₦airaland Forum

CGKing:
You cant really blame them. They curse and resort to name calling when they run out of intelligent arguments. They fight when they've run out of things to do.

look who is speaking of intelligence. . . . thats an insult to the English language. . . . I wouldn't even bother engaging you in anything resembling discourse.

Fhemmmy:
MEND has been fighting for how long now, and they have made so much money, from kidnapping, sabotaging and some money made from the govt, have you ever ask where is the money and what has happened to the money, could it be that some people within MEND is doing some funny stuff to the money?
The bombing that MEND has been doing, who is suffering from it the most?
MEND killing people that they said they are fighting for? kidnapping people that they are protecting for ransom and you want people to now pity those kinda criminals?
Excuse me

As someone has said, even if Niger-Delta wants to drink the oil, it is nobody's business. . . . I cannot comment on other allegations of kidnapping which are happening all around the country (unless you've been living under a rock). PH sef has less kidnappings than Anambra. Not because I dont abhor kidnapping, but I dont entertain fools logic who use it as an excuse to trample upon the people's right to agitate. Many copycat kidnappings are attributed to militants. FYI, MEND and 'militant' are not the same thing. Perhaps we should also attribute the kidnappings in Edo State to 'militants'.

Whilst I dont doubt that some warlords loosely associated with MEND (or warlords who MEND use to carry out attacks) are involved in kidnapping for profits, MEND as a group has never kidnapped anyone outside the oil sector. This is one of the pitfalls of running an open-source guerilla machine where central control is loose and different warlords are 'hired' to carry out attacks for MEND by 'contract'.

As per corruption, when Nigerian is serious about fighting corruption as a whole, then I will comment on what individual state governors are doing or not doing. I am not concerned with inane logic or idiots who would not look at their own state governors first before looking at Niger-Delta governors and using them as an excuse to rubbish the genuine agitations of a people. Timiepriye Sylva is no more an Ijaw leader than Andy Uba is an Igbo leader. They are creations of the Nigerian political system. When Nigeria is serious about corruption, then we will worry about state governors behaving themselves in every state. . . . . otherwise, we will wait till we have the power to enforce our own state laws on corruption, not being hamstrung by FG's lackadaisical approach to fighting corruption.

There are many military reasons for MEND not to go after corrupt Governors, the most important being that these Governors also have their own armed groups, and it would be foolish to fight oneself in the presence of a superior aggressor (Nigeria). MEND have stated quite clearly that these peoples day of reckoning is coming.

Jeophri:
C'mon, one more round to clear all doubts.

Theres no doubts here. . . . apart from a couple of stragglers who lack comprehension, most votes go to me  . . . . . not to talk of the posts commending my verse from A-40 and Eldee which were cleaned up by lalaboi  . . . .  .I know the value of a verse and without prejudice, his verse isnt even close to mine  . . . . as others have said, Ibime wins this hands down  . . . . . Ive already beaten the kido twice this year. . . . how much pain can one man take? 

Fhemmmy:
great observation.
I am sure the money is from spare parts sales.

You are just as bovine-brained as the idiot making the comment. . . . some anonymous person says MENDS tribesmen own properties in Lagos, your trigger-happy brain is commending him. . . . I am MENDS tribesman and I could own property in Lagos if I wish. . . . even if MEND themselves own property in Lagos, who no know say they are rich men?. . . .is that news?

And that idiot called CGKing talking about stone-age mentality, I want to ask him if he is using solar energy to power his stove or car. . . . bloody idiot. . . . if it is a stone-age mentality to ask for control of resources, then I wish to be as stone-age as the Spanish, the Germans, the Americans, the Belgians etc. . . . stupid barbarian.

No2Atheism:
@Ibime

I am now suspecting u are actually a Igbo masquerading as someone else.

Abia state i understand (cus they supposedly have a little bit of oil) but apkmaka biko, wetin Imo State dey do for your list of Niger Delta states or are u by any chance involved in the business of forwarding and clearing.

If Edo and Ondo can be classified as Niger-Delta, then Imo have every right to be called Niger-Delta. 

Imo State is oil producing, probably more than Edo sef. . . .I stand to be corrected.

Fhemmmy:
You are the true son of the soil.
One of the few N-Deltans and God will bless u jare.

Son of the soil my nyash. . . . Edo State own Niger-Delta get k-leg . . . . they are partly there geographically, but not spiritually  . . . .all my Edoite friends pride themselves on being friendly with all peoples of Nigeria due to their mixed heritage and interaction with all sides. . . . no problem with that. . . . but that often blinds them into their "One Nigeria" stance, even in the midst of injustice. . .  I find the same here on Nairaland with people like GCKing, Dnex and to a lesser extent, Texazzpete. . . .no true Niger-Deltan supports the indiscriminate and un-intelligence led shelling of villages. . . you wouldn't find the same from other Niger-Delta states such as Abia, Imo, C-River and Akwa-Ibom. . . . often, Edo State indigenes are on the wrong side of the debate. . . they better buckle up before they get left behind. . .

Fhemmmy:
i am not saying they shd not fight for what is right, but while you fighting for justice, if you keep killing the innocent, then who are you fighting for?

Which innocent was killed during the Atlas Cove bombing. . . . as far as I am aware, the victims were all Navy men.

'Sup Brid. . . . taking subliminal shots at somebody, I see


Im slick like oil/ his chick might loyal/
but a 100 would persuade her. . . to lick my boil!/
I think like Royals/ in Windsor Dales/
Sharks love to bite. . . but Im the Prince of whales!/
His kingdom fails/ so I take his queen/
She wasnt born with it. . . . but she Maybelline/
Niggas smoke weed and they may be lean/
so I hit their stash. . . and jack pot. . . like a game machine!/
We could dance off. . . all night till the birds wake/
I dont moonwalk. . . but I do the earth quake/
So you could dip and glide till the fans cry/
But everybody knows that I’ll win. . . by a land slide!/

hehehehehe. . . . . I give this to Prince. . . . . here's the reason why:

Even at night,I know where ur face at,won't lotto-win this/
'Flash-gun',give u a head 'shot' to avoid any 'photo'-finish/

snipers aim with gun,labels got money,they all head hunt me/


Those two lines caught me more than most. . .



Breaking it down. . . .


Manickal had the easier flow. . . but I am not a fan of vulgar lines. . . . although I liked this line:

i'm a mountain/ live Everest/ i Everlast/ like we boxers//


Princes verse was more witty, and more subliminal. . . also covered a wider range of topics and metaphors. . .and he used them to punch.

Vote goes to Prince.

tkb417:
abeg, can someone ask Ibime to help us dig for the brightest youngster in Norway or Dayokanu
since they know all the embryos and the likes in the world of footie
Ibime over to u

I am glad that you seek a higher authority on footie matters . . . . the only player who I know is a good player in Norway is Anthony Annan of Ghana and Rosenborg. . . . Nigerians would witness that he put a padlock on Mikel Obi in the Nations Cup and even poked him in the eye. . . . . over to Dayokanu for the rest. . .

Nice one guys. . . . Ill be back on this later. . . .

Afaukwu, could you please provide us a link to your original story?

50% is fair in the interests of Nation building. . . . I just wanna know if this deal goes beyond fiscal federalism. . . . does it extend to legislature, issuing of licences, policing etc?. . . . I would like to see progressive states given free hand to devlop their own institutions. . .

Crizzle, thanks for deleting that francophone bollocks that Emperoh was spewing here earlier on. I did not know that trading cars in Cotonou could cause an Umu Igbo to have identity crisis. 

Fhemmmy:
That will never be possible, in a place where dialogue is not a language till they bomb and kill

Sharrap dia. . . . all the peaceful talks for the last 45 years got em nowhere. . . . within just 4 years of picking up arms, we are hearing that Nigeria is willing to negotiate federalism. . . . that alone shows which language communicates better in Nigeria. . . anyway, lemme not jump the gun, I will believe Afaukwus report when I see it implemented. . .

freezy:
My friend, keep quiet there!  Who are you threatning? That is the last shot those guy's will ever have. 
Imagine, the strike was so powerful that there are no fuel queues in Lagos till date! 
Go n sleep jare!

Nairaland resident militant is speaking and you dey make noise. . . . na because you dey for internet? . . . .go talk that one for WilyWily face na, na another story be that  . . . . WilyWily, no mind me o. . . . keep up the good work! 

I am not even in favour of the state system. . . . I dont see any reason why each tribe shouldn't have its own state. . . . last thing I wanna see is Ijaws and Itsekiris fighting or Urhobos and Igbos fighting in Delta State over some local political jagbajantis. . . .you know how tribal Nigerians are. . . .  why cant Ebonyi, Anambra, Imo, Aba etc come together to form one state?. . . . Ijaws in Rivers, Delta, Ondo, Bayelsa can also come together. . . . a federation of Nationalities, just like Spain. . . . even small tribes like Ogoni can have their own state. . . .states can be as small as Rhode Island or as large as Texas. .  . . in that way, we use our tribal culture to strengthen accountability through local customs. . .  


Also, if this is true that Nigeria is willing to return to federalism, the next question is. . . . how do we disarm the militia?. . . .Liberia faced the same problem after their war with different rebel groups all over the place. . . . .

Lets see if they vote for it first before jumping the gun. . .

tkb417:
Ibime, dont lets start jagbajantis here o
i went to military schools for my nursery, primary and secondary and yes i wrote a subject called Govt in my SSCE

No wonder you dey make gbrigidi like egbewedger. . . . I hope you didnt school in Zaria. . . you dehumanised barbarian  

tkb417:
do i need to go further on this cos you shld knw while there are reserved powers for states in America, our constitution didnt make allowance for our states in Nigeria.
how you compare states that own and control their security operatives not to control their resources beats me. Except ure saying we shld scrap what we have now and go the way of US

as it is now, what ure clamouring for is illegal and ur coconut head shld have pointed this out
olodo oshi

@ the content in bold. . . . what was tkb417 shouting when Fashola was calling for Lagos State Police force?. . . . tkb was shouting "Yes Fashola, I agree with you 100%!"  

And how does having State-controlled Police force cancel out the need for fiscal federalism?. . . . are they mutually exclusive?. . . . wetin concern fish with raincoat?

BTW, most states in Nigeria already have their own state-controlled police force. . . . Bakassi Boys, vigilantes etc  

Tomorrow now, you would tell me "Do the villagers own the land for which they are complaining", not forgetting that they did until OBJ criminally introduced the Land Act of 1978 bestowing all lands and profits from lands on Federal Government.

Ol' boy chill out on that. . . . . successive military governments have emasculated the Niger-Deltan people. . . . now we are back in democracy, we only ask for a return to the same conditions as 1960. . . .resource control for indivual peoples of Nigeria. . . . it would not have escaped your attention that each part of Nigeria witnessed the most progress when they were accountable for themselves. . . . all our Universities and major roads were built during that period. . . . each region was productive and each leader was answerable to his people, not Federal power-brokers. . . . as Wole Soyinka rightfully said, its time to revisit the 1967 question of Federalism, otherwise no hope for Naija. . .

tkb417:
did you fail your Govt in secondary school?
or you didnt do it at all?

go buy a Govt textbook and understand hw US and 9ja are different.

Perhaps you failed Govt yourself. . . . was there a subject called Govt sef?. . . . which kain private school you go. . .

I am all ears Mr Itk419 . . . . lecture me on how yankee system should differ from ours. . . . or how any federation does. . . . what was our constitution regarding regional autonomy in 1960 (the terms under which we agreed to come together as different peoples). . . . and point out how anything I have said contravenes the 1960 agreement. . . . I am waiting

Fhemmmy:
if they are so bitter, let them go to Aso Rock and negotiate.

they are negotiating with Aso Rock. . . . everyday.

Fhemmmy:
Besides, controlling their own resources cant be a solution, however, i will admit that they needs to be better compensated and make sure their lands are OK, and taken cared of, but they cant control their own natural resources.

Why not?. . . . do all states in a Federation not control their resources. . . . go and ask Texas, Alaska etc if they dont control their resources. . . . they all do, and they all pay 50% tax to Federal Government. . . . ask me why California is currently bankrupt. . . . not only have they controlled their resources, they've also 'miscontrolled' them. . .

MEND are criminals, but I will always support them. . . . . just like I supported OPC when they were fighting for disanullment of June 12, although they are also made of criminals. . . . when Yankee was fighting Britain, who do you think would be the first at the frontline, if not for criminals. . . . do you know that pirates were paid to protect Americas shorelines in the first few years after Independence. . . . I would rather these criminals were channeling their criminality into something productive such as fighting for resource control, than conducting inter-ethnic pugilism like they did in the 90's where we had numerous wars between tribes of Rivers and Delta State.

And you better believe it, MENDS modus operandi is the destruction of Nigerias oil economy. . . . if it pain you, then let it pain you. . . .when Naija is exporting 0 bpd perhaps it will come to its senses.  

Fhemmmy:
Even if you want Fashola to chose a side, what is on the table for him to chose from?
You expect anyone to join side with people kidnapping people and seeking ransom?
You expect anyone to join side with people that are bombing and setting on fire the natural resources of their nation/
Common------wld u?

It is not Fashola himself, but the Yoruba polity as a whole. . . . Fashola himself has no votes to change anything. . . . we're talking senators and the people who control them. . . . power-brokers etc. . . Long before kidnapping and rehrehreh, Naija Deltans have been agitating for resource control. . . . many non-militarised Niger-Deltans (& others) are still agitating for that. . . . . . . people like Gani Fawehimni, Ledum Mitee, Wole Soyinka, Rochas Okorocha, Pat Utomi etc. . . . . are these people labelled as "joining side" with people who "kidnap and ransom"?. . . . . whenever a negotiation turns violent (as the Niger-Delta negotiation has) it will always be the criminals and "strong men" of the society who pick up arms first cos they are used to that lifestyle. . . . that does not mean their fight is not a genuine one. . .

Some people need to let go of tribal sensitivities. . . .Debosky and other progressive minded peeps are not selling out, rather buying-in to the idea of resorce control and regional autonomy. Raj Fashola and the Govt of Lagos is seen as a beacon of hope for the future stability of Nigeria under regional autonomy and fiscal federalism. I troway salute to Sir Fashola for his work in seeking fiscal and bureacratic independence from the Nigerian State.

However, no longer will the mega-cities of Nigeria be a getaway from the problems of the hinterland. When the war reach your domot, you will be forced to buck one way or another. Politicians in Lagos and Yorubaland now have a decision to make - pressure the Fed Govt to acquiesce to the demands of the Niger-Delta (resource control), or join the Federal Govt to oppose the demands of the Niger-Delta. There is no neutrality where injustice is being meted out, especially in your own country where you have a say in the political process. You are either with it, or against.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=297179.msg4197878#msg4197878 date=1247751710]Yorubas arent your brothers- dont confuse the sellouts you roll with for the entire Yoruba people- generalizations help no one.


yes, my family members have the H factor and tribal marks. Do those things offend you in some way?  I myself always overuse my aitches when talking. Didnt know it wasnt cool until just recently.


Very embarassing to be from the same country as these ugly, tribally marked, primitive, dirty and bush Yorubas, right? They look like people who fought with a tiger and got their face all scratched up.

Always claiming lagos which doesnt belong to them and using Niger Delta oil and revenue like the parasites they are.[/quote]Somebody call Aloy.Emeka. . . . his wife is spazzing out again. . .  

Shebi tkb417 na sell-out na?  

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=297179.msg4197728#msg4197728 date=1247750541]as for your comment on Yorubas in Port harcourt- we'll leave that for another day,[/quote]abeg leave me to exchange pleasantries with my bros jor. . . . your own sensitivity na wa. . . abi na you get the H-factor and tribal mark. . . . quite possibly. . .

nateevs:
Aha! We have sent Miroslav Stoch on loan to FC Twente. .

Good news. . . .Twente is a great place to learn. . . Rajkovic is over there as well. . . besides they should be in Champions League this season. . .

tkb417:
any attempt to escalate to other regions will endanger ur life and others cos it wont take a day for the whole region to be cleaned

You cant clean what is feeding you. . . . quite simple. . .

What JTF have failed to achieve in 5 years, you think say na OPC go achieve am. . . . as we dey yarn sef, OPC dey gbadun MEND. . . . cos gangsta dey respect gangsta. . . . especially the one wey pass him level. 

oxford:
I have heard so many bone head statement in my life time but to suggest that MEND can win a war against Nigeria takes the prize. Attacking lagos is big guff that MEND will come to regret. In the long run it will prove to be their greatest undoing. They have, as long expected, finally shot themselve on the foot. Whoever advised them to attack Lagos, certainly does not wish them will. I waiting to hear Jomo Gbomo react to Fashola threat. The bubble is about to burst.

Keep laughing. . . . shebi you were laughing last year when JTF attacked MEND factions in Tombia. . . or last month when JTF was shelling Gbaramatu whilst painting the picture that MEND was on its last legs. . . I have heard all these utterances before. . . . you would have thought MEND was easy to squash. . . . now its Lagos, and you are still laughing. . . . you will be laughing when they hit Abuja as well. . . .

The Nigerian army has already signified defeat by offering amnesty. . . . you cannot kill what you cannot see. . . . Nigeria is down to 800,000 bpd from 2.4m. . . . keep laughing. . . . by 2015, Nigeria turns to Somalia like US intelligence accurately predicted. . . . keep laughing all the way to the British/Yankee embassy to queue for visa. . . .

I feel sorry for Fashola. . . . he is the only one trying to make things work within a corrupted system. . . . attacks on FG installations in his state will definitely scare investors. . . . but as long as injustice is perpetuated in Nigeria, they will continue. . . .

tkb417:
minus me. what agitation?
let them kill the Iboris first b4 killing us in Lagos

Ibime
one Ibo boi just told me that one of the guys killed was an IGBO man in the military
so expect a full scale collabo between awon boiz and the Igbo community

so no where to hide

Dont worry, we are so janded, we will switch to British accent. . . .

BTW, Federal Govt are said to be preparing to invade the two Yoruba villages that harboured the MEND soldiers. . . . expect onslaught also from JTF, not only MEND. . . .

JTF. . . . . coming to a village near you!  

blacksta:
Which kind H Factor be that- na bush people they talk like that.

If no be H-factor, na vowel intonation dem go use catch them!

tkb417:
let them bomb Lagos again and lets see if awon boiz will not go and be cutting the throats of the Niger Delta people in Lagos

they just want to cause wahala for the law abiding ones in lagos cos Lagosians can be wicked atimes

In this case, nobody will wear masks, it will be termed reprisal attacks on Lagos and i bet many will be slaughtered

itk419. . . . . he who swallows a long pistle must sleep standing upright. . . .

If your Awon boiz are feeling funky, they should go and cut Niger-Deltan throats. . . . they wont find any!. . . . like play, like play, all Niger Deltans in Lagos will turn to Igbos, speaking Igbo dialect so fluently, you wouldn't be able to tell if they are Niger-Deltans or Igbos. . . .  

On the other hand, it will be impossible for Yorubas in Port-Harcourt to disguise themselves. . . . H-factor and tribal marks will give away their identity in a jiffy!  

nateevs:
That's because Roman has learnt that shelling out £40m, £50m for players and paying astronomical wages don't guarantee trophies.  What we need is a team. A Ronaldo, Kaka, Benzema the world neva knew of has never happened to Chelsea. Barca took a gamble on Iniesta and Messi a few years ago and it's paid off. Ask me how much it'll cost now to try to persuade barca to release Messi.

It can't always be about Superlet. Sometimes a starlet is what we need. Mind you we haven't sold any players. So by bringing in players like Madrid and City have done, we will offset the wage structure of the club. I can't subscribe to paying Tevez £170k a week, Adebayor £170k a week and Terry £280k a week. How do we sustain that? And with Players like Terry that have clauses written into their contracts that puts them at par with the highest earners at the club, it won't be long before Essien, Drogba, Anelka, Ashley Cole start asking about their worth. Where does it end.

The best approach in this City and Madrid controlled market I believe, is to sit back, watch them finish their shopping then go in smartly and pick young players that want to play for us, not ones looking  for a last pay day.


Although Bruce Buck has said there is going to be one Marquee signing this summer, which I suspect is going to be one of Aguero, Pato and Ibramhimovic - I for one will expect this signing to happen only when the ingredients are right. No over-priced fella and no over-paid fella here please.

This is new reality guys. No more paying Chelsea money. Roman is wiser now.

Now is not the time to buy. . . . simple. . . the market is overinflated. . . . those talking about Sneijder should remember we have enough CMs, besides Sneijder is simply overweight, depressed and very unprofessional and hasnt featured for Madrid since January. . . . they are begging him to leave, meaning he is a liability. . . . he will just become another Deco.

We already have 3 strikers, enough CMs and DMs, we have bought cover for Ashley and left-wing is fully stocked. . . . perhaps a right-winger is the only thing missing, but Anelka grew into the role last season and especially in the last 3 matches of the season, he was dribbling players for fun. . . . Joe Cole, Kalou and Stoch can also cover that. . . . as far as I am concerned, our transfer activity is done. . . . we just need to sell Carvalho and Deco. . . . and if Terry goes, then we need to sign a new CB. . . . Steven Taylor is the most Terry-like player in the prem.