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Good idea. . . the last NL WC fantasy league was won by some Egyptian dude in Cairo. . . . oya, count me in and send me ma code. . .

Joke Cole managed to get £10k more than Chelsea offered him. . . . he must be laughing to the bank. 

tkb417:
THis is waht i want to see
not some useless asists

According to Ibime, Zidane only became a hero against Brasil
abeg, all these individual awards, how many of them were against Brasil or how many of them were taken at the 1998 world cup
smh in disbelief

^^^ All those awards are perceptions formed from International tournaments. . . .awards are not the be all and end all, otherwise Zidane is better than Maradona who only won 1 WPOTY award. , . . .  like Dayo and I rightly pointed out, there is no way Zidane was the best footballer in 1998 and 2000. . . . ask yourself why Zizou has only once been player of the year in Italy and Spain. . . . the greatest player in the world cannot even be the best in his own league?.  . . . .  . . anyway, forget this old story. . . .lets move on. . .

Why would a minister be washing her family's dirty laundry in public like a common tout?

If Soludo is disturbing her life, she should report him to Police and take appropriate action as befits her position as minister of the Republic.

Abi are our ministers telling us that they themselves are powerless under the law of the land?

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=480682.msg6405803#msg6405803 date=1279462567]Bayern Munich used this same formation throughout last season to reach the CL-final.[/quote]Bayern play 4-2-3-1 with Muller tucked behind Olic. . .

^^^Onovo wey just start work yesterday. Im sure hes only been in charge for ~ 9 months. He cant be responsible for something thats been happening long before his time.

4 Play:
To restate the money supply argument in its simplest form:

Paddy Lo: [/b]Growth in M2, given stable exchange rate, indicates steady GDP growth
[b]4 Play: [/b]Growth in M2 does not indicate steady GDP growth as alternative causes, particularly inflation, can explain M2 growth.

OK, lets rearrange this debate into you guys TRUE point of contention:


Here we have the formula:

[b]
Money Supply x Velocity of Money = GDP

(GDP = average price of goods x no of economic transactions)



So, holding velocity of money as constant, the argument roughly translates to:


4Play: M2 growth could cause inflation (rise in price), rather than GDP growth.

Paddylo: Growth in M2, given stable exchange rate, indicates GDP growth.  



So in other words, you are saying that Paddylo's argument filters down to:


Paddylo: Stable exchange rate nuances the effect of inflation on GDP growth.



Paddylo, Can we hold this statement as the main bone of contention in the argument, or have you been misquoted?


I am ready to open the floor for you guys to debate the above statement. . .

Una still dey here dey argue?

I think both of y'all should be magnanimous enough to concede that both arguments have merit. You are simply arguing over 2 of the 4 variables of the equation of exchange.

This argument is just going round in circles:

Paddylo: We can extrapolate GDP from Money Supply.

4Play: We cannot extrapolate GDP from Money supply. . . . unless we also know the Velocity of Money and Price (inflation).


I think both of y'all are just agreeing with each other. . . . but making an argument out of it! 

Please tell that to the NFF whose insistence on hiring Lagerback was based on the theory that "they wanted to see Nigeria go back to their successful 4-4-2 formation". The hapless suits at the NFF lauded the superiority of the 4-4-2, decrying Nigerias lack of success since Super Eagles switched to 4-3-3. . . . conveniently forgetiing that Nigeria only had success with 4-4-2 when everyone else was playing 4-4-2.

Needless to say, in the end, Lagerback was left looking like a tactical dinosaur.

Manchester United remain possibly the only big team left who still employ the 4-4-2 formation, although they do not move in straight lines like regular 4-4-2 teams. It is also pertinent to note that they always switch to 4-3-3 when playing against big teams.

Brilliant article by the way.

dayokanu:
Take this world cup as an example and tell us how many goals or assists Xavi had, Not meaningless passes to Casilass, Pique Puyol and Busquets

And that is the reason why Spain only conceded 2 goals in the tourney. . . how many goals you want score when the opposition has 80% possession?

Leave matter for Mathias. . . . if in any doubt how Xavi brutalises all opposition midfielders, please go and ask Sneijder and Schweinsteiger.

It was Xavi that gave Sauron mouth to be dissing Schweinsteiger sef. Ozil had looked like Maradona up until Xavi starved him of possession and turned him into a hapless lummox. 

Its getting hot in here. . . .

All I would add is that if you get into a debate with 4Play, make sure you are coming with an arsenal of weapons!

Dr Kit, na so Eyoniggar & dem affect you reach?. . . only Dr Kit can bring Wande Coal into Zizou debate. . . .Classic. . . . abeg make pesin check whether Dr Kit is typing while intoxicated!


Xavi is still looking for recognition @ age 30?. . . . only to the uninformed!. . . . Xavi doesnt have time for flamboyancy. . . although I have an idea what Xavi can do to gain such recognition. . . . he needs to headbutt someone in the next World Cup final!!!

dayokanu:
Barcelona and Spain dominating possession without creating scoring chances mean nothing.

If you are trying to pidgeonhole Xavi as a pretty but ineffective midfielder, please name any other player who created 50 assists in the last 2 season. . . please do not quote player from Albanian league! 

According to OPTA statistics, he is the leading creator of chances in La Liga (109) and in the Champions League (37).

If 27 assists in 08/09 is ineffective, please tell me how effective is Zidane's career high of 14 assists in 2000/2001 at Juventus?

Zidane in his whole Real Madrid career never made more than 9 assists per season. His assist total at Real is 38 assists over 5 seasons. . . . compare with Xavi, 50 assists in last two seasons alone.


You dont have a prayer!

Dr Kitaun:
I always believe u had a brain, but with this statement of urs I am tempted to think Eyonitwit and Khanye are far ahead of u in terms of intellectual capacities !!!


The world went numb when ZIZOU headbutted Mate-rubbish, if Xavi does same to a player, how many people do u think will be bovvered ?

What does this have to do with anything Dr Kartoon?

I see that Zidanes flair for the dramatic is the allure for you, much like Gerrard's flair for the dramatic had you hailing him as one of the greatest.

What else do you expect the world to say when one of the most decorated players of his time goes bananas on the greatest stage of all, in his final match as a footballer.

I guess the whole cinematography of the event is what oils your fantasies. 

Anyway, how does this explain the fact that some lummoxes like Dr Kartoon think Zizou to be the 3rd greatest player of all time behind Pele and Maradona, when he is not even the greatest in his country or the greatest in his generation? 

9ice just dey sing nonsense these days.

[quote author=tosinaded@ link=topic=479598.msg6396315#msg6396315 date=1279287770]HE MEANT AN ALBUM AND A MIXTAPE!
M.I IS NOT A BATTLE RAPPER JOR. . . . . . .

GHETTO P
ICE BERG SLIM
MODENINE
VECTOR
MAXIMUM
KELLY HANSOME

WILL EAT HIM IN A BATTLE!

GBAM[/quote]I cannot bet that any of these would eat MI in a battle. . . . MI has the lyrical dexterity to give someone an arse whooping. . . . no think say because him dey do fine boy. . . .I would only say that he should be wary of Ice Berg, and Modenizzy of course. . .


Vector?. . . . hahahaha. . . .

Ghetto P?. . . . hahaha. . .   

As for Kelly Handsome, only local touts feel his local raps. . . im dey try form yankee, but he lacks polish and wit. . . . if Kennis wasnt backing him, who is he to step to MI?. . . .he doesnt have the lyrical skills, but he has the politics behind him. . . .

hmmm. . . . .that Toolz hold something no be small. . . she kom fine on top.

State of emergency should be announced in Nigeria as a whole. . . . but in the meantime, Abia State will do just fine!

Unknown soldiers. . . dem done kill Latma man o. . . unknown soldiers. . . .

Taio Cruz is a punk with all his tuneless autotune tracks and bootyless bohemian white gurls. Plus Im sure he wears lipstick with those his pink lips. Gay fish!

debosky:
When oil production dominates national income to the extent that it does in Nigeria, increase in oil production will often dwarf decreases observed in other areas.

Those advocating manufacturing output, house prices and other such measures don't appear to be fully considering the overwhelming dependence of the economy on oil receipts.

The examples given in the businessday report simply point to negative growth in the individual sectors mentioned - banking, manufacturing, vehicle imports, etc and not necessarily the economy as a whole. While those decreases may be valid, their contribution to the overall economic output is what will determine whether they are sufficient to counteract the increase in oil exports.

Without seeing the details of the NBS' analysis, it's not clear how realistic or otherwise their assessment of growth is.

Oil exports alone cannot drive Nigerias GDP up 7% in one quarter. We cant discount increased Govt spending in the first quarter nor return of foreign capital to our capital markets. . . . that is of course if the statistics are correct.

Keep the gossips (usually female inlaws) at arms length.

Otherwise, just be yourself.

dayokanu:
The same tactics Quieroz used on Xavi and he became sterile best midfielder in Europe No assist, no through pass, No shot at goal.

Spreading the ball to his goalkeeper and defender, If Xavi cant make on through pass in 180mins of football and he is the best midfielder in 5 yrs?

Have you seen what happens when midfielders try to go toe to toe against Xavi rather than defending for their lives? I will refer you to Barca vs Bayern Munchen in 08/09.

The system of packing 10 defenders on the edge of the box was invented specifically to deal with Xavi.

Well done to Dangote. . . . he's doing big things. . . .

^^^ Consistency is based on the denominator of how many games you played. Ronaldo was consistent throughout his career. Almost every season he played, he smashed it.

hehehe. . . . this debate has gone to pot.

Speaking of Ronaldo, some lummoxes like Dr Kartoon have placed Zidane as 3rd greatest player of all time behind Pele and Maradona. This disconnect between myth and reality is frightening. Zidane isnt even the greatest player of his generation for that honour goes to Ronaldo Lima. Zidane is not even the greatest French player, for that honour goes to Platini. We havent even started talking of guys like Cruyff, Eusebio, Beckenbaur, Di Stefano, Puskas etc. This just goes to show that Zidane is more myth than reality.


I believe Dayokanu said this in April:

dayokanu:
The century that ended in 1999, Zidane wasnt even at his peak then and many ppl even thought Del Piero was better than him at that point.

You are right. The third greatest player of all time was being outshone by Del Piero, Ronaldo and Figo on a regular in the late 1990's.

In the 2000's he largely wasted his career with Real Madrid, strolling around the pitch for 90 minutes, and having only 1 UCL and 1 league title to show for his time there.

Lets face it. . . . Zidane's legend was made by 2 lucky headers in the WC final. How come Zidane had been playing footie for 10 years before tkb heard of him?

I doubt we would place him above Romario and Baggio if not for his slice of luck in the 1998 WC final.

tkb417:
story!

never knew u'll find an excuse for when he was was outplayed

yes outplayed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get d hell outta ma face

And how was he outplayed?. . . possession stats were in favour of Barca for most of the match. . . . Real had just won the league and it was basically a dead rubber. . . . possession stats were 51% to Barca as at 70 mins before they just allowed the game to go. . . . whats next, will you quote friendly matches for us?  

Im sure it took you all day to find that one example sef.  

dayokanu:
Ibime, This doesnt make sense.

Arsenal dominate possesion almost everytime they play Chelsea does that mean Cesc dominated Essien in the midfield? or Diaby dominated Lampard

Momo Sissoko bossed and ripped out Xavi over 2 legs in the CL second round in 2007. The same this Scholes and co did in 2008. or tell us how many chances Xavi led midfield created in the whole game vs Manure over 2 legs

No team will win every game they play. . . .from a midfielders point of view, you have played your part as long as you dominate the midfield. . . . yes, Fabregas dominates almost every game he plays in the EPL. . . if Arsenal are susceptible to counter-attacks, thats not his fault.

tkb417:
can you remember the answer you gave me when i asked the same question some months back?

dont be mentally lazy my friend

get on the internet and do the needful

Xavi didnt do jack in those games. dont say i didnt tell you

Try Again!. . . BTW, this game was a dead rubber. . . .Real had already won the league and nothing to play for.

tkb417:
The Copa del rey game with Getafe in 2006/7 (2nd leg)
Have u heard of Javier Casquero b4?
rated 2nd behind Guiza on performance index for the match


2007/8 season
away game to Real Madrid
where wesley Scheider and Arjen Robben shyted on all the midfielders of Barca

your darling Xavi got sent off in the match when he got confused

Give us the possession stats. . . no be say dem say dem say. . . please produce!!!

dayokanu:
Line up for the 2006 finals show Xavi on the bench. Messi was injured and we knew he didnt feature but Xavi was fit enough for the bench but wasnt considered good enough

Barcelona: Valdes, Oleguer (Belletti 71), Marquez, Puyol, Van Bronckhorst, Deco, Edmilson (Iniesta 45), Van Bommel (Larsson 61), Giuly, Eto'o, Ronaldinho.
Subs Not Used: Jorquera, Motta, Xavi, Sylvinho.

Drop it. . . Xavi was just returning from injury and was only fit enough for the bench. . . just admit you goofed. . .

@ Sauron,

Xavi is the only player that can make Sneijder quit football and take up karate, as he was doing in the WC final.  

The same Sneijder is being mentioned as a WPOTY contender!

BTW, Xavi must be a contender for DEFENDER of the year. If your team dominates 80% possession on a regular, you have done 80% of the work for the defence. Thats why Spain won the World Cup with the lowest ever goals scored (8 goals. . . 2nd lowest is 11 goals). When well known liabilities like Puyol and Capdevilla go through a World Cup conceding only 2 goals, you know its because the opposition couldnt touch the ball, not because they are brilliant defenders.


Just admit it. . . you lot have never seen a central midfielder as dominant as Xavi. . . . if na lie, kindly produced stats from any match since 2005 where Xavi didnt dominate the midfield!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=362607.msg6391586#msg6391586 date=1279212000]There's none. . . . . .even against Inter Milan last season. . . . .Xavi stood tall and he urinated all over the Inter midfield.[/quote]Dont even mention that match. . . possession stats was 86% - 14%.

Lets face it, every so often a player comes along who completely redefines his position.

Beckenbaur redefined the libero role, Makalele redefined the DM role, and Xavi redefined the CM role.

Never in your life would you find a midfielder who won every single midfield battle. What Xavi is doing right now is extraterrestrial.

At least in Zidane's time, we still get to see the likes of Rui Costa, Seedorf, Roy Keane, Aimar, Veron etc shine against him quite frequently. . . . defensive midfielders like Albelda, Baraja lock him down on a regular.

In Xavi's time since 2005, no single midfielder came out of any match claiming to have won midfield battle with Xavi.

And I am still waiting for guys to show me a single match.

MI would be committing career suicide if he goes to war with Iceberg Slim.

Infact, I dont think MI wanna cross that line.

dayokanu:
In the 2006 CL final He didnt even make an appearance in the biggest match of the season and you say he is the best midfielder of the past 5 seasons

Van Bommel, Deco, Edmilson even Iniesta made appearances but your best midfielder was deemed not good enough.

In 2006 CL when all the big boyz were around how many important games did Xavi play? Best midfielder for 5 seasons? I laff seriously Compare that to Zidane and tell me any important match Zidane was benched in his whole career

Will you stop yarning nonsense. . . Xavi tore his ligaments and was out for months. . . dem no born Edmilson and Van Bommel well to collect place from Xavi.


My challenge remains: Please name any single match Xavi played from 2005 till date where his midfield didnt dominate possession.

We all have access to internet. It shouldnt be hard to find.

As for Zidane, I have already mentioned several games where he was bossed in midfield.

tkb is here mentioning that Zizou won 3 WPOTY. Did Platini not win 2 in a row? The punk even has the nerve to mention that Zizou won 1998 WC single-handedly when Zizou was suspended for 3 games, and only scored 2 lucky headers in the final. Like I said, if you dont know what single-handedly means, please go and check Garrincha's WC performance in 1962, Maradona in 86 or Ronaldo in 2002. . . . or Platini's performance in Euro 84. . . single-handedly ko, single-handedly ni.

Someone who tells me that both Zizou and Xavi started their career in 1998. What will I not hear on NL? 

Some other punk is here mentioning De La Pena. . . . I shall leave his conscience to judge him!