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tamonokare:
Hello crypto enthusiasts and investors , i am a Nigerian developer working on a no fee, no kyc, non custodial crypto trading platform where traders trade directly with each other at location suitable for the seller and the buyer. When you post ads only people in you local government area would see it and do business with you. The platform is in testing stage now and I'll like you to check it out . Indicate interest if you are interested in joining the team. Anybody can join the team. If you have marketing strategy or you know how we can make this project a success please join the team. Right now it is just me and i doubt the project can be a success without other people in the team. For now, the name of the p2p platform is Ninance but it is subject to change if my team members desire so.


Please encourage me by checking out and don't forget to leave a feedback. For feedback or If you're interested to make this project great my email address is

anthoniatamonokare@gmail.com

Check out Ninance: https://ninance.glideapp.io/

For now you can use only four states and the FCT as your State of Origin to register and only 5 cryptos are traded on the platform. . I'll complete it after the testing.

Nice work. Can you develop tokens?

swiz123:
You are drifting from our arguement. I never compared Jorginho with Horjberg. I am fully aware of Jorgs deficiencies.

My arguement is that Horjberg is not good at tackling like his style of play where he pants up and down the pitch panting.... Forming serious activity.

His lack of efficiency is seen in his team's league position.

He is the third best in his team. Every other player in that team had a poor season apart from him, Kane and Son. That's the reason for their league position. 3 players cannot make a team.

Hojberg performance this season would win Chelsea POTY for the past two seasons that they had to give to Kovacic and Mount in the absence of a serious contender. Jorginho was nowhere near the conversation despite the bar being set so low.

Even in passing, Hojberg has the 2nd highest pass volume this season. Jorginhos deficiencies are clear, he is a ninny. But his so called strength of passing is not even above Hojberg. Someone who would throw passes against Sheffield United yet get bullied by common Nakamba and McGinn, Ndidi and Tielemans. Jorginho has no strengths my friend, unless you are talking against Sheffield United, Newcastle or Palace.

popizaino:
I don't underrate him because of his defensive deficiencies,I don't even know if he got one, but for the fact is that he is completely useless with the ball. Playmaker are often suppose to be the most intelligent players on the field because of their abilities to have their eyes at the back of their head,and also to turn defense into attack but this simple thing is lacking in jorginho's game .

Well I agree with your point about his attacking transition play but you have always had blind spot when it comes to defensive responsibilities. It is good you kuku said you don't know anything about the defensive responsibilities of that position, which is why you are equally off the mark when it comes to Fabregas and Mikel in those positions.

My view on DM is simple. A DM passing, receiving of the ball and defending must be 7/10, at the very least 6/10. I don't need a 10/10 in one attribute and 0/10 in the other. I also believe the person in that position must be fairly fast to stop counterattacks as every modern team plays highline now and their weak area is getting caught on counterattack when they have escort DMs like Jorginho, Busquets and Rodri. If you don't have this pace in that position, it will often force the manager to deviate from attacking set-up and set-up low block with team sitting deep so that the escort doesn't get exposed. This is what TT has been doing for Jorginho. Our team can never move forward and establish an attacking pattern of play with such DM. Escort like Rodri is lucky Pep is willing to take the risk of keeping the highline, but he has better ball keepers to mitigate those counterattacks such that opportunities for counterattack are minimised, and superfast defenders like Walker and Cancelo to mitigate against Rodris absence on any counterattack while Rodri is still on halfway line jogging back slowly.

swiz123:
Your theory on Fernandes is purely based on calculated assumptions. They are subject to errors at times. Fernandes is dribbled often because he is not a good tackler and often mistimes his movement. He easily get body-feinted too and he is not bothered because that is not what he is known for. Mount won't get dribbled like Fernandes because his game is predicated on high press. So, Fernandes' position on the chart negates your earlier claim that being dribbled often is an indicator how often a player tackles. According to you, a player dribbled often must be seen in the highest tackle chart.

Not that Fernandes is a good tackler but the highest contributor to the reason he gets dribbled is because Manure play in two phases. Their front 4 is always separated from their back 6 so it is easy to run past Fernandes and know that you have 15 yards of space to run into before you meet Fred and McTominay. No other team in EPL has such gap between midfield and attack. Anything Fernandes does to stop someone running into that space is a token effort. Him self knows he can't stop it 9 times out of 10 cos the space is too much.

On the other hand, nobody will bother to dribble Jorginho knowing that within 3 yards, you will bump into Rudiger, Thiago or Chris.

Put Jorginho in the kind of space Hojberg operates in, and every player in the Premier League will just knock the ball past him and rãpe him. That's what makes him an escort, and he practically avoids one-on-one and hides within a community of defenders around him every game to avoid such situations, preferring to point to others than engage. Hojberg on the other hand operates in space and is often in a do-or-die situation with more riding on his ability to stop the man one-on-one.

On the other hand, everytime Jorginho face someone one-on-one in space, we get a good gif to laugh at eg him Vs Robertson at Anfield last season or the Son situation donstan posted earlier.

Intelligence ko, intelligence ni. Brain of Einstein can't help you when you are physically deficient. Everybody will rãpe Jorginho one-on-one, so he prefers to hide amongst bodies and you call that intelligent. When has Jorginho ever left the midfield to engage someone on the byline when a fullback is out of position. I hope you know that's one of DMs primary duties, something DMs like Fabinho do multiple times per game. Makelele was known for that too. I've never seen Jorginho on line, he will rather call for centreback to go out there, breaking our defensive structure.

Last time even Rodri came out to byline to meet a slow striker like Kane, he was running behind Kane looking up to heavens for salvation. That's escort 101.

swiz123:
Your conspicuously avoided Fernandes. I thought stats for getting dribbled past reveals a players style of play. Your theory is not consistent with fact and should be rejected.

Fernandes is not on tackles chart so getting dribbled past is not an indicator of his style of play. Like I said, when you see a player on both charts, you are talking style of play not inefficiency. Fernandes getting dribbled is easy - he plays in an area of the pitch with plenty space and tries to press up so easy to drift past him into space. You are more likely to try to dribble past a man who is isolated without teammates around him, and that's why Fernandes is often dribbled because he keeps too much space between himself and his DMs due to how high he plays.

swiz123:
If Ndidi is third in the chart and his tackles is proportionately more successful, then he is still efficient. Even though his efficiency might have dropped or improved based on the period of time the charts suggests.

This is an asinine conclusion. Charts are against other players, not against ones own performance. You could be top of the chart for tackles with 2 tackles per game, and 10th for dribble past with 10 dribbles past or game. Is that a marginal efficiency?

swiz123:
Some coaches prioritize intelligence on the ball. If you can tackle, then it's their advantage. There interest is mostly on the technical aspect of a DMF.
That's why Pep plays Rodri, why he used Busquet, loved Alcantara. Their game ready ability and choice of passing is excellent and he loves it that way. It actually makes him dominant.

The philosophy is to have all the possession and little need to make tackles. Almost every team foul City more because they are elegant.

Dostan18 , I just revealed what you should bet on on Saturday. Chelsea must foul City more.

Pep can never have any need for a tout like Horjberg.

And yet Jorginho doesn't not have intelligence to play as a DM with two defenders behind him. He needs 3 defenders in order not get rãped.

I mentioned Makelele, don't think he can't tackle. He was top tackler in Spain but changed his style when he got to England cos he has Tiago and Essien to harrass players, then he just pick the ball. In Madrid, Guti and co abandoned midfield for him so he had to tackle.like a.madman to cover gaps.

All those Rodri, Busquets are escorts just benefitting off the fact their team keeps 80% possession. There are players that can do both. Fernandinho who you would call a thug anchored City to 99 points or so whereas Rodri is a comedown from that. You think Hojberg who is almost matching Rodri for volume of passes at Spurs will not match him at City, while offering better defensive stability to stop counterattacks? Is it not to pass ball left, right, centre, abi is Rodri dropping defense splitting passes like Pirlo? He is just playing give I give.which Fernandinho did same before him while offering better defensive cover.

Bring Rodri to Chelsea and you would see how useless he is. Take Jorginho to City and you would be hailing him as your favourite DM. Those are unique situations for those players within a style of play. Just because Pep can get the best players in every position and dominate the ball does not mean we have to be stüpid and try and copy him by putting escort DM in our team. Jorginho is the perfect example, a useless player who can't make top 5 in Chelsea POTY where nobodies like Mount and Kovacic are winning it. Look how useless Busquets became when all that structure was taken away from him for the last 6 years.

Try turning Chelsea into a poor man's Barca and we will become as trophyless as Roma, Villarreal and other poor men's Barca. This is the difference between fantasists like yourself and realists like me.

swiz123:
Why isn't Ndidi topping the stats of ppl getting dribbled most despite having the most tackles within that period.? The interpretation is that, the marginal efficiency of his tackles is greater than 1.

Ndidi is on the chart of people getting dribbled past. Season below, he was the top tackler in the Premier League and third on Dribbled Past. Once again, you don't know how to interpret stats. All you have done is showed us the players style of play, not his weakness.

And Allan was called the best ball recoverer in Europe by Ancelotti.

One doesn't have to be a massive tackler to be a good DM. Makelele did not tackle much.

However ranking high on Dribbled Past chart and Tackles chart speaks more about your style of play.

If a high energy tackler is on Dribbles Past chart, it just means that his style of play is to harrass and engage, not because he is useless.

swiz123:
The arguement isn't between escorts and tacklers. I am telling you that Horjberg getting "dribbled" (emphasis on the word) 75 times in maybe less than 38 matches shows that he is not an efficient tackler. Contesting and losing a duel is not the same as getting dribbled.

Allan is top for being dribbled past per game, and also third for tackles per game. Which one is it? Is he a bad tackler?

Allan engages so he gets dribbled, simple, while he also wins tackles. Jorginho does neither, hiding on all the tables like he hides on the pitch off-camera in defensive situations.

Monkey dey work, baboon dey chop.

If you see anyone topping dribbled past tables, you are also likely to see them in tackles tables. Ndidi often appears in both tables.

You don't know how to interpret stats.

donstan18:
I’ve not watched him that well, I just know him as a combat dm.

The reason I rate him is he can do both. I don't like any weakness in my CMs, whether technically or physically. There's a reason why he is only second to Rodri in passes this season. Till date, a DM partner for Kante is a need for Chelsea cos Kovacic does not have discipline to play there and Jorginho lacks the physical tools. That's why we are still being linked with Rice. Hojberg would have solved that problem for cheap, and would not need 3 defenders behind him to even look like a DM.

swiz123:
Your understanding of this is purely theoretical. Practically, whatever an attacker does to bypass you is counted as a dribble. If an attacker runs past an 'escort', technically, the escort has been dribbled.

This is rubbish. Most escort work is done tracking a man off the ball. Failing to keep up with a man off the ball who could then receive a pass to score or assist is not a dribble past. It's just escort work. 90% of escorting failures happen off the ball, not on the ball.

donstan18:
Hojberg and Kante will be a disaster, unless we’ll be playing 3 midfielders for another flexible and calculative player to pair with them.

Hojberg and Kante will be just fine. Hojberg is a decent passer too

Hojberg finished 3rd in Spurs POTY awards behind Kane and Some

Fans award, he also finished 3rd.

I wonder when Chelsea fans will consider Jorginho rather than 80% of them wanting to chase him away with sticks and stones.

He is so useless that Kovacic and Mount of all people have been winning award and he wasn't considered.

Imagine Jorginho anchoring a back 4 defence. Na die we dey. TT is just protecting him with back 3 for now. He is a liability in the long term.

Melvyn11:
We are not talking about passes here . All my stats are from Squwaka player comparison matrix per 90mins for each player.

Passes, Hojberg is bossing him. Tackles, Hojberg is bossing him. What is Jorginhos use case if he cannot outpass a so called ginger player.

Hojberg has been in EPL 5 years with 842 duels won. Jorginho has been 3 years with 368 duels won.

Hojberg has been in EPL 5 years with 1,218 recoveries, Jorginho has been in EPL 3 years with 689 recoveries.

Should we help you with Maths?

Passing, Assists, tackling, running, Hojberg is ahead on everything.

Melvyn11:
He only had better stats for aerial duals only only while Jorginho wins on ground duels. The matter on ground now is your opinion and the stats are not aligning one bit. Should we trust your opinion over the stats which are showing us Jorginho is more efficient than Højbjerg?

Average passes per Game, Hojberg top 10. No sign of Jorginho

Average tackles per game, Hojberg top 20. No sign of Jorginho.

Jorginho no fit defend better, he no dey even pass more than Hojberg which is supposed to be his specialty as an escort.

Where are you getting your stats from?

Melvyn11:
Please help us that don't watch ball with video evidence of this so called escorts doing so .

Sometimes even cameraman leaves them behind.

That's why I say the work of an escort is marked by their absence, not by their presence.

Melvyn11:
Ibime I am checking the stats per 90mins from Squwaka and it seems like even Jorginho has better defensive stats and at an ever better rate of success than Højbjerg. What do you have to say? Could it be that some players are more Sensible than others and don't dive in foolishly?

I counted 8 black stars for Hojberg. How many did you count for Jorginho? Do you need an optician? Count and tell me.

Bear in mind anything you see Jorginho doing is in community defence with 3 defenders behind him who must have harrried the opponent into congested area for Jorginho to do clean work. Hojberg work is done in space, on his own strength.

Melvyn11:
Get where? Does dribbling a player involves when the player is behind you?

Your answer below

donstan18:
Escorts don’t mark, they don’t face opponents, they don’t attempt to challenge them.

They escort them to do what they want to do and how they want to do it. How can a player dribble an escort that didn’t challenge him?

Una no dey watch ball?

Melvyn11:
By your definition then escorts should be the ones getting dribbled more since they are useless and easily bypassed unlike the almighty Højbjerg but it's the opposite here. Maybe he is actually all ginger with no efficiency.

No, escorts don't engage because they don't get there.

Every player loses approximately half their duels.

The more you duel, the more you lose. Also the more you win. Escorts don't duel.

Fourth picture is Ngolo Kante duels showing he loses half his duels

1st and 2nd picture shows Wilfred Ndidi and Fernandinho placing high on Dribbled Past per game stats in previous seasons.

3rd picture shows Allan being dribbled past the most per game last season.

You will never see a püssy escort like Jorginho on such lists, because he is always strolling 5 yards behind or outside camera frame.

Usually when you see a player on Dribbled past list, check tackles made, he will also be there. All that means is his style of play is to engage opponents frequently.

The transvestite should keep exposing his poor grasp of stats

Passes gon. Number two in the league

Tackles. Number 3

Escorts who never need to be dribbled, who just jog while opposition run past them will never show up on dribbled stats

Melvyn11:
Like swz123 said A definition of all gingers no efficiency.

When you escort all day, nobody dribbles you

Melvyn11:
Let me help you to direct it properly. ibime you have a mail sir lol

That's how we know players that engage with opposition frequently unlike escorts that will be jogging 5 yards behind and never engage to get dribbled. Plus those who play more matches against those who chop bench.

ApostleBlack:
@Jedisco, @Ibeme, @Openheaven and others pls.

Seems the train have left d station and some of us are not in yet.

Please what will be a good entry for ETH, ADA and MATIC during this consolidation. I'm 50% of my capital down (2k) and I don't wanna FOMO in.

I will appreciate if you can suggest other coins with good momentum aswell and good entry. Thanks!

Train hasn't left. It's still coming back. I'm in same boat. I will buy at 37 or 43

6ixT8:
No I didn't.

Ok, na Carling Cup sure pass

valenti12:
That is to say I won't be in the FA Cup this coming season.
You fit still hold a spot for me

Thanks

That is to to say if you come on time, you will get a spot.

I no fit hold spot past few days. It's too much admin to keep up with who is who. As soon as I confirm you are a top performer or have done well in the past, I send code. I won't keep a list somewhere waiting for people to fill that might not even exercise the code after I send it to them two weeks later, leaving the cup unfilled

bigx:
These days people use snipe bots and buy as much as possible in the first few seconds of listing.

Once normal people start buying and price rises the bots sell.

You can't find that on token sniffer,

You can't be faster than a bot.

That sh*tcoin space get as e be

I'm thinking of buying bog to use Bogged finance sniper feature sef. The only problem is they got hacked recently

Tolu181:
don't create FUD here, this guy

Mod ban this guy....

No we need all info here. Nairaland money cannot move market

Na wa oh

Someone will sell position and go to sleep thinking it might drop overnight, then the Chinese will come and take the train further away.

Now we are looking for reentry again

6ixT8:
Even if na Carling cup. Abeg create space for me.

Be ready 1st July. Spots dey fill up quick. Did you participate this season?

Ibime:
ETC and YFI doing me well

Closed my positions for today at 5% profit.

Have set orders a bit lower than my previous orders for a retest of $32-$35k.

BeeTeeCee struggling at that $38k mark.

SodO9:
Typical scummies line
We will be back fc

Better people dey talk Eph12 sef dey chook mouth.

Well I agree he will improve next season, you can't score lower than F9

bigx:
The World economy (everybodies money, countries, companies, Bezos, everything ) has a market cap of $38tn.

Slight correction. Global GDP is $90trln and that is produced within a year. So the total value of the world is in the gazillions.

Gold Marketcap alone is $11trln