softandmoist: This is not me whining or anything. Just something I noticed since landing here in Canada and going out and about. Many of our Nigerian brothers act all cold when you greet them then get warm when greeted by a white. Really. Like your sucking up will change your complexion? The friendly ones know better, I suppose. They give you pointers on how you can get settled in easily and integrate. One man snubbed me this morning when I greeted him twice at my daughter's school, but got all chatty with one woman who was white�. His daughter and mine are in the same class so I was wondering what the superiority complex was all about. Shior. What pained me most for him was that the woman didn't hear anything he was saying because even on the verge of swallowing his tongue to speak Canadian English, she wasn't just understanding. Kikikikiki. Ok, seriously now.
Please seniors, let's be nice to ourselves. Tenkiu.
I don't think this has to do with gender. I have noticed that Nigerians generally try to avoid other Nigerians where other nationalities are present. It may have to do with trust. Given all the negative stories about us abroad, some people are being overly cautious even to the point of snobbery.
Pataricatering: Keep quiet there ! Liar oshi! Islam permits you to beat your wife - you might not feel like hitting your wife but there are pleeeeeenty of men who love hitting their wives and Islam gives them the perfect reasons !
Islam does not permit you to beat your wife. The fact that many Muslim men do it does not make it Islamic
Lukgaf: Equality is a slick and catchy slogan. But what does equality actually mean? In mathematics if two variables are equal, one can be substituted for the other without changing the result in any way at all. If men and women are equal in this sense, then a woman can do anything a man can do and vice versa. You can substitute one for the other everywhere. Thus a woman can be a truck driver, a coal miner, a prison guard, or what have you. Similarly, a man can become Mr. Mom, replacing the mother in taking care of the children.
That such mathematical equality is absurd is manifest to anyone who knows the biological and psychological differences between men and women. Yet this is precisely the direction that the so called gender equality campaign has blindly taken. It aims at replacing the complementary relationship between men and women with a competitive one. The result can only be a social upheaval of unprecedented scale.[quote author=Lukgaf post=72596575]
The bolded shows that the writer really doesn't know what feminism is all about. It is never about gender rivalry. Rather it's about giving women the opportunity to make choices about how they live their lives, something the society readily affords men. It is about subjecting men to the same societal standards of morality as women. A man should not be praised for having multiple sex partners while a woman is considered a slut for the doing same.
I like how the OP has been taken to task on these positions by contributors to this thread, and I am very interested in seeing his responses to the queries that have been raised.
Faced the same prob. Your immigrant Visa is only one entry, so you can't reuse it. I asked a Canada Border Services officer and according to him, CBS has no prob letting you back in with your COPR. That however doesn't mean the airline/US officers will accept that. Your PR card is what they'll want to see. So, in summary, you may not be able to regain entry into Canada.
Thanks for your response
***Update***
I made the trip to US and returned to Canada with only my COPR using the Megabus service from Toronto to NYC. The journey took approximately 12 hrs.
On the first leg to the US, we disembarked with our luggages at the US border posts and boarded again after going through US customs.
On the return leg of the trip, the megabus driver asked to see my visa and I showed him my COPR, with which he allowed me to get on the bus. On getting to the Canada border posts, we came down and went through the canada customs/immigration and they allowed me enter after presenting my COPR and other landing documents.
So coming in to Canada without a PR card is possible if you come in through the land border with your COPR document.
When I landed, I gave a relatives's address to a customs officer as where I want my pr card to be sent. However he told me that they will only deliver the card to me so I have to make sure I will be there when the PR card arrives in 6 to 8 weeks.
I found this strange as I have read here many times that the PR can be collected on people's behalf.
Has anyone else experienced this?
Im here for short landing and I plan to return next year
You can get a full bedroom apartment(living room + bedroom + toilet & bath + kitchen) for about 580 to 620 cad per month (including utilities, except Power).. Metro card cost 85cad per month, gives you unlimited access to both bus and subway for the month. I dont know the exact cost for car insurance, I dont drive, but I do know it's about the lowest in Canada.
Thanks. Was there any reason you chose Montreal above other provinces?
einsteino: So I have been touring Montreal for a week now, more of wandering than touring actually. Been fun, it wasnt until that I got lost with no help in sight. my phone ran out of battery and left me without google maps, a price for taking too many photos I guess. So I think I should share the photos I took to make the over 2hrs I spent trying to find my way home count for something.
Nice. Hows the cost of living there? What's the typical rate for like a 1 bedroom apratment. Car insurance or Public transportation card
Faced the same prob. Your immigrant Visa is only one entry, so you can't reuse it. I asked a Canada Border Services officer and according to him, CBS has no prob letting you back in with your COPR. That however doesn't mean the airline/US officers will accept that. Your PR card is what they'll want to see. So, in summary, you may not be able to regain entry into Canada.
Thank you. Perhaps I can fly out and come in through the land border by Bus. Please landed seniors what is the weather like at this time of the year. Will I be needing thermal wears and all by now or will I be able to dress normal I plan to land later this month.
I intend to do a short landing soon. However, I plan to visit the US during my stay. I would like to know how to go about this given that my PR card won't be ready before I leave for the US.
vcole: @czaratwork, hang in there. It takes a new immigrant on the average 5years to fully settle into Canada according to statistics. So it's easier said than done but you would be past this stage sooner than you think.
In my opinion, it is important to properly research job prospects in your intended field as well as jobs you may be able to get on arrival even if it is in a lower role or a "survival job" that you feel you would be comfortable doing to earn an income prior to arriving in Canada. It keeps you realistic and focussed by the time you get here.
For regulated professions, it is a realistic plan to be willing to settle for any job on arrival if you need an income quickly and then map out a route to obtaining your license if you so desire or map out a route towards an alternative career.
In my case, I already decided to go back to school prior to arrival to earn a qualification or two in an area that I have an interest in for the long term as well as one that would make me more employable. Obtaining my license is a long windy road that I would fit into the pipeline at some point along the way as it is not a top priority for me. I did job hunt for a few months and got a job working with special needs kids at a job fair but passed up on it for a govt sponsored employability skills training program. Most jobs readily accessible to foreign professionals with a health care background are nursing aides, dietary aides, care aides, community support workers, etc. I do not think I am well suited to those roles and did not want to get stuck in a job I didn't like for a while and so I enrolled in school and started this winter when my baby turned 6 months. So far, so good.
So if a survival job isn't something you feel you can handle, getting an additional qualification may be a good plan. Save up some funds for that purpose if you can. You could also consider applying for student loans from the government.
I find that Indian immigrants are a lot more realistic in their expectations as regards migration. They hit the ground ready to go and are willing to work at any job, get into school and work hard. It won't hurt for us to take a page outta their book.
For every success story of someone getting a job in their field soon after landing, there are several others slugging it out at Tim Hortons or Walmart. In the end, it will still turn out as a success story for both parties, just different timelines.
Thanks vcole for this. What employability program were you enrolled in?
Bethely: Please I am in the education field (University Lecturer in mechanical engineering) with 5 years experience. Pls which province or location will I get a suitable job. Even if its research assistant.
I have my masters and will start my PhD when I settle in Canada. My husband has BSc. and he is self employed. He has been in business for Six years. Please I want to start application process as soon as possible.
Why not apply for a PhD directly. By emailing professors in your field of research. Not all will respond But thats a surer way of getting into the program
The provinces or the instituitions? If provinces, then Ontario, BC and Quebec would definitely have the largest numbers of institutions.
It is interesting that the two guys I know that went the academic line both got a temp teaching job in Ontario. One finally got a perm position in the same province while the other got a perm position in BC.
How are lecturing jobs in Canada? Are they well remunerated?
What if the said spouse is not in the military and doesnt work for government? How long would it take to process the visa. Thats if one applies after COPR and before landing
I left Naija just before Christmas but i'm still on the road. I never land in Canny. Only issue was when I landed Yankee and they took me to one corner and started drilling me. You know Trump has told them to raise alarm when it's a Naija landing especially if you're travelling alone and it was now one way ticket to make matters worse. It was a serious thing o but my COPR and ticket to Canny cleared all doubts.
In the meantime, I've been applying online. I used freetone to get a Canadian number and I've had a few phone interviews.
ravenmortal: I use IPNX for Internet. Fibre optic, direct to my house. I get 100GB for N15 per month. I have never run out of data and I do not buffer.
You are free to buy a Chinese version, if you prefer. This is an option for the discerning buyer. There is a difference between Mercedes and Great Wall or Kia.
Thanks for the calls!
How did you get Fibre optic cable connected to your house?
why lieth thee ye moslem? Your propheth Mohammad preached violence
Tabari 9: 69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad , prophet of Islam . Ibn Ishaq : 327 – “Allah said , ‘ A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives . A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land . Muhammad , you craved the desires of this world , its goods and the ransom captives would bring . But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion .’” Ibn Ishaq : 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’ s head while screaming ‘ Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad , who seems to approve . Ibn Ishaq : 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad ’ s instructions to his men prior to a military raid . The Quran : Quran (2 : 191-193 ) – “ And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out , for persecution [of Muslims ] is worse than slaughter [of non -believers ]… but if desist , then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more , and religion is for Allah .” There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war , even if the historical context was not . However , there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse . The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of “persecution ” ( a qualification that is ambiguous at best) . The second is that fighting may persist until “religion is for Allah. ” The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring. Quran (2 : 244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah , and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things .” Quran (2 : 216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you , and ye dislike it . But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you , and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not .” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense , since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time . From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse. Quran (3 : 56) – “As to those who reject faith , I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” Quran (3 : 151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah , for which He had sent no authority” . This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians , since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘ joining companions to Allah ’). Quran (4 : 74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah , be he slain or be he victorious , on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians , led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle , as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today ’ s suicide bombers . Quran (4 : 76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…” Quran (4 : 89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do , and thus be on the same footing (as they) : But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden ) . But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks . ” Quran (4 : 95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home ) and receive no hurt , and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home ) . Unto all ( in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home ) by a special reward, - ” This passage criticizes “peaceful ” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’ s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad ” doesn ’ t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage , but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual , since the physically disabled are given exemption. ( The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’ s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse) . Quran (4 : 104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy ; if you suffer pain , then surely they ( too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self -defense? Quran (5 : 33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this , that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world , and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement ” Quran (8 : 12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8 : 15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle , turn not your backs to them. (16) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company , he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah , and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey ’ s end. ” Quran (8 : 39) – “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah ” From the historical context we know that the “persecution ” spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj . Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group , since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction . The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion , since it was Muhammad ’ s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force ( which he later did ). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah .” According to Ibn Ishaq (324) , Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “ Allah must have no rivals.” Quran (8 : 57) – “If thou comest on them in the war , deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.” Quran (8 : 59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip ( Allah ’ s Purpose ). Lo! they cannot escape . Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed ) force and of horses tethered , that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.” Quran (8 : 65) – “O Prophet , exhort the believers to fight …” Quran (9 : 5) – “ So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush , then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate , leave their way free to them. ” According to this verse , the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam . Prayer (salat ) and the poor tax ( zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars . Quran (9 : 14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…” Quran (9 : 20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’ s way are of much greater worth in Allah’ s sight . These are they who are triumphant .” The “striving ” spoken of here is Jihad . Quran (9 : 29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day , nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger
Of course you quote these verses out of context because you want to mislead. These verse apply during wars and not in time of peace. Shariah law acknowledges the rights of non-muslims to such an extent that after the death of the prophet (SAW). A non muslim man even chraged the Caliph to court and won against him. So these verse were revealed in a particcular context and not to be applied everywhere
The bible has far worse verses and was major cause of all the European wars during the middle ages when people fighting for christianity also terrorised Europe. Talk of the crusades and inquisitions. Probably more have been killed from that than from Terrorism from the idiots who claim to be fighting for Islam
why lieth thee ye moslem? Your propheth Mohammad preached violence
Tabari 9: 69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad , prophet of Islam . Ibn Ishaq : 327 – “Allah said , ‘ A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives . A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land . Muhammad , you craved the desires of this world , its goods and the ransom captives would bring . But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion .’” Ibn Ishaq : 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’ s head while screaming ‘ Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad , who seems to approve . Ibn Ishaq : 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad ’ s instructions to his men prior to a military raid . The Quran : Quran (2 : 191-193 ) – “ And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out , for persecution [of Muslims ] is worse than slaughter [of non -believers ]… but if desist , then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more , and religion is for Allah .” There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war , even if the historical context was not . However , there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse . The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of “persecution ” ( a qualification that is ambiguous at best) . The second is that fighting may persist until “religion is for Allah. ” The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring. Quran (2 : 244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah , and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things .” Quran (2 : 216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you , and ye dislike it . But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you , and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not .” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense , since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time . From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse. Quran (3 : 56) – “As to those who reject faith , I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” Quran (3 : 151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah , for which He had sent no authority” . This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians , since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘ joining companions to Allah ’). Quran (4 : 74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah , be he slain or be he victorious , on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians , led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle , as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today ’ s suicide bombers . Quran (4 : 76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…” Quran (4 : 89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do , and thus be on the same footing (as they) : But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden ) . But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks . ” Quran (4 : 95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home ) and receive no hurt , and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home ) . Unto all ( in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home ) by a special reward, - ” This passage criticizes “peaceful ” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’ s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad ” doesn ’ t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage , but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual , since the physically disabled are given exemption. ( The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’ s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse) . Quran (4 : 104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy ; if you suffer pain , then surely they ( too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self -defense? Quran (5 : 33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this , that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world , and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement ” Quran (8 : 12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8 : 15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle , turn not your backs to them. (16) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company , he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah , and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey ’ s end. ” Quran (8 : 39) – “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah ” From the historical context we know that the “persecution ” spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj . Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group , since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction . The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion , since it was Muhammad ’ s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force ( which he later did ). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah .” According to Ibn Ishaq (324) , Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “ Allah must have no rivals.” Quran (8 : 57) – “If thou comest on them in the war , deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.” Quran (8 : 59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip ( Allah ’ s Purpose ). Lo! they cannot escape . Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed ) force and of horses tethered , that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.” Quran (8 : 65) – “O Prophet , exhort the believers to fight …” Quran (9 : 5) – “ So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush , then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate , leave their way free to them. ” According to this verse , the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam . Prayer (salat ) and the poor tax ( zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars . Quran (9 : 14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…” Quran (9 : 20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’ s way are of much greater worth in Allah’ s sight . These are they who are triumphant .” The “striving ” spoken of here is Jihad . Quran (9 : 29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day , nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger
Off course you quote these verses out of context because you want to mislead. These verse apply during wars and not in time of peace. Shariah law acknowledges the rights of non-muslims to such an extent that after the death of the prophet (SAW). A non muslim man even chraged the Caliph to court and won against him. So these verse were revealed in a particcular context and not to be applied everywhere
The bible has far worse verses and was major cause of all the European wars during the middle ages when people fighting for christianity also terrorised Europe. Talk of the crusades and inquisitions. Probably more have been killed from that than from Terrorism from the idiots who claim to be fighting for Islam
A week ago Muslim youths numbering about 200 rose from their Friday service to attack a church without provocation, destroying properties worth millions and threatening human lives. U mean to tell me that those youths were deranged and decided to attack the church after the Imam fed them with a good dose of preaching and teachings about peace?
Again those youths were not acting according Islam. I dont know what their issue is but they are certainly not practicing Islam. Islam does not say destroy or kill Christians. For God's sake Muslims are allowed to marry Christians, How can they also be commanded to kill the same ppl they are allowed to marry.
The more u keep conflating Islam and the criminal actions of terrorist the harder it will be to find lasting solutions to these problems
Islam preaches Peace. Every expert who has studied the terror attacks always remark that the terrorists are either deranged or know nothing about Islam in the first place. From the Boston bombings to the Paris attacks (even the one with the bus). This is not Islam and no good Muslim would do any of these things.
Some of these terrorists have psychological issues which the media ignores just to stereotype Islam and Muslims. Most of these terrorists are just eager and excited religious newbies with no knowledge of Islam and therefore cannot act in the name of Islam.
Here is a link to a video to further prove these contentions
Even if this argument is too hard for you grasp, think of how these people have slaughtered muslims. From Turkey to Bangladesh and even Medina which is the second holiest site in Islam. This is enough proof to show that the terrorists have no religion and are nothing but bloodthirsty nitwits. There were many Muslims too in the last Paris attacks.
If Islam truly preached murdering innocent people as these terrorists claim. Then with 1.7 billion Muslims in the world, There should no one left on this planet.
We all should be up against them instead of spreading hate and misinformation which will only make the terrorists' goals more achievable.