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debosky:
you are a dullard so I don't expect you to remember correctly

HLEB played behind the striker not Cesc.

This is all semantics. . . . Lampard was playing on the left-hand side of Scolari's diamond midfield, but we all know he was functioning as an AM. . . . What does it matter who was behind the striker on the tactics board?. . . its your team, so I wont argue. . . but thats a mute point. . .  on the pitch, Cesc had the freedom to join up with the striker more consistently than in a 4-4-2 cos Hleb would cover him. . . . should he be excused for playing poorly considering the jump from "whatever position you think he was playing in 07" to AM is not a big jump?. . . .

Adeballz,

What do you mean by Cesc was played out of position?

Which position? The position behind the striker abi left-back or right-back?

If I remember correctly, Cesc best ever run in an Arsenal shirt was when he played behind the striker in 07/08 and popped 11 goals in 13 games. . .

Unless you are talking of Cesc playing fullback or centre-back, then that excuse holds no water. .  .

For how many years have Eboue and Diaby played out of position? Shebi you would not excuse them for that. . .

HNIC:
@ Sauron
Whoever wrote that article is an idiot and
whoever believes the 100% drivel in it(where the hell is the idiot geting all those figures from, like he's Arsene Wenger's personal assistant) is a bigger idiot!
Why can't all these nitwit bloggers leave Arsenal alone

Its that idiot Sulman Ahmad from goal.com. . . . the guy specialises in writing bollocks. . . .he usually talks out of his arse. . . . but I lost all respect for him when he put Micah Richards in his Euro U-21 team of the tournament. . . .considering that his poor positioning allowed Marcus Berg to ghost in behind him twice in the semi-final against Sweden. . .

Peeps like Generalzango, Ikeyman, Ijawman and Bilymuse have corrupted this politics section with a virus. Richyblack needs to start deleting their posts on sight.

Dr Kitaun:
all this my friend wey dey play with Pele talk sef . . .

Ibime, u no dey tire

Dont watch that. . . . Im highly connected. . . . its better to ask Debosky who his "inside source" at Arsenal is. . . . Im suspecting Myles P

His uncle Dean Sturridge was on Talksport the other day saying he didnt move for money. . .

Yeah right. . . . for double his wages, Im sure the overriding factor was cash. . . . my mate Stephan said that Kelvin Etuhu told him that Dean's head has been turned by Chelsea and he believes he can establish himself, but money was the main issue. . .

The question remains. . . . if Sturridge is getting £45,000 a week, there is an incentive to play him at all costs considering the expenditure. . . . so what hope for Di Santo?

story, story. . . .

My mate who trains at Jamie Lawrence academy told me that Kelvin Etuhu was down there the other day and said that Daniel Sturridge told him that Chelsea is paying him £45,000 a week, whilst Man City were only offering £22,000

For £45,000 a week, Sturridge better be starting games for Chelsea, not chilling in the youth team. . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=157494.msg4153597#msg4153597 date=1247057729]I am not an addict. . . . .I don't need your rehabilitation.
Sauron is a vet. . . . .Vets don't set up threads(abomination!!!)
When the time is right, i would come for your head(U know how i do).[/quote]Out of sheer magnanimity and benevolence, I shall set up the thread if you so wish. . . . on condition that you drop first. . . .

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=157494.msg4153537#msg4153537 date=1247057037]I am NL's number one.
To be honest, y'all cats need rap tutorials from me.
Ya lyrics are insipid.[/quote]The indefatigable Hannibal! 

If you wanna get rehabilitated, set up a thread, drop 40 lines, and Ill come round to you. . . . my bars are already ready so as soon as I see your drop, Ill just upload em from my USB. . . . you lack the leverage to negotiate terms and conditions of the battle this time!  . . . . . go ahead, open the thread!

[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=157494.msg4153017#msg4153017 date=1247052068]Ibime is a wussie - you'll lose if you push-me, dude youse a rookie,
And the only reason you get 'all cats' is cos ur posse is full of pussys!![/quote]Dont worry. . . . a battle against IBIME would soon complete your rehabilitation process back into the comity of NL emcees. . . . . . . . . it is in my hands to decide!

I shall think over it for a minute, then decide whether to rehabilitate your sorry arse, or keep you in purgatory!

Akolawole:
@Ibi

Na you be that on your profile?

Thank God for Ibadan Police. Dem for don arrest una.

@Chelseans

Make we let JT go jare. Personally, he’s not the same JT of 5 years ago.

At anytime, Ricardo is better than him.

hehehehe. . . . chairman, where you dey since?

No be me be dat o. Na one rapper for Yankee wey dey support Chelsea.

@ Debo,

I hope you noticed that BBC is reporting RVP's new deal to be worth £80,000 per week. . . . what happened to ya "inside sources" who told you that the deal was worth £70,000?

knock, knock. . . . is Krayola in the house?

Tell him to holla at me for a battle. . . .I don tire to wait for WordSmith. . .

biina:
and Alou Diarra that he bought for  £5.2million nko? I beg stop wriggling my friend

This guy, stop following me around abeg. . . .

Did I state that Gouffran was his most expensive buy?  I only called his name as anecdotal evidence.

What about Gourcuff who was just signed for £11.5m or thereabouts. . . . abi you didnt consider that?

debosky:
Yeye

I have gotten you multiple times now.

Learn to respect your elders.

Which multiple times  . . . see your mouth. . . stop counting your chickens. . . . this is the first and last! 

What is JT saying now?

If he wants a transfer, he better hand in a request and stop beating around the bush. 




[center]Chelsea Captain John Terry 'Betrayed' By Club's Silence – Reports[/center]

The defender is said to be disappointed over Chelsea's reluctance to guarantee his future,

According to a report in the British tabloid The Sun, John Terry feels "betrayed" by Chelsea's silence over Manchester City's bid to bring him to Eastlands.

The Chelsea and England captain was the subject of a £30 million offer from City last week, with reports suggesting that a second, improved bid is imminent.

Sources close to the club have apparently indicated, however, that nobody from within the club has spoken with the 28-year-old defender since the Citizens' interest in him became public knowledge.

A source is quoted as saying, "John feels betrayed and even unwanted.

"It's unbelievable - even though he's the club captain and one of the Blues' most important players, senior management at the club haven't once tried to talk to him.

"John wants to know what's going on and, more importantly, whether Chelsea actually want to keep him or cash in while they have a chance."

It is believed that City manager Mark Hughes will launch a £45m assault for the skipper in the next few days, even though Chelsea insist publicly that their man is not for sale.

Chief executive Peter Kenyon and new manager Carlo Ancelotti have both declared Terry to be 'unsellable' but that has not deterred the mega-rich Manchester side.

Peter Staunton, Goal.com

tkb417:
yet again. hes blaming it on MJs memorial

stop claiming u have first hand info when all you actually do is cull from goal.com

Debosky has finally 'got' me after months of trying!

I never claimed to have watched Coupe De France. . . . my info on French footie is strictly from Channel 4 who only show Ligue 1, not Cup games. . .

biina:
yes it must have been debosky

hehehehe. . . . .are you blind?. . . . abi you no know say language na relative expression. . . .check the statement again. . . .

"Laurent Blanc has managed to challenge and even beat Lyon for two seasons without spending a dime. . . . even the £4.5m he spent on Yoaan Gouffran was extravagant by his standards"

debosky:
Were the Coupe De France wins achieved in your DREAMS??

Once again you have proved you are CONSUMMATE IDIOT and ILLITERATE. I repeat, Marseille have won NOTHING domestically in France for 16 YEARS.

Below is a link to Marseille's own website, see the details yourself. They were finalists in 06 and 07 but have NOT WON the Coupe De France since 1989!!

At this point, shut up and stop claiming to know what you don't - one after the other your egregious follies are being revealed.

http://www.om.net/fr/Club/501002/Histoire_de_l_OM/30360/L_OM_et_la_Coupe_de_France

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupe_de_France

from 1993 to 2009. no league titles, no cups, only inter toto Chei, I want to bejoin such a winning club!

Mumu X3

Taken on the chin!

I was busy watching the MJ memorial whilst debating, so I cant vouch for the quality of my research last nite!

Whats up guys. . . . a lil something I put together yesterday. . . . lemme load it up. . .



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biina:
(1.) Contrary to your earlier assertion that Blanc didn't spend a dime in winning the league, 5 of the starting eleven were acquired by Blanc.

(2.) In the two seasons under Ricardo Gomez, prior to the appointment of Blanc. Bordeaux finished 2nd and 6th with the best defensive record in 2005/06 (conceded only 25 goals). The primary reason for them not getting over the hump was their low scoring attack, which averaged 41 goals in the two seasons. This problem was obvious and Gomez was already making moves to solve it with the purchase of Cavenaghi, and wendel. and taking Jussie on loan. Unfortunately he was sacked before the additions could take effect.

Enter Blanc who added Gouffran and Bellion, and the attack became sharper. Add gourcuff a season later, and Bordeaux had the class they needed to win the title.

Blanc is no tactical genius, he simply had a meal on a table set by another.

(1.) Perhaps you are referring to Debosky here. . . . I made no assertion that Blanc didnt spend a penny. . . .

(2.) This is complete and utter misinformation. . . . . if Gomez is the tactical genius, where is he now? The same Gomez who completely messed up Monaco?

When Laurent Blanc took over, Bordeaux were 6th.

2nd was the season before. . . . in 2005/2006 when they finished 2nd, they were still a good 15 points behind Lyon. When Blanc took over in 2007, they had just finished 24 points behind Lyon. . . . yeah I see. . . . GOMEZ IS A TACTICAL GENIUS! 


You would soon be telling me that Ranieri set the table for Mourinho since he finished 2nd the season before JM took over. 


For the first time in 7 years, Laurent Blanc took the title race to the last day of the season in his debut season, finishing only 4 points behind the Lyon behemoth. . . . in his 2nd season, he eclipsed Lyon, finishing 9 points ahead. . . . and you are here yarning that Blanc had the table set for him by Gomez. . . . ol' boy, tell that one to the blind man, if you are feeling one-eyed. 

debosky:
Sharrap there and stop acting like you know something when you are an air head - whether it be a plastic cup, Marseille has won NOTHING between 1993 and 2009 in France true or false?? With NO TITLES, NO CUPS for 16 YEARS? Bordeaux have TWO TITLES in 10 YEARS. . .A winning club or a 'nearly there'?

Must you continue to repeat the same nonsense even after several warnings?. . . Whilst Marseille won two Coupe De Frances in 2006 and 2007, you are here boasting about tin cups that Bordeaux won. . . . the recent league win for Bordeaux is testament to the management acumen of Laurent Blanc who is the subject of this debate!

Talking about no league wins before 1993 is asinine because Marseille were not allowed back into the 1st division till 1996. . . . abi can you win the Ligue1 title from Ligue2?  

debosky:
I've never heard of a top star moving from Newcastle to Man Utd, (except owen ) but the reverse is usually the case. While Newcastle is shelling Millions on the likes of Coloccini, Bassong and Martins, etc, Man Utd are busy trying to rehabilitate French league rejects (Obertan, Evra ). . . . which one be big club which one be small club?

hehehehe. . . . .of course I dont expect you to know that Man Utd bought Newcastles most prolific striker in 1995. . . the only difference is that United squad players like Abderson and Nani cost upward of £18m while Newcastle transfer record is £18m.   . . . . and Bordeaux's transfer record is £6m whilst £6m players are chilling on Marseilles bench.

If you learnt anything from our discourse today, it is that:

(a.) Coupe de la Ligue and Coupe de France no be the same thing

(b.) Marseille is traditionally the biggest club in France. . . . go and ask the Paris council who had to "create" PSG to rival Marseilles dominance in the North. . . . or at least, so say the Marseille fans. . .



What will these idiots tell me next. . . . that AZ is a bigger club than Ajax or that Wolfsburg is bigger than Dortmund?

Who is comparing Marseille to Man Utd?. . . . make una stop am o. . . . I said Marseille is the Man Utd of France whilst Bordeaux is the Aston Villa. . . . you dolts lack comprehension. . . .

debosky:
Pardon my error then - Europe wise, Bordeaux have featured more prominently.

Prominently gini. . . . . Im starting to believe that you started watching footie in 07/08 season. . .

In the last 7 years, how many times have Bordeaux featured in UCL and how many times have Marseille. . .

Bordeaux have no pedigree in Europe. . . . none. . . . Marseille won CL in 1993 and won the league for 4 straight seasons until they were demoted for playing parsha. . . .

debosky:
More rubbish - all the noise up there - did Marseille win anything? NO - be it even against a pub-team, Marseille couldn't beat the pub team. .

You made the dreadful error of assuming that Coupe de la Ligue was the main cup competition in France. . . . you are lucky Im feeling benevolent today otherwise I would have lambasted you roundly.  

FYI, all big teams play their youth and reserve teams in coupe de la ligue. . . .

debosky:
Liverpool is a daft example - they won a treble in 2001, CL not too long later and have a rich history of finishing above Blackburn - compare Bordeaux and Marseille - league and cup wins in the past two decades almost, and Bordeaux is far above. In terms of ambition, there is nothing a Bordeaux player would achieve by Moving to Marseille, given over 10 years of evidence!! Leave History alone.

And you are a daft pillock?. . . .even by your measure, Marseille have finished above Bordeaux more times than the reverse in the last 7 years. . .

Marseille had a stranglehold on Ligue1 until their demotion to Ligue2 for the match-fixing scandal of 1993 . . . .subsequently all their players left and it took em a few years to get back on track. . . .  only then could these little boys like Bordeaux get a chance to shine. . . . if not for the preternatural foresight and planning of Mikel Aulas at Lyon, Marseille would be rightfully back on top of Ligue 1, with every French player worth his salt passing through Marseille just like in the days pre-1994. . . .big clubs will always be big clubs. . . .ask Juventus, after their calcioploi scandal. . . .

Ive never heard of a top star moving from Marseille to Bordeaux, but the reverse is usually the case. . . . Whilst Marseille are busy shelling millions on the likes of Ben Arfa, Lucho Gonzalez, Cisse etc, Bordeaux are busy trying to rehabilitate Premiership and Russian league rejects. . . . which one be big club and which one be small club?

debosky:
Marseille?? Dude please don't kill me. Gigantic step up indeed. Bordeaux has more pedigree in the CL than Marseille so I suggest you come up with another retarded comment.

Marseille has won nothing in France since 93, only an intertoto cup in 05, and you compare them to Bordeaux with two titles in the last 10 years and numerous cup wins?

Yo must be smoking hashish. . . . Bordeaux have which pedigree in UCL?. . . . see your mouth. . . . a solitary final appearance in the UEFA Cup during their greatest years with Zidane and Dugarry is what you call pedigree. . . .shieet. . . even Marseille got to the final in 2004 with Drogba and em. . . .apart from this season, when was the last time we saw Bordeaux in UCL. . . . but we see Marseille almost every season. . .I will not even bring up Marseilles UCL win in 1993 cos I dont want no extra argument over match-fixing. . .


At the content in bold. . . . . Do you know the difference between Coupe De France and Coupe de la ligue before coming here to claim it as some sort of achievement?   . . . . just cos Bordeaux won a couple of Coupe de la Ligues you wanna compare them to Marseille?. . . .FYI, Coupe De La Liga means nothing in France. . . . . even this season Bordeaux won the Coup de la Ligue against a semi-professional team in the final. . . . the final stages are always full of semi-professional teams. . . . and a League win in 2000 is nothing to use for comparative analysis. . . . before the emergence of Lyon, French teams rotated the Championship every year. . . . Lens and Nantes should be bigger than Marseille going by your theory. . .

Marseille is the biggest club in France, biggest stadium and most supporters. . . . Marseille is the Man Utd of France. . . . just ask any Frenchman. . . . a player leaving Bordeaux to Marseille is the same as leaving Aston Villa to Man Utd. . . telling me that Bordeaux is bigger than Marseille is like telling me that Blackburn was bigger than Liverpool in 1995, just because Blackburn won the league and Liverpool hadn't won it for 5 years. . . . yet, Blackburn accepted bids from Man Utd and Newcastle for Alan Shearer. . . . Bordeaux, just like Blackburn do not have the credibility to keep a want-away player from the clutches of Marseille. . . 



[quote author=~Sauron~ link=topic=268431.msg4150420#msg4150420 date=1246997676]Jose Mourinho who has won the domestic league is struggling to be recommended and Ibime is putting Blanc on the list.[/quote]Jose Mourinho is a spendthrift and money waster . . . . Laurent Blanc has managed to challenge and even beat Lyon for two seasons without spending a dime. . . . even the £4.5m he spent on Yoaan Gouffran was extravagant by his standards. . . . so far at Lyon, he actually has a net surplus on transfers. . . . thats what you expect from a man with a degree in Business Management. . . . perhaps Ivan Gazidis would recommend him to Gaynners since he doesn't like spending cash.  

debosky:
Wow - a move to Marseille! The pinnacle of European football!

Cavenaghi?? Interested whom exactly? Diarra has flopped and if he was that good we would've seen bids for him.

Gourcuff was already class before getting to Bordeaux so that is irrelevant. Chamakh scored a mere 14 goals, hardly burning up the place.

SO far nothing but air and speculation. . . .

Bollocks. . . . . first of all, no gigantic club would come in for Diawara considering he flopped at Charlton. . . . for the very same reason that Quaresma couldn't get a move from Porto cos he had flopped at Barca, and Forlan is still fighting to shake off his flop tag despite being a frontrunner in the Spanish scoring charts for 5 years. . . . second of all, Bordeaux is a small club. . . . a move to Marseille is a considered a gigantic step up in France. . . .you have not been keeping up to pace with the changing face of French footie. . . . Marseille have just signed Lucho Gonzalez for 18m from Porto. . . . so Marseille is considered to be doing big things this season. . . .

Second of all, all these players are nonentities. . . .I agree. . . . this shows that you cannot argue in a straight line. . . .because that is the more reason why Laurent Blanc should be lauded for his work at Bordeaux!

Third of all, Chamakh is not a goalscorer, never has been. . . . he is one of em Rooney type of players, working the channels or behind the forwards. . . . and if his move to Arsenal comes through, I would AGREE with you that none of Laurent Blancs boys have moved to a big club!

debosky:
Has ANYONE even thought of bidding for the so called 'improved' players?

The only reason Bordeaux won the title is because Lyon got complacent and bored after 7 titles. SIMPLE.

Save your ridiculous analysis for your chav simpletons.

Look at this vagabond. . . . Diawara has already earned his move to Marseille. . . . the rejuvenated Gourcuff was wanted by many major clubs before Bordeaux exercised their buy-out clause. . . . even Chamakh whose early days hype had died down piqued the interest of SAF momentarily, and now Arsene Wenger is in the frame. . . . Harry Redknapp was interested in Cavenaghi before Robbie Keane became available. . . . as for Diarra, he has already flopped two big moves and is aging a little so no one is interested in him. . . .

These apes would not know talent when they see it. . . . FYI, I am willing to bet that SAF will recommend Laurent Blanc as his successor at OT . . . anybody wey no know say David Bellion has been rejuventated under Laurent Blanc must have been living under a rock for the last season and half. . . . other players rejuvenated to star status include Fernando Cavenaghi the forgotten man of Argentinian soccer, Alou Diarra, the Liverpool and Lyon flop and most commendably, Souleymane Diawara, the Charlton flop who was made to look like a King under Laurent Blanc. . . . for this guy to lift a broke Bordeaux to 2nd and 1st place in 2 seasons is truly outstanding, especially considering the players he has done it with.

hehehehe. . . . . Im just pulling you Mancs legs. . .but still, what is some chump talking about the 1999 final against Bayern. . . . even SAF would proclaim that God was a Red Devil on that day. . . . someone should explain how the same SAF was tactically disgraced against Dortmund and Monaco in 1997 and 1998 respectively. . . . but I honestly feel SAF has nothing to teach Orangutan that he cant learn from Blanc. . . . jeez, Blanc even turned David Bellion into a star at Bordeaux. . .

Eastbay:
And world class?
My best memory of blanc remains the two horrendous errors vs Parma in 1999's UEFA Cup final.And not a few share that sentiment.
And world class people don't get remembered by howlers.Of course i know.he had his fair share at United.

Only someone who was born yesterday can make this kind of statement. . . . how can you bring up sturvs from 1999 when Blanc was already 34 years old. . . even at 36 years old SAF was still begging Blanc to come and sign for United, not because of his abilities as a player, but SAF wanted his defenders to learn the art from a true maestro . . . as for all the balderdash spewed above, I shall wait for Dayokanu to log on to come and deal with you. . . 

debosky:
Ol boy I am seriously considering getting a ticket!! I have a wedding on the 1st, so if I can get tickets for Sunday that would be fabulous!

O boy, I got my tickets last friday. . . . if you dey reach, holla me, so I fit deliver courtesy slap for all the bollocks you spew on Nairaland.

tkb417:
see ur head like calabash
Laurent what?

why not Samson Siasia

Look at this ode. . . . Blanc is the smartest motherphocker in football. . . .  a man who started as an attacking midfielder, dropped back to DM, then to CB and remained World Class in every position. . . .now he's proving it on the coaching level by usurping Lyon in the French league. . . . no be yam. . .  SAF should leave intelligent footie to the likes of Queiroz. . . . see the way Guardiola undressed him tactically in the final. . . perhaps he should have called Queiroz to teach him how he masterminded last years victory over Barca. . .  or better yet Guus Hiddink. . . . SAF is the best man-manager in world football, but tactically, he needs to step up his game!  

debosky:
Ibime likes to talk nonsense sha.

So physiology determines whether you will be able to deliver correctly?

Was George Finidi not long legged? I guess it must be the k-leg factor then.

Only a presumptive cat like Ibime would make a definitive statement about a developing player who is not even fully developed and hasn't been coached to the best standards available.

Sharrap dia. . . . Finidi was bow-legged. . .

Orangutan is more like Salomon Kalou and Jesper Gronkjaer. . .

What can SAF or Mike Phelan teach Orangutan that Laurent Blanc hasn't already. . . . Laurent Blanc has a higher football IQ than those two put together. . . .

hehehe. . . . look at these drowned rats running under hailstorms. . . . . unlike the broke Arses, Cobham have indoor training facilities for schitznels like these. . . . Vermaelen must be wondering what kind of club he joined after years using the World Class facilities at Ajax training ground. . . . I see Rosicky has also finally emerged from his slumber. . . .

I have no problem with Chelsea selling or keeping JT. . . . either way it makes sense. . . .as long as he doesn't use Man City's interest as leverage to negotiate a new contract, he can stay, otherwise lets cash in.