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[quote author=Ekealterego post=99355974][/quote]Ijaw people are dense and lack cognitive abilities due to too much ogogoro. I should know because I am in the medical field. I have never come across an intelligent Ijaw man in person or online.

PHijo:
I don't have time for you, I wish I had!

1. Nri is NOT an Igbo civilisation, it is Igala
2. If you had shame you wouldn't claim the exploits of freed slaves.
3. Slaves are largely educated by those who enslave them. Since Ijaw people enslaved Igbo it is Igbo who learnt from our superior way of doing things and not the other way round.

Akwete is NOT Igbo!

This is the reason we tell you that you Igbo are recent immigrants in Nigeria.

It is no coincidence that both Akwete and Nri are the boundaries with other ethnic groups. Ask yourself why no meaningful thing is in Igbo heartland. Even Aro is boundary area.

The Igbo cultural thieves. Right before our eyes they've tried to rename our Feni as Isi agwu, claim the Kanuri cap, claiming Bini beads, using a cap Ijaw priests use as their traditional cap etc.

This is pure garbage. You don't even know where Nri communities are located, Olodo.

By the way , Aro was described as some of the most intelligent and organized groups in Southern Nigeria. Meanwhile, I am Nri decendant.

Ijaw didn't enslave anybody, you were just tools used by the Aro and the white man to make money.


Edit: Are you aware that the Igbo has no boundaries with Kanuri. If you want to know the origin of the red hat then you should ask us....lol

The oldest beaded artifact in west Africa was found at Igboukwu with ichi facial scarification. The Igbo beads are stone based and reddish.

Next time , don't start what you can't finish.

PHijo:
Igala and Benin people in particular

Igala of Anambra where I hail from is not up to 2% of the state. There are no Bini people in Anambra.

Ekealterego:
The denial is only in your head. They are even very much happy to be in Anambra state and they are being treated well.. In fact, the news is also delivered to them specially in Igala language even though they are bilingual in Igbo and Igala.
However, have you given the same privileges to the Urhobos and Isoko in Bayelsa?

I love this reply. The Igala of Anambra are so comfortable because they are carried along. They often would not say they are Igala until you dig deep.

Crappy movie

Ekealterego:
Although sometimes I do not know where you stand on Igbo issues either on Odenigbo Aroli or Nripriest but one thing I do not underestimate is your genuine passion and love with those previous monikers. However, I do not really understand you again and how you favour Juliusmalema, his Malezwhatever and Osageywhatever moniker, whose sole mission is to tear Igbos apart and create enmity...

On the topic, you have to understand, the fear of the Edo people... People exclude them quite fiercely in the Biafran discussions (they have never been part of the discussion in the first place). Now, imagine where that leaves them? It leaves them with Nigeria at the mercy of the Yorubas who though will be peaceful, will have an overbearing power over them. The other alternative will be to stay alone with the Ijaws.... I do not need to explain much about the consequences to you... The Ijaws and the other non-Igbo ethnic groups are still not happy with the role Yorubas played in favour of the Itshekiris in Warri. The Yorubas on the other hand will not have much to lose staying on their own but they are wary of being in one Country with the Hausas without a big balancing power like the Igbos. If the Igbos leave, The Hausas might not let go of the Yorubas or even the Ijaws.. No balancing power too.

Now Imagine leaving only the Ijaws and the Edoids to form a country, without roping others into it to balance the powers. That is why they are screaming Naija Delta as if Igbos are not inside. They are the ones who scream Niger Delta the most because they feel it is synonymous with oil...but you see, two Igbo states are in the Niger Delta but those two states really do not care because they have much more to offer besides oil. These realities scare the Ijaws and Edoid groups to the marrow.
So sometimes, I empathize with them....that is why an Edo man 100s of counties and ethnic nations apart will be searching for brotherhood with the Efiks, who are in all ways, form and manner have more common with their Igbo cousins.

You should know I am all for Igbo unity but differ in some internal complex issues. That's about it. I don't kiss anybody's assz and I am still Igbo as they come. Dont worry about my strong Anambra leaning....at the end we are all Igbo.

As per Bini, don't believe the fake love they are exhibiting here for the NigerDelta/Ijaw. In real life they hate Ijaw to the bone marrow and this is not even debatable. The time of Bini Chiefdom is over and they are just getting the wake up call that they are practically inconsequential in the thick of things henceforth the desperation to kiss any assz that will favor them.

Of course , like you rightly said, Biafra never regarded Edo as a group we could form a country with....lmao.

Logan23:
Shut up oga, Igbos have a direct border relationship and a blood relationship with the efiks. Even the former governor of cross river state is Liyel imoke, An igbo man. Keep ur stupidity indoors before u use it and infect ur neighbours. No tribe in edo has any form of relationship with efik...Na only Urhobo n Isoko dem wey una dey close to and those ones go still reject una

Few pages ago I asked an Edo guy what they have in common with Akwa-Cross, absolutely nothing but these Edo people claim we are fanning embers of disunity amongst "brothers"...loo

Logan23:
U fought with pipelines.

Yes, blowing pipelines , oil well and pollution are their tool to fight. Awesome...

When we say these people aren't too intelligent they get offended. The northerners are living peacefully in their region whole these "niger deltans" are celebrating how they damaged their own land...lmao

BornRicch:
I don't want to drag another tribe into this argument. Whatever Efik or Ibibio choose to be the ship will sail for good. Likewise, I have a few Efik and Ibibio friends and they resist you pigs like dead. Yes, we have witch craft likewise, there are witches everywhere in your village dog. You have drug infested rouge in every prison across Asian on death row waiting to be executed or sentenced to life in prison. Your baby factory is everywhere across south east with bastard infested children roaming Nairaland with so much hate and bitterness. I can bet my life take a DNA test you will be a bastard child from your baby factory. Igbos are the new World Trade Centre of Oloshonism, at least we took ours abroad not here in Nigeria. Well, you don't care about Edo people, why'd you know about our human index capital? Please mention your state and let's compare? You're born a slave and it will forever be in your death soul a bloody slave from a carnivorous bloodline. I get it why you can't shout your stinky mouth about Efik and Ibibio because you guys have so much in common eating human... I can't go on because it will spill doom for you before you woke up from your horrible life. I know you're from the South East but I would respond to you since you choose Enuani.. Dude, pray there shouldn't be war because Enuani would not survive the battle......... Just like you cowards blowup the Niger bridge that what gonna happen. For your information Enuani are not Aborigine in Delta State, there are Edos in your Stupid Godforsaken tribe where you said you came from Dog..... I can't wait for that blessed day where everyone would answer his father name...............

This is just sad that a human being sat down to write this twaddle of a deranged mind.

You are nothing but a glorified animal in human flesh. Your Oba , Ovonramen murdered innocent babies for sacrifice to win a war against the British and have the gut to open your bloody mouth. If you don't know you Bini people are eternally enslaved by your Oba. You can't even look him in the eyes like others do....what a degenerate

ken6488:
Agreed OK can you explain to me in detail, what term biafra is?

The name Biafra was born out of self determination. The constituting groups involved agreed on the name unlike Niger Delta the Nigerian government okayed.

ijawcitizen:
You mean the same Aro my forefathers used as errand boys for fetching humanoid chimpanzees? The same Aro that robbed Akwa Akpa from Ibibio in broad daylight Illorin-style? I truly don't blame you, I blame the British for interfering.

This has degenerated into market square bickering. Aro were tradesmen who were partners in trading in human stock with pockets tribes in the coastal areas. Thats all.

I have read all these nonsense you write here out of bitterness and frustration but the truth is that Ijaw have absolutely nothing against Igbo. You can only blow up your oil wells, full stop! If the Igbo ever decide to fight you , it would be disastrous. Time has changed and Igbo of today are too armed to mess with. The Igbo diaspora can singlehandedly fund a war. What do you have other than oil wells which would be blown up and that's the end for you....
You talk like a compound ffool.

In my over 10yrs in the USA I have only met 2 Ijaw. One is a mechanic , another is a grocery store worker who is a single mother. You will hardly see an Ijaw in top Universities.

Only Ikwerre can silence you...you think some ignorant creek criminals will save you....you are so blind.

ken6488:
Most of my life has been in the Niger delta states

Bsyelsea, cross river, edo, delta

Of all the The states all of the lemme say almost all know about warri in delta

And some miscreants here be deceiving there self we don't know our selves

Oga, relax.

Edo nor Delt state has nothing in common with Cross River , for instance. Be it food, look( they look alot like Igbo) , or ideologies. Niger Delta is an administrative term. I thought you had some education.

Akwaibom and River State doesnt have that Niger Delta mentality like Delta , Bayelsa or Rivers.

Logan23:
Bini absorbing over 2 million Anioma people , how many bini dey?

Ijaw absorbing Ikwerre? What is the population of Ijaw vs Ikwerre, I never even add every other tribe in rivers state that are igbo. Igbos in rivers state outnumber ijaw by 7 to 3 so who will absorb who??

Quit the hopeless dream, such can never happen, u are just sharing ur utopia, There is no talk in ijaw land to form their country, there is no talk in ibibio land to form their country....same applies to every other tribe in the SS so how exactly dem go gain independence from Nigeria?

Now , this is very apt. Bini is not up to a million people with a dead language squaring against a very culturally inclined Anioma who speak their language with so much pride.

BKayy:
You don't speak like someone that have lived in Igboland.
Which one is Oliseburuwa?
Maybe you heard Olisa kere ụwa and you think you can manipulate it.
Olisa is a name as it is.
Just type Nwolisa on your search board and stop telling everybody you don't live in SE

So is Emeka , Uche , Obi but all short of a longer name.

My father start prayers with "Osebuluwa nna onye ebele" ....dont teach me my culture. Ask questions. My father is in his 80s...octogenerian

BKayy:
I have never heard anybody seen anybody use deje and Daalụ together
Please we need to stop this we've said a lot.

Example is my mother. She would say deje olu... Meaning great job. Obosi people would also say Nije daalu.

All these things I am teaching is worth money ooo

Logan23:
IDENNA is Juliusmalema

You can do better , nwokem.

BKayy:
Olisa as a name is totally different from Oseburuwa or Osebuluwa as you call it.
Nwosa is short form Nwolisa (my classmate bears this as surname those days)
Okosa =Oke olisa
Like I said before we need to stop this so as not to feed the Bini poachers what they need. They are already hunting for things to manipulate here.
Olisa is actually the God of Creation just like Oseburuwa. Olisa is more used across the entire Igboland especially in Anambra.
Olisa=Chineke=Olisa=Oseburuwa(Onitsha dialect mostly used in Catholic Church)

How would you know, of course you arent from Anambra...lol

Olisa is a short form of Olisebuluwa. This is exhausting.

Nwolosebuwa also Nwachukwu
Nwosa/ Nwa Olisebuluwa
Olisa/Olisebuluwa emeka
Okosa/ Nwoke Olisebuluwa melu mma
Mbosa/ mbelu Olisebuluwa
Osegboo/ Olisebuluwa gbolu ogu
Osakwe/ Olisebuluwa kwelu
Osefo/ Olisebuluwa efolum
Oseloka/ Olisebuluwa eloka(My son's name and many uncles)


This is not enough to cause Igbo disunity. Igbo is still Igbo but very diverse even in looks.

BKayy:
You've said it all. Infact what is spoken in Enu Onitsha is not actually Onitsha dialect. It a dialect formed out of cohabitation of various Igbo groups over the years. It is very different from the original Onitsha dialect and the indigenes will tell you so. It is even modernizing every year. Like recently they included de je, something that is peculiar to Nsukka dialect.
In summary anybody that can understand the new dialect they speak in Igbo cities like Onitsha or the entire Anambra State because there is a way we are interwoven unlike others can understand any kind of dialect in Igboland.
The best is to leave it like that. Don't tag a name to it so as not to bring resistance and allow nature take over

Deje was not imported because it's not exclusive to Nssuka. We say deje daalu which means well done and thank you.

BKayy:
Like I said earlier almost all anambra communities now speak similar dialect but calling it Onitsha dialect to elevate Onitsha above others will cause serious commotion. That is the Anambra State.
Infact the Original Onitsha dialect not what the whole of Anambra state speak now call God Oseburuwa.
What they speak in Anambra state now can be called anambra dialect if you still want peace to reign.

The nomenclature is not so important to me right now. I have used "Omanbala" , "Ideocha", and "Onicha" to identify this Anambra form of speech.

Meanwhile, Osebuluwa not Oseburuwa(Imo copied from Anambra) is rooted in antiquity in Anambra. It doesn't belong to Onicha.
Osegboo
Mbosa
Okosa
Olisa
Nwosa
etc are all ancient in Anambra.

Juliusmalema:
That boy bkayy knows nothing and can claim for the whole universe.

You have to be careful with such characters before you make mistake.

He said he knows oha mmuonwu but renowned Egedege Musician we know goes by the Name Theresa Onuora...and not Theresa Onuoha.

Infact refers to as Theresa Onuora of Unubi...


Over time I have noticed that boy dishes a lot of lies and are not even careful to his own statement. He has no control over his emotions and as such claims what's not Existing..


Those who are not conversant with Unubi might believe that nonsense he wrote. Weigh his words and research before Izofie okpa.

I know these people more than they think. Most of them hail from a certain region of Igbo land. They want to bury our identity but

BKayy:
Nnewi is not in Anambra North but South.
Nri-Awka doesn't have the same dialect with Onitsha. Awka to some extent share the same words with Ezeagu and other Enugu communities.
Just leave this the way it is. All Anambra communities even speak alike but bringing the name of one community to oversee others will make everybody change his mind.
I know my people.
Especially Nnewi can never bow to Onitsha. Even Oba and Obosi that is included in Onitsha metropolis have issues with it

*sigh*

Of course , Nnewi is in Anambra central. I can't you see I know Anambra very well.

Listen to Ajofia Nnewi and tell me whether they sing like Ndi Anambra or Imo. Nnewi is Anambraic, kponkwem!

Give up , please.

iSlayer:
What gives you the impression everybody in Anambra wants to speak with an Onicha tone?

First of all , I am from Idenmili north and a member of many Anambra groups, therefore I would know the sentiments of my people and the way Anambra dialects have transformed to the common form we use across the state.

Additionally, what you know as Onicha tone spoken in Onicha metropolis, Idenmili , and Awka are a naturally developed form of speech. It wasn't manufactured or forced through Igbo unity blackmail.

The union Igbo/Igbo Onicha which was previously in used in the 1930s and 1940s were a combination of Onicha axis dialects and even Enuani. That were Idenmili, Dunukofia, Anaocha, Onicha, Ogbaru , Nnewi, Njikoka, Ekwusigo and the rest of Anambra lects fall into.

BKayy:
Then what will happen to Nnewi dialect, Nri-Awka dialect and dialect of those in Anambra South that is similar to Orlu dialect.
You know no community plays second fiddle to the other in Anambra.
Nnewi and Nri-Awka can never ever bow to Onitsha dialect

If you are familiar with Anambra communities you wouldn't be asking these questions.

Nnewi will follow us , so is Nri-Awka who are Ndi Agbenu like us and speaks similar dialects. The whole Anambra north ,central and large chunk of the South speaks Onicha/Idemmili speak Onicha/Idemmili related dialects.

There is nothing like bowing to anybody here.

htdot:
You are an ibo man trying to cause division among the niger delta on nairaland. The truth remains the niger delta is not part and parcel of Biafra.... Can't you guy agitate for your nation without involving the niger Delta....?

There was never an existing unity amongst Niger Delta between the very diverse communities in that region. You just exist together because Nigeria compels you to stay together. Don't be deceived.

Logan23:
Speak it in onitsha, no one is stopping u.

I want the adoption of Onicha Igbo in Anambra areas as the language of learning. It doesn't affect the Igbo unity agenda which I wholeheartedly support. Egbe belu ugo belu is the most widely used Igbo proverb, put it to use.

Igboid:
There is harmonization towards "Anambra dialect" in entire Anambra state.
I have a relation from Owelle-Ezukala in Orumba South . Ordinarily, Owelle Ezukalla use Okereke in the past, but recently, they have switched to bearing Okeke to key into the "Anambra harmonization" .

I wouldn't be surprised if any Ora related name in Ekwulobia is but a new switch from Oha to Ora in the spirit of "Anambra dialect".
I know a village in Ekwulobia called "IhuOkpala", why is not IruOkpala?

If your observations were correct then we can jointly agree that that Orumba/Ihiala areas have both Anambra and Imo speech forms. In this case , it should be left to them to decide their choice of language. Prove that your Republican views you like to throw around.

BKayy:
Nobody selected any part as central form. All dialects including those from the "confused Igbo" are represented there. You know the Igbo Izugbe was done when we thought they were Igbo.

I am reading that sshit, it's not my lect. I want the return of my elegant Onicha Igbo.

Igboid:
Does Oliver really sing in his local dialect? I think he sang more with centralized Anambra dialect which is more or less a hybrid of Idemili-Onitsha-Dunukofia-Njikoka dialects.

Its like using Ali Chukwuma songs to claim that he was singing in local Aboh dialect.
When everyone knew he was singing in a diluted Aboh dialect with too many Izugbe words to make his music marketable to entire Igbo clans.

Olundi only sounds as agent of disunity. It would have to be deemphasized while Izugbe would be updated and enriched more and thereafter entrenched to replace Olundi in every part of Igbo land.

I also have a friend from Ezinifite and Unubi and no , Oha is not their standard way of speaking.

Igboid:
All dialects would have to be sacrificed for Igbo unity in republic of Igbo land.

Ora in Ekwuluobia? I doubt.

You don't have the final say on that , cut that senseless authoritative behaviour.

In case you don't know there are works in the pipeline to bring back the Igbo Onicha. Get it in your head!

Edit: I have cousin from Ekwuluobia and I have spent time in Isuofia. They have Ora names.

Logan23:
Sonso Eze ndi ala ga echekwa na ibu onye igbo.

So , if you were asked if all Igbo people reason alike , have the same world views and ideologies your answer would be yes, indeed. In light of this your stance how do you explain the hallowed claim that Igbo are Republicans by nature ? You guys are worse than the Yoruba , Hausa and even the Ijaw.

cheruv:
Na-ekwu ihe doro gị anya..
Why do you think that Owere dialect was chosen as the basis for Standard igbo It is bkos aside Anambra, all the other igbo states speak Owere in one form or the other.

Cc. cheruv

I don't have any issues with the selection of Imo/Abia as central Igbo form of communication but have you thought about what it's doing to other forms of Igbo ? Don't you think it's stifling other lects like the Onicha/Idemmili axis?

Personally, I want adoption of many speech forms like Nsukka, Onicha etc as a standard speech form , thereby making others to not feel excluded.

Igboid:
If you were Igbo. You would have known that Ohanaeze is more balanced than Oraneze.

Aguata, Orumba South and Orumba North in Anambra use Oha.

The whole IMO and Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi use Oha.

While Anambra central and North, as well as Enuani use Ora.

Ndokwa/Ukwuani use Osa.

Etche Ikwerre, Ndoki, ASA use Oha.

The Ezza clan in Benue, Umuezekoha also use Oha.

From the foregoing, it is obvious that at least 4/5 of Igbo speaking people use Oha.

I have seen precolonial names with "ora" in that axis of Aguata/Ekwuluobia homeland. Don't make sweeping comments like this because it's miseducates people.

Now , I will not sacrifice my speech form in the alter of Igbo unity. We need like 10 Igbo dictionary.