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Theflint1:
Put this prompt on ChatGPT and you'd see they're not outperforming like that...pretty much at par with Nigeria's average population growth.

"Can I get a comparison of population of Nigerian states in 1991 and now in 2025....include percentage increase too. Want it in table format"

The state that has been overburdened with "migration" would be Abuja, then Yobe, you've directed your administrative performance worship in the wrong direction...look to the North.

Abuja started from a population of nearly zero so it's obvious if you have a STEM brain that low denominator equals high percentage growth. Yobe will be those fleeing Borno

Lagos is outperforming handsomely on the 20m state number and very well even on the 17m, and most importantly, a good portion of migration is by economically empowered migrants, unlike Yobe that is absorbing Borno people that don't have 2 pennies

Amigoss:
Even the Lagos don dey lose its population to Ogun State boundary communities,Ibadan(Oyo) and some dey relocate back to their village because of the harsh Tinubu economy,high rent and high cost of living in Lagos

Supply and demand. If you keep rushing, rent will keep rising.

Theflint1:
They're simply outperforming and not performing the way you initially suggested, no be only Lagos population dey grow, and Nigeria's entire population can't be growing and Lagos would magically be insulated from that growth. Lagos is contributing its fair share, and not much more.

They are outperforming handsomely and you are one of the immigrants rushing it.

The State population is estimated at 20m, the City at 17m

Theflint1:
Semantics it is then, but the point is Lagos isn't doing any population growth that's significantly different from Nigeria's average population growth, 2.6X and 3.3X not some crazy difference so let's die that talk of Lagos bearing Nigeria's entire population growth and migration burden.

By population growth they are outperforming and by landmass, they should have stopped growing because Lagos was full at 5m, talkless of 20m. Lagos is the smallest state in Nigeria

Theflint1:
You said Lagos's population has quadrupled since 1991, implying a 400% population growth, using your STEM brain only, how did you arrive at that number?

20/5, should be simple since I've been calling 20 since

And by the way a 4x is 300% growth, not 400%, Mr STEM

Theflint1:
According to Wikipedia, Lagos' population in 1991 was 5.2M persons, and in 2025 it is 17.2M persons, that's like 2.3X population growth and not the 4X you allege...Lagos' population is not growing any more than Nigeria's average population, and I'd harangue a guess that there'd be at least 10 states that have since 1991 experienced a larger percentage growth in population than Lagos.

What is 17.2m/5.2m

At least your STEM brain should tell you there are three 5s in 15 so there cannot be only two 5s in 17

Nigeria 229/89 is 2.6x vs Lagos 17.2/5.2 is 3.3x to be clear using official figures. I was using the oft cited 20m and I believe official figures for Lagos are untracked and underreported while Nigeria population is overinflated.

Theflint1:
If Tinubu was governor of Osun State, and not Lagos, can you beat your chest and say Osun state would have today become a destination of choice in Nigeria? Big cities are big cities and they'd always be choice destinations...the governors of New York and California would always execute the biggest projects, doesn't necessarily mean they're pound-for-pound the best administrators.

Good leadership is by maximising your competitive advantage and among all State Governors since 1999, none has grasped the concept of maximising his state advantage like Tinubu. Lagos advantage is it's international airport, it's port and it's headquartering of financial institutions. To maximise such an advantage requires clear tax and financial structures, security, business tourism and infrastructure where those financial institutions are located. He provided that and more such that there has been no bleed to Abuja like there was in the 1990s, rather Capital flight to Lagos from all corners of Nigeria and abroad. This is someone who has studied economics and financial management and enacted strategies to make his state the go to destination for capital, while your typical Nigerian Governor was setting up "structure" to include suppression, assassination squads, persecution of rivals and seizing of property to make their states unattractive to capital. If Tinubu was typical, Lagos will stay contributing 10% of GDP like it was in the 1990s, not 35% you find it now.

Using your core advantages requires foresight. Dubai and Qatar are not stupid to focus on airlines and tourism. They are strategically located exactly halfway between two trading behemoths, Europe and East Asia and their strategy is centred around people needing to break up the journey between those destinations, hence they started with airlines and airport hubs. Everything you are seeing today is a direct descendant of that strategy. In some cases, planes cannot fly direct without stopping and they are a perfect stopping point, and from there they extended the packages to tourism and financial services. That is vision which none of their neighbours were able to grasp. Saudi is only trying to grasp it now. Saddam was too busy fighting with his oil wealth when Dubai were building out their strategy, same way your state Governor was deploying militants and fighting opps when Tinubu was building out.

What is your state competitive advantage and how did your Governor capitalise on it. Let's take Onitsha as a market town with Obi, or Rivers State and Delta States with their oil facilities. Did Odili cut out a portion of Rivers State for oil coys and incentivise them to headquarter or was he busy arming Ateke to finish his opps and adding to the insecurity that drove them to Lagos?

TemporaryHansel:
So why do you wail when Trump tries to remove ungrateful immigrants from USA? You're an hypocrite.

Raumdeuter if ibime drop those him posts for American thread again just screenshot this page reply am.

If you can show me where I joined in that immigration discussion, please quote it, or is it this like your lamba court case with BlueRay yesterday with no evidence.

And BTW I'm not an immigrant, but I don't curse the land where I'm seeking bread if no be my fatherland

TemporaryHansel:
You are telling people to go back to their state, why don't you return to your state first?

I done already agree say my State no get good Governance like Lagos or wherever I'm at now. I'm not an ungrateful immigrant that curse the land where I seek opportunity

TemporaryHansel:
People who supported Tinubu because he “developed Lagos” will always be a case study in unserious logic.
Now Ibime’s here calling Lagos a small state, and I’m like, exactly! If Lagos is small, then Tinubu’s so-called “success” was in a manageable sandbox.
How did anyone in their right mind think a man who only juggled a “small Lagos” could magically transform the entire chaos that is Nigeria?
Let’s be honest: Tinubu can't develop Osun State if you hand it to him as a governor.
His development can only happen in Lagos, and we all know why.
But hey, keep chanting “he built Lagos” it’s cute watching delusion wear agbada.

It's a small land, only 60% of the size of Ebonyi State with 20m people living there. Try developing infrastructure, transport, waste management in such small space to cater for so many people. Go back to your state and let them breathe, instead you came to profit from what they are building and talking rubbish.

Theflint1:
Excuses. People were migrating to Lagos before Tinubu even thought to take night bus there.

I simply stated that since 1999, Tinubu is arguably the worst governor in Lagos' history, and he ran the worst version of the city and did so right till the end of his tenure.

Lagos population has quadrupled since FCT was moved to Abuja. Nigeria population by comparison has only 2.5x. Una dey rush am.

Lagos contributed 10% of Nigerias GDP in 1991 when FCT was moved to Abuja, today it contributes 35%. So clearly the acceleration in growth has been outside the ambit of FCT designation.

Tinubu was only the start of Government. FASH. Ambode and Sanwo are his continuum along the system he created. When Tinubu was building an economy, your principal was buying share in beer factory that's why Anambrarians are running to Lagos today.

There is no comparison in performance. Lagos stands alone as the only State that can function independently and is a net contributor to Federal Government coffers, one of the reasons all your useless State Governors were mad at VAT remittance changes recently.

In 1980s and 1990s, the whole of Lekki was swamp, today they built it out so you can bring money from your useless states to come and live and grow their economy. In 1990s we used to fear going to Lagos but had to out of necessity as it was the only Southern Airport that flew out of Nigeria. They always warn us then to go straight to airport to avoid agberos that Lagos is teeming with agberos. When we arrive Lagos, we dare not even go buy Suya without being accosted. All those agberos were turned into productive citizens in a tax collection system while states with much fewer agberos in the 1990s saw their bad boys turn into militants, kidnappers and bandits. That is vision.

Theflint1:
Was Lagos an orderly city during Tinubu's tenure?

Why are you there?

For 20m in that small space, they are trying.

Most importantly, they have built a sustainable economy and revenue streams that can feed one million people well. The ambition to be part of that 1 million is why the other 19 million people are there. They come from States that can only feed 50,000 people well.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Nobody said it here nau

They were on their own, Atiku's SA brought the agenda.

Be a just man, sire.[/color]

The lamba has been repeated many times by Obidients here

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Wetin concern Obidients nau? [/color]

Na dem be the source of the lamba even though it's coming from a Wazirite

TemporaryHansel:
Let’s set the record straight: Tinubu did NOT develop Lagos, and we won’t sit back while people try to rewrite history with vibes and propaganda.
Lagos was Nigeria’s capital for 60 years. That alone gave it a massive head start in infrastructure, funding, and national presence.
Abuja’s only been FCT for about 40 years and already, no state comes close - now imagine Lagos with two extra decades of federal focus.
Truth is, Lagos was always going to be ahead, with or without Tinubu.
They should stop dressing federal legacy as personal achievement. He inherited momentum, not built it from scratch.

Anyone who went to Lagos in the 1990s will poopoo on this theory. Obidients should stop this.

https://www.theafricareport.com/17906/lagos-was-an-orderly-city-until-1991-then-city-planners-left-for-abuja/

Unlimited22:
Destroyer
Controller
Creator

All 3 are No1 in each of their respective roles

Makelele, Xavi, KDB is the ultimate midfield 3

AirBere:
The only player who can defend well on that block is Rijkaard and I love defensive stability. In a 4:2:3:1, I'll start him as my DM in a double pivot with Yaya Toure. In the #10 role I'll play Zidane but I feel Iniesta offers more control. Yaya stopped playing as a DM when he left Barca in 2009/2010. Paired with Barry, Dejong, Fernandinho and sometimes played as a 10 since he moved to city.

4:3:3. Iniesta...Rijkaard....Yaya is my choice.

AM is not where control comes from. An AM is someone who burst opposition defensive lines not controlling the ball, and Iniesta was both a poor controller and a poor attacker

Control comes from CM and DM

Griffon:
Yaya Modric De Bruyne

Rijkaard Modric DeBruye

Yaya no like that DM position

WriterrNg:
2023 & 2024 nko?

Shey Trump na President dat time?

Ruble performance in 23 and 24 was abysmal always flirting around 100 with Central Bank spending tens of billions buying ruble stop it exploding

Then and till now, Ruble is subject to capital restrictions meaning it's not freely traded and can't be swapped for other currencies

WriterrNg:
Ibime

Because Trump said he wants to do business with Russia this week. America their father

Fed will soon need to print money to buy it's own bonds with the way bond rates keep rising

Gucciboy:
Aston villa will face angry Manchester united on Sunday.

I doubt that. The Old Trafford atmosphere will be toxic as their fans turn on the players, coach and board

All these long epistles na waste of energy. No Governors, no mandate. Like I said, it was Buharis refusal to use the machinery of Federal Government to rig that gave Atiku and Obi hope in the last election. Tinubu will do no such thing. To paraphrase Afrodoc, without doing electoral Mathematics, you labour in vain

Niggas better accept Tinubu till 2031 and plan their lives within those parameters

In the words of the old Lutherian prayer "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference"

User09:
I dey talk this thing that time say the guy no serious, Ibime dey follow me argue.

The pointers were there when the guy wanted to swoop in with dirty tricks and bid for Chelsea. I'll still take Boehly and all his dirty shenanigans to this una Ratcliffe.

Hopefully you guys do better next season and actually end up in relegation

Radcliffe has had one summer transfer window wnd brought in DeLigt, Yoro, Mazruoai, Ugarte, Dorgu and Zirkzee. All very serviceable players except Zirkzee and spent very good money on them

Any spending restrictions on Manure are PSR restrictions from the days of their wasteful spending on Antony, Casemiro and co

Radcliffe is spending good money. Also he's a minority owner. As you know any transfer target must be counter funded by the Glazers equivalent to their shareholdings (72%), so aside PSR, Glazers are still the main contributors to player spend.

Amigoss:
What if he is not lying,see as you dey dirty your guy,I hope he somehow finds this...Despite say your guy useless,still you Youkay people are never beating the allegations,....Two truth can co-exist.

I know who I am talking about and why I said it. The guy is notorious in our circle.

He is not lying, but some problems are small enough to resolve within your immediate circle without going outside. He has 6 brothers for crying out loud, why wash your dirty clothes in public to someone you haven't seen in 27 years means he has exhausted all his beggi beggi which he does often, even putting hundreds of people in group chat for donations when his mum died last year. This is a grown man and I've made sure to limit my interventions to big life events such as his wedding, two life saving surgeries for his son running into million and his mother's funeral. Same guy asked me for rent some years ago and I told him I don't pay rents. His talk now is he just struggled to pay rent and can't pay for his son's stitches. After how many years will it dawn on him that he is living above his means and should cut his cloth to his size. This is a small event that should be handled between his brothers, or in-laws or even palm pay loan. Meanwhile he is living in a fairly big house and driving SUV.

Without being funny, his best friend who we grew up with in our neighborhood is a famous singer and fairly wealthy by Nigerian standards, and that one done tire for am, he no dey give am shi shi again. That shows he's exhausted all his beggi beggi.

Anything party, Richarlison will be leading even if he no kick ball all season. Chicken dance man.

This should take Manure out of the running for Liam Delap

Man like big Ange

Press have been mocking him all season but like he keeps repeating "I always win a trophy in my 2nd year" and they kept laughing at him

Cannot wait for his press conference after the match

Solanke is just an unremarkable 5/10 striker. Nothing come out

andrewbaba44:
Man U go still win this game

Make una no stress una self

Na spurs

Manure have not beat Spurs in last 6 games and Spurs have won all 3 games this season

Would love Ange to do ntoooor to the press and drop mic with a trophy

Tor!