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Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man he will become.

Religious leaders are well aware of the vulnerability of the child brain, and the importance of getting the indoctrination in early.

Gombs:
You're a spirit... God made you so, and you live in a body. Your body is your only licence to be on this earth, and since you're a spirit, and live in a body, you hence have a soul.

Your soul, my friend, belongs to God, for he bought the whole field with the blood of Jesus. If you continue living this way, on judgement day, your soul will be tossed into the lake of fire.

That's the second death.

I am pure energy,conscious energy experiencing different parallel realities at the same time. But I have created an illusion of time to experinces them separately. I am that I am, Alpha and Omega. I change not,even when I change form. I am always present,never absent and will never die. I am the human soul.

smoy:
yes bible according to Jesus is authentic but the problem with the Christendom today is the were about this Gospel according to Jesus? nothing like gospel according to Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, and must annoying is Paul the self made disciple.

yes i agreed with you that internet is god of people that refused to sight the numerous signs of Allah close to them, in the universe and withing them self, since human nature can not do without worshiping, you must have something to worship; stone, sun, iron, water, money, human, Humanity, ego, science etc are among the gods of insensitive human who think he was created out of nothing and deliberately refused to read signs of his eyes and it contents.

You are spot on that one. Humans tend to look for stuff to worship,but enlightened humans who know the true essence humanity and want to ascend to the state of unlimited beings,hence they stay clear of the material world or at least not ruled by it. To worship is a sign of limitation. Some humans are now aware of themselves as the temple they need to invest in,not a church or mosque. Our body,mind and spirit(as some understand it) is our primary goal

I think i did explain this already. on the sperm and the IVF, the scientist couldn't produce man from laboratory but by the same spam created initially by Allah, let the Scientist create uncreated element to develop embryo then we can start talking, but as for this knowledge given to human by Allah is a limited one and can never go beyond the limit, human knows only what is brain capacity can carry.

My nephew is an IVF product. He was transferred into the belly of his mum after being mixed up in a test tube. It is already happening Who said man cannot achieve anything ? hmm

Meanwhile,from your earlier quote, "we","us" etc was used by the people who used the human sperm. How come you have changed it to allah now? Let's use the original term please.

Get one copy for your self and sincerely, openhearted read this Quran. How could Muhammad of far desert years ago know what science just came to now yesterday? ponder over this He was not leaned and yet the word could never produce such impeccable and eloquent book of wisdom, for the nations followed by Millions and Generations. Well done brother.

I will no doubt add the Quran to my collection of books. I read everything. Thanks

Allioluwasegun:
No matter your condition God is still on the throne and He cannot be dethrone by anybody so please hold onto HIM because He is a faithful God,HE has not fail before so HE cannot fail now,HE is the God of all flesh and nothing is difficult for Him to do remember Luke 1:37.

That is me you are talking about. I cannot be dethroned.

Amberon:
you will be surprised.

Does google answer requests? Yes it does! We have millions of evidence.

dolphinheart:
wrong, passover was celebrated as a reminder of the events that led to the isrealites leaving bondage in Egypt. The season or sun's movement does not decide the celebration, but rather decide the date the celebration will be held, cus the season, sun and moon movement decides how the Jewish calender will be calculated. After calculation, the passover was held on the 14th day of the month of Nissan.

Christmas and easter are celebration adopted from pagan worshipers by some so called christians, it has no correlation to the teachings of their holy book. 99.9% of what goes on during that celebration has a link with pagan practices during the time it was adopted.

There is no shred of evidence that the Jews were in bondage in Ancient Egypt. If there is one civilisation with historical accuracy, it is Egypt. You are entitled to your belief. But your believe lack any form of historical evidence.

Gombs:
All souls... Including yours, whether or not you know/like it.

No,yours and those who believe it to be that way. I am not locked in that matrix.

Amberon:
per the bolded. Its all about the trinity. The bible made it clear that God has a triune nature.

God the father,
God the Son,
The holy spirit.

Allah is a counterfeiter hence the "we".

Same as Christianity. "Let Us" creat man in "our" image and after "our" likeness. Same people in the Bible and Quran obviously. Both books are not meant to be holy books

God the father, God the Mother and God the son would have sounded more appropriate. Don't you think?

Meanwhile both books have got nothing to do with religion or gods. Man has been misinformed.

smoy:
No the book of Genesis was suppose to be a dream of whom ever wrote it not word of God nor Jesus, though all real books of God(Injil, Zebur, Taoret) came from same Origin i.e God through prophet of each generation at time interval, but as passage of time other books were manipulated and corrupted hence the need for the last and final book from God which act as manuscript for humankind and jinkind and God then took upon Himself to protect this Last one The Qur'an from interpolation like other books.


Qur'an 21: Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (30) And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive Guidance. (31) And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)! (32) It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. (33) We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here): if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently? (34) Every soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial. to Us must ye return. (35)

As a Muslim that you are,I do not expect you to agree the bible is authentic, just as they wont agree yours is authentic either.

You said God uses prophets in every generations. Maybe what you meant is prophets of every generation serve as a reminder of the true nature of humans. A reminder that we are more than we think we are. God of every generation is moulded according to the knowledge available. Today people see God as the Internet. All seem valid.

Your quotes makes use of "we"( plural a lot). You cannot tell me that is one person. Can you explain how the sperm was used? I'm curious, because I know sperm cells can be used for IVF purposes.

I personally don't see anything almighty with the Quran,it's seem like a story. An interesting story to enjoy,not to worship or reverence

Your soul maybe

smoy:
If Hausa royal man wont to speak he uses plural of royalty (Mu Ne i.e We are) even his is just One king, even the English kings and Queen uses WE as sign of royalty and Yoruba also have the same and this across all other languages even when is just one person talking, it s language of royal confidence of Allah over all what He created.

that was book of over 1400 years ago without lab equipment for testing, surely you need a Qur'an and I could help with that.

The book of Genesis of the bible, Sumerian tablet of creation and the Quran originated from the same place. I'm not surprised to see they all sound the same. Only that the Sumerian Tablet was much older than the other 2. Obviously they are all saying the same thing.

Don't forget the Mayans, The Inkas, Yorubas, Dogans said the same thing about visitors coming to genetically manipulated species on this planet. You mentioned " Sperm" lol. Yahweh never claimed to have used Sperm. Somehow these stories all sound alike. Let us make man in our image!

smoy:
Quran Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay); (12) Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; (13) Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create! (14) After that, at length ye will die (15) Again, on the Day of Judgment, will ye be raised up. (16)

It's says "We" not "I". Is Allah a group of people genetically alternating a beast/ human? I think you are mistaking Extratterstrials with Allah here. This is some science/ laboratory stuff going on in the passage you quoted from.

I need to get me a Quran. This is some genetic stuff!

Discrimination at its best. Christianity has no place in a Morden society.

analice107:
HahahahahahahahaHHHa. LWKM.

Those who believe in God have low mindsets right? Maybe you forgot that the reason for which we are here, you and I having this discussion is for you to present to the public what you, as a higher being, Intellectually superior being to us, has given to the society to better our lives.
You said you are a god, fine. god Ifeness, what have you created or formed, manufactured, invented with your superior intellects?
Am still waiting to see it.
Go ahead bring your works to bare.
Negodu...

It will be arrogant of me to say I am intellectually/ psychologically/ genetically superior to you. I cannot say that,although by their beliefs/ mindsets, you shall know them.

I have created a good world with no limitations for myself. Have you? And yes if you believe in a God who is omniscience, Omnipotent, etc. That sounds like me. I am what I think I am, therefore the God you choose to worship.

Passover is the celebration of the Spring Equanox. The Jews wait till it is evidence the weather is in Spring, which leads to Summer. It is an Astrological event,like the Christians/ Catholic celebrate Christmas( death of the Sun).

In Ancient Africa, the people worship the moon, in Europe it is the Sun..... Sun of god

smoy:
Quran2: Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). (255)

This is exactly what the Chrustians think of their god. So tell me,who is wrong or right? The biggest trap a man can find himself is to be ruled by a book. Look at how you big up Allah! I don't think you ever big up yourself this way. You are what you think you are! You think Allah has the ultimate knowledge? You thought wrong my brother. Someone wrote that book.

adeoladele:
I need a bible reference to back your advise

If you need bible references for everything, you have made yourself limited,when you are meant to be an unlimited being.

analice107:
Don't worry, I will remind you. It won't be long.

Stop accusing me of such low mindset like believing in gods if you cannot prove it. Simply browse through my threads and bring it out,or apologise.

veecovee:
THE SOUL IS IMMATERIAL TO THIS WORLD, BUT IT IS MATERIAL TO THE SOUL WORLD. AND HELLFIRE IS REAL THERE. Read mark 9:43

Who wrote Mark 9:43? The new testament is an allegory. It is full of metaphors. Everything is HERE and NOW. Those who cling to the material world are likely to experience lots of suffering/pleasure that comes with programming your mind that way. The State of Mind is all that matters. If you brainwash an individual,they become different as a result of different info to others. Free your Mind from religious virus and you won't experience Hell. You are what you think.

This is shocking. There is no god to answer any prayers. Stop the hunger strike and have sex

cooltobex:
I mean "alien" in terms of it not being our natural response to hurt, it's not second nature to us. We have to be deliberate and "mature" as you rightly mentioned to attain it.

Above all, you can truly and easily forgive when you understand you've forgiven of all wrongs by God.

Ok I got that. But what do you mean by being forgiven all wrongs by God? Gods are not real. Only you can forgive yourself.

analice107:
Hahahahahahahaha. My sis, laf don kill my here.
Ifeness was the very first fool I encountered when I newly joined NL, I was shocked how a human being can talk the way he did. Gradually I got to understand he is confused. Today he is an atheist, tomorrow he believes in Zeus, the next, he believes in African deities. He kept switching from one state to the other. . Then I gave up on him.

Point out any thread I said I believed in Zeus or African deity. If you cannot,stop claiming I believe in some silly gods,cos I don't.

Christians will keep deceiving themselves. Hell fire is a metaphor for the suffering which results from not achieving a proper mental/psychological growth. It is a state one puts his/herself if not in alignment with him/her true self.

Islam is a religion of peace that puts pieces of you here and pieces of you there with a bomb when you criticize it. Alahu akubah!!!

smoy:
All these gods you mentioned let put them in to test.
God according to the knowledge of human vast reasoning and according to books of generations and beliefs should;
1 have no father
2. nor mother
3. should be one
4. should be absolute
5. should feed all and fed not
6. no image
etc now if ANY of this gods fit in all this basic description then that is God.

You have no proof allah is real. allah is within human knowledge.

smoy:
Quran112: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; (1) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; (2) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; (3) And there is none like unto Him. (4)

The Vedas said Krishna is God too. Ifa claimed Olodumare is God,so do Christians claim Jesus and Yahweh are gods. Why do you think the Quran is right?

And why "Him"? A male deity?

Obviously yes. As that is the rules set for Christians.

smoy:
what z dat?

What does allah look like?

analice107:
Ifeness, I didn't say blow your trumpet. Is Mark Zuchabech older than you? Is he blowing his trumpet for the world to k of who he is and what he has achieved?
Just present your handiwork as an intelligent atheist who is not as dumb as believers. Ah, what's so hard in that?

I am a God. That is my greatest realization. I have everything I need.

smoy:
Quran 5: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things." (17)

Allah the E.T?

CltrAltDelicious:
I believe in the only one true God whick is Me, Myself and I

Nice!

Preciousgirl:
My God is called Jesus Christ

How did you come about that? Do you have a picture of jesus?