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Romans7:18..New International Version
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.
The verse is self explanatory.
HOW CAN HE DO/ACT BY THE WILL OF THE FLESH WHEN HE HAVE BEEN WHOLLY CRUCIFIED?
All His good/bad ACTS by the flesh results to death so what's the point WILLING GOOD DEEDS IN THE FLESH?
For instance you "BLOODOFTHELAMB" is OP surname.the OP didn't chose that name,he was born into the family of BLOODOFTHELAMB ,so OP name is BLOODOFTHELAMB,which he didn't chose,if OP decide to be a priest,pastor,doctor,governor,yahoo boy,or a president today he's still a BLOODOFTHELAMB.
For those GOOD THINGS Paul talked about are from the fresh.he can't do them anymore becaus he's dead to them.even if the flesh raises something GOOD,since he's above them and lives and obeys a new Spirit.hes handicap to there wills in his life.

bloodofthelamb:
Solite, Jiggaz, AlexRi, Ichuka, Janeyinspires/ MuttleyLaff, ScienceWatch, Johnw47 and all who has something edifying to say.

Let's reason together. May the Holy Spirit convict and convince us of the truth, that is the absolute mind of the Father in Jesus name. Amen!

Jus saw these today will respond by His Grace later

oladahunsi455:
Blessed article, @ the OP.

Bless Our Lord Jesus Bro.
Some believers need to know the truth.that it's all about Christ and Him alone.

Maamin:
This will completely contradict these verses from the bible. Ecc 12:7 ,9:10

Because the Bible compares death to sleep more than fifty times. After death we are asleep, we are unconscious; we are not aware of the passing of time or of what is going on around us. That is what death is like as well. The Bible says, "for the living know that they will die; but the dead know nothing… their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished" (Ecclesiastes 9:5, NKJV, see also Psalm 146:4; 115:17).

It makes perfect sense that after Lazarus was raised from the dead, he doesn’t share what he saw or experienced. He didn’t have anything to tell, except that once he was dead, and now he is alive! He didn’t experience hell or heaven. In other words the soul or spirits of the offspring of the falling angels can't live on to torment people rather the spirit(breath of life in this case) returns to God who gave it while the body return to the dust where it was formed from until Judgement when the body will be reunited with the Spirit (breath of life) to become a living soul again. "And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh..." Gen 6:3

So Bro what happen to there "spirit"
Demons are spirit remember?spirits don't die.

Maamin:
Their spirits can't live on as demons because at death, all FLESH returns to the Dust and the SPIRITS returns to God who gave it.

Ecc 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

I don't agree with the red lettered words but that is a topic for another day.

Was it God that created them?they are wanderers with no definite/primary source.
Matt12:3“When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation

Life itself is a school,whatsoever we learn or is been wrought in us is proportional to our divine purpose here on earth.

Maamin:
The beings created by the union of the sons of God and daughters of men are no other than the Nephilims (Giants). This Giants were wiped out in the great flood. However, we can not conclude that their disembodied spirits/souls lives on to possess and afflict people as demons on earth..it will rule out the purpose of God sending the flood in.the first place was for nothing.

The reason God wiped them away is because He didn't create them.Genesis6 said THEY WHERE FLESH with man.the Spirit of God cannot repair/amend anything that's FLESH.hence,the only prescription to anything that's FLESH IS DEATH.so the flood had to come then and Christ came later and show us the true meaning of Gods prescription on the cross.(we can't improve or upgrade the flesh)
So the spirits of the giants and there offsprings are the demons.

Maamin:
And these new beings that were created are the Nephilims (giants) and they were wiped away in Noah’s flood.

Yes and there spirits are the demons we have today

Keep it up bro
The Lord is your Strenght

Matt16:17..New American Standard Bible
And Jesus said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not "REVEAL"this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.
To know Christ,we need divine REVELATION from God through His Grace.its never by FLESH or BLOOD(works)

Alwaystrue:
Exactly, and that is why we are told to confess our sins to Him and He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. And the way we know we sin is by the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The Holy spirit works with the word of God in us confirmed by the bible.
So it shows we need the Saviour to help us meaning the need for Jesus is continuous.
We should ensure we allow the spirit win over the flesh and yield our members to righteousness rather than become complacent and allow the flesh rule us while claiming we are walking right.
Take you time to explain. Thanks.

Alwaystrue:
Exactly, and that is why we are told to confess our sins to Him and He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. And the way we know we sin is by the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The Holy spirit works with the word of God in us confirmed by the bible.
So it shows we need the Saviour to help us meaning the need for Jesus is continuous.
We should ensure we allow the spirit win over the flesh and yield our members to righteousness rather than become complacent and allow the flesh rule us while claiming we are walking right.
Take you time to explain. Thanks.

Alwaystrue:
Exactly, and that is why we are told to confess our sins to Him and He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. And the way we know we sin is by the conviction of the Holy Spirit. The Holy spirit works with the word of God in us confirmed by the bible.
So it shows we need the Saviour to help us meaning the need for Jesus is continuous.
We should ensure we allow the spirit win over the flesh and yield our members to righteousness rather than become complacent and allow the flesh rule us while claiming we are walking right.
Take you time to explain. Thanks.

As long as we are still in these humanly foam it's almost impossible not to sin.
Hence the bible said if we do sin,that we have an advocate already to deal with the sin.
1john2:1...New American Standard Bible
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous;

Janeyinspires:
The law now written in our hearts is the spirit of Jesus now living inside of us, to help us live out the law in our lives.That's why Jesus came of course: To fulfill the law on our behalf.

True!
The more we depend on His indwelling Spitit in us,the less we struggle in our dairly living

Maamin:
Who then created this lower spirits? Because I believe all spirit beings were God's creation. The Devils/Falling angels/Demons can manipulate and cause disruption they can live inside a host as well.

Angels(fallen or not)don't live inside a host instead the can take the form of any being.in Genesis it took the form of a serpent,in Genesis6:1-6 they took the form of man,hence marring the daughters of men.
But demons are different they live in a host.
2.Genesis6:1-3 says..1Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose. 3Then the LORD said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because HE ALSO IS FLESH!
Man ALSO BECAME FLESH.meaning something or another being was created by the union of fallen angels and the daughters of men THAT BECAME FLESH WITH MEN,the union created a new being apart from angels and man.

Maamin:
The last sentence of your comments, made it clear who the word "SPIRIT" could be referring to in Act 23:8-9 since demons are also spirits.

Demons are in fact falling Angels, but because they have been cast away and reserved for eternal bound of chain and darkness from the presence of God, they are completely malevolent and wicked spirits.

The Bible teaches that the Creator himself is a Spirit and that his first creations were spirits. (John 4:24; Hebrews 1:13, 14) Further, the Bible mentions wicked spirits, sometimes referring to them as demons. (1 Corinthians 10:20, 21; James 2:19) But it does not teach that God created demons. Neither angels sleeping with daughters of men can result to creation of demons since they are immortal spirit beings too. Who, then, are they, and how did they come to exist?

When God created spirit creatures, he made them free moral agents, able to choose for themselves whether to do good or bad. Sadly, after the creation of humankind, an undisclosed number of angels chose to do bad by rebelling against God.

The first and most infamous spirit to rebel became Satan. “He did not stand fast in the truth,” said Jesus Christ. (John 8:44) What moved Satan to turn against God? He began to covet the worship that belongs exclusively to the Creator, and then he acted on that desire by setting himself up as a rival god. In this way he made himself “Satan,” a word that means “resister.” Centuries later, prior to the Flood of Noah’s day, other angels joined Satan, forsaking their heavenly position to materialize in human form and dwell on earth. (Genesis 6:1-4; James 1:13-15) When the Flood occurred, the materialized “angels that sinned” apparently returned to the spirit realm. But trust, they no longer deserve to be in God's presence just like Satan they were cast away(2 Peter 2:4; Genesis 7:17-24) In time, they came to be called demons/devils.​ read Deuteronomy 32:17; Mark 1:34.

It seems you aren't clear about the two above verses in ACTS.the Jewish knew there are ANGELS(Fallen or not) and another kind of SPIRITS apart from the formal.
Demon Spirits are created in Genesis6:1-6(maybe also during the pre-Adamic period.

solite3:
fallen Angels are actually demons! even lucifer is a demon.

Can you back it up with scriptures?
Prince of the air are fallen angels,principalities in high places are fallen angels too.
They don't dwell in human.
Only lower spirits called demon/evil spirit does that.

Maamin:
Can you back this up with scriptures?

ACTS23:8(The Sadducees say that there is no resurrection,and that there are neither ANGELS nor SPIRITS but the Pharisees believe all these things.)
9There was a great uproar, and some of the teachers of the law who were Pharisees stood up and argued vigorously. “We find nothing wrong with this man,”they said. “What if a SPIRIT or an ANGEL has spoken to him?”
Acts 23:8-9 proves that the demons are not fallen angels.In these two verses we see that angels and spirits are classified as two different kinds of beings. Even the ancient Jewish Pharisees put demons and angels into separate categories.If we read the four Gospels carefully, we will discover that the demons are also called evil spirits.Not only the angels are spirits; demons also are spirits.

John3:3..Jesus replied, "I tell you the truth, unless you are born again, you cannot "SEE"the Kingdom of God."
Every believer have SEEN His Kingdom(knowingly or not)and to SEE His Kingdom is same as SEEING Him.because Him and His Kingdom are one.
Luke17:21..You won't be able to say, 'Here it is!' or 'It's over there!' For the Kingdom of God is already among you."

enilove:
The sons of God in that scripture means THE FALLEN ANGELS OF GOD .
These fallen Angels are now referred to as demons and evil spirit beings.



Genesis 6:1-2 KJV
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2] That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

For better understanding , read the verse 1 ( one ) .

It says "men began to multiply " rather than "the sons of God began to multiply "

You are right.but I don't think demons are fallen angels.
Fallen Angels are principalities while demons are there foot soldiers.
2.fallen Angels don't posses humans
That's the job of demons.
3.Fallen Angels where created directly by God,while demons are the result of fallen angels mating with daughters of men.

Awesome write-up OP

sonmvayina:
Really?? Did you even read the passages? The sign In Isaiah 7 was for King Ahab, and the sign is Isaiah son... Continue reading to 8:18..you will see where Isaiah said 'me and the sons the Lord has give me, we are for signs and potents for the children of Israel "...

Chapter 9 is about a future king.. That will rule in Israel and bring peace...
Those do not refer to jesus..

Then you aren't schooled in prophecy.
Was Isaiahs wife a VIRGIN when his son was born?
2.was his son not born of natural decent?
3.is Isaiah not the father of the boy?
Try and SEE what John1:13 meant

It meant to be crucified..Gal2:20

Galatains3:19Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20A mediator, however, implies more than one party; "BUT GOD IS ONE"

Romans9:5.Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of the Messiah, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

New Living Translation
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are their ancestors, and Christ himself was an Israelite as far as his human nature is concerned. And he is God, the one who rules over everything and is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

English Standard Version
To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.

Berean Study Bible
Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them proceeds the human descent of Christ, who is God over all, forever worthy of praise! Amen.

Berean Literal Bible
whose are the patriarchs; and from whom is Christ according to the flesh, being God over all, blessed to the ages. Amen.

New American Standard Bible
whose are the fathers, and from whom is the Christ according to the flesh, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen.

King James Bible
Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Christian Standard Bible
The ancestors are theirs, and from them, by physical descent, came the Christ, who is God over all, praised forever.

sonmvayina:
Who sent him? Definitely not the creator of the world..

That is the problem... God never said he was going to send somebody to come and die for our sins, there was already a solution to the the problem of sin in the Torah.. All God was after was sincere repentance, or show us the way to get to him..

Jesus is just a roman creation to deceive and make mockery of God.. Constantine and his merry men created him, to control..

Which prophet prophesied that God was going to send his son... This is the part I want you to understand..
Give me old testament quotes to support your answer..
Christianity violates the 1st,2nd and 3rd commandments.. And even the one which says thou shall not kill, why will God use death as a solution, that will mean going against his words..

Isaiah7:14..All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means 'God is with us').
Isaiah9:6..For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Which are you!!
A Servant or a Prisoner?

sonmvayina:
You are part of why nothing is happening in our society, why God is punishing us.. You can not be making mockery of God and expect God to bless or heal your land.. You are involved in idolatry and God hates it..

So we are all suffering as a result of your choice.. Not just you, the whole lot if Christian and moslem.

Do you know the reason why Christ came?

Bholutife18:
Hey dude! JESUS ain't God. Stop missinterpreting the Bible. Don't tryna argue with me, Im a serious and unbias believer of Jesus but He isn't God! He's just His son.

Why do you think Jesus said 'no one cometh unto my father except through me'?

Read John 14:1-5 why did Jesus said '...in my father's house, there are many mansion...'?

And why did Jesus said "my father! My father! Why hast thou forsaken me?'


Dont quote me if you wana contine your argument. Being worshiped doesnt mean He's GOD!

The theme "Father and Son"
Are merely titles taken for a specific goal/purphose.it was an arrangement/agreement within the GodHead.
Philip2:6..Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

New Living Translation
Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.

English Standard Version
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Berean Study Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
The above verse said that Jesus was equal with the Father.but regarding obedience through Salvation He emptied Himself of that equality/divinity and took the form of a man/son.to achieve salvation.since He came to create obedience through salvation.He must empty His divinity and bears the TITLE:the Son.which in effect is obedience through service.while God assumes the TITTLE:the Father,signifying Authority.
So the Authority by the Father must be answered by obedience in the Son.philip2:5-9.
When the Son said "it is finished" on the cross.
It meant that creation He started in Genesis was complete/finish and the effect of His finished work was salvation to the world in large.

Aizenosa:
There is no need for objections, I believe those who understand their bibles can clearly tell that, the truth truly pains you, why because you twist and turn truths to suit your way of thinking.

My brother Christianity is not like that, why because the "Truth about Christ is truth and nothing can change the truth". The gospels of John is the most elaborate gospel and even it tells you that it doesn't contain everything about Christ that what was documented was for you to believe.

Also, even books older than the Bible has made plenty references to the truth about things that you are against today. So my brother today which you hear these truths harden not your heart.

Bro
Your point is?

bloodofthelamb:
True bro. "In his obedience, we are obedient."

Yes bro,"For it's no longer we that liveth,but He liveth His life in us and through us"..Gal2:20

Great post OP
More Grace to your life in Jesus name

May I never boast about anything except the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ. Because of that cross, my interest in this world has been crucified, and the world's interest in me has also died. (Galatians 6:14 NLT)

You can have Christian law just as much as you can have Mosaic law; you can be in bondage in Christianity just as much as men were in Judaism. Christianity can be made into an imposed system just as much as Mosaic law was, and there are many Christians today who live under the fear of the "Thou shalt" and the "Thou shalt not" of a legalistic conception of the Christian life. You can take the Bible as God's standard for your life and try to fulfill it and yet still be burdened with a sense of constant failure. It is God's standard, and it is a very exhaustive one which leaves no part of the practical life untouched, but those who make the effort to try to live up to it only end in disillusion. No, it is not just a matter of a Book but of a Person, the Person who did live up to that standard, absolutely fulfilling every least demand with the most perfect success, so satisfying God to the full. By His death He has delivered us from the bondage of legal demands. This same Person now lives in us by His Holy Spirit, seeking to work out that perfect will of God not on the basis of some binding instructions from without but as a living force within. We have the law written in our hearts. To be in Christ is a matter of Life and not of legalism.

Christ, and Christ crucified, is the power of God to bring deliverance from sin, from the flesh, from the law and from the world. "God forbid that I should glory save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me and I to the world" (Galatians 6:14). Paul was not glorying that he could enjoy so much of the world and yet have a clear conscience, but was enthusiastic about having been delivered from the world. For believers the only possible way of staying in this world is to know that they no longer belong to it.

SonofIssachar:
I believe in Miracles and dreams that will come true,

And I believe in happiness and friendship, through and through

I believe that when you cry your tears are not in vain,

And when you’re sad and lonely someone knows that you’re in pain.



I believe that when we laugh a sparkle starts to shine,

And before you know these sparks will spread

From more hearts than just mine.

I believe the gifts you have are there for you to share

And when you give them from the heart, the whole world knows you care.



I believe that if you give, even just to one,

That gift will grow in magnitude before the day is done.

I believe that comfort comes from giving part of me,

And if I share with others, there’s more for all to see.

I believe that love is still the greatest gift of all,

And when it’s given from the heart, Love will conquer all.

Meditation: And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love. – 1 Corinthians 13:13

You will succeed in Jesus Name!

Also read:
https://daily-dew.com/believe-there-is-a-solution/
https://daily-dew.com/why-i-believed-the-easter-story/
https://daily-dew.com/top-10-reasons-to-believe-in-the-christian-faith/

I believe you are a Man-Child!!
Bless you.