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Ovacoma:
Since Bible is not from God according to u, y did d god of Muslims copy from it?
Or y d similarities in many events, names and places of the Bible and d quran? Remember that quran came centuries after Bible. To be truthful, one of these book is truth and d other is false or counterfeit. Can u counterfeit what has never existed? Which one is the original that was copied from? Who now copied who? Etc. When u sincerely answer these questions in ur mind, then u know the truth and u will b set free from falsehood. Mind u, Jesus is the Way, TRUTH, and Life!

Both books copied it from the Sumerians. Both books are babies compared to the Book of The Dead,Vedas and other ancient books. As an African,your Culture and history is much older than the Bible or Qur'an.

analice107:
Humbly do it. No show of arrogant.

I'm not a fan of show off. It's not necessary. Enlightened people don't do that. You need to learn.

analice107:
And I asked you to show with proves your concrete achievements as an atheist. Not blabbings. Stuff like, "as an intelligent atheist that I am, I have invented this and I have fix this problem in my society, I have met that need and have touched and changed that life". I need specifics. No idiotic jibes.
Am making you feeling important innit?

It will be arrogant of me to point out how I have helped others. Your questions are childish

analice107:
Shouldn't you be happy to be a Bible slave?
You are a salve to the white Atheists. This type of slavery. you gave them the chains and instructed them on how firm the chains should be fixed. At least, when the colonialist came, they stole or bought people against their will. But you are a willing slave.

So you agree you are a Bible slave Atheism means not believing any any form of god,spot the difference! It is not a white man's philosophy. Atheism is the first and the last. The way things started (before invention of gods) and the way things will end(after the destruction of all gods). Good-luck slave!

analice107:
So you are saying that, all you have are empty childish rants? Why will you care about Nigeria? Neo-colonial Slave.

Humanity is one. Not only Nigeria. I hope you can understand that. Who is the bible slave? You or me?

analice107:
Vooks asked you to show what you as an African or a Nigerian Atheists have achieved, you ran away. You keep talking about the white kids. They don't believe in God, and they do all they do, now you dodn't believe in God, what have you done? For once show us. An average African or Nigerian who believe In God is 400years behind. You are an Atheist and doesn't believe in such nonsense, you are up to date right? How have you added to the well being of the your country, aside from stupid talking?

I ran away to where? Your goal as a human is to improve your mind capacity. I don't care about Nigeria,but I do care about the human race. My contributions includes being a part of change to humanity and also helping people like you stop being a slave to religion,help you see yourself as equals to your pastors and Bishops.

Life doesn't evolve around Nigeria. You need to do some traveling.

analice107:
Vooks asked you to show what you as an African or a Nigerian Atheists have achieved, you ran away. You keep talking about the white kids. They don't believe in God, and they do all they do, now you dodn't believe in God, what have you done? For once show us. An average African or Nigerian who believe In God is 400years behind. You are an Atheist and doesn't believe in such nonsense, you are up to date right? How have you added to the well being of the your country, aside from stupid talking?

I ran away to where? Your goal as a human is to improve your mind capacity. I don't care about Nigeria,but I do care about the human race. My contributions includes being a part of change to humanity and also helping people like you stop being a slave to religion,help you see yourself as equals to your pastors and Bishops.

Weah96:
Even in the Matrix there were still real organic human bodies imagining life. They didn't create the universe.

The body is an illusion. It cannot exist without permission from your mind. Superconductivity of the Mind leads to Superconductivity of Matter and Photons. It will always be Mind of Matter/physical. What is experience is a result of how our mind works. Emotions,pains are conditioning of the mind. The wrist watch is a collective creation of our minds. Otherwise those whose minds don't agree with it won't experience it.

Weah96:
Humans are quantum observers. But I seriously doubt that the first observer was a human. A mind maybe, but one unrelated to our organic edifice.

The organic/physical being itself is a production of the mind. Like the MATRIX to experience being in a physical body. A s the mind changes,the experience changes.

Weah96:
Big ups. The designer was a quantum observer, and it was the very act of observation which led to the current chain reaction we know as the universe. There is a particle in the universe which is also an individual, as you call it.

We need to give credit where it's due. The human mind is the most powerful. Its creation includes god and everything we can imagine.

@Realmindz

The watch is a reflection of consciousness/state of being of the individual. Which means the designer is the person experiencing the wrist-watch. This topic shouldn't be that difficult to explain. Physical realities(what we see and touch) is within us. A spoon can appear bent to me and straightened to you. When you stand in front of a mirror, what reflects is what how you dressed. If you want the reflection in the mirror to jump....you jump,then the reflection jumps. Simple.

There is an intelligent designer. IT IS THE INDIVIDUAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiIaKLhSUOI

There is no reason to believe in a god

His church,his rules. He has created a reality for those who are silly enough to follow his unwise teachings.

Orikinla:
. Yes. They did not believe in a god, but in the one and only Almighty GOD. He is above and beyond all gods. He is not a god. He is God. Finis. Case closed.

Is the Jewish god this almighty god you are referring to?

Orikinla:
. They are all embedded in faith.

Faith in their abilities,hard work,dedication,passion and not in a god.

There is no hopeless situation. Our European counterparts have shown us that. Well at least with what we have seen them achieve a lot without a god. Pushing problems to god makes things hopeless. Learn to be creative. Creative minds are full of hope.

Belief in one's self is all that matters in a period when all hope is lost. If you don't service your brains they will remain dull. Problems are meant to be solved and not pushed to a god. Putting hope in a religious god is as good as being dead.

SidL:
Hello Ifenes, Two things stood out in your comment. That it was beautiful experience and that you lost it.

Indeed it IS a beautiful experience, no be for mouth, I must say. The type I like the most is the none-subjective one, what some refer to as 'real-time' OOBEs, and not the 'astral' sort. The ability to float around and fly around freely is priceless.

I remember as a five year old, I broke the tap in my neighbour's house when playing with kids there, actually it was already broken, it just came off when I wanted to use it, after all I was just five, how can I break a metal tap? I felt so guilty that I ran away to my place and went to bed. Next thing I knew, I had the urge to go back and did. When I got there, I met them debating who broke the tap because the water had been running ever since, to my dismay. I told them that it was me, but they ignored me. I believed that they were so upset with me and didn't want to speak with me or play with me any more. They suddenly rushed upstairs and I went along and still no one acknowledged my presence. What a treatment, I thought. I turned around and went home, and never went back there again, convinced I was not welcome.

Only later on in life did I realise, shit, they couldn’t see me! I also realised that at no point in that experience did I have a body, I was wholly Mind. As a kid, that was heartbreaking, but as an older kid, that was like whoa!

I think one of the reasons I never lost the ability was simply because I did not share it. How could I have when I couldn’t even tell the difference between when I was embodied or disembodied. Truly a beautiful experience that one, when considered in hindsight.

The kids today, they’re all doing it, constantly. They are not just aware of it. Sleep paralysis is evidence of it for at that point, most do not know they are already out of body albeit coincident to it. Redirecting thoughts away from the body in most cases completes the egress. Some kids wake up screaming from what they think are nightmares, along with parents pouring the “blood of Jesus,” into the fire without realising that the kid was merely out of body and busy creating thought forms without realising it. They’ve probably just watched something on television which imprinted. Who can blame parents? Most simply do not know any better.

I am stating the above merely for the record should someone need this info, that there is nothing to be worried about and the skill should be encouraged and nurtured, not stifled through innocent ignorance. If you ever dreamt, then you’ve left your body, and we 'dream' all the time.

Very nice! Our present educational system have no clue about all these things. Have you heard of the term "The Mandela Effect"? Most of us born after the 1980s are indigo kids. We were born with more abilities than the previous generations.I may have lost that bit but my dreams does scare everyone. I literally know when any relative or close friend's family pass.

I have a friend who still experiences OOBE. This guy (Scottish)can literally go out of his body at will. He is a loner but when we became friends I realized he wasn't a nutter after all. He tells you where you were and what you did and time which wasn't a shock to me. I once had the experience. Many people are like this but often scared to say it out. All I know is that it is very beautiful. The ability to be omnipresent is not far away from us.

Amberon11:
"Amberon" should have suggested I was female.

Lol lol lol

Really? hell? Is that the only thing you've deduced so far from Christians and Christianity?

Amberon is a name of a well known Traffic management company. Does it mean anything? Do you have a traditional name at all? What could you have spoken about?

“Towards the end of his life…St Augustine confessed that Christianity was ‘a religion of threats and bribes unworthy of wise men’ – Tony Bushby

Amberon11:
Lmao.... ifeness you really aren't smart are you?

What have I lied about? pls spot the lie.

Hey, I never denied saying I would call you!
The topic of discussion is clear as seen below. I wasnt going to call to convince you to follow Christ, I was going to call based on the convo at that time.

How does that change the fact that I'm a girl?

What else would you call for if not to discuss about me going to hell. Does it matter if you were male or female? Your profile doesn't say you are female. Who is not being smart here? Oh except you believe Allah is the true god? Thought you said you are a christian? You go both ways? wow!

Amberon11:
Lmao!!! You're not so smart after all.

You seem to have forgotten the topic of that discussion. Convince you to follow Jesus?? Hell nah!

I'm a christian, yh but I don't go about convincing people to follow christ. That's not what Christians do and that's definitely not what Christianity is about. I'll stop for now.

PS: if you were not so "deluded", perhaps you'd have noticed that amberon was feminine. bye!!

You are a liar just like your Jewish false son of god. That's enough evidence it was you and not a female.

HCpaul:
Jonhydon22
The Guy really tried when it comes to convincing Christians.
I debated with him several times but I couldn't win him.

Am still planning on how to win his soul for Christ cuz I may even use that as a vow in church.

Ifenes too.... But the guy had dropped.

I'm surprised you are still following that dull religion. Thought you were the brightest of the "deluded ones"

Amberon11 tried,he was going to call me and convince me. I asked a few colleagues at work that one of their colonial student was going to call and convince them and myself to accept Jesus. They all laughed and anticipated the deluded dude. Fortunately he didn't. It would have been nice for them to tell him how Jesus was used to rip off our economy. You can give it a go if you want. I will pass the phone to a Jew and then an English. Teach them the ways of their ancestors,since you don't like yours

lordnicklaus:
People post due to mental breakdown and yet we complain that Yaba left is increasing..... Scientists are not even sure aliens exist. I bet you and the OP watch a lot of science fiction and then hallucinate on Ganja and the likes......... Mtchewwwwww............

Ain't we all scientists? If you studied Science in school for a period of time you are definitely one,maybe non practicing. Must you wait for a group of people to come up with certain agreed information for you to believe that life is possible very where? The only difference is if the environment supports life.

There is 95% knowledge unknown to humans. The reason people believe in a god is because they are scared to challenge and probe how god came about. The Bible and other books before it, clearly showed certain people came from the sky to mingle with Earthlings. Isn't that enough clue? I would supposed a good student is the curious student,not the student who accepts everything. Next time you need to ask your pastor about the "Sons of God" roaming in the sky and where they came from.

Mental breakdown is not challenging your religion and all its information.

JMAN05:
You are the one that no nothing abt it, dts why ur son laughed. Do not link the bible to that myth.

The bible is there for anyone to read. You still have the colonial master's interpretations in your head. What is point of your education if you cannot understand the book you call holy?

JMAN05:
Believe those stories if u like, but don't link it to the bible.

The bible is actually a story book of extra dimensional beings,nothing more. My little boy brought a drawing his mate drew and I was shocked. He drew a Grey alien and these kids think they look cool. My son is not brainwashed like I was with religion. He has no clue who Jesus as they are not allowed in British schools. I read the book of Genesis to him and he laughed.

Why defend a book you know nothing about?

lordnicklaus:
First and foremost, the OP is high on weed and gbana........
Enlil and Enki are Babylonian gods and not aliens... Enlil is also called Bel which is the same as the biblical Baal. You said the bible is unscientific@Op, I can quote scientific facts from the bible if you need....... You are speaking gibberish like a gibbon from Gabon.... You are the brainwashed one here. Either you are trying to promote a pagan religion or you are too high on marijuana and gbana...

The fact that you are exposed to more knowledge doesn't mean he is smoking Ganja with your grand-dad(as you claimed) If you know nothing,keep shut. There is nothing wrong in asking questions.

Kids over here know all these stuff. They may not call them Enlil or Enkhi, but it is obvious there are beings outside our planet. What is wrong with that idea? Nigeria still is primitive to lots of knowings.

Oliviaxx:
You are not based in Nigeria so really, you cant make these decisions for us.if only you know how difficult things have become these past few months,u wouldn't call it sacrifice....oh,thank God you said 'sacrfies' not 'sacrifice'

And typing the correct English has helped? I visit Nigeria frequently and follow the politics. You think you guys are the only country going through hard times ?

Elxandre:
That's why you are carefree about the sufferings of the common man.

If you were based in Nigeria and currently experience the hardship, with the prices of everything almost doubled, but with the same meagre salary, you'd think twice before talking.

Fair enough. But some has got to think of the future.This is the time to be creative.

Akosa007:
Monkey, still playing politics. Change abi Confused? You cant put everything on pause, while ppl suffer. What happened to building the economy first then start destroying the old policies. I see you r a misdirected youth dancing to party tunes.

I'm not even based in Nigeria. But I know change when I see one. For new things to happen,old ones needs to go. You cannot have Forigner taking over your trade system. Buhari is doing the right thing however painful it may be. It is called Sacrfies for the next generation.

SidL:
Happy Sunday all.

I have been having this experience spontaneously since I was a child. What do you think of it?

That's normal. I did when I was a child and lost ability. What a beautiful experience. Nothing else mattered to me back then. Enjoy.