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Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed Contradicts Himself, Says 3 Different Things On The Same Topic by Ifeann(op): 8:53pm On Jan 20, 2015
gatiano:
Ifeann, you are right back with the usual stuffs. i'm not hating. But did muslims do to you? were /are you a victim of boko-devils. Hate is a big thing to abhor, it destroys, especially when you hate without a concrete reason.
Hey buddy. . Long time. .. hope u are good. ... look ..i am not not hating. . I but i do detest Islam. ..And it breaks my heart so many have been decieved by it. .. it has brought so much evil to the world. .i just saw a video where some sect of Islam aassassinated over 10 other Muslims in a mosque during prayers because they were from a different sect. .Do you know that muslims are selling christains, kurds, yadizis, even rival sunnis etc as sex slaves in Syria and Iraq as of this year. They do this because their prophet did it. ..islam is a problem .the more we speak abt it the more people renounce it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed Contradicts Himself, Says 3 Different Things On The Same Topic by Ifeann(op): 12:19pm On Jan 20, 2015
PastorKun:
Would care to explain to us how a man who lived by the sword and has inspired so much bloodshed through out history and whose morality falls far far below acceptable human standards arrive at being the best man ever createdhuh What exactly about him makes him a good man talkless of being labelled the "best"
But pastorkun , have u forgotten, Mohammed said allah ( his imaginery ) told him he is the best example for Muslims to follow. ..could he lie, didnt he say he was a prophet. smiley
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 12:13pm On Jan 20, 2015
ShakurM:
and why do they convert?
For several reasons but the common denominator is the falsehood of Islam. ...


Muslims aren't necessarily evil,
but Islam itself and its founder the false Prophet Muhammad
certainly are evil.
I implore all Muslims to research and to find the light and leave the
wickedness that is Islam.

Watch this to enlighten yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl641IFO10g

This ex-Muslim testifies to the evils of his former religion. He is Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of Hamas leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef, and former Muslim youth leader. He is a former Muslim, converted to Christianity who is speaking from personal experience and knowledge of the evil of Islam and is thus denouncing it and
warning the children of God about the horror and evil that is spreading across the globe.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed Contradicts Himself, Says 3 Different Things On The Same Topic by Ifeann(op): 10:30am On Jan 20, 2015
Muslims believe that the Qur'ancontains a message from an all-powerful, all-knowing, infallible being. If this is true then it should not contain any errors, mistakes, or information that contradicts known facts about the universe. If even one error exists in the text of Islam's holy book then the claims of divine authorship and infallibility are not true. An objective evaluation of the Qur’an shows that it contains numerous scientificand historical errors and it reflects a pre-scientific, 7thcentury view of the natural world.
Some apologists will contest these numerous scientific errors in the Qur'an by appealing to metaphor, alternative meanings, or phenomenologicalinterpretations of the text. Even if we suppose that alternative explanations were possible in every case, the wording and content of the Qur'anic verses often mimic the popular mythology and unscientific misconceptions of the time in which they were recorded. The author of the Qur’an makes no clear or unambiguous statements that differentiate his understanding of the natural world from the common folklore of the people living in the 7thcentury. If the Qur’an was delivered by an all-powerful, all-knowing being then he would have been able to foresee how such ambiguous and misleading statements would be understood by future generations and the doubts and confusions they would cause. This alone should be reason to reject any claims to its divine authorship.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mohammed Contradicts Himself, Says 3 Different Things On The Same Topic by Ifeann(op): 9:36am On Jan 20, 2015
balash:
A mathematics textbook which said 2+2= 4 Also said 3+1= 4 and 4+0= 4

Clay,Water and blood all are what makes a man.

You people won't stop amazing us, what's really your problem and joy you find in insulting the Prophet muhammed everytime?

How many topic have u seen about a muslim dude insulting jesus? We respect jesus so much and we also respect the prophet Muhammed because he is the best of man ever created.

The way you people keeps insulting and going through your fake achives in just tanishing the prophets name is alarming, the fact stands that Prophet muhammed is the messenger of Allah as well as Jesus.

Continue soiling your brains in finding Dirts to stain the Prophet and May The Good Lord Forgive you All Only when you know A life without Allah And The Sacred One Prophet muhammed is a life not worthy.

May the peace of the lord be upon you
Don't u see the obvious error in your false mathematical analogy... he said "from ", created man "from", then he said "out of"... so your analogy is as false as Islam. .. no where does Mohammed say allah created man "with" clay, water and blood combined together. .. this would have supported ur analogy but Mohammed did nt think of it. ..

Pls no one insulted your prophet here, you Qur'an and hadiths in particular is filed with his sexual activities. ..shalom my brother in humanity
Christianity Etc › Re: Christianity Is Delutional by Ifeann(f): 8:39am On Jan 20, 2015
Hello friend...I won't even bother to correct you on your ignorant rant here....[size=16pt]you can't even spell delusional, the error in the title of your topic says all i need to know about you[/size]..
Christianity Etc › Mohammed Contradicts Himself, Says 3 Different Things On The Same Topic by Ifeann(op): 8:30am On Jan 20, 2015
Caveat:
Please refrain from insulting Muslims while commenting. It is not polite and it is a distraction; by extension Muslims please be civilised in your refutation while commenting. You may share your thoughts or contribute to the topic and cite passages to disprove or support the commentary below. You may use any appropriate term or word as long as it is backed up by facts.

Obviously, Islam's Allah was not the God, whom the Jews and Christians worship as their God.
Every word of the Quran was Muhammad's own, which he put on the tongue of his imaginary friend Allah (AKA Muhammad). (for confirmation of the verses visit the quran.com or any PRO-Islamic website which quotes or complies verses or ask any open-minded Muslim near you).

*******************************************************
Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon the Qur'an which has several internal contradictions. Any revelation from God will be consistent within itself. It will not contain internal contradictions. Since the Qur'an
does contain internal contradictions, it cannot be from God, and any religion that is based upon it is not from God.


Mohammed fabricated and then compiled the quran in just about 2 decades however the glaring contradictions on his statements leave little doubt about the flasehood of Islam.. he had enough time to get his story straight but unfortunately between sleeping with 9 year old aisha, his other wives and numerous sex slaves he didn't find the time to correct the numerous contradictions and abrogations found in the quran.. here is a very important and simple example .....


The Qur'an says that man was created from a clot of blood.
Qur'an 96:1. Proclaim (or Read) In the Name Of thy Lord and
Cherisher, Who created- 2. Created man out of A (mere) clot Of
congealed blood;

In other verses he changes his story, Then the Qur'an says that man was created from was created from
clay.
Qur'an 6:2 (Also 7:12) 2. He it is Who created You from clay, and
then Decreed a stated term (For you). And there is In His Presence
another Determined term; yet Ye doubt within yourselves!

Mohammed being the lair that he is goes on to change his story yet again, The Qur'an then says that man was created from was created from
water.

Qur'an 25:54. It is He Who has Created man from water: Then has He
established Relationships of lineage And marriage: for thy Lord Has
power (over all things).

These are internal contradictions that indicate the origin of
the Qur'an was not the mind of God, but the mind of man,
Muhammad. A man who led constantly and made up stories as he pleased. ..

Please muslims can u explain this. .
Christianity Etc › Re: Breaking!!!!niger Protesters Torched 45 Churches - Police by Ifeann(f): 12:58am On Jan 20, 2015
That's the religion of "peace" for you. ...
Christianity Etc › Re: Ashtray by Ifeann(f): 12:55am On Jan 20, 2015
usermane:
I think that concerns traditional Muslims like. I believe Hadith are lacking in Historical authenticity and Quranic validity, hence i don't buy Hadith. I have explained that to you in the past. Those 'authentic sources' which you cite against Muhammad also teach Muhammad performed several miracles like splitting the moon, do you believe that?



There were several corrupt rulers of Arabia after Muhammad. They needed justification for their crimes of killing their opposers. Hence, they employed phony scholars or clerics to fabricate the Hadith you are referring.
My friend i have to be honest with you after reading your sources and listening to scholars discuss this issue i can submit to you that if a Muslim rejects the hadiths he or she rejects Islam and ceases to be a muslim. ... this is one point i will side with Muslims that berate u on this forum. .in some Muslim countries u will be branded a herectic or apostate and killed. ...

Here are some of my reasons why ucan't eject the hadiths. ..
As a muslim How do you knw how to pray and how many times... it's the hadith that tells you

How do you know what to pay as zakat ....it's the hadith that tells you

So many verses of the quran lacks context unless u read the hadiths a popular verse is sura 1: 11..it's the hadith that tells you

Your quran tells you in sura 23:31 to copy the life of Mohammed as the example to follow, Mohammeds name is only mentioned 4 times in the quran. .very little of Mohammed is described therein ... so how do u learn the examples of his deeds and to live like Mohammed . ...it's the hadith that tells you

How do you know the shahadda..To become a muslim u must speak the shahadda...it's the hadith that tells you


U can't deny the hadith. .a lot of Muslims reject the hadith because they are embarrassed by the deeds of Mohammed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 12:24am On Jan 20, 2015
ShakurM:
What can we learn from this biko?
The intention is to show Muslims that want to leave Islam that they can do it. . Millions did it last year.. many more will apostatasize this year. .
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 12:20am On Jan 20, 2015
SalC:
I really pity this Saeed guy who has been in detention for years now and his only crime was his conversion to christianity. I pray God to strengthen him and the Iranian government should stop detaining and torturing people for leaving Islam.

http://mohabatnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5972:iranian-american-pastor-arrested-imprisoned-in-evin-prison&catid=36:iranian-christians&Itemid=279
Its so sad but i believe God will use saeeds story to expose the disease that is islam and drive more Muslims to become ex Muslims and join the way truth and life in christ.
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 12:18am On Jan 20, 2015
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George Weah – Liberian soccer player (from Christianity to Islam back
to Christianity). [222]
Ari Wibowo – Indonesian actor, model and singer. [223][224]
Sigi Wimala – Indonesian model and actress, converted to Catholicism
after marriage. [225][226]
Wu'erkaixi – Uyghur dissident known for his leading role during the
Tiananmen protests of 1989 .[227][228]
Ibrahim Tunggul Wulung – Indonesian evangelist and missionary. [229]
[230]
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Muley Xeque – (Arabic: ﻣﻮﻻﻱ ﺍﻟﺸﻴﺦ Mawlay al-Shaykh) was a Moroccan
prince, born in Marrakech in 1566. Exiled in Spain , he was converted to
Roman Catholicism in Madrid and was known as Philip of Africa or
Philip of Austria. [231]
Y
Yadegar Moxammat of Kazan – last khan of Kazan Khanate .[32]
Mosab Hassan Yousef – son of a Hamas leader.[232]
Ramzi Yousef – Al Qaeda member and the main participant in the 1993
World Trade Center bombing and The Bojinka plot .[233][234]
Nania Kurniawati Yusuf – Indonesian singer, finalist of the first
season to Indonesian Idol , 2004. [235][236]
The Clan Yusupov – noble family of Tatar descent down the Khans of
the Nogai Horde , convert to Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the 17th
century. [237]
Z
Zaida of Seville – born an Iberian Muslim. When Seville fell to the
Almoravids, she fled to the protection of Alfonso VI of Castile,
becoming his mistress, converting to Christianity and taking the
baptismal name of Isabel. [238]
Asmirandah Zantman – Indonesian actress of Dutch descent converted
to the Protestant faith in December 2013. Zantman owes her
conversion to an experience of having dreamed three times of Jesus
Christ . [239][240][241][242]
Zayd Abu Zayd – the last Almohad governor of Valencia, Spain . Abu
Zayd remained a loyal ally of James I , and in 1236 he converted to
Roman Catholicism, adopting the name of Vicente Bellvis, a fact which
he however kept secret until the fall of Valencia. [243]
Saye Zerbo – President of the Republic of Upper Volta (now Burkina
Faso ). [244]
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 7:12pm On Jan 18, 2015
Youcef Nadarkhani – Iranian Christian pastor who has been sentenced
to death for apostasy.[150]
Nagma – Indian actress and sister to Jyothika .[151][152]
Diana Nasution – Indonesian singer, converted to Protestantism after
marriage. [153][154]
Aurelius and Natalia – (died 852) were Christian martyrs who were put
to death during the reign of Abd ar-Rahman II, Emir of Córdoba, and
are counted among the Martyrs of Córdoba. Aurelius was the son of a
Muslim father and a Christian mother. He was also secretly a follower
of Christianity, as was his wife Natalia, who was also the child of a
Muslim father. [155]
Marina Nemat – Canadian author of Iranian descent and former
political prisoner of the Iranian government. Born into a Christian
family, she converted to Islam in order to avoid execution but later
reverted to Christianity. [156]
Ibrahim Njoya – Bamum king; back and forth conversions from Islam
to Christianity .[157]
Nunilo and Alodia – were a pair of child martyrs from Huesca. Born of
a mixed marriage, they eschewed the Islam of their father in favor of
their mother's Christianity. [158]
Rashid Nurgaliyev – Russian politician and general convert to Russian
Orthodoxy. [159][160]
O
Malika Oufkir – a Moroccan writer and daughter of General Mohamed
Oufkir. She and her siblings are converts from Islam to Catholicism,
and she writes in her book, Stolen Lives , "we had rejected Islam, which
had brought us nothing good, and opted for Catholicism
instead." [161]
P
Shams Pahlavi – Iranian princess and the elder sister of Mohammad
Reza Pahlavi , Shah of Iran .[162]
Hamid Pourmand – former Iranian army colonel and lay leader of the
Jama'at-e Rabbani , the Iranian branch of the Assemblies of God
church in Iran .[163]
Agni Pratistha – Indonesian actress, model and former beauty queen
(elected Puteri Indonesia 2006), converted to Catholicism after
marriage, although what is initially denied rumors of conversion. [164]
[165][166]
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Pierre Rabhi – born in Kenadsa , Algeria in 1938. Originally a Muslim, he
converted to Christianity for some years before rejecting all religions.
[167]
Daud Rahbar – Pakistani scholar of Comparative religions, composer,
short story writer, translator, philosopher, contributor to inter-
civilization dialogue, musicologist, drummer, singer and guitarist. [168]
[169]
Abdul Rahman – Afghan convert to Christianity who escaped the
death penalty because of foreign pressure. [170]
Brother Rachid – a Moroccan Christian convert from Islam . He is one
of the most outspoken converts in the world, he hosts a weekly live
call-in show on AL-Hayat channel where he compares Islam and
Christianity. [171][172]
Majeed Rashid Mohammed – a Kurdish Christian convert from Islam.
He established a network with former Kurdish Muslims with about 2,000
members today.[173]
Stefan Razvan – Gypsy prince who ruled Moldavia for six months in
1595. [174]
James Riady – Indonesian businessman, deputy chairman of the Lippo
Group , and son of Mochtar Riady . [175][176]
Emily Ruete – (born Sayyida Salme) Princess of Zanzibar and Oman .
[177][178][179]
Ibrahim Rugova – first president of Kosovo , converted to Roman
Catholicism and baptized in the name of Pierre.
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 7:11pm On Jan 18, 2015
Sabatina James – (1982 in Dhedar, Pakistan) is an Austrian - Pakistani
book author. She started a new life in Vienna , changing her name and
converting to Catholicism where she was baptized in 2006. [107]
Esther John – a Pakistani Christian nurse. [108] She is counted in ten
most famous Christian martyrs of the present day.
Lina Joy – a Malay convert from Islam to Christianity. Born Azlina
Jailani in 1964 in Malaysia to Muslim parents of Javanese descent, she
converted at age 26. In 1998, she was baptized, and applied to have her
conversion legally recognized by the Malaysian courts. [109]
Don Juan of Persia – (1560–1604) a late 16th- and early 17th-century
figure in Iran and Spain . He is also known as Faisal Nazary. He was a
native of Iran , who later moved westward. He settled in Spain where
he became a Roman Catholic. [110]
K
Alina Kabaeva – a Russian gymnast. [111][112][113]
Jesse of Kakheti – a Georgian prince of the Bagrationi dynasty , son of
King Leon of Kakheti converted to Islam in the Service of the Safavid
dynasty , but returned to Orthodox Christianity after his return to
Georgia .[114]
Jesse of Kartli – a Georgian prince of the Bagrationi dynasty (from
Christianity to Islam back to Christianity). [115]
Alexander Kazembek – Russian Orientalist, historian and philologist of
Azeri origin . [116]
Mathieu Kérékou- President of Benin (from Christianity to Islam back
to Christianity). [117]
Chulpan Khamatova – Russian actress .[118][119]
Ilyas Khan – born in Britain to a Muslim family, by the age of 18 or 19,
Khan began to question his Muslim faith. Khan was attracted to the
practices of traditional Catholicism and an important contribution to
his faith was through regular attendance, over a decade prior to his
formal conversion.
Kitty Kirkpatrick – born in India and brought up as Shia Muslim.
Mekki Kuku – a Sudanese teacher condemned to death for apostasy
1998. [120][121]
Emir Kusturica – a Serbian and Yugoslavian filmmaker and actor. [122]
[123]
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Imad ud-din Lahiz – prolific Islamic writer, preacher and Qur'anic
translator. [124]
Miguel Layún – Mexican footballer whose parents converted to
Christianity after escaping from Lebanon .
Fernão Lopes (soldier) – a 16th-century Portuguese soldier in India
who converted to Roman Catholicism .
Dr. Nur Luke – Uyghur Bible translator. [125]
M
Enrique de Malaca – Malay slave of Ferdinand Magellan , converted to
Roman Catholicism after being purchased in 1511. [126][127]
Sake Dean Mahomed – (born Sheikh Din Muhammad) an Indian
traveller, surgeon and entrepreneur who introduced the Indian take-
away curry house restaurant in Britain , and was the first Indian to
have written a book in the English language .[128][129]
Pinkan Mambo – (born Pinkan Ratnasari Mambo) Indonesian singer
converted in 2010. Decision taken after admitting she studied various
religions of the world and eventually dropped in awe of Jesus Christ .
[130][131][132]
Fadhma Aït Mansour – mother of French writers Jean Amrouche and
Taos Amrouche .[133]
Roy Marten – (born Wicasksono Abdul Salam) Indonesian actor whose
family was converted to Roman Catholicism during his childhood but
who converted converted later to Indonesian Ortodoxy in 1997. [134]
[135][136]
Abdul Masih – an Indian indigenous missionary, an ordained Anglican
and Lutheran minister. [137][138]
Josef Mässrur – (born Ghäsim Khan) missionary to Chinese Turkestan
with the Mission Union of Sweden. [139]
Rajah Matanda – also known by "Rajah Ache", the king of Maynila, a
pre-Hispanic Philippine kingdom in the northern Philippines in the Pasig
River area of the island of Luzon and one of the three kings of Manila ,
requested to be converted to Roman Catholicism amid illness, the uncle
of Rajah Suleyman .
Carlos Menem – former President of Argentina . Raised a Nusayri but
converted to Roman Catholicism, a constitutional requirement for
accessing the presidency until 1994. [140]
Mizse – last Palatine of King Ladislaus IV of Hungary in 1290. He was
born in a Muslim family in Tolna County in the Kingdom of Hungary,
but he converted to Roman Catholicism. [141]
Hajji Husman Mohamed – a former Ethiopian Muslim converted with his
family to Orthodox Christianity in 2003. [142][143]
St. George El Mozahem – a Coptic saint.[144][145][146]
Yadegar Moxammat of Kazan – last Khan of Kazan Khanate. [32]
Muhsin Muhammad – current American football player for the Carolina
Panthers , raised in a Muslim household, later converted to Christianity.
[147]
Paul Mulla – Turkish scholar and professor of Islamic Studies at the
Pontifical Oriental Institute .[148]
Sayed Mussa – (also spelled Said Musa) An Afghan citizen sentenced to
death for apostasy but released to February 2011. [149]
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 7:09pm On Jan 18, 2015
Bahaa el-Din Ahmed Hussein el-Akkad – Egyptian former Muslim
sheikh who theological discourse with a Christian led him to conduct an
intensive study of Christian Scripture, after which he converted to
Christianity in January 2005. [70]
Soraya Esfandiary-Bakhtiari – the second wife and Queen Consort of
Mohammad Reza Pahlavi , the late Shah of Iran who converted to
Roman Catholicism .[71]
Antonio Espares – Filipino worker based in Libya , beheaded for
apostasy in 2014 (from Christianity to Islam back to Christianity). [72]
[73]
Estevanico – Berber originally from Morocco and one of the early
explorers of the Southwestern United States. [74]
Gulshan Esther – Pakistani convert from Islam to Christianity. [75]
F
Joseph Fadelle – (born Mohammed al-Sayyid al-Moussawi), is a Roman
Catholic convert from Islam and a writer born in 1964 in Iraq in a
Shiite family. [76]
Donald Fareed – Iranian Christian tele-evangelist and minister. [77]
Hazem Farraj – an Palestinian-American writer, minister, and
televangelist. [78]
Jacob Frank – 18th-century Jewish religious leader who claimed to be
the reincarnation of the self-proclaimed messiah Sabbatai Zevi , and
also of King David . Frank publicly converted to Islam in 1757 and later
to Christianity at Poland in 1759, but actually presented himself as
the Messiah of a syncretic derivation of Shabbatai Zevi's Messianism
now referred to as Frankism .[79]
G
Mark A. Gabriel - Egyptian Islamic scholar and writer. [80]
Daveed Gartenstein-Ross - counter-terrorism expert and attorney
(from Judaism to Islam to Christianity). [81][82]
Akbar Gbaja-Biamila – a former American football linebacker who
currently works as a sports analyst for NBC and NFL Network who
converted to Christianity from Islam.
Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila – an American football defensive end who was
drafted by the Green Bay Packers and is currently a free agent.
George XI of Kartli – a Georgian monarch who ruled Eastern Georgia
from 1676 to 1688 and again from 1703 to 1709. Being an Eastern
Orthodox Christian, he converted to Islam prior to his appointment as
governor of Qandahar. He later converted to Roman Catholicism. [83]
Fathia Ghali - Egyptian princess and youngest daughter of Fuad I of
Egypt and Nazli Sabri .[84][85]
Ghias ad-din – an Azeri prince of the Seljuk dynasty of Rum , convert
to Eastern Orthodox Christianity .[86]
Ruffa Gutierrez – Filipina actress, model and former beauty queen
(from Christianity to Islam back to Christianity). [87][88][89]
H
Umar ibn Hafsun – leader of anti- Ummayad dynasty forces in
southern Iberia . Hafsun converted to Christianity with his sons and
ruled over several mountain valleys for nearly forty years, having the
castle Bobastro as his residence. [90]
Naveed Afzal Haq – Pakistani - American charged for the July 2006
Seattle Jewish Federation shooting . He converted to Christianity in
December 2005 but reverted to Islam by the time of the shooting.[91]
Khalif Majid Hassan – former African American Islamic Preacher,
Minister in the Nation of Islam (from Christianity to Islam back to
Christianity). [92]
Rajah Humabon – first Filipino Sultan convert to Roman Catholicism in
the name of Carlos. [93][94]
Mohammed Hegazy – first Egyptian Muslim convert to Christianity to
seek official recognition of his conversion from the Egyptian
Government. Hegazy was forced into hiding because of threats
related to his conversion.
Aben Humeya – (born Fernando de Valor) Morisco Chief who was
crowned the Emir of Andalusia by his followers and led the Morisco
Revolt against Philip II of Spain .[95]
I
Ubayd-Allah ibn Jahsh – brother of Zaynab bint Jahsh , the wife of
Muhammad and one of the male Sahaba (companions of the Prophet).
[96]
Tunch Ilkin – former American football player. [97]
Nasir Isiaku – former member of the Islamic sect Boko Haram .[98][99]
Mariam Yahia Ibrahim Ishag – a Sudanese woman condemned to death
for apostasy 2013, but released to June 2014. [100]
Raden Iskak – Indonesian teacher, soldier, director, and composer
converted to Catholicism in the name of Robert .[101][102]
Jessica Iskandar – Indonesian actress and model (from Christianity to
Islam back to Christianity). [103][104]
Qadry Ismail – former American football player. [105]
Raghib Ismail – former American football player. [106]
Christianity Etc › Re: Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 7:08pm On Jan 18, 2015
Josephine Bakhita – Roman Catholic saint from Darfur , Sudan. [28]
Sarah Balabagan – Filipina prisoner in the United Arab Emirates
during 1994 – 96. [29]
Fathima Rifqa Bary – American teenager of Sri Lankan descent who
drew international attention in 2009 when she ran away from home and
claimed that her Muslim parents might kill her for having converted to
Christianity. [30]
Sheikh Ahmed Barzani – head of Barzani Tribe in Iraqi Kurdistan and
older brother of Mustafa Barzani, Kurdish nationalist leader. He
announced his conversion to Christianity in 1931 during the anti-
government uprising. [31]
Bayano – an African Mandika enslaved by Spaniards who led the
biggest of the slave revolts of 16th-century Panama. The Mandikas
were predominantly Muslim and Bayano was baptized as a devout
Christian.
Simeon Bekbulatovich – Khan of Qasim Khanate .[32]
Alexander Bekovich-Cherkassky – Russian officer of Circassian origin
who led the first Russian military expedition into Central Asia.[33]
Ibrahim Ben Ali – soldier, physician, and one of the earliest American
settlers of Turkish origin. [34]
Mohammed Christophe Bilek – an Algerian former Muslim who lives in
France since 1961. Bilek was baptized in 1970. In the 1990s, he founded
the Our Lady of Kabyle (in French), a website devoted to
evangelisation among Muslims.[35]
Francis Bok – Sudanese- American activist, convert to Islam from
Christianity; but later returned to his Christian faith. [36]
Jean-Bédel Bokassa – Central African Republic Emperor (from
Christianity to Islam back to Christianity). [37]
Dr.Thomas Yayi Boni – President of Benin .[38]
Sayed Borhan khan – Khan of Qasim Khanate from 1627 to 1679. [32]
Broery – Indonesian singer (from Protestantism to Islam back to
Protestantism). [39][40]
Nur Aishah Bukhari – a Malay , converted and baptized in October 1997
to Roman Catholicism, being sought by the Malaysian justice to have
been recognized guilty of apostasy.[41][42]
C
Rianti Cartwright – Indonesian actress, model, presenter and VJ. Two
weeks before departure to the United States to get married, Rianti
left the Muslim faith to become a baptized Catholic with the name
Sophia Rianti Rhiannon Cartwright.[43][44]
Kassian Cephas – Indonesian photographer.[45][46]
Chamillionaire – (born Hakeem Seriki) American rapper. [47][48]
Djibril Cissé – French international footballer. [49][50]
Hansen Clarke – the U.S. Representative for Michigan's 13th
congressional district .[51]
Eldridge Cleaver – initially associated with the Nation of Islam then
Evangelical Christianity then Mormonism. [52][53]
Constantine the African – Baghdad -educated Muslim who died in 1087
as a Christian monk at Monte Cassino.[54][55]
Converso – substantial numbers of Iberian Muslims were converted to
Christianity. These New Christians of Moorish Berber origin were
known as Moriscos . Over 1 million of these Moriscos were converted
from Islam to Christianity. [56]
Michał Czajkowski – Polish - Cossack writer and political emigre who
worked both for the resurrection of Poland and the reestablishment
of a Cossack Ukraine.[57]
D
Moussa Dadis Camara – ex-officer of the Guinean army .[58][59]
Justinus Darmojuwono – the first Indonesian Cardinal of the Roman
Catholic Church. He served as Archbishop of Semarang from 1963 to
1981, and was elevated to the cardinalate in 1967. Converted to
Catholicism in 1932.[60]
Nonie Darwish – an Egyptian - American writer, human rights activist,
critic of Islam,founder of Arabs for Israel, and is Director of Former
Muslims United .[61]
Sedar Dedeoglu – a Turk who claims to be a descendant of Islam's
prophet Muhammad has converted to Christianity while living in
Germany .[62]
Hassan Dehqani-Tafti – the first ethnic Persian to become a Christian
bishop of Iran since the 7th century and the Islamic conquest of
Persia . [63]
Mehdi Dibaj – Iranian Christian convert from Sunni Islam , pastor and
Christian martyr .[64][65]
Momolu Dukuly – Liberian politician became the second foreign minister
under William V.S. Tubman.[66][67]
Daniel Bambang Dwi Byantoro – leader (and Archimandrite) of the
Indonesian Orthodox Church .[68][69]
Christianity Etc › Notable Converts To Christianity From Islam by Ifeann(op): 7:07pm On Jan 18, 2015
Aslan Abashidze – former leader of the Ajarian Autonomous Republic
in western Georgia .[6]
Basuki Abdullah – Indonesian painter converted to Roman Catholicism .
[7]
Ibrahim Abdullah – American former PLO terrorist. [8]
Saeed Abedini – an Iranian- American Christian pastor imprisoned in
Iran . [9]
Abo of Tiflis – Christian activist and the Patron Saint of the city of
Tbilisi , Georgia. [1]
Taysir Abu Saada – a former member of the PLO and the founder of
the Christian ministry Hope For Ishmael after he converted to
Christianity. He was Yasir Arafat 's personal driver. [10][11]
Abraham of Bulgaria – martyr and saint of the Russian Orthodox
Church .[12]
Rotimi Adebari - first Black mayor in Ireland.[13]
St. Adolphus – Christian martyr who was put to death along with his
brother, John, by Abd ar-Rahman II , Caliph of Córdoba for apostasy.
[14]
Leo Africanus – a Moorish diplomat and author who was baptized in the
Basilica of Saint Peter's in 1520.
Safdar Ali – former Maulvi (Cleric) from India. [15][16]
Mehmet Ali Ağca – Turkish assassin who murdered left-wing journalist
Abdi İpekçi on 1 February 1979 and later shot and wounded Pope John
Paul II on 13 May 1981. While in prison in 2007 he claimed to convert to
Christianity. [17]
Jabalah ibn al-Aiham – last ruler of the Ghassanid state in Syria and
Jordan in the 7th century AD. After the Islamic conquest of Levant he
converted to Islam in AD 638. He reverted to Christianity later on and
lived in Anatolia until he died in AD 645. [18]
Daniel Ali – an Iraqi Kurdish author, speaker and Former Kurdish
Muslim Scholar (Ulama/Mullah). In September 1995, he became a born-
again Christian and became an Iraqi Roman Catholic, and thereafter
commenced his writings on Islam. [19]
Magdi Allam (baptized as Magdi Cristiano Allam ) – Italy's most
famous Islamic affairs journalist. [4]
Zachariah Anani – former Sunni Muslim Lebanese militia fighter. [20]
Hussain Andaryas – Afghan Christian activist and tele-evangelist. [21]
Melissa Ariani – Indonesian model and presenter TV, converted to
Protestantism after marriage. [22][23]
Matthew Ashimolowo – Nigerian -born British pastor and evangelist.
[24]
Avraamy Aslanbegov – a Russian - Azeri vice-admiral and military
writer of the Russian Empire , converted to Eastern Orthodox
Christianity . [25]
Aurelius and Natalia – Christian martyrs who were put to death during
the reign of Abd ar-Rahman II, Caliph of Córdoba for apostasy. [26]
Johannes Avetaranian – (born Muhammad Shukri Efendi), Christian
missionary and Turkish descendant of Muhammad .[27]
Asmirandah - Indonesian actress, converted to Christianity after her
controversial marriage to Jonas Rivanno, Indonesian actor.
Christianity Etc › Re: Ashtray by Ifeann(f): 6:06pm On Jan 18, 2015
Empiree:
Honestly, you dont get it. Mainstream media would say satirical magazine cartoonist was killed along with 11 others. It was alternative media that spoke about muslim officer among the victims. It was only recently it was briefly shown on tv abou a muslim guy who help prevent attack on jewish place. I see him inerviewed. Anything else as you want me to believe is utter nonsense.

Besides, no muslim should apoligise for crime someone commited. Others commit crimes too and no one apologized for it exept maybe relatives. I owe no one apology. The criminals are killed and thats it. Game over. Coming after muslim cus of that is unjust and irrelivant. When Richard Reid, the shoe bomber blow up soomething, all richards in the world do not go out apologizing for that.
Apparently u have u "facts" muddled up...firstly, i heard about the Muslim police officer on the second day from the main stream media. ..i even heard on cnn, that the terrorists are unIslamic because they killed a Muslim from a field reporter of cnn... i tot the reporter was foolish because how would the terrorist know the man they just murdered was a muslim. .... i wonder why cnn tried to distance the terrorists from Islam. .

it wasn't long before that brave muslim man was covered in all the head lines for his heroism..it wasnt hidden and i even saw him on the news today, "free secular western france" has praised the Muslim man as a hero and he is getting his citizenship for his effort. . so my dear you are very incorrect about media bias....at least on this incident. .

Then u went on to say u won't apologized for the crimes of other Muslim. .. when did i Say u should. . When did i raise this topic. ..i personally think no Muslim should apologize for the crimes of another Muslim. No family should be berated for the crimes of their (adult)kin .. however i submit that muslims should always condemn the crimes of Muslim terrorists like western Muslims often do and not praise terrorism like alot of Muslims in the middle east and africa do... Your doctrine and traditions in Islam is also a big problem and muslims have to do something about it...

When a muslim like the op brings up the issues with Islam other Muslims disparage him. .how can u defeat islamic terrorism with that mindset. ..
Christianity Etc › Re: Ashtray by Ifeann(f): 5:18pm On Jan 18, 2015
Empiree:
I am done with you ma'am or sir.
Yes when the glaring truth is presented to a muslim , (s) he runs away..its ok.. just don't tell more lies. .
Christianity Etc › Re: Ashtray by Ifeann(f):
Empiree:
Sorry, we live world apart. Where i live, it was the opposite. Pls, read btw the lines. Thanks
Wow so u don't get satellite tv were u are. .. why should i read between the lines. . What's your point. .u lied foolishly and i called u out on it. ..i hate it when u Muslims attack another Muslim for saying the truth. .u are making up a silly and false point to discredit the op and i wont accept it. ..
Christianity Etc › Re: Ashtray by Ifeann(f): 4:57pm On Jan 18, 2015
usermane:
Is Honour greater than Life?

Charlie Hebdo shooters and sympathizers justify their stance as defending Muhammad 's honour. It is difficult to fathom how killing has defended Muhammad 's honour. It think nothing violates Muhammad 's honour than his followers shedding blood indiscriminately as the shooters have done. Each time Muhammad has been 'defamed', the Muslim reaction has been bloody. Danish Cartoons and Salman Rushdie 's Satanic Verses comes to mind here.

We don't need to ask before we realize the relevance of Charlie Hebdo shooting in Paris to honour killings in Islamabad. As Muslim scholars declare death for any defamer, condemner or naysayer of Muhammad, they are ruling that sometimes, honour is more sacred thn life. In adherence to such teachings, Charlie Hebdo and his colleagues paid with their life. And several Muslims in the Middle east are paying with their life for dishonouring their families today.
My brother in humanity, i have read your write up and i think u made several excellent points. ..i don't agree with all of them tho..
i think joint prayers are pretentious, i also think that mentioning Mohammed in prayer is blasphemy. . He is dead and can't hear anybody. ..even if you Muslims calm he is in Paradise(which he is not) , why would he hear when he is busy having sex with 72 virgins. Please i mean no offense because i am saying it based on information from the bible and even the quran and hadith. ..

One idea u got wrong is on the killing of the cartoonists of Mohammed. Mohammed had several people killed for mocking him or criticizing him... according to your hadiths he approved of the murder of an old man in his 100s for writing a poem about Islam and he called for the eventual butchering of a breastfeeding mother in front of her kids... he murdered so manyothers for making fun of him....Below i will upload a pic on the murder of his critics from a passage from one of your authentic sources. ..

Christianity Etc › Re: Ashtray by Ifeann(f): 4:41pm On Jan 18, 2015
Empiree:
Yea just like western media does not recognize or refused to tell the world about muslim police officer who was also killed in the attacks. They publish what suits them.
Wow. ..you are really ignorant or just lieing. The very frist victim of the shoot ing that people learnt of was the Muslim police officer. ..right now i know by heart only the name of the editor and theMuslim officer because the editor was quite popular and the officer name was mentioned so many times in the media. ..

TheWestern media even showed a live broadcast of a conference organized for the family of the Muslim police man. ... i was actually offended that cnn paid far too much attention to the Muslim officer and neglected to follow up on the families of the 11 other murdered people . ... Your comment here goes to show how valid the point of usermane is. .The majority of muslims love to play victim...Get over yourself.
U blame the Jews, u blame the zionists, u blame the usa , u blame the West. .. can't u see ur religion is the problem; with all its hate, how do you think the Muslim world will progress..17 million jews versus 1.5 billion muslims yet the Jews have made so much contribution to humanity while the Muslims give the world one terrorist incident after another. .
Christianity Etc › Re: 50 Reasons Why Muhammad Was NOT A Prophet by Ifeann(op): 9:15am On Jan 18, 2015
BABAAGBALABA:
man many, i just cant post d pics but i give point and u google it ,
1)-> building of houses and buildings taller than mountains in mecca
2)removing of mountains from mecca (many mountains have been removed for more space for constructions now)
3) a shadow casted on d kaaba (ryte now d clock tower AS SAAD is casting a shadow on d kaaba)
4) holes passing through i d mountains of mecca (roads are now builded thru d mountains in mecca)
5) poor desert people becoming reach peoles (check d dubai ,meeca ,medinah of before and now)
6)people behaving like animals (u dont need me to explain dat for you
7)people talking to each other through their palms (telephones) etc
My friend weer are waiting for your quran verses and please , if you can, bring up any miracle Mohammed preformed.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Northern Muslim Girl's Letter To Christians by Ifeann(f): 9:08am On Jan 18, 2015
sameera025:
The only reason why I'm am answering this post is to clarify this to others who may read your post and think you make sense. Your behavior and the way you conduct your conversations do not deserve my acknowledgment. You are here to represent your religion yet you do not do so in commendable manner. Telling a religious person they worship the devil. Your actions don't in any way reflect the character of Jesus who you look up to.

Yes, Islam denies the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. Muslims believe that God rescued Jesus from the schemes of the unbelievers and raised Christ to heaven. The general Islamic view is that someone else was crucified in Jesus' place, Judas Iscariot was the one whom the unbelievers killed.

Judas was made to look like Jesus on the night when Christ was to be crucified. The unbelieving Jews thought that they had crucified Christ when in reality it was Judas that they had killed.

Why give the enemy the power of killing Jesus? Wouldn't that be them winning? Were they acting in the way of God by helping God kill him for his sins. No, they were killing him for the faith he was spreading. When they killed him, was he dying for the sins of the jews who brutaly crucified him as well?

If anything, Islam does more justice to Jesus for not giving the enemy the satisfaction of having killing someone so special as the messenger of God. Jesus had the last laugh.

There is no false religion for where you believe the messengers before Jesus did not know of Jesus as Jesus but as the father that know one has told me about yet, We believe all the messengers worshiped and spread the message of the same, one Almighty God from the beginning.
Yet again u contradict your sources. ... no where is it mentioned in the lie in your quran about who was crucified ... most of your scholars claim it was an innocent man Simon of Cyrene , who helped Jesus with the cross after his scourging ... this idea was a common heresy during Mohammeds time. .

There was a Christian heresy in the centuries before and around the time of Mohammed’s century (7th) called “Docetism”. One of the odd features of Docetism was the belief that the true God had put up a simulacrum, or “double”, of Jesus on the cross in order
to deceive witnesses. The anti-heresy Christian writer Irenaeus
in the late 2nd century A.D. catalogued certain heretics with
Docetic tendencies, among them Basilides who, as A.K.M. Adam
puts it (paraphrasing Irenaeus’s “Against Heresies II.xxiv.4):
“…taught that the Nous took human form as Jesus in order to
make the unborn, nameless Father known. Since the Nous was
inhabiting Jesus, he—the Nous—could not actually suffer and
die, but changed places with Simon of Cyrene, who was
transfigured to resemble Jesus, and was crucified while the
actual Jesus/Nous stood aside and laughed.”
Historians, on the basis of the Hadiths and Sira, conjecture
that Mohammed had some discussions with some Christians in
Arabia. Considering the garbled nature of the Koran and
Hadiths concerning the Biblical lore, it’s quite possible that the
Christians who influenced Mohammed were heretics, including Docetists.


Your Koran says
Qur'an 4:157
They said (in boast), "we killed christ jesus the son of mary, the messenger of Allah". But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubt, without(certain) knowledge, but only conjective to follow, for a surety they killed him not.

And

Qur'an 9: 30
"AND THE JEWS SAY, EZRA IS THE SON OF Allah, AND THE CHRISTIAN SAY: THE MESSIAH IS THE SON OF Allah, THESE ARE THE WORDS OF THEIR MOUTHS; THEY INITIATE THE SAYING OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVED; MAY Allah DESTROY THEM; HOW THEY ARE TURNED AWAY

Mohamed said all this when itis clearfrom the early christain scripture and inthe oldtestament that Jesus is the the Sonof God. In Mark 14:61-62, Jesus claimed to be the Son of Man (Daniel 7:13) and
David's Lord (Psalm 110:1)
Jesus helped people who called him Lord, and never rebuked when people worshipped him (Matthew 14:30-33)
Moreover in John 5:22-23 22 , the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honour the Son just as they honour the Father. Whoever does not honour the Son does not honour the Father, who sent him. Jesus judges us all, Jesus is one with God and the son of God. The scripture is very clear on the nature of Jesus. Check also Mathew 11:27, 17:5,John 5:17-18 and peters answer to Christ's question about who he was in Mathew 16:16.

The scripture is also very clear in;
1 John 2:22, 'Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that
Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:2-3 "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world." Several times this term is used in the plural, and can be applied to almost anyone who is opposed to Christ. Those who deny that Jesus came in the flesh are anti-Christ or of the spirit of antichrist.

1 John 4:1
beloved,believe not every spirit,but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets has gone into the world.


So malvisguy212 is correct to assert islam is of the devil....

This is one of the ways to discern a false teacher from a true one.
In 1 Corinthians 14:33 My bible tells me in clear terms that God is not the author of confusion. There is so much confusion in Islam ask the Wahabi, Salafists, sunnis, shites alwaites, ahmedies. They kill each other because of thier differences. .

My bible also tell me in Matthew 7:15-20,“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them."
Islams fruits are rotten and that's the truth my friend.

So in conclusion;
God the father acknowledged Jesus as his son (john 17:5)
Jesus called himself the Son of God as well as the Son of man
His disciples called him the son of God.
Isaiah from the old testament prophesied about him and called him the son of God.
Angel Gabriel in the first chapter of Luke called Jesus the Son of God.
John the baptist called Jesus the son of God.
The Jews who hated him accused him of claiming he is the Son of God and planned his crucifixion because of this. .
Demons he casted out called him the son of God.

Yet u Muslims choose to believe the words of a monotheistic pagan sex addicted slave trader mass murderer illiterate Arab paedophile who said a few nice things and who died after he was poisoned by a woman.

Why didn't ur allah bring a double to save Mohammed who was the last and most important prophet according to u Muslims, why did he let him to suffer for 4 years before dying in great pain. .. my sister in humanity open ur mind to truth, soften ur heart to Christ's love and purge ur brain of the lies u have been made to believe from Islam. ... Who is the lair, he that denys the (relationship between) the father and the son...

May the one true God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, father of Jesus set you free when u come to him for truth.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Northern Muslim Girl's Letter To Christians by Ifeann(f): 10:26pm On Jan 17, 2015
AgentOfAllah:
make a pick

you don't need to educate me on why more blacks are incarcerated than others I know why. Nevertheless, the white man who sees the statistics and turns a blind eye to the root cause, that is, the abject economic policies of the state towards black people, would be tempted to assume there is something that makes blacks naturally gravitate towards criminality. I hope you understand that I am not trying to make a religious analogy here because this point is lost on you. You seem to ignore the lopsided political injustices meted to Muslim majority populations by the Western powers, and are all too happy to play on numbers. You're not the only one who can tell stories with numbers, you know?
I see your point though, why should you bother educating me when you've failed to educate yourself first?


Please don't bother educating me on how god instructing its followers to kill every man, woman, child, except virgins is not "violence of a senseless and brutal nature" (Numbers 31) or how good ordained that the punishment for a kid who curses their parent is death (exodus 21:17). If you try to educate me, you'll be wasting your Mb and time. You really shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

Please don't bother educating me on how god commanded genocides for thousands of years, only to change after sacrificing its innocent son, who wasn't really sacrificed because it brought him back to life. I would feel tortured if you did!


No, don't argue with me... Go educate yourself first.
Once again u leave me with no doubt that u don't know much about the root cause of the problems from Islam and of course christain theology. .. u really need to educate yourself on a topic before engaging in a polemic on it. .. like i said to you before i can't be bothered . .... but i will make a reply to this statement. ..
You said,
""Nevertheless, the white man who sees the statistics and turns a blind eye to the root cause, that is, the abject economic policies of the state towards black people, would be tempted to assume there is something that makes blacks naturally gravitate towards criminality. I hope you understand that I am not trying to make a religious analogy here because this point is lost on you. You seem to ignore the lopsided political injustices meted to Muslim majority populations by the Western powers, and are all too happy to play on numbers. You're not the only one who can tell stories with numbers, you know?"

Take your time and read your comments again. ...lt is shameful how Muslims in particular including people such as your self are quick to blame the "white man" for every thing. .i am surprised you did nt also blame the Jews and zionists like Muslims often do for all their problems. ..do you know how much the Muslim world gets as grants, aid and economic development loans from the white man. ..Saudi arabia , Qatar, dubia etc are all what they are today because of the help of the white man. ... Yet we see these countries/States maybe with the exception of dubia have poor human rights records. . , little Regard for women and of course christain, atheist and shi'a persecution. The more popular countries with the terror issues are states like Pakistan, afghan, yemen etc who are given billions in military support by the "white man" yet we see groups like the Taliban insisting on islamisation amongst other demands. ..
Let's take a look at the Western world. .. Jews, Africans , Asians ,(Christian and atheist) arabs etc migrate to countries like France, Britian, Belgium, Spain etc and they assimilate and become productive citizens but for the Muslims , it's a different story. . They always claim discrimination. . They always present their drama while the kafir migrants live their dream. ..
my friend it has very little to do with economic policies and everything to do with Islam. .. if Muslims spent less time reciting that hateful book, going to Almajiri schools and madrassas and more time actually developing themselves with a real education maybe just maybe terrorism will be less of a global problem and leading export from the Muslim world.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Northern Muslim Girl's Letter To Christians by Ifeann(f): 8:56pm On Jan 17, 2015
sameera025:
The quran is the word of Allah, unfabricated and perfect. Prophet Muhammed is my role model, so I practice his sunnah. I have explained the verses you sent to me, so if there are more you don't understand please do post them.
I mean u no offense but if Mohammed is your role model then u should be off fighting infidels and kaffirs till they pay the jizyah and hope u die as a martyr.

You should be enslaving women and children after beheading their fathers

You should be sleeping with children

Ypu should also have ur own harem of sex slaves

Ypu should be killing pagans and those that write poems about you.

You should be beating your spouse

You should.... never mind....
Christianity Etc › Re: A Northern Muslim Girl's Letter To Christians by Ifeann(f): 8:43pm On Jan 17, 2015
sameera025:
.
Hi sameera025
It breaks my heart when i read your defense of Islam and u use verses to make a point iin your attempt to present Islam as nice yet it contradicts your early Muslim scholars and even Muslims here on nairaland. .. I have been busy since the last time we engaged here and have been un able to write back. .... i think u are very sincere but you are getting things wrong. ...

I believe uhave askedsome questionsabout Lord Jesus...U like most Muslims don't understand why a Person should pay for the sins of the world... why would a God burden his son with the sins of a believer in christ... Muslims have even mocked this christain theology. ..

But let's look at your sources. ... Your sahih source

Sahih Muslim 6666--Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.

Sahih Muslim 6668--Allah's Messenger [said]: There would come people amongst the Muslims on the Day of Resurrection with as heavy sins as a mountain, and Allah would forgive them and He would place in their stead the Jews and the Christians.

Do you see the inconsistency with you preaching Islam in light of what it is not...As you ponder on this i want use to compare this command given by Mohammed 600 years after this command given by Jesus. ..

This is what muhammed preach;
Quran 5:45: "And We prescribed for
them therein: The life for the life, and
the eye for the eye, and the nose for
the nose, and the ear for the ear, and
the tooth for the tooth, and for
wounds retaliation. But whoso
forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it
shall be expiation for him. Whoso
judgeth not by that which Allah hath
revealed such as wrong-doers. "

This verse go against the teaching of Jesus;

Mattew 5
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye
for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[h]
39 But. I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If
anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love
your neighbor and hate your enemy.’
44 But I tell you, love your enemies and
pray for those who persecute you,
45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on
the righteous and the unrighteous.
46 If you love those who love you, what
reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?
48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.


How can u possibly accept the teachings of Mohammed that says revenge and reject that of Christ that said forgive...

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