Trevor012: Bring out Ac Milan champions league records from 8yrs span like I did if you have the audacity . The rest of your posts makes zero sense
Keep kwayet nigga. Iniesta goal against AC Milan was in 2012. Tell me how Milan was a big club in 2012 when they hadn't gone past Round 16 in 4 years and even played Europa League in one of those seasons
airmark: Lampard dealt with Barca such that Ronaldinho couldn't hide it.
If Lampard had accepted to go to Barca, there is no tournament that Barca will not win especially those games Iniesta will be waiting for Messi to carry him along, and Messi is unable to save him every time.
Iniesta would have been dragging left wing with Henry at best, if not sent on loan.
Trevor012: Talking like Bayern was big then . These are their records
Bayern Munich 2003-2009: eliminated in the Preliminary Group (2002-03), eliminated in the Round of 16 by Real Madrid (2003-04), eliminated in the Quarter Finals by Chelsea (2004-05), eliminated in the Round of 16 by AC Milan (2005-06), eliminated in the Quarter Finals by AC Milan (2006-07), did not even qualified to the Champions League (2007-08), eliminated in the Quarter Finals by Barcelona (2008-09).
I didn't include assist for Iniesta so keep those in your pockets .
So AC Milan was a big club that you counted for Iniesta? Or Chelsea in 2018 was a big club.
Iniesta one goal against big clubs in UCL and that was at Stamford Bridge in 2009. That's it.
Trevor012: KO stage of the Champions League, against top tier clubs (goals):
Lampard 2006-2012: 6 games vs. Barcelona (one PK goal), 6 games vs. Liverpool (2 open-play goals and one PK goal), 2 games vs. Inter Milan (zero goals), one Final vs. Manchester United (one open-play goal), another 2 games vs. Manchester United (zero goals), and another Final vs. Bayern Munich (zero goals). Total: 3 open-play goals, 2 penalty kicks, out of 22 games.
Why from 2006 nigga?
You don't want to show us where Lampard burned down Camp Nou and Allianz arena repeatedly in 2005?
popizaino: Maybe surely if he wasnt after hell bent on outscoring everyone else,he would have won something with like iniesta did for his national team. Check out how we were able to go all the way in the UCL when mata came and Lampard had to be dropped at the base of the midfield.
You mean the same Mata that was inconsequential to Chelsea UCL victory and was always getting dropped or dragged off early for Kalou while Lampard was setting up Ramirez twice to beat Barca.
No Chelsea fan has anything to say about Mata in UCL 2012. Kalou and Meireles were more important than him. Below is our match at Camp Nou
Debroslink: Can Ibime and Airmark pinpoint any match in 10 years Lampard had with England that the English fans won't ever forget? Just one.
Lampard was England National team Player of the year in 2004 and 2005.
This is Euro 2004 top goalscorers list. He also had 2 assists that tournament.
Can you show me any tournament Iniesta went to with this level of output, rather than relying on Xavi assists to see Spain through all their games till he got to one final and got a lucky break
popizaino: We saw how useful his single digit goals were under luiz Felipe Scolari. At least Lampard with all the records and regulars stats couldn't save us from gradually sliding away from top 4 something which was unusual with Chelsea side having Drogba with enough playing times .
Pull Lampard stats from that season, replace it with Iniesta and tell me where Chelsea would have finished
popizaino: No it only means Drogba's output would have improved. Check messi,villa,Suarez and others that played with iniesta .
When Drogba scored 37 goals per season he was still playing with the same Lampard, same when he scored 33 goals. Lampard scored even more and assisted even more in those seasons.
How will his output improve with a midfielder that goes 1 calendar year with no assist?
popizaino: Malouda has at then was a world cup finalist, tell us what Frank personal glory chaser did with better player with the 3 lions ? Mind you Drogba's single digit returns was what Frank Lampard leached on to ever lay his hands on trophies. If you doubt tell us what he won with Chelsea without Drogba?
Let Iniesta play with strikers with single digit returns and you tell me whether Chelsea will not be sliding toward relegation or midtable. Messi 90 goals kill you dia.
Debroslink: Chelsea had to buy Mata, Oscar and Hazard in order to boost creativity in midfield. Chelsea knew if they had left Lampard alone, there wouldn't be UCL and Europa
This must be the season they bought Mata and Oscar. A 35 year old still had to save them from sliding out of the top 4. They already slid out of UCL group stage when he was injured.
popizaino: Maybe if he wasn't after outsourcing strikers,his club career would have been filled with multiple UCL like iniesta and wouldn't have ended up having a disgraceful national team career. Maybe !
Maybe Surely if Iniesta was flanked by Malouda and Joe Cole, Chelsea would be ending the season in midtable, and maybe even facing relegation in the seasons when Drogba decided to drop single digit returns.
Nigga came all the way to Chelsea thread to write action series
Save your series nigga. All Iniesta has is stories and narratives. When your output is pitiful, you need to start explaining long stories
If you check the stories well sef, it's more narrative. "In the game against Santos, Xavi, Fabregas and Messi scored in a 4-1 win". Iniesta said "this and that after the game"
He scored the most beautiful goal in a 5-0 win Vs Sevilla in Copa final, yada yada yada."
Fück outta here with your carryalong stories of inconsequential goals covered with Wole Soyinka narrative. Remove Iniesta goal, it will still be a 4-0 win. We are used to difference makers, not carryalongs.
We don't care what he may have done in finals people took him to nigga. A leach who depends on people to take him to finals then come start yarning "when it mattered most".
If he played for my club, he would have been sent on loan to Portsmouth.
Kilishihunter: Senior man, you don see opening sha , He didn't have enough player votes to displace xavi, iniesta, xabi Alonso, Gerrard in 09, sneidjer in 10 and later Pogba and Modric so you can't really blame him there and him not having goals and assists like his other 'advanced' midfielders didn't help his case, I knew he wasn't in the fifpro 11 before I put it here but your eyes say the FIFA 2010 all star team na, at least if he did virtually nothing he got recognized there and by in team selections, Casemiro was a vital part of the three peat yet players with better stats pushed him out, does that mean he isn't a great player? You might care about the goals and assists, Well they are the most important in a match, but others also care about the inner workings on the pitch that lead to the goals and assists, Is it not Kante's activity all over the pitch rather than the main stats that put him in god status?
Ngolo Kante has made FIFPRO11 bro, PFA POTY, top 10 in Balon d'Or etc etc. Makelele made FIFPRO11, even Frankie DeJong . Even Marcos Senna won Spanish POTY