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Kilishihunter:
Na Oga ibime's type of dm be that na, not a deep lying thinker

No let black skin deceive you. Carvalho is one of those Busquets type of DM that like to pass but can't run. He is the definition of escort.

At the start of this tournament, I said Portugal have a good team but their main weakness is in CM apart from Ruben Neves

Danilo has very poor technique but had decent pace when I last saw him in Euro 2016. Maybe he has lost it.

Check this post I made about Carvalho and Danilo last year

Ibime:
There are things many fans don't see about escorting that will make them happy with a liability.

The below video is an example of how an escort can make a team vulnerable without fans thinking he has played poorly. This is William Carvalho vs Danilo Perreira. It shows why Portugal prefer Danilo despite being way less technically proficient than Carvalho.

This was always my problem with Mikel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSsC2TDVLeM

Godx:
This is just rubbish. Loose touch ko loose touch Ni. Story for the Gods.
Stay in one place. So basically he should try to nick the ball from Mane and still follow Henderson run from Midfield into the box? When I said haters have zero ability to reason I wasn't lying. This is a plain example

Swear that Danilo or Carvalho would not reach that Mane loose touch and boot it out

I'm sure you saw he was with Hendo, jogged across to try to stop Mane, couldn't get there, while the Hendo he was with ran through to assist.

If he had the pace of even Danilo or Carvalho, he would have ended that move at Mane. If he knew he can't do it, then he should have stayed with Hendo and let the defender face Mane.

What a useless DM!

donstan18:
With Danilo too.

Look at Germany’s second goal, you’ll see them strolling and Jogging.

Also the last attack Germany went now, Danilo was jogging.

He’s injured now I think.

Those guys dey deceive everybody with black skin, but Carvalho is ten times worse

donstan18:
True!!

William Na better escort.

Carvalho that slow coach? That guy dey deceive everybody with him black skin. Nigga is one of the slowest DM you will ever see.

donstan18:
Watching the analysis, I can’t help but admit that escort type of Dms are big liability.

Welcome to the light

Godx:
This is the first goal by origi full clip. The mental gymnastic it will take to blame Busquet will be extraordinary. Go ahead and tell us how Busquet conceded the first goal.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgHVmtKQToU

Hahahahaha. Don't even need to. He is right there on the scene of the crime!

The snail is so slow. Mane took a loose touch. Every other player would have got there and killed that move dead on Manes loose touch but the snail being so slow could not close gap quick enough and allowed Mane to recover his loose touch to play in Henderson.

Swear to me that Danny Drinkwater won't be close enough to Mane by the time Mane takes that loose touch and boot the ball out. The moment Alba nodded that ball you can see Busquet running toward Mane but unfortunately at the speed of a milkfloat!

Godx:
Liverpool vs Barca.


1st goal........Jordi Alba Error

2nd goal.......Jordi Alba foolishness again

3rd goal...... Cross from wide

4th goal .......Setpiece


But let's blame Busquet. Please don't be Daft o

Rubbish!

Like I said escorts are always off camera when goals are scored. Goals are rarely due to a singular error. Errors are usually solved quickly if other teammates are not derelict of their duty

First goal, Henderson ran from midfield unchallenged into the box to shoot which keeper spilled out for the goal. Who is supposed to be following the Liverpool midfield runners.

2nd and 3rd goal, Gini Wijnaldum runs through unchallenged to score. Again whose primary job is it to see a Liverpool midfielder breaking the lines and follow him?

Escorts always look for who made an error to blame because they are not on the scene when opposition is punching through.

Even numerous corners opposition are getting in these matches is due to defence getting overwhelmed and being put in many one-on-one situations forcing them to concede corners. A good midfield does not leave their defence repeatedly in one-on-one situations.

basilico:
Another religion hater. There are rotten people in the evangelicals and main stream churches and in Islam too.
Blanketing them catholic paedos is uncalled for.
Dems have a paedo problem .

Forgive my blanket generalisation which was aimed specifically at those bishops, but you must admit there have been higher incidence of paedophilia in the Catholic church arguably due to their priests vow of celibacy which may attract paedos who find that an easy way to escape societal pressures to get married.

The white nationalist evilgelicals are also mostly Trumpanzees

Godx:
Yes the Dm will play in attack, Midfield, Defense and in Post as well. He will also be the one to defend all the corners in which Barca have been conceding from in all those Champions league matches. Well done

One thing I know about football is that even Baresi and Maldini will concede goals if the midfield infront of them is non existent. Meanwhile Wes Morgan and Isaac Semitoje will defend a 3 or 4 goal lead as long as the midfield infront is competitive and compact.

These disgraces have been going on for almost a decade and Busquet is the only constant. Keepers and defenders have come and gone and Busquet is still chopping disgrace year upon year.

Next time Barca build a 4-0 first leg lead, they need to approach Chelsea for 2 weeks loan for Danny Drinkwater to see the job through as Busquet is obviously incompetent. What a fücking liability.

Godx:
Engaging or even trying to reason with an hater is always fruitless and a big waste of time. Basically Barca success has nothing to do with Busquet he was just a carryay but when Barca lose a match it becomes Busquet conceded 4goals against Psg.

Put Danny Drinkwater and Isaac Hayden in front of Eyimba defence and they will see through a 4-0 lead against any team in the world.

But oh no, not Busquets

Even Angola won't be disgraced 4-0 in World Cup against any team, but asking a DM in one of the best teams in the world to protect a 4-0 lead over 90 minutes has turned to rocket science. Repeatedly his attackers keep building first leg leads and he keeps throwing them away in 2nd leg.

Godx:
This is the height of daftness. Yes it was Busquet conceding those goals not Barca.

An average DM defends 3-0 and 4-0 leads easily.

Even Danny Drinkwater will not let such lead slip.

To overturn such a lead, you first need to overwhelm the midfield, in particular the defensive midfielder.

It's like Messi needs to win the first leg 7-0 before you can be sure that the escort Busquet will see Barca home. What a fücking liability.

timbros:
Lol...

Saybi know PH well, no be where Town dey. All those Borokiri side, I no know that area at all. If e don pass Station Road, Moscow Road, Creek Road my hand no dey again

E be like say Ibime na Town boy sef.

New places dey spring up for Town wey dem develop after my time. During my time, Borokiri stop for Comprehensive, but now dem done reclaim land all the way to Ipukulu waterside. I no even sabi wetin dem dey call those new areas. When I dey town, they were still sandfilling all those areas, na there we dey go swim.

Godx:
1) 2014/2015 Barca won the treble with Busquet Manning the midfield so that's a big fat L to you.


2) Your 2nd paragraph is blatantly dumb. Bayern dominated the entire Barca Midfield in 2013. Putting it on solely Busquet is even more stupid.

3)Yes MSN was playing in attack, defense, Midfield and also keeping in Goalpost too when barca won the treble. Bravo

Busquets is just a carryalong who plugged into to an already victorious Barca and Spain team who were already Champions before he joined the team. He is the DM version of Pedro. The only difference is Pedro gets judged on goals and assists while Busquets has been living off narratives for the last decade. He has been redundant since 2012/13 and was only relevant from 2009/10 - a short span of 3 years. It's not like Barca weren't European Champions when he joined or Spain weren't dominant Euro champions.


Explain why Busquets has been posting cricket scores in UCL since 2017

2013 - Bayern 7-Barca 0. Busquet chasing shadows as Barca get råped.

2016 - lost 2-0 at home to Atleti to get dumped out. Couldn't defend a first leg lead at home.

2017 - lost 3-0 to Juve in a single match and dumped out. Conceded 4 goals to PSG in a single match in the prior round only to be saved by UEFALONA and his attackers.

2018 - conceded 3 goals at home to Roma to get knocked out. Couldn't defend a 4-1 first leg lead

2019 - couldn't defend a 3-0 lead given by Messi in first leg. Whitewashed 4-0 by Liverpool

2020 - conceded 8 goals in 90 mins vs Bayern

2021 - conceded 4 goals at home vs PSG. Whitewashed 5-2.


If getting whitewashed is your thing, call Busquets. An escort you can rely on to turn your midfield into a highway for opposition to do what they like.

Godx:
Just like how Busquet was roasted in 2014 when Barca won the Treble. What an embarrassing post.

2015 actually. Embarrassment is on you.

You think I didn't know that when I posted. I deliberately put 2013 because of the 7-0 embarrassment Bayern handed to them in 2013 while Busquets was escorting all over the pitch and couldn't stop a single counterattack. And 2013 was when the German vertical gengen style started to influence this era which renders escorts like Busquets redundant.

Even an escort may get carried to a trophy inspite of himself, as MSN did for him in 2015 but apart from that, his escorting and uselessness as a DM had been exposed all over Europe in this modern era from Roma to Liverpool to Bayern.. Busquets cannot man DM in UCL in this era without returning an embarrassing scoreline for Barcelona. Last season own was 8 goals conceded in just 90 minutes. Man is living off the glory of a previous era when escorts could be accomodated because attackers were not that fast.

sanpipita:
USA catholic bishops are drafting a document to target Biden from receiving communion even after Vatican has warned is a bad idea.

I just can't wait for the backlash, the left/leftists will serve them proper breakfast.

One visit from Pope to Biden will let those politics playing paedophiles in church robes know they are nothing but cockroaches in the grand scheme of things.

donstan18:
I don’t mean to misconstrue you, but are you indirectly saying Busquet was a passenger under Pep?

Busquets is a passenger at least since 2013.

That's not to say he wasn't slow in 2009, but all he faced then were slow Malouda and Lampard type players trying to join Drogba after Drogba knockdown long ball. That was the version of counterattack he faced back then.

In this day and age where teams set up for hyper-speed on counterattack, Mane, Son, Salah, Sane, Gnabry, Coman, Neymar, Mbappe type players will roast a passenger like Busquets and they have been roasting him steady since 2013.

OpenHeaven2019:
I like Ibime waited despite all the hullabaloo for his orders to get filled.

Trading is:

- 1% Execution
- 99% Waiting

Patience is the most underrated trading skill.

Well this is swing trading time so you have to wait to fill your orders. If market is bubbling and there are breakout trades to be played, FOMO can also be an asset during a hyper altcøin cycle.

donstan18:
How well do you think Jorginho will fare under Bayern and Barcelona of Pep?

Less than Rodri.

He will win a few titles, people will hail him for making 80-100 passes but ultimately, he will be the target for opposition managers to break through.

Fernandinho is one of the best things that happened to Pep in EPL. A player that can pass and run. Pep found him there, he won't usually go for him, but that's the kind of player you need as DM in a high possession team.

BlueAngel444:
Lol I tire.
When Ibime started with Jorginho is easy to press, tried reminding him he's one of the most difficult players in Italy to press.

To resist press is a team effort, no one can survive an isolated press that's why the tactic works.

Jorginho is comfortable to receive the ball anywhere and would hardly pick the wrong pass or one that puts the team in a difficult position, when he is in possession reclaiming the ball is hardly an option. What Ibime wants is for Jorginho to be "fast" which is a bit unrealistic.

Bournemouth and David Brooks will beg to disagree.

Jorginho has no half turn and can't spin away from a player on his back, so he can never be press resistant. He is the only belle-face deeplying playmaker I have ever seen.

All Jorginho does is move into space with no one around him before he can turn and play forward. If any player is on his back or within 5 yards, he will play the ball back belle-face to where it came from. That's why someone said all he does is avoid mistakes. The minute you give him ball with someone on his back, a mistake is likely.

Press resistant ko, press resistant ni.

BlueAngel444:
Ibime answer this question

Thank God verrati no dey, so answer

Jorginho has been Jorginho with or without Kante

Who has Italy played?

So far I see them hailing Locatelli and Barella and some even calling for Chelsea to sign Locatelli to replace Jorginho.

BlueAngel444:
When you show me where Holjerbg or the DMs you like have entered such?

Can't recall Cesar being voted though. Yet is Cesar not good.

Hojberg was voted 3rd in Spurs POTY this past season behind Kane and Son.

Azpilicueta won the players POTY in 2014 and features high in fan voting for awards

Can you show me where Jorginho even placed top 7 in fan awards?

The hailings is in your head.

BlueAngel444:
lie lie, Jorginho hailings came before he joined chelsea, continued after he joined

Can you show me one instance where Jorginhos name has been mooted to even enter the 5th PFA team of the year, or where he will be in the top 5 players nominated or voted for Chelsea POTY.

Jorginho can't finish top 5 in any Chelsea POTY vote for 3 years in a row, so who is hailing him? Infact point me to a single fan poll that voted Jorginho in the top 7 for Chelsea POTY in his 3 years at Chelsea.

Under Jorginhos watch, also-rans like Kovacic and Mount are winning POTY. These are players who should be finishing 5th or 6th in voting if Chelsea players were performing.

The hailing is only in your head.

swiz123:
Jorginho has been playing as a lone DM whilst overseeing the Azurri's 10th straight clean sheet. I wonder why national team managers haven't taken advantage this or is it that it is not as easy as special pundit Ibime wants us to believe

Wait let them jam strong team. Playing Granit Xhaka is no benchmark.

swiz123:
When we dominate big teams, like we did to City in the league game, you give anyone not Jorgs credit. If the reverse becomes the case, you give push the blame solely on Jorgs.

We dominated ATM with Jorgs completing the most passes and most progressive passes yet he his only good against Newcastle

Obviously you have little clue what you are saying as Jorginho was benched for the league game in favour of Gilmour, besides Man City put out their B team.

ATM is a low block team. They don't consider themselves dominated just cos you have more possession. They allow you to have it. What makes us have the upper hand in those games are the runs made by Kante, Mount and co to punch through and create overloads, not because they allowed Jorginho to pass the ball to his defenders.

swiz123:
Jorginho's tackles is my rough estimate of how many times he engaged against Madrid. I wasn't really counting for Gilmour. I only noticed he pressed well in Mildfield especially on Mount. However, he got tired in the second half and couldn't show up for passes like he used to and his sub confirmed by suspicion.

Well all I'm saying is don't compare your eye test to official tackle stats. . . they are not the same.

Also Jorginho maxis trying to sell Jorginho to us on number of tackles are barking up the wrong tree.

You can never sell Jorginho to us on tackles or any defensive metric. Every man and his dog knows that's not his USP.

Sell him to us on his ability to dominate games in midfield, of which he has been an utter failure against any decent team.

Nobody on planet earth ever sold Xavi or Pirlo to us based on their number of tackles.

donstan18:
Jorginho under Pep will be incomparable with any ball playing non-combat dm.


He’ll be world class.

Chelsea fans are used to combat dms Na why I no too blame those criticizing him and disrespecting him by comparing him to Gilmore.

Jorginho under Pep will be the weakest point of the Pep team through which opposition launch their counterattacks, just like Rodri, infact worse.

That's why Pep benched Rodri for UCL final. He may as well not bother with Kante running through.

Difference is Rodri has height and strength and is useful for outmuscling players before having to get in a foot race with them. He's also useful for stopping long balls.

Jorginho hailings are only rising because of the UCL where Tuchel put low block and community defence around him. Should he be at Man City playing in the opponents half, it will be a field day for counterattacking opponents.

BlueAngel444:
them being right and your dislike are two different things, selling an older player for a younger one is smarter.


When did 6.3 become lower than 6.2

And when did only whoscore become the official rating site besides you cannot bet your left eye that after watching that final that Jorginho wasn't good and he didn't give his best

Jorginho gave his best in that final but was still our weakest link. Madrid had only 4 potential goalscoring situations, and all 4 were due to his inability to stay with runners, which I highlighted here.

He was the weakest of the 11 players.

BlueAngel444:
Dear brother Ibime, I write to you from afar, I see that in the picture you added in your last post, Jorginho had a star beside it. Could you please shed more light to what that star means.

Yours sincerely,
Angel from Above

The only person I saw holding this was Kante. Something Gilmour is constantly holding and Jorginho is never holding.

swiz123:
I don't know what they count as official tackle and I don't care to know. Once you throw your foot to stop a player or steal the ball from their grasp, you have made a tackle, successful or not successful

It's good you said you kuku don't know. Well you have learned something today. 2 tackles per game is very healthy and 3 tackles per game will put you in the top 3 for tackles in any premier league season. BTW, I don't put much stall in tackles. Tackles only tells me a players style of play, not their level of performance. I also find it laughable how Jorginho fans started hanging on to tackles metric recently, as if tackles is going to be Jorginhos selling point. Really nigga?

So the 2 tackles you quoted as Gilmour having against England, did you read that from internet or did you count it yourself?

Needless to say, you read from internet and tried to equate it to your biro and paper method of counting tackles which gave Jorginho 11 tackles against Madrid - in an effort to downplay Gilmours efforts by comparing apples with oranges but the two don't equate.

OJURONGBE1:
That guy divides opinion amongst fans

Those guys are right. Chelsea should just use this opportunity to sell him now his stock is at the highest. It will be a sore mistake to keep him and try to build on him as DM foundation going forward.

This is someone who can not make PFA 5th team of the season for any single season he has played in England.

We need a proper DM, not fake poor mans Pirlo. If we must persist with deep lying playmaker at DM, Gilmour has that covered and is better than Jorginho at anything Jorginho is supposed to be good at.

Gilmour has been MOTM in all his major debuts and against big opponents. No one can remember Jorginho being MOTM against any decent team. His disciples want to hold onto UCL win but he was still our least performing player in that game.

Notyamate:
I'm not sure, most new coin launch on Uníswâp, Páncâkeswap, etc.

Yes, so Dodo price is related to its adoption, not because it has a sleek and stable UI.

swiz123:
Is Gilmour making 2 tackles per game? The guy was making reference to Gilmour's tackling ability based on his performance in this game and I was pointing out that he made only two tackles.

McGinn made more in that game and I remember Jorginho making at least 11 clean tackles against Madrid while on a yellow card

How will Jorginho make 11 clean tackles against Madrid?

You remember, or you checked the stats . . . .cos it's clear you don't know how tackles are counted officially.

Next time don't make comment like "Gilmour only made 2 tackles against England" which will just highlight your ignorance about the tackles metric.

Below is Jorginhos number of tackles against Madrid which was 2, exactly the same amount as Gilmour vs England. Stop counting nonsense and leave the counting to Opta.