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popizaino:
No one trusted guardiola but after he did the unthinkable its became because of Messi and other superstars.

Nothing unthinkable about using Aragones Spanish midfield with Messi to win UCL and league.

Unthinkable is using Porto to do same with Benni McCarthy and co.

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hensben:
Rijkarard won ucl with Barca. Barca were top club with Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool before pep took over unlike Real Madrid who were been knocked out of ucl by Lyon for two/three consecutive season.

Don't bother argue with that guy. This is Madrid UCL record before Mourinho took over. 6 seasons in a row getting knocked out in 2nd round before Mourinho re-established them as a semi-final team.

popizaino:
Tell this to unlimited and ibime

You are irredeemably foolish.

I did not mention minor trebles with Man Utd and Porto in 2003.

Mourinho has 2 legitimate trebles - Porto 2004 and InterMilan 2010.

popizaino:
Is treble not when you lift the ucl with your domestic double again ?

Porto and Intermilan did that in 2004 and 2010.

Infact, if you're talking minor treble, Porto did same with UEFA Cup in 2003.

sleekdot:
Only 1 manager has won a sextuple - Guardiola
Only 1 manager has played 7 consecutive semi finals - Guardiola
[s]Only 1 manager has ever made 100points in the EPL - Guardiola[/s]
[s]Only 1 manager had over 105 EPL goals in a season - Guardiola
Only 1 manager has a goal difference of 79 in a season - Guardiola
Only 1 manager won 18 consecutive EPL games - Guardiola
Only 2 managers have won the EPL with 5 games to go - Guardiola[/s]

The cancelled is all local nonsense. You went to bring local achievements because Pep does not have real achievements. Everything I cancelled, Mourinho achieved in LaLiga, I did not mention it. Pep is a local manager.

Desperation even made you to go add Supercups and Club world cups to find sextuple achievement for Guardiola. Simple achievements Mourinho would have recorded had he stayed at Porto and Inter after winning trebles with them. The only manager to win trebles in 2 different countries.

Any non-local achievement you mentioned was achieved with Messi et al. Pep is nothing but a Phil Scolari, with no achievements of his own. Carryalong manager.

sleekdot:
Before Mourinho went away, he was able to witness a total Pep dominance of the same league he claimed superiority over

Mourinho reached the end of his days in disgrace, sacked at his last 3 jobs, Lost the dressing room at his last 3 jobs

Became a total joke the type of coach opponents are wishing he will stay on. Some fans are willing to pay to keep him at Man utd
The object of ridicule
He became the specialist in failure, he became the man who celebrated Europa cup the same cup he took shots at Benitez Chelsea over
He became the man Sevilla was using to get their first CL quarter appearance
He became the man clubs are throwing parties when he gets sacked

His last 3 yrs of top management he finished 24points, 19 points and was another 19points behind the leader before putting him out of his misery

Everything he abused people of, he became.

A yesterdays man

Nihilist who is the mod here to release me from spambot

Only 3 managers have won UCL with 2 different clubs - Mourinho, Ancelotti and Hitzfeld

Only three managers have won UCL without Messi and Ronaldo since they became World best duopoly 11 years ago - Mourinho, Heynckes and Di Matteo

Only two managers from outside the top 5 leagues have won UCL - Mourinho and Van Gaal

Only one manager has 4 European trophies across 3 different clubs - Mourinho

Only 1 manager has ever led Italian club to the treble - Mourinho

Only 1 manager has 2 trebles in 2 different leagues - Mourinho

Pep is a learner, no different to them Phil Scolari whose only major achievements are being carried along by the best players, with nothing to show outside of that.

homesteady:
Na wa!! Didn't you feel a little heat while typing this post? This post is enough to condemn you to hell fire.

Every dog has it's day, just like Arrigo Sachi, Van Gaal, Wenger etc had their day. Mourinho has reached the end of his day. When Pep day comes, if all he can point to is UCL victories with Messi, Xavi et al, then Mourinho has completely shïtted on him.

Just like Pochettino has been way hotter than Wenger these last 5 years, but if Poch does not achieve something substantial before his day comes, Wenger is totally shïtting on him.

Lana1:
Lukaku is not fat na. His body size is due to all those extra muscles. And unlike fat, u no fit shed muscles. I'm afraid that's how he's going to be

Who told you that? Muscles is easier to shed than fat.

Oasis007:
What United need till End of the Season is a caretaker Manager. No need to make immediate Appointment, cos Mou has ruined the Building to the Foundation Level.

Moreso, I don't understand why Board ain't fancy Zizou - he can be appointed on a temporary Basis; till of the Season and he performs, let him grab the Job.

He's still the last Manager to win UCL, his Experience is needed in the Campaign cos there is nothing for in the League again.

Joker. You think you can just give Zidane temporary contract. . . because he is civil servant begging for job abi?

You can't give Zidane anything less than 3 year contract at £15m per annum.

raumdeuter:
Ibime

Can we have an update on Mourinho vs Guardiola. Who is the better manager

Till Guardiola wins UCL without Messi and co, Mourinho has had a better career.

iheanyi40:
Finally now I can walk into the viewing center raising my shoulders and smiling

Canopy analyst spotted

patrickmuf:
Ibime and Raumdeuter, is the bet over two legs, as in who will qualify? Or is it just for the first leg?
You guys you iron out the details before we start hearing 'warapa' and all those names come Feb. 2019

On who qualifies

raumdeuter:
Remove Schalke and tell ibime to stake a bet

Schalke is horribly out of form

Oya make we bet the other two matches.

If the score na 1-1, we both keep our douche.

No need for Boardman, just shake my hand

raumdeuter:
When you already have a Schalke with 15 league point in 15 games battling relegation facing Man City thats having 44 points and near top of their table as one of the draws?

You think say na everyone dey enter bet without looking like you do?

You want take style run.

Dortmund (1st in Bundesliga) vs Spurs (3rd in EPL)
Bayern (Reigning champions) vs Liverpool (finished 3rd last season)

Isn't it obvious that the ties are an even match overall.

Are you scared to back Bundesliga perennial Champions against a team that hasn't lifted EPL in 28 years?

Or are you scared to back current Bundesliga leaders against a mere 3rd placed EPL team?

These should put you at 2-1 advantage even if you feel City vs Schalke is a mismatch.

Breeze done blow, fowl nyash dey open small small.

Raumdeuter, come and back your assertion that Bundesliga is better than EPL with money. We have 3 EPL vs Bundesliga ties here. Let's wager best of 3 for $100. Do you need a Boardman to formalise things? I don't want stories after.

lalaboi:
Error Prone? Are you Kidney me?

Bar that Error that led to an Iheanacho assist at leicester, man has been SOLID for liverpool so far!

Did you see Alisson schoolboy error for Lingard goal today?

Melvyn11:
And this proves what exactly? I wish i can share the video here for everyone to see. Modric was destroying Spain midfield like it was nothing.

Nonsense. Xavi 105 passes, Modric 35 passes. Xavi 4 key passes, Modric 2 key passes.

Just because Croatia bunkered down in their half and stayed in the game, and Modric was able to make a couple break out runs does not mean he wasn't getting sonned throughout the game.

It all depends on your expectations. If Bash Ali manage to go 12 rounds with Mayweather and manages to even win 3 rounds only, you will still tell us Bash Ali dominated Mayweather - according to your expectation.

Melvyn11:
Just go to YouTube and watch Euro2012 Spain vs Croatia and see how modric dominated the midfield of xavi,iniesta and busquet, it was amazing. Individually Modric is a superior player to xavi.

Modric made 35 passes that match, Xavi made 105. How do you dominate someone who made 3 times as many passes as you, and had twice your key passes. Clap for yourself.

Melvyn11:
Lol Xavi that was riding bench behind Van Bommel and Deco . if not for deco reoccuring injuries Xavi would probably had stayed a few more seasons at the bench. Stop being clueless xavi was great yes but saying modric is not up to par or even better is sheer delusion. Modric has more in his locker then Xavi ever had.

Modric failed as an Attacking midfielder and had Rafael Van Der Vaart drafted in to do his job. If Modric is so great, he should tell us why the mere absence of Ronaldo turned his team into Real Sociedad of LaLiga.

Don't gas yourself because Modric was lucky to be sneaking through common Denmark, Russia and England on penalties in World Cup before common Pogba put him in his place.

Xavi 7 goals and assists in Spain knockout matches including 3 assists in final.

2008 Euro final vs Germany 1-0, Xavi assist,
2012 Euro final vs Italy 4-0, 2 Xavi assists,
WC semi vs Germany 1-0, Xavi assist,
WC QF vs portugal 1-0 xavi assist.
Paraguay 2nd round, 1-0 xavi assist

This is how those tournaments were won, with Xavi the difference maker in all the difficult games as you see whilst controlling the possession machine.

Modric meanwhile was busy missing his kicks in penalty shootouts against minnows and being bailed out, before Pogba taught him a lesson in the final.

Possession control - Modric always averages 60 passes per game his whole career while Xavi is approaching 100 passes per game.

As a midfield controller, as a game decider, they have never been mates.

Don't ever open your vacuous brain to type this nonsense again. You no know ball.

Melvyn11:
There is serious overrating of Xavi individually on this forum. Both Xavi and Iniesta were very important parts of a machine-like system both in Barcelona & Spanish NT and that made them look like untouchable. That doesn't mean they were better individuals than Modric though. And the fact that both were not seen as world beaters until 2008 when Barcelona & Spain's domination began proves my point. I can somewhat understand Iniesta as he had some aspects to his game where he was better than Modric like better close control, better dribbling etc. but Modric is better than/or at least on par with Xavi in all aspects of the game.

Shutup, you don't know football. Modric was chased out of AM position at Spurs by Rafael Van Der Vaart.

Xavi provided 50% of the assists in knockout stages for Spain's Euro 2008, World Cup 2010 and Euro 2012 victory, unlike others who dribbled through with zero end product and only got lucky in the final. Xavi wasn't part of the machine, he was the machine. He controlled the possession machine and provided most of the key assists.

raumdeuter:
The 2 individual awards were Balon dor and WPOTY one major one minor

Henry did not win any

Owen won the minor one

Europa League winner is not better than losing UCL finalist.

raumdeuter:
Owen won Balon dor, Henry did not win anyone Not Balon dor , not WPOTY. They are in the same generation[

If Balon dor was Golf and WPOTY was Mercedes

Owen rode a Golf, Henry couldnt ride anything

Go and look how many awards Henry won and compare to Owen.

Balon D'or was a minor award when Owen won it. Henry is too big to be considered for such losers award. Stop trying to be smart by half. Owen did not even chart in 2001 WPOTY award when he won Balon D'or. Henry has two silver balls in WPOTY which is greater than Owen's losers award.

We won't even go into numerous other awards Henry won such as two European golden boots which carries more weight than Owen's losers award.

Just because Sevilla won Europa league does not make them greater than Juventus who lost in UCL final.

raumdeuter:
So Xavi is better than Modric despite Modric winning WPOTY

Okay who is better Owen and Henry. Both played at the same time. One won Balon Dor

Who is better Canavaro or Maldini?

Kaka can never be better than Garrincha despite Garrincha never winning WPOTY.

What Owen won is a minor award, then known as European footballer of the year, usually reserved as a losers award for those who stand little chance in the WPOTY award proper.

WPOTY award is usually not controversial unlike FIFPRO11 or EPOTY.

Couple of WPOTY awards that were considered slightly controversial were Zidane in 2000, some may even say Cannavaro in 2006 if you consider Ronaldinhos club form that season.

2018 award to Modric is the first time WPOTY became a laughing stock.

raumdeuter:
That is for people hung up on award, When these awards dont favor you, You come here moaning about polling booth awards

Even if Ronaldo was not given an award he will still be a greater player than Nistelrooy

With or without award, CL or World Cup, Ronaldo was greater than Henry and Nistelrooy. Your CL and WC criteria is even more porous than Award criteria.

Ronaldos awards were more than deserved, not fake award like Luka Modric who only won cos of Ronaldo rãpe case.

raumdeuter:
Ibime who is greater Modric or Xavi?

Award criteria can never place Modric over Xavi as Modric never placed above Xavi when they both played at the top.

If a rat decide to beat his chest after the cats have left, it will never make the rat greater than the cat.

raumdeuter:
Same way Nistelrooy/Henry are incomparable to Fenomeno despite the former 2 having a very prolific club career

With or without World Cup 2002, Ronaldo was rated above Nistelrooy and Henry.

Ronaldo was WPOTY in 1996 and 1997, way before 2002.

If his career ended with that injury in 1999, he would still be greater, and it has nothing to do with your World Cup and CL criteria.

airmark:
And Emenike over Weah.

Where is my gee Sunday Mba that scored winning goal in AFCON semi and final? He is surely better than Tony Yeboah.

raumdeuter:
Klose scored 3 vs Argentina 1 vs England, 1 vs Brazil Thats 5 goals already
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Scoring 1 goal in 7-1 hammering of Brazil or 4-1 hammering of England or 4-0 hammering of Argentina is not of import. Those are just carryalong goals when the team is sharing goals like Tradermoni.

The only goal of import Klose scored is in the match with Argentina in 2006.

Klose is the ultimate flattrack bully, often scoring 4 or 5 goals in group stage against them Saudi Arabia, Costa Rica, Cameroun etc,. then disappearing in the final stage when needed. He is the reason Germany always collapsed at semi-final stage.

raumdeuter:
What us Zlatan good at? The 2 high profile clubs he went to Juve and Barca he was underwhelming. Now to compare that to a player who dominated 2-3 world cups

I cant believe you are deceived by the fake Zlatan hype too

If we start listing Klose World Cup goals now, we will start seeing hattricks against Saudi Arabia etc.

The only two goals of import Klose scored in World Cup was against Argentina and maybe Belgium.

Meanwhile you will struggle to find many more potent strikers than Ibra for a decade in club football.

Just on eye test alone, anyone can see Ibra is not mates with Klose.

All Klose did was be the only decent striker in Germany for a decade. If Germany had managed to produce a no9 better than Carsten Wãnker in that period, Klose wouldn't even see shirt. If Ibra was German, Klose would take several seats behind him.

I'm cancelling my subscription to ApariSports magazine abeg.

How will one Gorimapari journalist just write that Klose is better than Zlatan. Hehn!

lalaboi:
Error Prone? Are you Kidney me?

Bar that Error that led to an Iheanacho assist at leicester, man has been SOLID for liverpool so far!

He's been decent, nowhere near his price though.

One would expect old De Gea level of form for his price, but man like Dubravka are the ones showing that level of form instead.

lalaboi:
Oooomo!!

Why didnt we fight to sign this Allison guy!! What a Keeper!

One save doesn't make a keeper.

He's been error-prone in England so far.

Both he and Kepa are overpriced.