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what OP needs right now is money physically. everyone should assit.

LisaAnneMia:
It's still the grace gospel that even when Adam and Eve sinned, God still clothed them.
It's the grace gospel that before the law was given, Joseph knew that adultery was a sin and fled from that lady cos it is recorded there that the Lord was with Him
It's the grace gospel that even before the law was given, Abraham was referred to as a friend of God. That Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness.
It's the grace gospel that after God brought the Israelites from Egypt, even after they complained and complained (complaining is sin), God showed them His goodness. The more they complained, the more He provided. But when the law was given, the very first commandment that they must have no other God, they broke it. They created a golden calf.
After the law was given, whenever they complained they died. The complain they did before the law that brought God's goodness, brought death this time around. Why? Cos before the law, God blessed them based on His goodness not theirs.

It's still this gospel of grace that when God commanded the children of Israel to kill an animal and put the blood on their doorposts, that none of the first born sons died. Were they perfect? No! Were they blameless? No! Then why? Cos God is good.

Now let's go to the new testament. It's still this same gospel of grace that when Jesus wanted to heal those who came to Him, did He say "all who didn't shout at their wives, line up here", "all who obeyed all the commandments, line here, I'll answer you guys first", "all who is without sin, I'll answer you guys too, the rest, please keep all my commandments then I'll heal you"? No! The woman with the issue of blood broke the law! She was unclean! According to the law, she wasn't supposed to be out there! But she heard the goodness of Jesus and her faith grew to receive her healing! Was she good? No! She broke the law! What now happened? She depended on the goodness of Jesus!

Let's fast forward to Luke. It's still the same grace that when the rich ruler came to Jesus and boasted in his law keeping that Jesus said "one thing you lack". On the other hand, the short tax collector, in the next chapter, Jesus went to his house. Now did Jesus say "you have been a very bad boy! Do this and do that before you enter my kingdom"? No! Jesus gave him no law and the guy gave almost all he had before Jesus left.

And lastly! The thief at the cross! It's still this same grace gospel that Jesus didn't say "before I remember u in my kingdom, do this and say that or confess all your sins before you die, then I will remember you"! No! And it's this gospel of grace that Peter denied Jesus three times!!! After Jesus said "whoever denies Me before men, I'll deny him before My Father"...and yet, when Jesus rose from the dead, He said "go tell My disciples and Peter"... purposely called out Peter's name. Shouldn't Peter be burning in hell since he denied Jesus? No!

What am I saying in essence? True repentance comes after seeing the goodness of God in your life. When Jesus told Peter to cast his net into the sea and Peter caught so many fish, he said "depart from me I'm a sinful man". Which one came first? Jesus' goodness or Peter's repentance? In all the miracles Jesus did, which one came first? Jesus goodness or their repentance? Do I support sin? No! Am I encouraging sin? No! I'm only saying let the Lord Himself right His laws in people's hearts. The preaching on the Commandments hasn't helped the Christian world till now. Let the grace of God teach people what to do. You can't know Jesus mind. Peter should be in hell when he denied Jesus.

"Humans have a part to play" has caused so many heart aches with people wondering if God is pleased with them. When you have a relationship with Jesus, He'll prompt you through His Spirit in you to do this and do that, or to say this and to say that. DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOUR DOING! FOCUS ON WHAT JESUS DID AT THE CROSS FOR YOU, AND YOUR DOING WILL FLOW EFFORTLESSLY!

Thanks my dear Sis.
These is exactly the problem we have with Christianity of today.
mixing the old with the new.
most Christians don't even study there bible.
From Genesis to Revelation the bible talks about one Person, every other thing leads to Him.the bible is His biography simple.
any Christian that cannot see Christ and His Gospel of Grace in ALL the books of the bible has a problem.
most of them don't even understand the full meaning of the Law,how then can they comprehend the Gospel of Grace.
most don't know the real meaning of Love.talkless of them understanding that real Love is a Person!! lol.
I pray that God should help us all.the confusion is very embarrassing.

Kobojunkie:
Interestingly, by your move above, you indeed bring those you are against into the very Kingdom of God.

Jesus told a parable about the Kingdom of God there but by your assertion there, you suggest that Homosexuals are a part of the world of men but also as part of the Kingdom of God.

dude pls quoting me.

Matt13:24Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven[n]is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed[o]weeds among the wheat, and left.26And when the [p]wheat sprouted and produced grain, then the weeds alsobecame evident. 27And the slaves of the landowner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? [q]How then does it have weeds?’ 28And he said to them, ‘[r]An enemy has donethis!’ The slaves *said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?’29But he *said, ‘No; while you are gathering up the weeds, you may uprootthe wheat with them. 30Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and at the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”
Gay is a devilish SEED sowed in the life of both the born and unborn.
the above verse said it all.

Thattallgirl:
Lol it's fine. I get your point. I thank God you believe that our righteousness is only by faith and faith in Jesus Christ.

yeah its all about faith and His Grace nothing more.and that's the Gospel.
the laws (the sacrifices in the old testament didn't save anyone)
our problem in these generation is that we don't understand the principal of Grace and Law.
as a Christian we must choose one.

Genuine given comes out of love simple.. you can't truely give if you lack love.

Genuine given comes out of love simple.. you can't truely give if you lack love.

Thattallgirl:
From Exodus 20, it is written that they're to make sacrifices for any sin or trespass. You believe that?

Hebrew10:1-18
Christ’s Sacrifice Once for All

1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.2Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 4It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

5Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:

“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,

but a body you prepared for me;

6with burnt offerings and sin offerings

you were not pleased.

7Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—

I have come to do your will, my God.’ ” a

8First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. 14For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

15The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:

16“This is the covenant I will make with them

after that time, says the Lord.

I will put my laws in their hearts,

and I will write them on their minds.” b

17Then he adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts

I will remember no more.” c

18And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.

all the sacrifice performed in the OT was done accordance to the Law.

but before the Law there was sin
and God over look it then.
Romans5:13.
for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not counted against anyone when there is no law

Romans3:25
God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood--to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished--

I can break it down in my own understanding but I presume you get the pic by now.

because its all God.
he has never ask for mans opinion in His original purpose.
Gen1:1 and John1:1 said it all.
it was Him that created the heaven's and the earth. it wasn't Him and man that did the creation in the beginning but Him alone.
He's fully inchargre .
lol my bad .the above scriptures will aid you.
cheers

RepoMan007:
The price was paid long ago and Jesus even prayed to resist temptation of escaping it.

lol dude u are wrong.
he never wanted to escape anything because that was the sole reason He even became flash @first.
it has to do with two things.
1.missing the presence and relationship with the Father,which had never happened.
2.Time
is it His proposed time to drink the cup?

Oluolad86:
Congratulations, I use the baby as a point of contact for those who are looking for the fruits of the womb, come next year, you shall celebrate your twins and triplets. Just believe.


I need drugs that can reduce swollen legs back to normal.

Say a word of prayers to me too that God the perfect healer should heal me wholeheartedly and send helpers to me, thanks.

have u tried massage with warm water morning and evening?
also the patient might need morning walk Daly.

Amen

Kobojunkie:
Interesting! So when Jesus Christ said to teach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God to the World, He, Jesus Christ, meant it was only for those who you deem "Christians" by your personal standard?

I am not asking you of the Bible but of your claim/belief which seems different from the claim/belief you posted just two years ago.

dude you aren't a Christian and not ready to be one.
so let it pass.

Kobojunkie:
What Law? The Law that from the beginning belongs to the Kingdom of Israel and the people of the Blood of Jacob?
Or the Law, Jesus Christ, the New Covenant, that belongs to the Kingdom of God and each person who believes in Jesus Christ?

dude you aren't a Christian and am not sent to you,sorry.
most of my post are meant for Christians am not an evangelist,if you can't comprehend the concerts of Grace you cant get it.
dude de coco is that the bible speaks only about one person and one message which is Jesus Christ and His Gospel.
any other talk outside that is out of place.period.

Kobojunkie:
https://www.nairaland.com/6456638/not-under-laws-expected-obey/1#99855965

dude there's no difference in my post.
the gospel of God is the gospel of Grace and nothing more.the law has to go for Grace to be embraced fully.

Kobojunkie:
Because I found one of your recent posts and wondered how different it seems from this post of yours from about 2 years ago.

Was this write-up originally yours? If yes, then What changed?

what's different in the post

OpenYourEyes1:
I guess you mean my "I" hasn't been crucified yet, right?

you tell me.

Kobojunkie:
But at the very beginning of Chapter 5, Paul mentions that you are no longer slaves but set free. Why then do you assume a fall from grace?
The Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven divided into two halves? Where? How?












I am curious to know if more than 2 years later, you still hold to this interpretation you have here of what you believe Paul wrote of in the book of Galatians.

dude y d curiosity

OpenYourEyes1:
Look my brothers & sisters, GOD told me over 6 months ago that HE has given you over to me to guide. HE told me I need to experience what THEY(Heavenly beings) experience and how hardened humans have become against their CREATOR. I wanted to to share this in the past but was concerned people will misinterpret as pride. Sometimes I just say the visions/revelations when GOD "forces" me or moves me strongly.

We need to keep watch all the time, do what pleases GOD, preach the gospel all the time, do the will of GOD, tell people to repent from their wickedness against their merciful CREATOR.
Once you have been baptized with the HOLY SPIRIT and know the truth, you have huge responsibilities to perform. A sleeping world is in the hands of satan but GOD expects us to use the Light HE has given us to guide the world and lead people to repentance and JESUS CHRIST. The hardened ones who after knowing the truth but still choose the evil way will be destroyed and earth will be recreated.


We need more saints to watch and do the will of GOD. I have lots of responsibilities I need to focus my attention more to. I notice that whenever I focus my attention more to this responsibilities things start to go bad where I reduce my attention. I hope more believers will help in watching, judging right, taking the world issues you have concerned about(and have judged it) to GOD. HE always listens to the prayers of HIS servants.

your "I" has to be crucified first.
Gal2:20

FreeSpirited:
Haba...why una like to dey twist Bible like this? Something said outside the city gate, u quickly infer it means T-junction. Lol Pastors are guilty of this act of adding to the context of biblical meaning

dude am done here

FreeSpirited:
Was is mentioned in the Bible that he was crucified at the Tjunction? which verse Sir

Hebrew 13:12
New International Version
And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood.

Hebrews13:12
New International Version
And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood.

FreeSpirited:
interesting. Though sacrifices in Old testament arent majorly linked with Tjunction

lol
dude pls don't try to change d goal post..
The highest and greatest sacrifice done was perform at a Tjunction outside Jerusalem.
the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ.

FreeSpirited:
What's the relevance of the scripture quoted to sacrifice being placed on T-junction? I can't seem to see it despite rereading it umpteenth times

Ezekiel21:21 For the king of Babylon will stop at the fork in the road, at the junction of the two roads, to seek an omen: He will cast lots with arrows, he will consult his idols, he will examine the liver.
sorry the second verse I quoted was wrong. in Jer6:16 God told Jeremiah to to the crossroad and ask for the ancient path and also he should ask for the good way.that he will find rest with his soul.
Jeremiah was God rep.to the people of Israel.He telling the Israeli through Jeremiah to go to the crossroad /Tjunction and ask(Pray) for the ancient path because there path from the Tjunction have been conquered spiritual. that if they want peace and rest they have to reclaim the spiritual gates to there cities by the Tjunction.
in Ezekiel 21:21 the king of Babylon went to the Tjunction to Jerusalem there he performed divination,remember there's no divination without sacrifice. he did that at the Tjunction .he later conquered Jerusalem.

The Law was given by God in full knowledge that it will be broken. so that Grace by Christ will be accepted and appreciated.

Jer6:16
This is what the LORD says: "Stand at the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls. But you said, 'We will not walk in it.'

Ezekiel21:21 For the king of Babylon will stop at the fork in the road, at the junction of the two roads, to seek an omen: He will cast lots with arrows, he will consult his idols, he will examine the liver.

there are spiritual gates in every T junction that leads to every street,road,estate or community in that particular T junction.those spiritual gates are guarded by different spirits(either by God or the devil)
to conquer any city or community you must first of all take charge of the gate.

I.E. these earth response only to sacrifice. the highest bidder takes charge of the gates.

All spiritual things and matters is Christ.

MightySparrow:
Bump?

yeah

jiggaz:
Thank you my bro.

same here
don't ever be discourage because I went through all the commit on the thread these morning.
pple need to know the truth.
salvation is a done deal.no true Christian is going to hell.
pple(Christians) needs to think out of the box .that's from there normal church dortrines.
for we don't preach ABOUT Christ, or His messages in the scripture. but we preach Christ not about him,but himself.
we express a Man to others not stories we heard about Him ,but the Man we have experience in life.

Nice work Op.

Leviticus6:13 Leviticus 6:13 [13]Fire shall be kept burning continually on the altar; it is not to go out.

sapphiere:
He understands every language and text.

am not talking about Him per se but also the viewers.