₦airaland Forum

Amigoss:
Na Abacha get this credit na cos it was his govt that created it,you want whitewash Abacha for us? Moreover there is thread about Buhari's time as petroleum trust Fraud chairman here on nairaland and on the internet,cos we small then no come dey bobo us sir....

https://www.nairaland.com/2046305/buhari-ptf-days-untold-story

Abacha no consign me.

Buhari as Petroleum Minister built 3 refineries and as PTF chairman built 144,000 kilometres of road and equipped all our schools with things beyond our imagination, even school buses and tractors.

Now sell GEJ to me in 2015 after having by far the highest revenues in Nigerias history and $22bln savings kept for him which he yammed through in the first year of his tenure. Sell me ONE THING except that Sanusi had enough dollars to keep the Naira stable.

donjazzet:
If you look at those old posts, you see that it wasn't just Buhari, he supported amaechi against Jonathan, he consistently praised oshiomole of APC, fashola and the rest.
So this isn't just a buhari something alone.

This is an inherently pro-apc, anti-pdp bias at play.

I'm not even attacking him, I'm simply highlighting this so that people would know the historical bias he has towards the APC TILL THIS VERY DAY.

Which party do Aregbesola and Rochas belong to?

I will favour Amaechi and Fashola because they performed in comparison to their competition. Infact I'm on record as being very pro-Lagos politicians because whether you like it or not, they are planets ahead of other states political systems.

Ibime:
Rochas didn't do well anything

He built some substandard roads and tanked the finances within 2 years, leading to State Govt wage delinquency when it comes to payment of civil servants

Rochas is second only to Aregbe when it comes to financial mismanagement

Olowunl01:
Chief abeg please explain - cos left to me Buhari did the most damage to Nigeria. Security F9, Economy F9.

We have been going over the same thing the last few pages. Inflation in Nigeria is driven by the value of the Naira which is supported by our oil revenues.

You cannot support Naira with your bare hands, you have to buy it with dollars from your oil revenue.

Buhari even overdid his support of the Naira even when we had no dollars to prop it up. Tinubu is the one showing us the true value now.

Amigoss:
But the loots during this period of boom as petroleum minister under abacha are still brought forward today,the other fella is serving in this new admin also,same thing diezani.madueke is being crucified for....

What is difference between ptf which enticed you and gej's sure p

I don't know nothing about loot, but I know that PTF built 144,000km of road across Nigeria, bought school buses and tractors, desks for all our Federal schools etc that we saw with our eyes. That was 1994 to 1998. Ask anyone in school that period if they know the word PTF.

My decision of who to pick was very rational and based on evidence

liveLongNprospa:
So you saw nothing?
You were barely a child between1985-1987 who bought into vibes almost 30yrs later.
You didn't check the man's level of intelligence before you campaigned for him.

I can understand someone as young as Donjazet getting deceived but you dey open mouth talk say as mature egbon wey you be for 2015, them run you street😁.
Ibime go with God🙏

Which year was Petroleum Trust Fund in operation.

Answer this and you will know whether I'm old enough to have seen Buharis works to have a basis for supporting him over GEJ

I don't need to go far to see Buharis work. His work is right outside my house. Literally across the road from my house in the village. He built 3 of these in 2 years, the same thing we are finding harder than rocket science now, even Dangote.

I had very valid reasons for supporting Buhari in 2011 and 2015, but that is not the crux of this discussion. The crux of this discussion is the cause of inflation. I will hammer APC for everything except that because I follow numbers and materiality.

liveLongNprospa:
Who then is responsible for this high inflation?

Same thing responsible for Angola's high inflation. When you work it out, come and tell me. It was dealt with a few pages back.

liveLongNprospa:
Lmaooo question is which juju you see wey make a numbers man like you support buhari? What speech did you listen that he showed intelligence that made you support him over GEJ?

I only needed to see GEJ and his Governors loot the Excess Crude Account of $22bln to turn against him as a numbers man

I only needed to see Buhari build 3 refineries in 2 years as Petroleum Minister to give him a chance over GEJ

If you are of a certain age to see the word "PTF" on all your school buses, tractors and roads, you will know why those of a certain age gave Buhari a chance. Ask anyone in their late 30s plus

I don't have to defend my choice of Buhari now, just because he performed woefully. He had enough service record for me to go with him, while Jonathan had none except ruining our savings for the future. And I'm an Ijaw man with Jonathan wife from my hometown.

liveLongNprospa:
What are the amazing policies that buhari did to set the country straight?

None, yet he is not materially responsible for your inflation

Amigoss:
It is everyman for himself and everyone now owns dollars as you preach,what do you think happens to the value and it's impact to the economy,I'm curious to know........

The wise who did will be protected and the foolish who didn't go suffer am.

donjazzet:
Ibime, only someone who hasn't followed you for a long time will be deceived again by you. I'm not ashamed to admit I was partly influenced by your views on buhari and APC, even adopting your staunchly anti-pdp positions.

This below, documents your positions on APC and PDP throughout the years. That last post was basically you still hyping buhari despite seeing how much of a failure he already was.
Accept that you were wrong.
Some of these posts are from 10 years ago when I joined this forum.

It is well known I supported Buhari in 2015 and even his unsuccessful attempt in 2011. So what is your point?

What I'm discussing is economics, not any partizan megedefegede.

Amigoss:
If everybody hedge with dollar holdings including artisans and pepper sellers in the current situation we've found ourselves like the economist is doing,how will naira and the economy improve/grow....is that what we should all do till the root cause of inflation is gone

It's every man for himself once you see your CBN has no tools to defend the Naira

Amigoss:
I guess you missed the sarcasm in that post,Reread it boss .....That was what you called us yesterday...

A renowned Economist is talking about price of goods and it's effect on the citizen instead of talking about root cause of increase in price of goods caused by PDP and gej,I want you to attack him too and call him lazy

A renowned economist is stating the obvious, the exact same thing I've stated repeatedly which is that common man only cares about inflation. Did he tell you HE is not expecting inflation under the conditions? I'm sure he has been hedging against it personally with dollar holdings like I've been asking guys to do for months and years.

What is lazy is dismissing the impact of oil revenues on those prices of goods. That's what I called lazy not any megedefegede you are talking about.

Amigoss:
Easy on us that are pepper sellers that puts our hopes on politicians that promise us heaven and earth we never asked for pre election chief....

Didn't Tinubu himself say he is not going to make excuses and no one should make one for him...

Tinubu told you he will float the Naira and end subsidy, as did Peter Obi

Both has happened and you are shocked

When politicians talk, take the one that is meant for you and leave the rest. The speech Tinubu will give the Nigerian Stock exchange is different to the speech he give the pepper sellers in the village. By your level of education, you will know which of the speech to pay attention to

donjazzet:
A quick reminder that Ibime has ALWAYS had a soft spot for the APC despite their proven multiple failures in governance.

Know that Ibime supports Tinubu, right after also supporting Buhari. During Buhari's tenure, ibime consistently defended the APC regime while simultaneously attacking anything PDP.

This is just to remind you guys because I know I will be needing to do this from time to time.

Focus on the issues. I don't have soft spot for PDP or APC. I have criticised APC times without number. I only have soft spot for educated commentary and detest foolishness and butchering of economics

If inflation is all you care about, and you lazily dismiss the impact of oil revenues on defending the Naira and thus taming inflation, you are as foolish as the day is long

Facts are stubborn and I will keep repeating facts.

Amigoss:
Bismarck Rewane is a lazy guy who only cares about price of goods and not what drives changes in them,what an unintelligent Economist he is

Price of goods is all he cares about with his lazy narratives, so he can be rest assured that what he cares about is covered by oil price.

He is not wrong. All Nigerians care about is inflation, but most are too stupid to know the root causes of inflation.

Ibime:
Nigerians just want you to fight inflation, stuff that hits their pocket directly. And that power is often out of a Presidents hand.

Guyman01:
Their sanctions against Russia is backfiring and African leaders have reduced the deposit of stolen money in Swedish banks.

Mumu wey no sabi difference between Sweden and Switzerland

Emaprince:
I think Eldee was a producer in Atlanta. He was working with upcomers...and in an interview, he claimed that the money he was making from them was bigger than what he was making in Naija.

Anyway, with the way things turned around now, our artistes are almost on per with A list American artists in terms of income generation now...and even global dominance

Eldee actually left to focus squarely on his IT work in the states. Eldee was commanding N500k per show at the time he left but I guess the shows weren't coming frequent enough to match what he could get in his IT work in Yankee

Bombblacks:
Cannot happen. The entire area is dense untouched rainforest, no road or rails nothing. How is a nation that can't even feed itself going to supply food and fuel to an army to do this. Logistics win wars and venuzuela is the definition of a society incapable of logistics. They are just making empty noise.

Rastaman no dey fight war. Na from air Venezuela go land troops for capital, rastaman go quickly surrender and shout for Brazil and International community to come handle the matter

Bombblacks:
With which economy is Venezuela going to invade Guyana? It's just posturing. The country would stop to exist if they go to war.

Guyana na small population country. One division or even brigade go take Guyana, the koko na say make dem no jam Brazil there

BlueRayDick:
I hope that applies to someone like freestyle too and not just that he's struggling to make ends meet somewhere in Nigeria.

Freestyle went to Yankee and joined the Navy there

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The person wey pain me pass was Freestyle Essien.

How can such a talent just quit like that?

Maybe it was me, but MI no reach that guy craft...Imagine being at that level at the early 2000s.

I still they mourn that guy musical demise.[/color]

He quit or hunger touch am?

Sinzu aka Sauce Kid said that absolutely none of them were making money then, and Sinzu was 100 times bigger than Freestyle commercially

Modenine sef done Japa. Looks like he is in London living the life of a poor immigrant which is still much better than the life he led in Naija where he confessed that he goes hungry some days. Freestyle sef dey Yankee

BlueRayDick:
Na why I no blame people like Eldee, Baba dee ( sound sultan's elder bro), and the rest of them that relocated and left the entertainment business the moment they taste soft life well well. They probably forsaw an era they will become egbon àdúgbò like blackface, eedris and Co when dem go dey look up to handouts from new cats to chop and they planned against it

At the time these guys left the industry, they could make more money (and promised more longevity) being a regular professional in USA than a star in Naija

Emaprince:
Corruption about swallow all the that will be made off it.

No be black men again?

Corruption full ground for Qatar, UAE and Saudi. . . . but the revenue to population size still ensure say everybody dey chop. Guyana will be pretty foolish to mess this up

BlueRayDick:
Wetin the two of them dey drag?

Major Oil field wey Guyana find. Venezuela want drag matter wey dem settle since 130 years ago

E be like Japa to Guyana go make sense now cos the oil field too major and life go begin soft for their small population of under 1m people. And dem be black country on top

Venezuela about to invade Guyana. Brazil rushing troops to defend Guyana

Wahala no dey end

Ballzproblem2:
harrysong ,bro wtf.

make I reserve my opinion sha

Talk your mind.

Harrysong is certified if you have a good ear for highlife music. His talent comes from years of leading live highlife bands

Emaprince:
Exactly. Wande came the wrong time.

Only nigga in his league now is Kiss Daniel. I have never heard any bad song from these two.

Reason wande even fell out is because don jazzy delayed putting out songs from wande when his first album was losing its wave. Donj was working on Dbanj next album( I believe) cos they were putting out singles - Mr endowed, scape goat and Oliver twist.. Also other members like dprimce and Dr sid were cooking their albums too. I think this is why wande was shelved and almost ignored so that sid and prince can get their 100% attention. I remember wande went to donj office to rant about it. He threatened he may leave the label cos new youngies (wizkid and davido who were both influenced heavily by wande) were popping already. Long story short...wande lost his fans to wizkid and davido. To make thing worst, these duo refused to let go of the top spot. They continue dropping bangers after bangers...singles after singles...albums after albums. By the time wande came back with "The beat" and some other songs which became my instant favorite, it was difficult to win his fans back because Otilor - e don go. Na so Naija be.

When I see wande, I feel bad. Cos what you see there is a massive talent under appreciated.

Wande is a certified GOAT. Both his voice, different intonations and songwriting

3 guys I don't play with their songwriting are Wande, Burna and HarrySong, all for different reasons

Emaprince:
Kswitch is talented. He was never wack. The guy just needed consistency to drop top level songs. His Lyrics were never mid IMO. And he rhymes very well...multisyllables too. And he already got his own style of flows which wasn't bad.

The problem is he was hiding behind Dbanj shadows. He for really focus more on his craft and work towards becoming "the guy". Also Donjazzy was more invested in Dbanj works cos it was bringing in more money, then you talk wande too (whom to me is in top 5 most talented singers ever out of Nigeria).

K Switch is forever goated for the immortal lines below

Kill em with the rhythm/ and we leaving em no witnesses/
Yeah me money green . . . so me money need Photosynthesis/
BACK UP FROM SUNLIGHT/ BACK UP FROM SUNLIGHT!/ BACK UP FROM SUNLIGHT!!/

Roland17:
Despite their respective successes, Jigga and his wife have only performed twice, so no, it has nothing to with what you are alluding to.

Come on now, Jay and Beyonce did a whole 6 months tour together grossing $250m

WhoDeyHause:
Avennnnggggeeeerrrrrrrss
Assemble

Roland17:
Jigga commercialized and made money off it, isn’t that the dream? Where is the crime? Infact, show me a successful mainstream rapper that isn’t commercialized. Whether the cheating scandal is true or not, it sold. No rapper from the street is clean, the successful ones had to get their acts together to make money! It’s like when people hate on Steve. Steve was a hustler but cleaned up, commercialized and is now wealthy.

On DeHaven and the rest of the rats. I figured someone will bring this up. What is there to talk about on DeHaven? He has been the one running his mouth. He caught a case because of his own stupidity, jumping parole which he has admitted had nothing to do with Jigga.

Goes to jail and starts snitching but somehow this same guy wanted Jigga to come visit him in jail while he was snitching! Have you wondered why DeHaven made it out early for felony crimes that covered 2-3 states? He snitched his way to a reduced sentence! Is that who Jigga should have on his side?

Let’s be clear and you should know this, most drug dealers who also rap are informants for the DEA. How many people has DeHaven used his snitching connection to get out of jail?

This same fool discredits Jigga’s steeet cred, claims he was nothing major but still wonders how Jigga has not caught a drug case with the DEA! Jigga almost lost his life for this dude who we are not still sure about his involvement in the call..admittedly also got shot cos of Jigga.

He goes around saying he wants nothing to do with Jigga but still cries that Jigga won’t talk to him or have him in his circle, is this a joke or what? Are you still best friends with all the friends you grew up with?

“Made men ain’t supposed to make statements”- Jigga.

Haha, you be big Jigga fan

Dehaven ain't snitch nothing. The cause of their falling out is over some show money between Dehaven and Dame Dash. Jigga is reckless to put that in the street without paperwork. Dehaven had quit the game 3 years before he was arrested, that's why he beat his case.

I don't hate the player, nor the game, it is what it is. I just find nothing interesting in Jiggas bland glossed up Hollywood version of events, always full of mistruths, omissions and whitewashing.

You listen to life stories from the likes of 50 Cent, Prodigy etc al, you get the gritty detail, you listen to Jay Z life story, he just skip a lot of years and details.

Can't take anything out of the mouth of a nigga that will commercialise fake cheating scandal with his wife serious. Too much fake it till you make it in his personality. Nigga will own 0.5% of Brooklyn Nets and tell you he's the owner. I rather listen to 50 Cent who will give me specific details of his dealings with likes of Black Just, E Moneybags, Preme and so forth, tell me how he made $18m on his first tour and blew most of it on Mike Tyson house, the mistakes he made and maintenance cost of the house. His specific issues with different characters, exactly how much he made from deals, who he spoke to and how he planned and prepared to get the deal etc

Jay Z is like the friend that will hammer and come and lavish drinks on you just to oppress you, while always being vague on how he hammered, while 50 Cent for example is the friend that will teach you how he made the money so you can both get it.

Jay Z is a natural liar also. Before I can sit down to listen to his life story, I must have picked out 10 lies by ommission in the first 15 minutes. Everything that comes out his mouth is inflated. If he made $5m, you will hear $50m, if he owns small stake, he will tell you he owns the whole company. He is a thirsty nigga to me, even his marriage was just for him to leverage up Beyonces celebrity. Let's be honest, who will be talking of Jay Z musically for the last 10 years if not for Beyonce. A lot of his musical projects are attache to other people like Kanye, R Kelly, Beyonce, Linkin Park etc. He is just a marketer, grabbing new sets of fans from other people's light. When was the last year Jay Z had a standalone hit, 99 problems in mid 2000s?

swiz123:
As for the maestro, he didn’t become an European best player and strong balon d’or contender by playing like a brute.

No he did it by riding the coattails of Kante and Donnaruma simultaneously for one summer and immediately returned thereafter to his level as an inferior benchwarmer for Partey and Basmati