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komekn:
The football quality I think in the NPFL is better but what kills us is lack if structure, organisation and money otherwise I think NPFL is better.

I am watching Hearts vs Hibernian and honestly no emotive bias I think Enyimba will beat any of these two teams.

A lot of these European leagues are overrated.

If the NPFL can get its acts right in terms of stadium facilities, Sponsorship deals, TV rights and organization and if the clubs can also take care of their players welfare the Nigerian league can return to its glory days.

It is disheartening for an NPFL top scorer to leave a footballing country like Nigeria and travel to play football in Slovenia, Belarus or Azerbaijan. And some in Turkish second and third divisions.

do4luv14:
I nominate JOEBIE,
but sir ICON4s hope say rigging no go dey ooo

Dem go pay money to the committee members?
So how rigging go take dey? Lol.

ChrisKels:
If u wan to scatter the committe wt fight, nominate andrew4... Jesu!! Who slap me from behind

Lol!

Daninya11:
Fikayo Tomori starts as CB for Derby county
Vic mo didn't make match day squad for Chelsea.

Tomori scored an own goal.

Icon79:
Well, he didn't score but I believe he was Arsenal's best player on Sunday. Don'cha agree


O pari

Being Arsenal's best player doesn't mean he will automatically make EPL 11.

I am really glad Success made it.

Icon79:
I am surprised that Alex Iwobi wasn't nominated as well. Iwobi definitely earned a spot both last week and this week. His performance has been top notch so far this season.


O pari

He didn't do enough this last weekend to merit a place.

ChrisKels:
Can an already nominated man also nominate? If yes, I nominate elder sir Kog45

Yes.

Icon79:
Gosh, I have so many people I want to nominate:

Supernerd, Joebie, et al. Anyway, when does this polling/nomination ends? I want to wait until the last minute so I can nominate any deserving person who's overlooked. And by the way, I will recommend that a few knowledgeable members (my humble self inclusive) should be automatically included in this committee.

#JustSaying


O pari

Oga, everyone here is knowledgeable. So nominate one person.

The talk of 10-10 earlier today took me back memory lane to that great game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pune9oGqTww

Him try

Icon4s:
Thank you everyone that has responded.

With 20likes and 0 shares it means we have a unanimous decision here, so no time to waste.

Next we go ahead and make nominations of Players Selection Committee members.

Please I crave the involvement of everyone in the house, including those on ghost mode.

Remember the three rules for nomination of Players Selection Committee members
1. You are to nominate one person
2. Do not nominate yourself
3. Do not nominate twice.

Ladies and Gentlemen the floor is open.

tbaba1234

BascoVanVeli:
Samuel Chukwueze's brace


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ti2WJhm_q8

Playing a highly gifted leftie from the right wing is always a problem for defenders.

Icon4s:
NAIRALAND NIGERIAN FOOTBALL AWARDS!



A good and blessed Morning House.

We have all analyzed football here for a couple of years now. We have tasted the joys of victory and agonies of defeat from different competitions we have participated in. And each one we have come out better as we have always learnt one, two or more lessons.

Believe it or not we have here in the house some of the best followers and analysts of Nigerian football. Forget that we argue all the time, but these arguments generally have yielded fruits in certain areas and our national teams have gotten better for it.

DON'T WE THINK IT IS TIME WE STARTED ROLLING OUT AWARDS, IN VARIOUS CATEGORIES, TO WELL DESERVING NIGERIAN NATIONAL TEAM FOOTBALLERS?

Now this is just a suggestion.

If a larger part of the house agree, we go ahead and set up a players selection committee which will be saddled with the responsibly of:
1. Coming up with various award categories eg: Most improved player in 2018, best Nigerian goal in 2018, Most impressive new inclusion, Best young player (U20 and U17), Best SE Goal keeper 2018, Nigerian Player of the year, best Super Falcons player etc.
2. Nominating players for the various award categories selected above (Maximum of 3 for each category). Note that criteria for the selection of these players must be spelt out.
3. Collating and announcing of results after the votings.

How do we come up with who and who will make up the Players' Selection committee?
I would suggest a 3 Man (or woman ) Committee. The house will have to suggest monikers. Every member of this thread or even visitors would have to nominate one person he or she feels should be a member of this committee. Note that you cannot nominate your self and you cannot nominate more than 1 person. 3 monikers with the highest number of nominations will form the players selection committee.

If we agree, we can set 1 week period for which we can suggest names for the selection committee and the selection committee will have to start work immediately after the Nigeria vs Uganda friendly. So that the voting process will commence first week in December.

At the end of the exercise a thread will be created to publish the names of awardees and mods called upon to take to front page or we may even take it to the sports sections of major News Papers in Nigeria.

Note again that it is just a suggestion and open to more ideas and suggestions.

The simple thing to do for a start is if you agree you click "like" and if you do not agree you click ''share''.


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Thank you everyone that has responded.

With 20likes and 0 shares it means we have a unanimous decision here, so no time to waste.

Next we go ahead and make nominations of Players Selection Committee members.

Please I crave the involvement of everyone in the house, including those on ghost mode.

Remember the three rules for nomination of Players Selection Committee members
1. You are to nominate one person
2. Do not nominate yourself
3. Do not nominate twice.

Ladies and Gentlemen the floor is open.

daveP:
I find it so demeaning and very mannerless for one to just start up insults cos someone opined differently from what everyone know or says? Can't someone be wrong in peace and be corrected in peace again ni? Must we all align in facts, figures and vigor? I find that really low. Not to talk of how those that feel like Legends or Echelon Informants acting like everyone on here is way low and should be so cos they aren't well informed like they are.


I think we'll should learn from tbaba1234 that doesn't rub such down people's shoulders and let's us all just chill to think.


The idea and common knowledge that some sect on here refuse to change stance however is not hidden and as usual, they fire shots, and should expect shots especially if they know that bias in the face of truth is their stance. Else let's all respect each other pls. No one is gonna win a title worth millions of dollars for knowing it all, neither is the jjc on here going to continue being a jjc. Hell yeah, he or she can't with the way information is dropped on here daily.

Let's return to Sanity days pls.


Gracias!!!

Thank you for the observation and this comment.

Firstly, though I personally do not condone insults but there is nothing demeaning about any discussions or arguments going on here. Fact that people are arguing viciously a course here only goes to show the deep concern some of us have about Nigerian football.

Davep, I have always known you on this thread but have also known u are not among those regular contributors. I bet you to get more involved in discussions and see if you will not find yourself in one heated argument or the other. Yes, that is what it is "heated arguments".

There is nothing happening here now that has never been happening before. These arguments are what keep the thread going. A lot of us do not do insults here because we always know when to stop when the heated arguments are beginning to go over the roof.

There are some people who cannot just look away when certain skewed information are being posted here. If anyone has any reason to oppose any view he should be ready to back it up with valid facts. That's all!

As long as we all remain on this thread there is no way we will all reason alike. And so you should expect more heated arguments to continue.

However, as we have always cautioned, ''do not blow below the belt''.

Taliban:
Bright was a left back, he was named 10-10 for taking out an Algerian player in a game we had already gotten a red card and the opponents had completed their subs. The tackling was ghost mode as referee no see am, in short he was our equalizer 2000 at the maroc 88 nations cup. Over to Icon4s and kog45 who definitely watched him and other greats like Thompson usiyen and Paul hamilton, I only read about those two.

Yeah Bright 10-10 Omokaro. You are spot on.

busky007:
The idea of an award is a good one I support it

Ok good. Make sure you click "like" to show support.

NAIRALAND NIGERIAN FOOTBALL AWARDS!



A good and blessed Morning House.

We have all analyzed football here for a couple of years now. We have tasted the joys of victory and agonies of defeat from different competitions we have participated in. And each one we have come out better as we have always learnt one, two or more lessons.

Believe it or not we have here in the house some of the best followers and analysts of Nigerian football. Forget that we argue all the time, but these arguments generally have yielded fruits in certain areas and our national teams have gotten better for it.

DON'T WE THINK IT IS TIME WE STARTED ROLLING OUT AWARDS, IN VARIOUS CATEGORIES, TO WELL DESERVING NIGERIAN NATIONAL TEAM FOOTBALLERS?

Now this is just a suggestion.

If a larger part of the house agree, we go ahead and set up a players selection committee which will be saddled with the responsibly of:
1. Coming up with various award categories eg: Most improved player in 2018, best Nigerian goal in 2018, Most impressive new inclusion, Best young player (U20 and U17), Best SE Goal keeper 2018, Nigerian Player of the year, best Super Falcons player etc.
2. Nominating players for the various award categories selected above (Maximum of 3 for each category). Note that criteria for the selection of these players must be spelt out.
3. Collating and announcing of results after the votings.

How do we come up with who and who will make up the Players' Selection committee?
I would suggest a 3 Man (or woman ) Committee. The house will have to suggest monikers. Every member of this thread or even visitors would have to nominate one person he or she feels should be a member of this committee. Note that you cannot nominate your self and you cannot nominate more than 1 person. 3 monikers with the highest number of nominations will form the players selection committee.

If we agree, we can set 1 week period for which we can suggest names for the selection committee and the selection committee will have to start work immediately after the Nigeria vs Uganda friendly. So that the voting process will commence first week in December.

At the end of the exercise a thread will be created to publish the names of awardees and mods called upon to take to front page or we may even take it to the sports sections of major News Papers in Nigeria.

Note again that it is just a suggestion and open to more ideas and suggestions.

The simple thing to do for a start is if you agree you click "like" and if you do not agree you click ''share''.


cc: Joseph1033, Terzurum5, M7even, Daninya11, tbaba1234, Michael2, Kog45, Joebie, komekn, andrew444, kentebemoney, BascoVanVeli, rabzy, Nedville, Safarigirl, Taliban, Forgiveness, TheGoodJoe, TheSuperNerd, ChrisKels, Chrisoblog, mujtahida, enomakos, confun, EEGA, COOL10, Earthquake1, elyte89, junnyjake, darkelf, davep, edi287, Sportilitica, Certitude, Chrismario, Danielnino00, Trinity, zayyadidris, Magink, Curtisaxel7, AIG07, Icon79, krattoss, petrobros, Odunayaw, Charlesemeka85, do4luv14, realpoacher, chiscodedon, zoboizee, raindodger13, wayodude, Naijaphobia, Truidstar, oloriooko, maidaboi, Onozboy, jieta, Jihday, Humility017, loogan, Diavolo, gameliel9, cc12, isan, kennysville, busky007, kingphilip, Sadiqali24, Unlimited22, Sainty92, alexie4real, Eseose9, Seunvense, goldfish80 and other too numerous to mention.

Nnamdi Ofoborh was an used substitute for AFC Bournemouth as they beat Norwich 2-1 in last night's League Cup game.

tbaba1234:
Not true,

Ikwouwem is not national team quality, so many flaws in his game.

I watched him against raja casablanca and he could not complete a pass.

Far from national team standard.

Collins is much better.

Ukouwem, for sure is not a Super Eagles material for now and has a lot to improve on his game. With the AYC and WYC(if we qualify) he will sure gather more experience. Also recon him to be part of the Olympics team.

Danielnino00:
Simeon was already in the SE before Rohr took over so it's only natural for him to have been considered ahead of Onyekuru. Rohr doesn't rate the Belgian league high IMO. Every season we have players from the league that perform well but they hardly get called up.and even when they do,they don't play.. Even Ndidi didn't become a regular until he moved to Leicester...

Osimhen invitation must be because Rohr likes him...And I don't think that's bad...every coach has a favorite player....

Should be more like "Rohr has special interest in his abilities" and not "Rohr likes him"

andrew444:
I never meant awoniyi should be invited now bro

I am making an example with last season okay,and when awoniyi was scoring those goals he was not even considered

Osimhen has 1 cap during is Wolfsburg stint and he didn't even score a single goal for Wolfsburg then ,so you can see what I am saying ?

Even if awoniyi has osimhen form right now he will never be considered

Even when onyekuru was tearing Belgium apart he was not even invited quickly

Even that last year you talk about (meaning WCQ) Awoniyi couldn't have been considered.

BascoVanVeli:
I gave an explanation already

OK o

Joebie:
Osimhen has been better this season though

Joebie you are being emotively biased o.

ChrisKels:
U get time. Abeg no allow Dat boy drag u through the muds mbok

Me.....? You see me respond to him again? When I have more intelligent people to discuss with?

Say I practice Quasi Trabalism that is worse than racial discrimination. I retuned his statement to him and started crying that I called him a racist , when he himself described my own comment as worse than racism.

Na wa. Una wey dey argue with these guys get strength o.

Nedville:
Billing doesn't seem realistic. He adores Denmark.. They will have to ignore him for us to have a chance at all

I agree.

BascoVanVeli:
KC, Osimhen and Success were all bashed for no good reason by u and u even have the nerves to still defend Solanke. Not saying that u are racist but u have bad bele towards some of these boys for reasons only u know.

Asking me to point one name when even he himself knows these names

BascoVanVeli:
See as u wan put wahala for my head this early mor mor Right now on paper u are right to expect them to be dropped but I feel they will be the hungriest players in camp and Rohr is getting set to have a big selection headache.

I seriously think Rohr will be tempted to start Samu because even a blind man can see that the boy is very special and on his day he could destroy South Africa. If he were Spanish, people would be talking about the next Messi and he surely would be a starter in Villarreal. Simon and Kalu will be his competition. Simon has not played for his club since return and Kalu was not so good last time out.

Victor Osimhen is basically an Ndidi that scores goals. The boy just does not stop working for the team, that is the real reason he won his starting place so quick in Belgium. He can play any of the front 3 positions and even was played as a DMF once at Wolfsburg. Nacho did not play last time and Success only played in Uyo so it wouldn't be a total shock if one or both hit the stands to accommodate the young man.

Chukwueze start when Kalu and Musa are in the team? Remember Moses Simon too is there.

He making the match day squad will even be shocking.

komekn:
You are making yourself look far from intelligent in this public forum.

You are now making shameless evasive NOISE.

My question to you was specific, NAME ONE NIGERIAN BORN PLAYER [/b]that has been pulled down with prejudice and bias in favour of A Nigerian origin player born in Europe.

You are moving the goal posts and detracting away from the specific issue. Please name just one, but since you said you can name 5, [b] I challenge you to do so please.

In addition ➕ this is absurd. How can you accuse your fellow Nigerian of being racist. Lost for words. ❓ ❓

You didn't term my post as being tribal and worse than racism right?
Oga, I am done with you.

I don't do insults like you do.

BascoVanVeli:
I think they both should make the match day squad because they are ready right now and they can bring options we didn't have before.

I hope u know only 18 players out of 23 will make the match day squad, meaning 5 players will be dropped.

Go back to that list again and technically select the 5 players to be dropped. And lets discuss.

charlesemeka85:
you are right but chukwueze is yet to do anything tangible in villareal to deserve a call up. maybe what is working for him is because he is left footed and currently in the team we lack a left footed winger. he is a top prospect no doubt with a lot of promise but i think he should not be rushed into the team. all the same it will be a good experience which will aid is development.

What some of these players have going for them are their track records at youth level.

We saw them blow the world away at U17 and we have closely followed their development and while most of their colleagues have gradually faded away these few have managed against all odds to stay relevant and are beginning to deliver the goods, some at senior level.

Had Chukwueze not ever been involved in any Nigerian youth set-up it would have taken a lot more convincing for the national team handlers to invite him to the Super Eagles. Same goes for Nwakali and Osimhen.

It may look a little too early for the invitation of some of these lads but I still feel the move is not counter productive. BTW I feel Chukwueze and Osimhen are for the Uganda friendly. And I trust just like in the case of the Nwakali that if they are found not ready, we send them back into the incubators. I hope they come out good though.

tbaba1234:
Otigba turned down an invite from Hungary to wait for Nigeria and we never invited him.

Ebere Eze and Ejaria have made it clear that Nigeria is their first choice. Ejaria came all the way from England to audition for under 17 and was part of the 2013 under17 team before Arsenal called him back. He would have gone to the WC with Iheanacho and co.

Semi Ajayi played under 20 for Nigeria. He did not wait to be called by England. He was at Arsenal at the time.

There are several players who will jump at the chance if we invite them.

Why Rohr wasted time in inviting Ebere Eze beats me hollow. The midfield needs injection of younger players as likes of Mikel, Ogu, Joel and Onazi are fast aging away. I hope the NFF can immediately commence the paper work for the switch of Eze, Billings and Ejaria so they can be invited for the Seychelles game next year.

komekn:
The issue is about your perception not objectivity. You are too emotively biased.

Once a Nigerian origin player is being talked about you immediately create division and separation.

The only consideration should be best quality no other consideration. what you are practicing is quasi tribalism against Nigerian origin players because they were not born in Nigeria.


It's worse than racial discrimination and unacceptable.

I haven't seen anybody run down players because they were born in Nigeria I think that's your imagination and prejudiced perception.

I challenge you to give one instance ❓ ❓ ❓

Objective preference based on out right better quality is not running players down.

Oga, you are the one who is emotively biased and also racially discriminate against players born outside of England.

You are challenging me to give you one instance when I can even give you 4 or maybe 5 players u have consistently tried to pull down because they are not products of the English system which u have sentimentally biasedly imagined is the best any where in the world?