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Joebie:
I’m okay with the list since Eze is no longer available to us AUTOMATICALLY, and some new players were invited on merit.

But what if Uzoho gets injured? Lol

U for kuku ask say "what if Rohr gets injured".

Was Uzoho part of our WC qualifiers? Do we not have goalies that kept goal in those games?

charlesemeka85:
to me chukwueze's invitation is too early though it will serve as a learning tool and will boast his confidence as well. he just made few appearances for villareal so i dont think its enough to warrant a call up. inviting club brugges dennis would have been better.

He and Osimhen are not likely to make the SA game match day squad though.

They are likely to be tested against Uganda.
I also think our squad has too many wingers. We once had too many midfielders but that department of the team seems to have thinned out now. Rohr needs to inject fresh players into that midfield.

Joebie:
Oga it’s up to the products to develop after passing through our youth system. We can’t be sentimental when it gets to the National team. The senior National team should be for proven and tested players and should not serve as an incubator for the stagnant products of our youth system.

Of course if u have followed my posts long enough on this thread that has always been my stand.

I do not tolerate rookies in the senior national team and I also do not rate players based on their U17 performances alone. And I have always opined that not all Youth players will progress well to the senior teams. These have always been my stand right from day one here.

What I am against is running down the products of our youths system just in a bid to promote the English born players.

krattoss:
If Rohr orchesterd this list, then this is the first time am gonna be mad and disappointed in his action..

Common,3 midfielders,? What if one gets injured?
No onazi, no MIKEL, no ndidi,..
And I thought we re going bazark and seeking revenge against these southies..

Las las I no go troll them again cos the outcome of this match I can't guarantee.

Well I am surprised too. At least with Ndidi out due to suspension I expected to see Onazi on the list.

But be it as it may from the 3 midfielders we play only 2 at a time (DM and CM). We select the AM and wingers from the list of forwards. Which ever formation we adopt, be it 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 only one of those 2 midfielders will get to start. It means they will all make match day squad and some of those guys in the forward and defense list will be dropped.

chiscodedon:
Finally Chukwueze made the list... Take it easy with Rohr.
Osimehn must have been inform to make the list.... Haven't been following his progress in his new club lately... But why just 3 midfielders..? Nice to see Agu back, the dude hasn't really been given time in GWG
Who's Adeleye..?

Adeleye Aniyikaye is an NPFL player with FC Ifeanyi Ubah.

See how Chidozie Awaziem his dropped in the pecking order.

Osimhen Re-invited. Lets have a close look at him again to ascertain whether he is a ready bread or needs to go back to the bakery like the Nwakalis.

BTW why is Onazi not there? Is it an omission or what?

chiscodedon:
Finally Chukwueze made the list... Take it easy with Rohr.
Osimehn must have been inform to make the list.... Haven't been following his progress in his new club lately... But why just 3 midfielders..? Nice to see Agu back, the dude hasn't really been given time in GWG
Who's Adeleye..?

Wow, never saw the list before I pointed that Chukwueze should take over Onyekuru's spot. Good decision Rohr.

charlesemeka85:
Henry Onyekuru is due to return from injury by November 12, according to various reports.

However, his return will come too close to the Super Eagles AFCON showdown against South Africa on November 17 in Johannesburg and so he is expected to be left out of the squad.



The 21-year-forward was injured shortly after featuring for Nigeria against Libya in Sfax earlier this month.

British tabloids have reported that European top guns PSG and Bayern Munich wish to sign Onyekuru from Premier League side Everton.

He has a contract with Everton till the summer of 2022.

He is currently on loan at Turkish champions Galatasaray, where he has scored twice in

Let Chukwueze take his place then.

Earthquake1:
Philip Billing has a magnificent left foot

If we invite him I don't care about Eze or any other person

Nothing wrong with having both as long as they can add value

Joebie:
Also, “Identify”, that makes it 4. We usually fail at this very first part.

Yes ''Identify'' but not by pulling down the products of our Youths system.

Joebie:
We should be able to identify the deserving and willing to compete with our home grown talents.

Mark the 3 key words: Deserving, Willing and Compete.

ChrisKels:
This came came from you while u were running riot in a bid to ridicule Nwakali;



Now see how u shot urself in the foot trynna protect ur jewel Solanke




Now need I remind u that Solanke is already 21+ and plays youth football, judging by the bolded above? What does that make him? Hahaha a true waste man like Danielnino said.

Dude u aint got no integrity, whatsoever.

Meanwhile Kelechi Nwakali is even 20.

Just observe the same feeling he has across for Isaac Success, Kelechi Iheanacho, Victor Osimhen and Kelechi Nwakali. Understably he has also added Sadiq Umar.

Mr Komekn, I have nothing against the foreign born players and have always wished the deserving ones get involved in our national teams at all level but please quit this your age long practice of trying by all means to run down our Players that started balling in naija. You should know you are on a lost course already cos there is no way we will abandon players who are naija deeply rooted and are available and willing to play for us and be chasing after players who mostly are hoping to play for England and see Nigeria as a second or third choice.

Promote them if you want but not by pulling down our locally groomed players

safarigirl:
So, nobody could detect that I was just joking around with that Ross Barkley comment?

Y'all must really be sober about the guy... Anyway, he's not a fresh baby boy, I cannot regret the loss of player wey no be fresh baby boy

Now, if asampete like Loftus-Cheek was eligible for Nigeria, I would have burnt down NFF glass house for losing him to England

I had to look at the moniker that wrote it again and again. And thought that something was wrong somewhere.

I was now waiting for someone to come and quote u saying "your eyes don clear now"? Lol.

Joebie:
U say dem never accept their Naija origin. That’s what I’m commenting on, else we go start to discuss matter when we don discuss before.

Just wait for the names he will role out when given the opportunity.

He is so predictable and doesn't disappoint.

ChrisKels:
I do not hate u, but if U believe I do, bro it doesn't pull no strand of hair off my body.

About the so called question, man we know ur intentions. Ur target was to ridicule the boy to make ur preferred players look good. U have been here bleating all day because of Nwakali, saying at 21, any player still in the youth team is a fluke, u forgot Nwakali was neither 21 nor in a youth team, u also forgot Iorfa at 22 abi 23 sef still plays for wolves youth team.

Some people just do not want to see Nwakali near the U23 team even though available options are very few.

ChrisKels:
Some people wont like this

Please can u expansion.

Joebie:
Ah no talk like that o, or U go lose this argument.

Is there a trophy for who ever wins any argument?

Yes he plays for Porto B, but who are the other available options who U21 that can be in that midfield?

Joebie:
Lol sir U sef dey tell komekn we are short in options? Oya wait make he answer u with he options.

Na to begin mention players wey nova even accept their Nigerian origin. E go pass that one?

komekn:
Football evolves and moves forward progressively.

In the current structure if you are 21 and you are still playing youth football you should have no business in the U23 national team.

There are exceptions if you ate at Barcelona, Bayern, Manchester city, Liverpool, Real, Juventus, etc it's most probable that World class players ahead of you are limiting your opportunities.

At 21 you should be playing first team football, of not your quality is open to question and is far from proven.

That is an ideal situation.

But what happens when u are short in options?
You make do with the available.

charlesemeka85:
the array of talents springing up and the possibility of few euro born talents switching to nigeria, 2 years will be too long for nwakaili to sit up

In that same 2 years some of the SE players may also have lost their positions. 2 years is a long time in football.

We are talking about now bro. If a list of national U21 players is drawn Kelechi Nwakali will definitely make the team. Opari.

charlesemeka85:
neither are we sudan,eritrea nor madagascar who will be desperate to have a proto B player in their fold

@ U23 especially when there are limited midfield options. That is the point.

andrew444:
Kelechi is not ahead of Abdul zubairu as far as football and stats is concerned .


But as far as our local coaches is concerned he will be called up for u23

Wait, let me even assume Zubairu is better than Nwakali, that still Doesnt mean Nwakali is not good enough for the U23 team. I mean the team can accommodate both players.

Saying K. Nwakali should not be invited for the U23 is a no-no-no.

andrew444:
The both of them.

As far as we have 20/21 year old midfielder playing first team football in European clubs then they should be ahead of him

Oga, we are not discussing the SE, so stick to point.

Kelechi Nwakali is currently ahead in the pecking order of all our midfielders who are available to us and are U21 or less.

andrew444:
Oga it's wrong and it's a downgrade we don't need to be Brazil ,o common take a look at your mentality

Oga a player need to do well for his club ,super eagles does not need a dead wood team b players where they are better players

Ighalo keeps being invited because he keeps scoring for his club.

Even Ghana that we have better players than will not invite a team b player .

Are we talking about the SE or the U23 team?

Joebie:
Read tbaba’s 2nd Paragraph again. New talents are emerging everyday. A lot can happen within a couple years. Is he good for the U23 today? Yes! . At least he is among the top 4 midfielders in that bracket by default due to lack of competition. But that he should make the cut in our next U23 team, is too early to say. He needs to use this launchpad well though if he gets the chance.

Yes, New talents emerge everyday.

And yes, you have answered the question. Is he good for U23 today? "Yes". Note also that the discuss is based on players who are 21 or less. That is the subject of this debate. We don't yet know for certain in which direction his development will go going forward.

But as for now, looking at players that fall withing his age cadre, he is good enough to make an U21 or U23 team.

andrew444:
Jamilu Collins is playing in bundesliga division 2 which is not bad ,semi Ajayi is playing in the championship which is not bad


Oga we have keeper problem ,uzoho is okay ,name any of our keeper playing top flight football in Europe ? Don't bring up that keeper issue here as a cover up .

The last time I checked etebo didn't play in a club team b so what are you saying ? Are you trying to twist words ?

What happens to ahmed musa is it because he is playing in Saudi league ? The last time I checked Saudi league is rated ahead of China ,the last time I checked ,carrasco ,witsel,renato Augusto made the World Cup team of Belgium and Brazil playing in Asia .paulinho was recently called up by Brazil playing in China

You made no point by including ahmed musa ,Nordin amrabat plays with the same club with musa and he still make the Morocco team

Mbark boussoufa was Morocco asst captain at the World Cup and plays his football in the UAE

Bros you have no clue okay ,sorry to tell you that

You are just backing your favorite player ,I also love this player but if the likes of awoniyi can be in Belgium why can't he be in Belgium ? even if na turkey self

Kenneth omeruo has been a Chelsea player for long ,he has been loaned severally since age 19/20 which is nwakali age but he has never go on loan in a team b

Kelechi nwakali might captain the u23 team ,yes I will also not be suprised because our Nigeria coaches are useless and most of them leave on past glory ,if nwakali keep on playing for a b them he has no business in u23 ,but he will be there because people who think like you are in charge.

Oga, we are not Brazil, Spain or Germany, if we are accepting teams in the Championship, Bundesliga2, Chinese league and Saudi League in our Main Super Eagles, then there is nothing wrong in inviting a player in Portuguese 2nd division for the U23 team. But note that, I stated that the league players feature should not be the only criterion. K. Nwakali's personal abilities are enough to take him to the U23 team. Is it not here that we agreed that club performances do not always translate to national team performances.

That aside if there were numerous options this would not be a debate.

andrew444:
Jamilu Collins is playing in bundesliga division 2 which is not bad ,semi Ajayi is playing in the championship which is not bad


Oga we have keeper problem ,uzoho is okay ,name any of our keeper playing top flight football in Europe ? Don't bring up that keeper issue here as a cover up .

The last time I checked etebo didn't play in a club team b so what are you saying ? Are you trying to twist words ?

What happens to ahmed musa is it because he is playing in Saudi league ? The last time I checked Saudi league is rated ahead of China ,the last time I checked ,carrasco ,witsel,renato Augusto made the World Cup team of Belgium and Brazil playing in Asia .paulinho was recently called up by Brazil playing in China

You made no point by including ahmed musa ,Nordin amrabat plays with the same club with musa and he still make the Morocco team

Mbark boussoufa was Morocco asst captain at the World Cup and plays his football in the UAE

Bros you have no clue okay ,sorry to tell you that

You are just backing your favorite player ,I also love this player but if the likes of awoniyi can be in Belgium why can't he be in Belgium ? even if na turkey self

Kenneth omeruo has been a Chelsea player for long ,he has been loaned severally since age 19/20 which is nwakali age but he has never go on loan in a team b

Kelechi nwakali might captain the u23 team ,yes I will also not be suprised because our Nigeria coaches are useless and most of them leave on past glory ,if nwakali keep on playing for a b them he has no business in u23 ,but he will be there because people who think like you are in charge.

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tbaba1234:
I disagree with this slightly.

Players like Collins, Etebo, Uzoho are playing in good enough levels for the super eagles. We are not a world class team anymore where all our players come from top divisions. Bundesliga 2, Spanish second division and the Championship are tougher than some top divisions in some of the smaller countries.

As regards Nwakali, his development has been very disappointing. There is no running away from it. The under 23 team can be another launchpad for him but he is getting to the age where he needs to start showing something. New talents emerge everyday.

Don't miss my point. I know we are not World Class. And so if we can accommodate players in the Championship, Bundesliga 2, Chinese and Saudi League in our Super Eagles, why the heck can we not accommodate a Portuguese second division player in the U23 team? and note, especially when available options are few in that U23 midfield.

See, I am 100% in support of Nwakali not being ready for the SE but to say he is not good enough for the U23 midfield is just way off the mark. I mean, Who are the available midfield options? Or are you also saying Nwakali is not good enough for the U23 team? Or what is ur stand?

edi287:
Playing him as an SS means we sacrifice one of our mids(which will most likely be Iwobi). At the moment, that isn't a good idea.
I don't think he can play as a winger too. It's too late for that. He should've started off playing there at the city academy. I don't think he can operate in tight spaces too.
Maybe playing as a wide forward like Musa might work.

His best position is what Leicester has offered him. If he doesn't deliver there I wonder where else he would deliver.

As for the SE Rohr is more comfortable with 4-5-1 or 4-3-3. It means Iheanacho may likely have few games time going forward because Rohr is not likely to adjust his setup because of him.

junnyjake:
Chai! Na so the thing do you sotey u quote Me 3 times??


Chidera has done enough for me at valarenga to get a spot with the U-23 team.

Sorry the triple post was network issue.

Yes, he can get a spot so does K. Nwakali. The midfield is not composed of one player Abi?

andrew444:
None will displace him because of maybe the coach is bias,a reasonable coach will not pick a Porto b player over a starting midfielder in Slovakia league ,he has not even be starting in Porto b recently

He should work hard ,if he his playing in the Belgium league or any other league starting games I will keep my mouth shut,I can never hype a player playing for a b team never.

You guys will be hyping nwakali ,why don't you also hype musa yahaya

See, I won't be surprised if K. Nwakali even captains the U23 team.

Players selection is not strictly based on the club they play. Players like Jamilu Collins, Ahmed Musa, Karo Etebor and even Francis Uzoho wouldn't have been in the Super Eagles if it is based on the division or competitiveness of the league in which they plays.

Is the NPFL better than the Portuguese league 2? And yet a good number of NPFL players will make the team.

I agreed whole heartedly that Kelechi Nwakali is not ready for the SE. But not so for the U23! You and I know how gifted the boy is. He is good enough for the U23 abeg especially as available options in the midfield are few.

And to your last paragraph, I should be the one asking you why you chose to criticise my inclusion of K. Nwakali on the list and left Musa Yahaya, because I listed both.

edi287:
Aguero and Suarez were the same too when they first moved to the epl. They both eventually learned how to play as a lone CF.
Back then, people didn't know if Aguero was a 9 or a 10.
Nacho can do it if he works hard...either that or he becomes another Podolski.

Well said

edi287:
Iheanacho best performances have been as an SS. Leicester play with 2 upfront. At least 80 percent of his best performances in city came when he played with another striker.
He just needs to improve his allround game.

True. Leicester is about the only EPL club that has a setup that could more easily accommodate Iheanacho.