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Christianity Etc › Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Ifeann(f):
yazach:
LoL. Well you try for your ill-self explanation and as a result, I will comment on just two of your statement

Firstly,

@bold, are you opposing Jesus by the statement in bold red color? undecided undecided
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
New International Version
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

New Living Translation
"Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose.

English Standard Version
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

New American Standard Bible
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill.


He even affirm that nothing out of the law will be left unfulfilled
18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

He went ahead and gave a warning
9 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

The following affirm those laws are righteousness and only when you exceed those righteousness will you enter paradise
20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
So it is left for you to accept those laws and enter kingdom of heaven or reject them and be among the dwell of fire embarassed embarassed

Secondly,
Thank God you accept that bible also support slavery, but I notice a kind of hidden in you statements that it is mentioned in Old testament grin grin This makes me laugh. Apart from the fact that Jesus did not come to abolish those laws, he put it in to practice by:
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

So the question is as follows:
Since you blackmail Islam with slavery, Why would bible God support it both in Old and new testament
"Surprise Surprise" . Another muslim quotes the bible out of context. Well NO its not a surprise. The level of ignorance u Muslims exhibit is shocking. Classic strawman. U make a false assumption and attack it thinking u are making a point while u only exhibit ur ignorance for basic theology and clear passages.

You said,"LoL. Well you try for your ill-self explanation and as a result, I will comment on just two of your statement"

Well my friend my explanation was honest, accurate and with enough details and authentic verses to back it up. I know why u decided to "address" the 2 statements, which coincidentally are associated with christainity, its because u can't even address the terrible amount of vices in your quran and hadiths with my emphasis on the inhumane treatment of slaves by Mohammed as commanded by his allah. This is the typical muslim.

You also said,"Firstly,
@bold, are you opposing Jesus by the statement in bold red color? :-"

I affirm and support everything Jesus teaches. I really won't bother explaining that verse Matthew 5:17-18 in depth to u because my effort will be wasted on you but nevertheless I will give u a brief insight.
Jesus said, "“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED". He was crucified, died and was resurrected and hence paid the price for the sins of those who accept him hence ACCOMPLISHING EVERYTHING as prophesied. There is more theological meaning to this like; Jesus illustrates the Law by doing as the real Law requires, in contrast to how many Pharisees were living but I won't go into it. In addition St Paul a literate Jewish scholar, guided by the holy spirit and who understood the scripture wrote in Galatians 3:23-25;
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."

So u see my friend, u will never understand this if u remain under the bondage of Islam and closeminded thinking.

Then you said,"Secondly,
Thank God you accept that bible also support slavery, but I notice a kind of hidden in you statements that it is mentioned in Old testament grin grin This makes me laugh."

Wow.. Now u are making a fool of yourself and on top of that you are now lying...and Your English is getting more difficult to understand. Look at what I said in that my previous comment and I quote it back to you, "...Your heart is darken and it is difficult to understand the message of God, the bible does not support slavery but gave commands for their fair treatment"
So u see u are really confused. But I won't blame you. Its the lying spirit of Islam in you.

Then you said' " Apart from the fact that Jesus did not come to abolish those laws, he put it in to practice by:
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it."

Be careful what u say about Jesus, even your sources command you to respect him... and saying false things about the Son of God ..well I hope he forgives you.
That passage u quoted Luke 12:47-48 is an explanation of the parable of the watchful servant(Luke 12:35-40).
Start from Luke 12:35-40 that's the parable and in Luke 12:41 peter then asks Christ,"Lord does this parable apply to us or do you mean it for everyone" the Christ explains that parable with a metaphorically story about the faithful or unfaithful servant which you quoted ignorantly to try and justify the verses encouraging slavery in your quran.

I really do get tried and bored of correcting u Muslims but I must. No matter how u try, u can never bring the teachings in Christianity to the putrid level of Islam's teachings in the quran and hadiths.
Christianity Etc › Re: Buhari And The Born Again Christian by Ifeann(f): 6:25pm On Jan 06, 2015
Rilwayne001:
How come most northern muslims casted their votes for him in the 2011 election?

hypocrisy will not kill una.
Hey friend

I notice u either lie with so much confidence or u just don't know what u are talking about. U need to get ur facts straight.
Christianity Etc › Re: Buhari And The Born Again Christian by Ifeann(f): 4:05pm On Jan 06, 2015
truthman2012:
@Ifeann

You made very good points but I want to add:

Buhari was once quoted as saying: ''sharia should be used nationwide'', how far that is true I cannot confirm.

We need serious prayers for Nigeria because the devil really means business. So much money has been injected into islam with the goal of islamizing Nigeria. So many youths have been converted to islam in Eboyi State for money. The economy doesn't help matter. Some norminal Christians say they prefer islam to hunger. It is sign of the end time

Turkey used to be 100% Christians but today it is 96% muslims. We should not underrate the power of satan. We need prayers.
Yes buhari did say that. Its on record.

I know about turkey. Very sad case. You do know abt the Sophia haggi. The Muslims converted that beautiful church to a mosque at one point. That's Islam for you.

I had been a nominal christain and I thank God I am far more awake, not perfect but trying.

I am of the view that the greatest threat to Christians isn't really Islam but nominal Christians and false "christain" teachers. Christians that are unaware and overtly liberal. Left wing Liberalism that supports gay marriages, abortions and so many ills that the bible condemns.

Christians that can't defend their scripture and take a decent pounding on their faith and yet remain faithful. We Christians are lucky that Islam is a house divided against itself, if it wasn't for their divisions and killing of one another we could have been living under sharia and paying the jizyah.
Christianity Etc › Re: Buhari And The Born Again Christian by Ifeann(f): 12:34pm On Jan 06, 2015
truthman2012:
I agree with most of your points but that Nigeria is a 'secular state'. From a reliable source, we learnt that 'sharia' is mentioned 73 times in the constitution. Quran, mosque, islam, muslim etc are also mentioned in a number of times, without a single mention of the bible, church or Christianity. This was the influence of muslims as Head of State at that time. Now as it appears, Christianity is an illegal institution in the country as far as the constitution is concerned. Do you still want to maintain that Nigeria is a secular state?



I pray no one will Islamize Nigeria, but efforts are on to do so. Geo-political zones into which the country is divided was not done by the government but by a Muslims' Organization for the purpose of islamizing the country. Remember, Nigeria with a population of 40% muslims is a member of OIC. What are the goals of this organization? Your guess is as good as mine.

It is true Buhari did not islamize Nigeria but I am of the opinion that the muslims in the country at that time were not so desirious to islamize, unlike now that they are so conscious of it. Even then, mosque had been in Aso Rock for a number of years. It would have remained so if not for Obasanjo who encouraged the building of a church.

You see, when we look at the economy, we would not want Jonathan there anymore. But if we look at religion, we would not want Buhari there too. It is our duty as born-again Christians to pray and let God direct us who to vote for.
Anybody who thinks that the "isalmization" of Nigeria is not possible obviously has no idea of the domination/"all submission" ideology of Islam and the extent the conservative northern elites will go to spite the progressive southerners. Go and look at youtube videos of what Ahmedu bello, religious bigot extraordinare and tribalist,and see what he had to say about southerns, especially the Ibos. This is a man the northerners hold in high esteem. If anyone is still in doubt you should then findout why there are over 48 Islamic countries. It will be hard to ever "isalmization" Nigeria but why do we need to give a self confessed pro sharia northern conservative religious bigot a chance.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jihad - Is It Only For Defence? by Ifeann(f):
tartar9:
thats not really true,they were given options.
The choice is

Convert to the evil ideology of Islam pay the jizyah
Or be beheaded, just as Mohammed did in his time.
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Christianity Etc › Re: Ladies Should Not Wear Trousers by Ifeann(f): 8:59am On Jan 05, 2015
matrixx9:
The woman shall not
wear that which
pertaineth unto a man,
neither shall a man put
on a woman's garment:
for all that do so are
abomination unto the
LORD thy God.

Deuteronomy 22:5

Despite This Commandment.. ladies still wear Trousers.. I know many will blast me for this but I'm quite prepared.. Logical Arguments Are Accepted
You just quoted the bible clearly and yet failed to understand it.

The bible didn't say Ladies should NOT wear Trousers. It says what pertaineth unto a man. Vice versa for males.
Hence men shouldn't wear female trousers and females shouldn't wear male trousers. Can't u see this.

The scripture was talking about cross dressers, dragqueens; this is common with homosexuals or the sexually deviant people in society.

Having said this I must add that skirts and gowns are by far more appealing on a woman's body than trousers, but a woman has the right to chose to dress how she feels most appropriate for herself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Funny Church Posters by Ifeann(f): 8:46am On Jan 05, 2015
Sola scriptura meets African mediocrity.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Lying Deity by Ifeann(f): 5:21pm On Jan 04, 2015
PastorKun:
I guess NL muslims are getting to embarrassed to defend their beliefs given the avalanche of evidence against it that it cannot possibly be from the true almighty God. I am sure some of them are already recounting their steps. I now know why so many muslims keep abandoning the religion for christianity
I have noticed this is well. When u bring the evidence of the falsehood of Islam upon them they run. Some Muslims even admit they are not knowledgeable enough to answer. Or give silly defense of the vices in the quran.
Christianity Etc › Re: Jihad - Is It Only For Defence? by Ifeann(f): 8:30pm On Jan 02, 2015
PastorKun:
@tartar9
This thread confirms that you are a fundermentalist and either currently a terrorist or a potential one. What makes you think a true God would need mortal humans to clear the way for his worship? Is he so weak that he can't do it himselfhuh What makes you feel you are following the right path apart from the fact that you have been brainwashed from your childhood days?
Tartar9 is being honest here. Unlike the majority of Muslims he stated facts about the command to spread Islam via force and jihad.
Here are some narrations, hadiths and quran verses to understand his mindset.

Tabari VIII:35/Ishaq:464 "The Jews were made to come down, and Allah's Messenger imprisoned them. Then the Prophet went out into the marketplace of Medina (it is still its marketplace today), and he had trenches dug in it. He sent for the Jewish men and had them beheaded in those trenches. They were brought out to him in batches. They numbered 800 to 900 boys and men."

Tabari VIII:40 "The Messenger of God commanded that furrows should be dug in the ground for the Qurayza. Then he sat down. Ali and Zubayr began cutting off their heads in his presence."

Quran 8:39. "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah; but if they desist, then surely Allah sees what they do."

Qur'an (9:29)-"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura 9:5. "When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them."

Bukhari 2:24: Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."
Islam › Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Ifeann(f): 8:15pm On Jan 02, 2015
Abdulsalam20:
I Should have interfere but i wasnt aware of the topic infact the topic is very funny............grin..........ALL THOSE QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED BUT i discover that you dont want to learn you only come to critcise
you eventually run away after seeing the truth

if it is about terror in the old testament

https://www.nairaland.com/1869607/christianity-religion-terrorism

if it is about new testament you will see it here
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt.html


contradictions
https://www.nairaland.com/1869664/contradictions-bible


you said quran is full of lies.........then yoy shold have pointed it out grin grin

THE CASE OF PHARAOH SHOULD BE A PRACTICAL EXAMPLE FOR YOU

YOU SHOULD HAVE UNDERSTAND THE MAIN TOPIC IF YOU WISH TO LEARN BUT I DISCOVER YOU ONLY WANT TO CRITICISE


5:72 They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
What will it take for u Muslims to see u are deceived. Jesus is the Son of God.
Jesus was called Lord several times by those who he healed and delivered, and he never rebuked when people worshipped him (Matthew 14:30-33)

Moreover in John 5:22-23 22 , says the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, that all may honour the Son just as they honour the Father. Whoever does not honour the Son does not honour the Father, who sent him. Jesus judges us all, Jesus is one with God and the son of God. The scripture is very clear on the nature of Jesus. Check also Mathew 11:27, 17:5,John 5:17-18

The scripture is also very clear in;
1 John 2:22, 'Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that
Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son.
1 John 4:2-3 "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world." Several times this term is used in the plural, and can be applied to almost anyone who is opposed to Christ. Those who deny that Jesus came in the flesh are anti-Christ or of the spirit of antichrist.

1 John 4:1
beloved,believe not every spirit,but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets has gone into the world.

This is one of the ways to discern a false teacher from a true one.
In 1 Corinthians 14:33 My bible tells me in clear terms that God is not the author of confusion. There is so much confusion in Islam ask the Wahabi, Salafists, sunnis, shites alwaites, ahmedies. They KILL each other because of their differences.

My bible also tell me in Matthew 7:15-20,“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them."
Islams fruits are rotten and that's the truth my friend.

So in conclusion;
God the father acknowledged Jesus as his son (john 17:5)
Jesus called himself the Son of God.
His disciples called him the son of God.
Isaiah from the old testament prophesied about him and called Jesus the son of God.
Angel Gabriel in the first chapter of Luke called Jesus the Son of God.
John the baptist called Jesus the son of God.
The Jews who hated him accused him of claiming he is the Son of God
Demons he casted out called him the son of God.

Yet u Muslims choose to believe the words of a pagan sex addicted slave trader mass murderer illiterate Arab paedophile who died after he was poisoned.

May the one true God, the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, father of Jesus set you free when u come to him for truth.
Islam › Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Ifeann(f): 8:08pm On Jan 02, 2015
truthman2012:
Honestly sister, anybody that is possessed with the spirit of islam and other occultic spirits are always under sex.ual bondage. It is this unGodly spirit that promised each muslim of 72 virgins in heaven, when Jesus said there is no marriage in heaven. Why would the true God allow His holy Heaven turned to se.xual or.gy?
its shameful that what a muslim man expects of paradise at the end of his life is to have sex with 72virgins to deflower for eternity. Consuming wine and dates with slaves to do his bidding. I wonder what Muslims women wait for. Maybe they will be disvirg.ined everyday for enternity. Sounds more like a punishment.
Islam › Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Ifeann(f): 8:03pm On Jan 02, 2015
tartar9:
you are referring to your bloodthirsty bible rite?bloody hypocrite!
Another Muslim exhibits the spirit of Mohammed by insulting.
My friend all the vices I mentioned are in you quran and hadith and I am well acquainted with the passages. If u are ready we can examine it.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by Ifeann(f): 7:57pm On Jan 02, 2015
ypeace:
Ifeann
i may not have the privilege to reply quickly again................. I noticed that apart from calling me an hypocrite you didnt mention anything about what we were discussing b4 'slavery'. We keep jumping from topics to topics............. With my little knowlege, I think almost all the hadith has stories before the narration. And these stories are not repeated in similar narrations. The story of what happened in Qisas is in Sahih Al Bukhari Book 83, Hadith 37. I have little knowlege about the ruling on apostates............. About the verses you quoted in the last part of your posts. Well, you yourself mentioned that the Qur'an says its clear in its meaning. But perphaps you forgot that it is referring to people who reflect and people of understanding........ I think almost everyone is aware that Nigeria's constitution allows killing. But even though we may not all be aware of all the circumstances in which this is allowed, no sane Nigerian will kill for a single reason that the constitution allows it....................You clearly stated that your faith (Jesus teachings) does not support politics, military. I also say, It doesnt say much about banking and some social stuffs pple engage in. Then I wonder how you Judge that military is bad against oppresion. If military is that bad, then what solution does your believe provides to a situation where your state is attacked militarily? ....................................................... Though you may not agree with all what I hace written so far. I have a suggetion::::::::::::::.::::::::::::::::::::::::::: A man shares his limited food with rodents and pests so he bought pesticides and poison . A man came to him saying, poison is bad, it could kill the little children in the house if they ingest it. He does not bother to know what the man uses it for, he kept saying repeatedly poison is bad. Dont you think it wud hav been a better idea if the man says 'use a trap instead cos its more efficient and not harmful to the babies'?..........instead of objecting and claiming, why not suggest alternatives. These would show you understand very well what you are criticising.......... God knows best and may God guide us right. Peace.
Islam is a political ideology based on totalitarianism. That is why we have oppressive Islamic countries. 2 clear examples Saudi Arabia and Iran. Christians are not even allowed in parts of Saudi. Christians and even sunnis are oppressed in Iran. The same way shia are murdered in sunni strong holds. Religious Governments don't work.

This is why there is separation of church and state because Governments and corruption go together like bread and butter.

How my country decides to deal with criminals, boko haram, invaders, attackers etc is my Governments business but I will support my government as long as it does not condone or perpetuate evil. The Islamic ottoman empire perpetuated evil and killed millions of Armenians. Did other Muslims go out and help them. NO because the crime was perpetuated by an Islamic empire.
Christain charity groups have been catering for Muslims in refugee camps in the north despite fears of boko haram expansion. I wonder if Muslims would help christains if the opposite was the case.
I am tired of explaining to u. U can bring up another topic, slavery, whatever etc.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Ifeann(f): 6:05pm On Jan 02, 2015
limamintruth:
If only yazach & co. will read this and comprehend. lipsrsealed
I have explained this to yazach before. He keeps forgetting. But by Gods grace he will one day be free from the bondage of the antichrist
Islam › Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Ifeann(f): 5:29pm On Jan 02, 2015
balash:
All this half baked researcher just love trouble everyday of your life between muslim and christian beliefs, Are u never tired of revealling your hatred for muslim and the Prophet(pbuh)


If I start research for you in the bible which contradict a lot about Jesus and Christians u will run but no I won't because we muslim belief so much about Jesus been the prophet of Allah and we respect his beliefs and teachings which some of your christians fore fathers have twisted a lot to favour your church business.

God bless The Prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

God bless The Prophet Isa (Jesus)

We All are just servants of the living God! May he forgive us our everyday sins



N:B Quote me million tyms if its not reasonable I won't reply
Salam alaykum my friend

Truthman2012 has no hatred for you Muslims infact he has love for you hence he has to devote some of his time to exposing the falsehood of Islam to you Muslims before it is too late.

Mohammed was not a prophet and the proof is glaring in the quran and hadiths. Please bring up any issue u have with Christianity and we share ponder on it in turn we shall seek to address why Islam and your false prophet endorses, supports and encourages slavery or child marriage or paedophilia or sex with captives (that your right hand possess) or beheadings or stonings or revenge missions or assassination of his critics or the abrogations of revelations or polygamy(legalised adultery) or temporary marriage (legalised prostitution still practised by the shi'a), domestic violence against women, or inferiority of women or Al Taqiyya (use of deceit) or Inc.est (he slept with his adopted son's ex wife after he divorced her since Mohammed lusted after her), or sex with sex slaves (which he did often), or No adpotion in Islam(there by leaving countless orphans destitute) or his irrational hate of wall garkos (little lizards) or dogs (mans best friend) or the 72 virgins which you will dis.virgin over and over again with your perpetual erections or Mohammed's sharing of war booty or any other vice of your choice in the Qu'ran ..
Islam › Re: Since Muhammad Knew The Remedy For Poison, Why Did He And His Men Die Of It? by Ifeann(f): 5:21pm On Jan 02, 2015
truthman2012:
Allah's Apostle said, ''He who eats seven Ajwa dates every morning WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BY POISON OR MAGIC on the day he eats them'' (Sahih Bukhari, Vol. 7, Book 65, No. 356).

Why did Muhammad and his men still die of poison?
He was probably too busy with Aisha and his 10 other wives and numerous sex slaves and forgot to eat his dates.
Christianity Etc › Re: Bible God And His Share Of Virgins And Other War Booty by Ifeann(f): 5:06pm On Jan 02, 2015
yazach:
"If you are going to dance outside, it is better to practice it at home" I have tested your level of intelligence but it seems so low, what you always mentioned about Islam have all been debunked but like yoruba adage "A child knows only two things: eating and sleeping"

I have asked you ones why bible would support slavery but your answer can only be "Christian has nothing to do with Old testament" as if God of Old testament is different from God of New testament.
I believe an Intelligent entity will ponder on why would bible support that and if found in the bible, was God so unfair to those people but instead, you want me to engage you in another topic of which you always show your dodging tactics when your are being caged
Loool. Did u say low intelligence.
Am I surprised at this derogatory remark. NOPE.
You see, when a muslim is cornered in a discussion about the Vices in the quran and hadiths , that terrible spirit of Islam pushes him to throw insults and red herrings so he can make an escape. BUT I won't let u go off that easy.

You said,"I have asked you ones why bible would support slavery but your answer can only be "Christian has nothing to do with Old testament" as if God of Old testament is different from God of New testament."
No true christain would say this, when I get asked these questions about the Old testament I look at the context and explain it. A fact you Muslims forget often is that Christians don't live under the old testament, that Law was given to the ancient Jews but Christians are very associated with the old testament because of this important reason- the coming of Christ was foretold therein.

You mentioned something about slavery in the bible,

Let's analyze some verses and compare it with the quran and Mohammed who came 3000years after some of theses commands were given in the torah.

Exodus 21: 7-11,
...And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to MARRY HIS SON, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as HIS DAUGHTER. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a FREE WOMAN without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

Remember, like I told you before, this is ancient law, thousands of years before Jesus and your prophet. However see the effort at fairness.

The "worse" treatment of slaves in the old testament is far better than your best verse on slavery in the quran.

Now let's analyze the verse
Jews were ALLOWED TO MARRY SLAVES AND THEY ARE FREE TO LEAVE HENCE NOT AGAISNT THEiR WILL as the ending of that passage shows.

in your haste to embarrass the old testament you once again condemn the Islam as evil . Let's see how slaves are treated in Islam even if they are married.

Qur'an (4:24)-"And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."
Even sex with married slaves is permissible. Hence the crime of sex slavery and adultery was approved by your prophet.

Qur'an (8:69)-"But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good"
A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part, ISIS are very much inlove with this verse.

Qur'an (33:50)-"O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee"

Qur'an (23:5-6)-"..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..."
This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. More vices.

See also Qur'an (70:29-30). The Quran is a small book, so if Allah used valuable space to repeat the same point four times, then sex slavery must be very important to him and Mohammed.

Qur'an (24:32)-"And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness. This is sickening.

Qur'an (2:178)-"O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female."
The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans arenotcreated equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man's).


Your heart is darken and it is difficult to understand the message of God, the bible does not support slavery but gave commands for their fair treatment. Now let's look at what happened to Jews who kidnapped people with an attempt to sell them.

"He who kidnaps a man, whether he
sells him or he is found in his
possession, shall surely be put to
death." ( Exodus 21:16)

Another example,
"If a man strikes his male or female
slave with a rod and he dies at his
hand, he shall be
punished." ( Exodus 21:20)

Now let's take a look at the new testament

Galatians 3:28p
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond(slave) nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 12:13:"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond(slave) or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit."

Colossians 3:11:"Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond(slave) nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.


if you want to understand any other Old testament passage, get a Holy Bible, read the it and ask me for information regarding the larger context if you are too lazy to read the entire chapter. Then compare it with your quran and you will see its falsehood for what it is.

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