choose when those rules serve you and abandon them when they don't.

I no go talk again on the matter. I done talk my own, I don't do emotional rants

Person dey talk rules based order dey support Iran. Which rule involves arming the most extensive terrorist networks to kill civilians

LordAdam16:
1. What do you expect? The Right has backed nearly every war going back about century. Typically, the largesse of these wars has been disbursed relatively fairly across all classes. The perks of winning WW2 was being able to afford a home, car, stay-at-home wife, and three kids in a picturesque suburb on one factory or refinery job.

Since the end of the Cold War, that social contract has been terminated. It is demoralizing to support wars, fight and die in them, then return home to find jobs have been shipped overseas, you can't complain about the influx of illegal immigrants, and virtually all pillars of society has been hijacked by your ideological rival.

Of course, the natural response is f*ck all this. I'm done with adventurism.
The truly sad part is many believed Trump 2.0 was a departure from the past that they signed up in record numbers. After all, if there are no new wars, being in the military is a sweet gig. Only to be rug-pulled barely 6 months in.

2. A section, historically small, has not been a fan of Zionism. They don't like that the State of Israel asks the US to jump and the response is "how high". This cohort would probably begrudgingly support a war in defense of (or even offensive for) an ally like South Korea or Japan. But certainly not for the "Iraq has WMD" "Greater Israel" crooners.

3. Nationalists. They've historically been in the minority since the Manifest Destiny faction won out more than a century ago. They've always been around, but because Pax Americana has been so wildly successful, they've had to shut up and trudge on. Patiently waiting for an opening.

With the weather vane shifting to non-interventionism, they see that opening. The Nationalism movement wants to escape their historical purgatory, so they're willing to get in bed with anyone. Staying in the shadows for more than a century would do that to any movement. Putin. Xi. Kim. Orban. Even Khamenei. They don't like many of them, but globalists and neo-liberalists are their arch domestic enemies and their immediate concern.

So they'll do anything to get them off the perch and then it'll back to the old scheming and plotting against adversaries.

4. Populism. It ties all three factions and allies on the left, center, up and down. The US is declining. Debt is rising with no one able to pump the brakes. The American Dream is well a dream. Housing, inflation, [insert whatever the average American wants to rant about]. It all comes together into a gift package, with a nice red bow called Populism. The wisdom of the crowd prevails. Let's do things differently.

Right now, on the issue of War with Iran, the different approach is to stay the hell out.

PS: If the b*t lets this true, great. If not, not typing a TL;DR.

-Lord

Actually social media is giving you guys too much voice.

Most of the right (bible believing evangelicals) are with Israel. It's the new far right (Conspiracy theorists and former far left conspiracy theorists like Tim Poole) and confused indomie generation who are the loudest on social media that like to go and ignorantly shout anti war. There is no expensive ground invasion here, just a couple of bombs to wipe out the nuclear bunkers. Israel have already finished work

That Iraq was a mistake does not mean you should not take opportunity to eradicate a true threat. Iraq was just Bush trying to settle a family score after Saddam sent assassins to kill his father.

The Jews warned America not to go after Iraq as Iraq under the Baath party was a stabilising force that kept the Shia in balance. Saudi said the same.

I feel Iran will attack a US base tonight and invite kasala upon themselves

Iran have a lot of short range missiles that cannot reach Israel but can reach US bases in the region, and I'm sure they want to show their ego with what they have

IjeBos:
Too many labels. From terrorist to anti-war to pro-war.
What do any of them even mean?
Everyone should be against war or in order words, death and destruction if it doesn't serve a purpose and if there are other means to serve the same goal.

Matthew 5:9: "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God"

The peacemaker is Israel who have great relations with all their Sunni neighbours (Jordan, Saudi etc) who attacked them in 1948 and 1967. Because they have shown themselves to be a reasonable and dependent state

The war makers are Iran who through their terrorist network have wiped out the Christian population of Lebanon in the 1980s, wiped out Sunnis in many jurisdictions in the Middle East., wiped out swathes and oppress the 65% Sunni population of Yemen through the Houthis, wiped out families, kids and dogs in Israel out of nowhere via Hamas and attacking Israel from North, South and East. A genocidal death cult regime who only a bleeding heart would consider ignoring in the name of calling himself an ignorant peacemaker while that person is actively pursuing your destruction and genocide in words and deed.

The Sunni countries of the Arab world are praying for Israel triumph over the coming days and weeks.

LordAdam16:
E shock you say Leftists are anti-war ba?
An age-old tradition.

Anywhere-belle-face Jon Snow.

😂😃

-Lord

I'm not shocked, they have always been. Extreme right being antiwar is the new phenomenon.

But this is not antiwar, it's stewp√dity like refusing to fire on Boko Haram and calling yourself anti-war, you must be boooonkers

IjeBos:
[s]Who gets to decide who is a terrorist and who isn't?
Who gets to decide whose assassination is moral or whose is an act of terrorism?
Who gets to decide who are Prisoners and who are Hostages?

I don't see in what world you can label Iran a terrorist state and not label Israel a terrorist state as well.\
One can't both argue that power is right then get upset when other people use their power to create their right.

What right did Israel have to attack Iran and destroy their Nuclear program?
Doesn't Israel have a Nuclear weapons?
So, what makes them the decider of what anyone else does?

I'm not a fan of Iran, but it is clear what Israel is doing.
In order for them to be the top dog they can't let anyone else in the area progress technologically.
This is what this is about.
In order to wipe out the Palestinians and claim their land they have to have no one who can challenge them.

This whole thing is similar to colonialism and the belief that there are certain people who are created better than other people.
And thus believe their lives hold more worth and thus have the right to control and determine how others live.

If anyone in the region cares about Nuclear weapons, they should give up their nuclear weapons and then make the case for no one having Nuclear weapons.

That's not what Israel is doing.[/s]

Ain't got time for this

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BlueRayDick:
I saw one thread yesterday where they used AI to UnCloth Arya Starr pictures. Omo, wetin AI go cause for this generation, only God knows the extent it will get.

Send us the thread abeg. I want help Uganda President son check something

seankafor:
Israel stays in Syrian and Jordanian airspace to rain mi*siles on Iran (because they have puppets there) it's not that Israel have their airplane 🛫✈️ on Iran airspace standby..

Comot for Ayatollah page and enter unbiased military twitter account that shows all hits

Shall I recommend a page for you, or you like living in delusion?

OAM4J:
A whole Ibime !

Na you people dey look for Ibime's trouble now o.

When he vex and start castrating you people home and away next season... make una no cry say una no get erection again o

They all beat me but somehow can't make Playoffs while I do consistently. Maybe na Ghosts dey give me points

PrinceEma:
Small isreal for that matter....

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The way the IAF are strikimg those trucks. It must be cumbersome transporting rhose launchers in tbose heavy trucks. Lol

I just pity the innocent Dangote cement Truck drivers in Iran that may be mistaken for launcher transporters. If na my work be that, my oga no go see me for a few months oh

LordAdam16:
Russia has captured four Ukrainian Oblasts and has started capturing territory in Sumy and Dnipro.

Jon Snow must always represent.

Russia marched through those Oblasts unchallenged in the first 2 weeks of the war, then retreated back there when Ukraine got themselves together .

Since then Ukraine has taken more square footage than Russia

So if Russia wants to spend 10 years on a matter that should take take two weeks and you are still capping 3.5 years later, e no concern you if Israel wants to spend 3 weeks or 10 years on a matter. Israel work in Iran should put Russia to shame. Israel achieved air superiority in 2 days that Russia can't do in 3.5 years and decimated command structures and tactical assets in 3 days that Russia has not been able to do in 3.5 years. That's the difference between fighting with real intelligence and parking 40 mile convoy of Trucks in a line outside Kiev like say we still dey World War 1.

A40:

SO BE IT pic.twitter.com/N7mCzaXDhs

— Pusha & Malice (@clipse) June 17, 2025

Ibime do you fvck with Clipse? What do you think of their new jam

Nah I.never did. Their stuff is just above basic

Using WWE analogy, they are like dem 8th to 10th place contenders for Intercontinental belt. I can't be wasting time on that when Mr Perfect, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon and Brett Hart full everywhere

I like rappers who rap about drug dealing but only those who do so in a very funny way, Clipse have limited wit

bemeruca:
I understand all of that. The fact is, Russia has better equipment than China, along with a lack of combat experience on China's part.

Israel is so effective because of the challenges it has faced over the years. Only the U.S. and Israel are truly refining their combat strategies.

I don't trust China. I'm not saying they aren't capable, I just believe they might be overhyped.

Russia HAD better equipment than China

China is not a country you expect the same standards as you saw 2 years ago

They are learning every single detail from the Ukraine war and the Israel war. You best believe everything to do with drone and missile technology, dem get am nyafu

As do the Taiwanese which is why taking Taiwan by sea invasion won't be an easy feat. Taiwan will greet every Chinese ship with 100 drones and every Chinese plane with 10 anti aircraft missiles. Taiwan have even rigged their beaches with incendiary flammable liquids they can release on the beach in case of an invasion. If China tries to overwhelm them with missiles, they also have missiles for the dam on the Yangtze river to flood whole cities in China. The Taiwan fight will be a massive one, they can't be wasting goodwill on Iran

Meanwhile your boy Trump needs to hurry up instead of telegraphing the Iran situation on Twitter. Now he is sending JD Vance to write long letters to born yesterday MAGAs who don't know their left from right. In any war situation like this, once a major power steps in, other major powers keep away. I don't think Russia have the capacity nor China the will to step in but he better make it fast. Even Pakistan or Turkey stepping in could stop America from doing so. Israel has put everything on a plate for him to just blow the Fordow plant, he should show decisiveness

bemeruca:
We thought Russia was some kind of force till Ukraine open their tansh.

Chinese equipments failed against India.
Hamas and Hezbollah did better than Iran.

See how Iran's generals are dying like flies. Some are on the job for only two days.

Israel now has air superiority over Iran. Let that sink in.

Mossad is operating very well in Iran. The US cannot pull this off

i give it to the Israelis but that one no concern China

China have a big fight coming against an island of 10 million people called Taiwan that won't be child's play

They can't be wasting goodwill on Iran matter now. China still has money to make and can't jeopardise that

You simply can't play down any country with their industrial capacity when it comes to war. War is about production

nateevs:
Joker. Only one party is begging for big Uncle Sam to join the party after being smacked the fvck in the face by a near peer.

The other day they were boasting about how they took 200 F35i aircrafts to the sky in the delivery of Operation Rising Lion. They were patting themselves on the back, clapping and cheering.

Only ignoramus like you have not known for years that the likes of Iran, Russia and China have prioritised IBM projects over trillion dollar F35s.

Only ignoramus like you who only follow Fox News have not known for years that Iran has been preparing for this for years, and always knew that Israel was always going to do this. You think they didn't prepare?

Last year Oct 1st you were celebrating Iron Dome shooting down 300 BMs sent to Israel by Iran, calling it an abject failure.......but conveniently, very conveniently excluding essential facts that No.1, Israel had help, and No 2, that Iran gave a 3-hour warning, so that Israel could get help, and No 3, Iran did not send any Hypersonic BMs.

Israel is now seeing a near-peer in full glory, not helpless women and children.......and they are scrambling all over the place for assistance from Uncle America.

You now see what it looks like with no advance warning, you feel exactly what Gazans have been feeling for over 500 days.

Arrogant fools. Please please ask the US not to join this, and see if Iran will not knock Israel back to the stone ages. I told you Iran will overwhelm Israel. You were arguing with me.

Ogbeni park well and make peace with the fact that the terrorists are being decimated. Terrorism no fit you or anyone who claims to cherish "freedoms". Since Iran wants to behave like a Boko Haram instead of a normal state, they should get the Bolo Haram treatment. Ukraine were minding their business, they went to provide massive drones to kill Ukrainians. Israel were minding their business, they sent terrorists from all angles at Israel to be killing women and children and civilians. Saudi were minding their business, they sent Houthis to be bombing Saudi refineries. Iran regime is not regime any reasonable person should cap for. Make we drop you inside Tel Aviv 2 years ago, or drop you inside camp of Houthis, Hezbollahs or any of their terrorists, make we see which one you choose.

bemeruca:
Nah, Putin has just informed Iran that they are on their own. As a result, Iran is pleading with Qatar, Oman, and Saudi Arabia to help facilitate communication with the U.S. to persuade Israel to stop their actions.

It won't be long before Iran loses the ability to launch their ballistic missiles.

Iran is now desperate to return to negotiations, but it too little, too late.

We can clearly see that Russia is a paper tiger, and Iran also. It is reasonable to say that China will also prove to be a paper tiger in the future.

Nothing concern China in the matter. Why would they jeopardise their money for Iran matter. They are no paper tiger at all, dem just get sense to know when to take risk or not.

seankafor:
bro, most of your takes on this conflict is incoherent and too ragtag..you just spring words and sentences without coherence ..

Your takes are mainly borne out of emotions instead of logic and facts..

Someone told you they Israel are fleeing to Cyprus and you re saying that they have bunkers..
What is the correlation between bunkers and people fleeing a warzone..?

You no go calm down

This morning you said Iran has developed daytime missile capability despite the fact Iran could only release 20 missiles very early in the morning after being harassed and hiding from Israeli planes all night to get a safe place to finally launch the 20 in the early morning

Now the whole day is gone without any more launch, back to vampire ways

Just know before Iran release those missiles dozens of nuccas, transport vehicles and operatives done die for ground. Much respect to the few nuccas who manage to launch missile knowing any second of being in the truck with those missiles, parking the truck and loading the missiles could be their last when a plane spots them