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raumdeuter:
Let anyone who thinks City got ref assistance bring the receipts like I brought and lets compare the decisions that favor City with those that favor Liverpool and see who benefitted more

Go and argue with the experts

https://www.sportbible.com/football/football-liverpool-would-have-won-the-league-last-season-if-var-was-used-20190809

raumdeuter:
FA wanted Liverpool to win last season giving them ojoro calls but City overcame against all odds

Mention those unfair advantages and lets count them side by side with Liverpools

Last season ALone

Boly scored from with his hand vs City which was counted

vs Liverpool Son Heung-min was brought down in the box deep in added time as Tottenham sought an equaliser, but Michael Oliver waved away his vociferous appeals

City vs Liverpool, Lovren fouled AGuero not given

Mitrovic header vs Liverpool was ruled offside when replays showed it was a goal.

They did VAR check on all incidents last season and said Liverpool would have won by one point. So all this talk is based on small sample size.

Adisaowallla:
I can sense that you re scripting something in your head already.

Abeg drop lines joor

Nah, it's a tough one for Vector to win cos MI diss was stinging but he can turn it around.

8 bars to start the diss from Vector on how MI supports Xenophobia and only cares about his commercial relationship with South African rappers can set the right tone, quickly followed up by him bïtching out when Burna Boy told him to keep the same energy when he sees him. From there, he can claim that MI only form Chairman till a real Chairman like Burna shows up. And in truth, he's just a greedy guy ready to shït on Nigerian lives in South Africa for his own pocket. Then link it to how his brothers like Jesse are still struggling etc, call out some fake posing on Instagram and take it from there. There's enough Nigerians pissed off about the Xenophobia situation for them to give Vector a listening ear.

Vector can even do the artwork of MI carrying sticks and stones with South Africans to create a great impact, cos that Viper artwork MI did was impactful as hell.

Heywhizzy:
same M that says he's wiling and able to splash 20m to float his label, money is out of it

Talk is cheap. Vector can easily counter this by asking why he didn't give it to Jesse Jagz for same purpose. Again tying back to wider point about MI living fake life.

EruditorII:
1. MI did not say everybody must be successful. He said atleast give them a platform to try. MI put Jesse and Iceprince on.

Another angle for Vector here. MI did not put them on. He was not in an exec position at Choc City when they got put on. Infact Vec can spin the story and claim as soon as MI was given an exec position at Choc City, he chased them away including his own blood brother.

EruditorII:
I am not getting personal. I am saying how Nigerians will view it. You can't attack something that can easily be refuted. Imagine someone attacking Psquare for not being as rich as they claim.

Remember when PSquare were posting mansion some years back claiming they own it and their landlord came for their head. If I'm beefing P Square then, I will so finesse my words, the whole Naija will think they are living fake life. A skillful rapper can turn any story around by picking at the grey areas.

That's how Remy Ma had people doing Mathematics on how much Nicki Minaj makes per album sale. People know Nicki Minaj is rich, but same time they like to laugh at the rich if anything seems not quite right.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/10/landlord-palaver-p-square-opens-up/amp/

Heywhizzy:
MI just recently posted a picture of a mansion and tagged it my home last week.. I don't think M is still renting, Vector stays at his Babe's place(allegedly) for God's sake

3 or 4 months ago, one tired looking house was posted as MIs home. Does not matter which is true so long as Vector can convince people. MI never claimed he bought or built the house. Maybe he went and rented after getting dragged on Instagram for the previous house.

EruditorII:
1. MI did not say everybody must be successful. He said atleast give them a platform to try. MI put Jesse and Iceprince on. If they don't have money today it is not on him. At a time, Ice prince was commanding the most money as a Nigerian artist.
2. Whether MI is struggling or not (which he is not) he is still the most successful rapper from Africa.
3. Having a house is not a sign of wealth. Houses are liabilities. MI has businesses, lounges, endorsements.

EruditorII:
I mean, this is based on the assumption that he does not have a house.

And Mi takes care of more people. He has bought people cars. He is known for his generosity. It is why he attacked Vector on that premise.

Stop getting personally attached. No need to carry MI matter for head. We talking angles here on how Vector can get at him. Vector can definitely get at him convincingly, whether true or false, he just needs to make it convincing

EruditorII:
3. Having a house is not a sign of wealth. Houses are liabilities. MI has businesses, lounges, endorsements.

Nah, he can definitely attack him on this point. House is not liability. If Vector owns his place, he can say "I built house where all my family live cos I take care of my people. . . while you are parking 2011 car in your Landlords garage just for Instagram" etc etc.

There are so many ways to finesse the picture even from a weaker position and steal the hearts of the street.

Heywhizzy:
M accused him of roasting in his B's BQ, how can he talk rent to MI.. In one of his numerous sub to M, he started with "So we talking money now", Vector knows best not to go the financial/materials route with M, he can go the reputation route, he has already talked about ICE and Khali Abdul in his own beef track, he can buttress on that.. Victoria Kimani has made herself available, I think M initial manager is no longer with him( go n source for insiders info from that dude)

Trust me, Vec can talk money to MI even if he is not as rich so long as he is creative enough to show MI is not as rich as he is flaunting. He doesn't have to compare, he just needs to show MI is living fake life and is not a chairman, only gets N500K per show, his people are struggling etc, then bring it back to a wider point about reputation. It would be something along the lines of what you get from me is real, what you see from him is fake, he does nothing for his family etc etc

Heywhizzy:
MI has a Bentley, G wagon.. MI is not struggling, he shouldn't go that route, other route is bam, I even suggest you delete your comment, you're a cheat

He can easily claim that's Choc City boss car and MI is living fake life, then point to the crib MI is renting. Besides what MI flaunted is 2013 and 2011 version of those cars. He can even say your own blood brother Jesse is struggling out here and you're a wicked man.

Heywhizzy:
Try ghostwrite for him, he needs it

He'll need serious personals to come back at MI not punchlines cos MI seriously injured him as a man, never mind a rapper.

He should start from MIs association with that South African rapper that every Nigerian hates. How MI punked out when Burna Boy threatened him. He can also punch serious holes in MI reputation as being successful eg MI is still renting one rundown crib. He can call MI out on his claim of lifting others out of poverty by showing Jesse Jagz is broke, Ice Prince is broke with his Ghanaian girl cheating on him. He can really puncture MIs claim to success but he will have to be creative with it eg at the height of MI success after MI2, MI went to buy second hand Benz. Truth be told MI is still somewhat struggling out here but Vector needs to paint the picture well. He needs to throw enough shït at the fan and let faeces fly everywhere.

Being more successful doesn't automatically translate to winning a battle if the other side can punch holes in your credibility eg Remy Ma vs Nicki Minaj.

EruditorII:
Rap is beyond "if I dey piss you off go wee wee"

What if Vector start stripping his belt?/ and a whipping is dealt/
from morning till the wee hours of night. . . till MI piss on himself?/

seankafor:
quit that weed bro..
Iwobi is currently fouani LG ambassador

Who be Fouani.LG and how.much do they pay. Mumu.

Kimbeast:
So it's all about the money and not even having a successful international career.

What is successful about International career that starts and ends with AFCON. These players sacrifice family and rest time for International football travel. It gast worth am for your status, pay packet, commercial earning power etc. Those who play for teams with chance of winning major International tournaments can talk about successful International career.

Scotland players recently confessed they will do anything to avoid International duty. Don't think a multimillionaire who should be resting or spending time with family will appreciate getting long haul flights upandan in their downtime to travel to Congo and Comorros Island for qualifiers.

Kimbeast:
What is the benefits of picking England over Nigeria if I may ask? Is he guaranteed a place in that England squad for the next 2,3 or 4 yrs?

England international alone can add £50k to your wage packet.

Even endorsement revenue, the wackest England player will earn more than Naija star player.

While Jesse Lingard is paid serious dolapo for Lynx adverts, Iwobi will be hustling for Peak or Loya milk ambassador gig. Abeg.

You people think playing for National team especially a crap National team like Nigeria is a honour?

Many footballers lose the love for International football after a couple of years, much less sacrificing your little rest time to be travelling in rickety planes and staying in shoddy hotels with Super Eagles, where you will be arguing over bonuses and wondering why you are playing with some 40 year old men who falsified their age, or wondering why you are playing with some crap players who paid egunje to make the squad. Any small injury and you lose your club place. Naija will not even have functioning MRI to scan you if you get injured on National duty. You cannot even enjoy the country you are playing for and cannot go anywhere unless surrounded by MOPOL with heavy weaponry.

I repeat, there is no benefit for a multimillionaire to sacrifice his sweat playing for Nigeria. Leave that to players still finding their way like Leon Balogun, Troost Ekong, Ola Aina and co. who can use Super Eagles appearances to showcase themselves and get better contracts.

If I am Abraham and co, it is better I rest during international week and be fresh to perform for my club where I feed my family than kill myself playing for Naija.

HOMOTOYOSI10:
We out

Congrats

3 points in the bag

Now comot Mount and bring on Kovacic

FBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chic2pimp:
DINAAAA ASHERRR SMITHHHHH BAYBEEEEE!

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Father Abraham had many goals
Many goals had Father Abraham

Antonio Conte sharp sharp hotel

nihilistjnr:
Was Gnabry good enough for West Brom? If he was why won't he play?

Ok he went back to Arsenal and Wenger aka Mr Youth and was still sold for peanuts.

Bayern still loaned him out twice...why didn't the other managers bench him?

I think you're downplaying the effect of personal development in the 4 years that have passed.

Pulis said the guy wasn't even able to get fit for U-21 with them. 4 years of training and knuckling down don happen since then. He is not who he was back then.

Pulis would say anything to justify nonsense. How come he tore down the Olympics in the same season he was at West Brom. He did not need 4 years development to boss Olympics and enter Germany team in the same year.

Arsenal sold him cos his contract was expiring and you generally get what you can for such players. Wenger had wanted to extend his contract but he refused.

This was simply a loan where the loaning club had other agendas, namely promoting their own player in Jonathan Leko.

nihilistjnr:
So Serge Gnabry didn't play 2 full seasons of Bundesliga football on LOAN before playing for Bayern?

What I told you back then has actually been vindicated.

You can't just jump from academy football to go and play for a big team...when you're not Messi

Look at Abraham when he tried it. He jumped from Academy to EPL football at Swansea and Lana immediately. The had to send him Championship on loan to learn work before he came back....and in my opinion the boy is still not ready sef...only say na condition make crayfish bend.

The fact that nobody expects us to finish in top 6, let alone top 4 with these youngsters Gaan emphasizes the point

That's not the point Sir.

The point is he was always good enough for West Brom but they benched him to give priority to one of their young wingers Jonathan Leko. This shows how loaning clubs don't really care about your player and loans can fail cos they have different priorities.

Few months later, same Gnabry was bossing the Olympics while Leko is now on loan at Charlton.

Roland17:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV53K98BHfM

I watched this last weekend during the IAAF. Patiently watch the entire video and share thoughts, I already have mine

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Raumdeuter, Afrodoc, SkimpleD, Nihilistjnr, Kimbeast, A40, Ibime, Airmark, Lana1, Patrickmuf, Eruditor, Sod09, spillo1, chic2pimp, popizaino, seankafor, bikeman, HewlettPackard, lordfalcao and anyone interested.

The standout for.me was how that no name.Polish guy dusted Alyson.Felix.from behind. It really.showed the difference between male and female.

Ibime:
Serge Gnabry just made his debut for Germany and has been tearing down Bundesliga.

I remember using him as an example to Spy360 of why players out on loan are not prioritised by the loaning club - this after Tony Pulis told us Gnabry is not good enough for West Brom and kept him on the bench all year. The same Serge Gnabry is good enough for Die Mannschaft.

I remember when I was complaining to niggas how managers are often only interested in developing their club players rather than loan players which made many loans to fail.

I used Serge Gnabry as an example, referencing Chelsea youth players also. Gnabry and Chelsea current young players are proving my point

If we had not sold Luiz, we would not have found Tomori. Right now some people would have been defending Luiz, pointing to Christensen and Zouma shakyness

donjazet:
Hmm you make a very valid point, we knew each others teams and people always commented and exchanged bants every game week here.

Every weekend, this thread was always active and bubbling.

It's quite ironic when thought of, the smaller the fpl teams were then, the merrier here was, the Bigger the group became, the smaller the participants here became.

Quite sad and unfortunate.

I warned her against it at the time.

By the time you log in the thread and see all strangers, you will just jump and pass

donjazet:
This thread is no longer as interesting as it used to be. It's now absolutely boring and lifeless. What's happened?

Mukina killed it by allowing the whole Nairaland join by advertising on.FP. That broke the bond of interrelationships.and banter. We started chatting with strangers

snrman:
she said she worshiped the devil for 990 years how old is she

She must be Milesandre