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pro01:

I RETALIATE insults; I don't start insults. If you're not suffering from amnesia you would recall that I was minding my business stating my opinions before you intruded into my space by quoting me and saying that I was talking 'rubbish'. That was what started the vicious cycle of insults. I don't ever START fights here on Nairaland, but I very well RETALIATE. If I'm gonna quote anyone, its either I agree with him/her, or disagree with the substance of their views. . .not insult them by calling their views 'rubbish' just because they differ from mine. You don't just quote someone and tell them they're talking 'rubbish' because you disagree with their views. And then when the person responds in kind, your hyperactive ego would go into overdrive, imagine the arrogance. Who the hell do you nitwits think you are that your views should never be negated? You online bullies are  just so despicable.

Get a life. You and everything you represent are a waste of time. Worthless maggot.

Can you imagine this wayward vituperation? Absolute and unimaginable nonsense coming from a deranged child. Do not give money to beggers on the road side. Full and final Stop! if you are arrested you go to court to challenge it with evidence. thats what the courts are for.

coming here to chant this and that and bringing mindless and completely irrelevant things that run contrary to common sense just leaves me breathless. Ah ah what is wrong with these people?

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Please can somebody tell me if giving to the Nigerian Police who by every definition falls under the classification of beggars will earn me 2 years too, cos this might get some people being shot at for refusal to give money to them.

LOL. well we already know who and what this law is supposed to address. I personally wish to see ALL them beggers off lagos roads.

Eko Ile:

lol @ Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King. What's next? This is a civil rights issue and the beggars are fighting for their civil rights hun?

Must I even waste my time attending to this stitched up irrelevant and all over the place rubbish?

LOL! Just ignore the pro 01 goon. His ignorance has metastasized and has entered terminal stage.

pro01:

With due respect, sir, you seem mentally incapacitated. The fact that you hate beggars so much does not give your views pre-eminence over others. We're making a case for the sense in a given law, and you're busy confuscating the issues. . .due to no fault of yours I reckon; one can't reason beyond his limited mental capacity. And of course you're too obtuse to know that you cannot prove to a court that Mr. A is a beggar and Mr B (stranded citizen) is not, even though they both engaged in the same act of publicly soliciting for financial assistance. And that Mr C. would be commiting a crime by giving money to Mr. A, but wouldn't be commiting a crime by giving money to Mr. B. These contextual  nuances are too complex for simpletons like you to comprehend. The fact remains that the law cannot tell me who to give money to and who not to. Unless of course I'm contributing money towards some criminal enterprise - in which case I would then be rightly regarded as an accomplice for aiding and abetting crime. But as long as such money is spent for perfectly legal (and in fact charitable) ends, then any law that purports to compel me to spend my money this or that way is totally senseless. . .and would of course appeal to folks like you that are devoid of sense.

Another thrash. No need wasting my time with you.

pro01:

You should quit running your mouth with the ridiculous and ill-fitting examples you cited above. It's 'clear-cut' that you have no clue about law, its applications, contexts, and enforceability. . . so because I'm not above the law, it would be illegal for me to give my own money to a stranded stranger simply becuase Fashola said so? Who is a 'beggar' in the eyes of the law? How do you differentiate a beggar from a stranded citizen who solicits for help from a kind hearted fellow citizen? How do you contextualize that in the eyes of the law? Any random id.iot with a tiny bit of common sense would see all sorts of complications and nuances that render this foolish law sterile, unenforceable, and dead-on-arrival. Soon it would be illegal to exchange pleasantries with an acqaintance in public, simply because Fashola said so. Was law made for man or was man made for law? Some laws are STU.PID and should be challenged in a democratic society, not meekly obeyed simply because 'you're not above the law'. I wonder what the world would have been like today if the likes of Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King had this slavish mentality of yours. Please stop pretending to know what you're talking about.

With all respect, your comment is devoid of common sense. We are talking about the obvious beggers on the roads, roundsbouts, with children running and begging while their parents prods them. You know the beggers we are talking about so please stop typing nonsense. I maintain that such comments like yours come from people who to not live in Lagos. If you truly live or lived in Lagos, you would not pile your ignorant dung high up to the heavens.

Babapupa made very good comment that you so ignorantly replied to. Please stop talking nonsense! Hiss

Foster-Pig:

its time to deport all the omoyibo beggars back to anambra and delta.omyiboalways begging me for chop money.

Don't delude yourself. Igbos don't need your pittance! On the contrary you are the one moving about with a collection plate.
you and your hungry household are the beggers that will be sent off

Eko Ile:


You just have to excuse his ignorance, he ignored my post for obvious reasons. Many of them know nothing about Lagos state or any of it's activities,they crawl the internet looking fo silly and pointless nonsense to ignorantly rant about.

Thanks o jare. I can bet most posters here do not even live in Lagos. These beggers are a menace pure and simple!

pro01:

My guy, that is exactly what the Lagos state government ought to emulate - they don't have the power to do more than that. They should rather be beseeching, persuading, advising, exhorting, urging citizens not to encourage the nuisance of beggars by giving alms. My annoyance is COMPELLING citizens by promulgating a draconian law to that effect; a law that is totally inconsistent with the constitution and manifestly not enforceable nor is it justiceable. You cannot attempt to tackle the problem by threatening to arrest those who give alms - it is well within their fundamental/constitutional rights to do so. This is a democracy, not a totalitarian or fascist state where one id.iot can just wake up one morning to instruct us on how to spend our own money.

Well bro, begging and prodding and urging and beseeching does not get things done in Lagos or even in Nigeria

pro01:

This is a stu.pi.d law from beginning to end. If you want to get rid of beggars, why not get them off the streets into social centres that at least guarantees them free meals and vocational training? Having failed in your responsibility in that regard, you cannot now arrest a person that chooses to give alms to misfortunate people. There is no body that is officially tagged or designated as a 'beggar' in the eyes of the law. . .so how enforceable is this idiotic law? Besides the constitution (which is the grund norm) guarantees me freedom of association. . .which includes the right to 'associate' with homeless or unprivileged people; to all intents and purposes, therefore, this idiotic law is inconsistent with the constitution, and is accordingly null & void. Even in the USA there are destitutes and homeless people in street corners who solicit and receive alms from sympathetic passers' by. But again, Nigeria always likes to come first from behind in everything st.upid.

I would go out right now and give alms to any beggar I see; I challenge any goon of the Lagos state government to arrest me so that I would challenge the foolish law in court. I wonder when Nigeria would learn to develop methodically and stop this altoo-familiar knee-jerk approach of always putting the cart before the horse. Absolute nonsense.

Oga, Lagos state have in many instances in the recent past removed these beggers but they always made it back to lagos even when some of them were 'deported' to their states of origin. This is a social issue and I am confident its the best thing to do.

Do having failed to achieve any success by removing them, the government has resorted to the law and has banned aims giving to them. This is to me a better approach. When these beggers no longer receive money, then they cannot purchase anything they like including drugs and weapons that make life miserable for law abiding citizens.

I know you are sentimental about this development but I think fashioa and the Lagos state assembly are right on this one. As a good citizen I think you are, you are bound to accept it or challenge it. I know you can't and won't!
when these beggers no longer get money, I an sure they would seriously consider their next best alternative which is to enroll in government programs or other private initiatives that have been set ul for their benefit

alj_harem:

gbammmmm

supported

Oga, what's the cause of begging? Is it lack of education, lack of opportunities, lack of healthcare, lack of commonsense, lack ofhuman feeling, laziness, stubbornness, religious beliefs, corruption,wickedness, competition, etc? What exactly is the cause of begging and what should fasola do? Why should Lagos state provide for the whole country? Why must every handicapped person aggravate towards Lagos? How can the economy of Lagos be sustained if its workforce are all handicapped beggers? And why must the government do everything?
i saw our guard in Lagos. He abandoned his post in Abuja and was riding okada in Lagos. Lagos has a strong gravitational pull for these beggers because they are also swayed by the promise of hitting it big begging.

alj_harem:

i think u have a very big problem with people

you call a certain set o people a disease just because they are begging you for money

what kind of people do we have in nigeria sef

Oga, let's be realistic. If you don't have money to feed, how can you have money for healthcare? Keeping healthy is very expensive and so called 'rich people' can't afford it. So when next you see the Lagos beggers swap body fluids with them ok?
and I amnot being derogatory. I am just saying it as I see it. I don't have to be sanctimonius about this and you don't have the moral priviledges to judge me.
I have suffered because if these beggers and I am recounting my experiences.

I lived in Lagos for 4 years. I was robbed four times, the last two at gun point. These  beggars are a menace! Theybeseige your vehicle, spit on your windows, curse you when you don't give them money. Now they leave long scratches on your vehicle as well. For the crippled ones, the roll under moving vehicles, endanger peoples lives and theirs. My cousin actually killed one because he wanted to pass underneath his truck. So why are we all complaiing?
these beggars carry diseases. I close mywindows whenever they are in sight. My kids are forbidden from touching or speaking to them. I will whole heartedly support other alternatives to tackling this menace on Lagos roads.
yes you may be here and play sanctimonious but in this particular matter they should be removed from the roads. They are a danger to tourists, our kids, our safety and our health.
of course the agberos should also be tackled but I think its one after the other. And yes majority of these beggars are not from Lagos. They are clearly from the north. They should be sent right back to the north! Let their corrupt governors, who benefit parasitically from this ineffective federal structure we run, who propagate sharia, who encourage this almajiri scourge, at least provide common immunization to their teeming 11 year old wives with VVF and spare me, the southern infidel, this nonsense.

Sorry am so angry right now,

This poster is WELL within his rights to post this here. Its really not about living in america or not, he said he cannot stand the thought of putrefying meat in a mouth that he is kissing.

I for one dont like bad breadth and I floss occasionally but i brush like 4 times daily. I love my partner to death and the only time I dont even notice the breadth is when i am so horn.y.

That said he wants to know how he can approach the topic with prospective dates. He simply wants a lady who is aware about dental hygiene because truth be told, if you see whats in peoples mouth, you will not even kiss anyone

So please, cut this man some slack.

And BTW, gay men are known to be exceedingly clean(especially when they are dealing with women), but they will eat anything from a man and even ask for more. Hope this poster isnt a closet case,


Well anyway teach the babe what you stand for and hope she would learn.

If after trying everything ie normal hygiene and the baby still has bad breadth, then its time for organ test.

Have you checked his liver, his pancreas etc. some bad breadth actually come from the stomach and the small u are experiencing could as well be a symptom of an underlying illness,

See a doctor

^^^^

Once its china, hmmmmmm! those people are something else oh
I really think import issues in nigeria is very discouraging

I am seriously discouraged right now about sending my furniture and household equipments.
If for books and laptop I am made to pay this amount of money, what happens when i send my sofa's, rugs, TV, fridges, cookers, washing machine, beds etc?
Is there anyone who can send these items without problems from switzerland? I do not think I have the stomach to use dhl again.

or is it better to put the items in a container? but I am not buying a car, and that may be a waste of space and may be more expensive.
Any ideas on how to move large household furniture and bulky stuff?

Hey People,

The items were finally released this afternoon. And yes, Money changed hands. he paid N15,000 to bail the items without receipt!
Naija we hail thee

I am seriously thinking of a fresh vegetable mart. Its very difficult getting fresh stuff in Nigeria seriously. The carrots we eat are all shrivelled, tomatoes are all rotten and badly preserved. poorly handled and full of germs.

I am wondering if there is any opportunity for a frozen food vegetable market in Nigeria. I know there are a lot of vegetables wasting in the country but I think people may just patronise properly preserved and fresh vegetable stores. Or are we just content picking rotten and nutritionally deficient fruits and vegetables?

What do you think?

sigh!

@ Agba 123

Thanks

Will do so asap! Actually waiting for him to get there and find out whats amiss

Thanks all,

The DHL way bill is still showing ' clearance processing complete at Lagos". Its now almost 2 weeks and I am so afraid about the safety of the items.

I have sent someone to their Awolowo Road office to find out what's happening. I sent a laptop to my aunty last year and the same thing happened. She went to Lagos airport to see a custom man holding the laptop and asking for 'something' before he can release it. She haggled and eventually did not pay anything to him before collecting the item.

any ideas anyone,

People, I may have a problem with my goods

They were personal effects, 10 text books, 1 laptop, 2 shirts and 2 shoes. I sent these items to my younger sister. The books were her personal items anyway. The package was less than 8kg.

Now i check the DHL waybill and it seems stuck in Lagos for 11 days now. Now i am hearing I have to pay import duty!

What sort of thing is this? has anyone experienced such with the nigerian customs?

DeeJay20:

Oh what a pity, so even yourself does not know what a "No fly zone is" and to make matters worse you dont even
know that the USA is the Founders, leader and supplies 70% of the Military force of NATO, please stop displaying your ignorance here.

Since I dont know what a no fly zone is, can you kindly explain what it is?
For people like you who peddle untruth, a simple wikipedia post would suffice,

Initial NATO planning for a possible no-fly zone took place in late February and early March,[66] especially by NATO members France and the United Kingdom.[67] France and the United Kingdom were early supporters of a no-fly zone and have sufficient airpower to impose a no-fly zone over the rebel-held areas, although they might need additional assistance for a more extensive exclusion zone.
The U.S. has the air assets necessary to enforce a no-fly zone, but was cautious to support such an action prior to obtaining a legal basis for violating Libya's sovereignty. However, due to the sensitive nature of military action by the U.S. against an Arab nation, the U.S. has sought Arab participation in the enforcement of a no-fly zone.
At a congressional hearing, United States Secretary of Defense Robert Gates explained that "a no-fly zone begins with an attack on Libya to destroy the air defences , and then you can fly planes around the country and not worry about our guys being shot down. But that's the way it starts."[68]
On 19 March, the deployment of French fighter jets over Libya began,[14] and other states began their individual operations. Phase One started the same day with the involvement of the United States, United Kingdom, France, Italy and Canada.[69]
On 24 March, NATO ambassadors agreed that NATO will take command of the no-fly zone enforcement, while other military operations remained the responsibility of the group of states previously involved, with NATO expected to take control as early as 26 March.[70] The decision was made after meetings of NATO members to resolve disagreements over whether military operations in Libya should include attacks on ground forces.[70] The decision will create a two-level power structure overseeing military operations. In charge politically will be a committee, led by NATO, that includes all states participating in enforcing the no-fly zone, while NATO alone will be responsible for military action.[71] Lieutenant General Charles Bouchard has been appointed to command the NATO military mission



For emphasis, for those of you that call USA names, its the British and French than championed this NATO libyan aggression.
Again,


Forces committed are:

orces committed
These are the forces committed in alphabetical order.
Belgium: Six F-16 Falcon fighter jets of the Belgian Air Component are stationed at Araxos, Greece, and flew their first mission in the afternoon of 21 March.[79] They are monitoring the no-fly zone and have successfully attacked ground targets with no collateral damage on 27 March, as reported by the Belgian Ministry of Defence.[80] The Belgian Naval Component minehunter BNS Narcis is assisting in the naval blockade.
Bulgaria: The Bulgarian Navy Wielingen class frigate Drazki will participate in the naval blockade, along with a number of "special naval forces", two medical teams and other humanitarian help.[81][82][83] The frigate is scheduled to leave port on 27 April and arrive off the coast of Libya on 2 May, where it will patrol for one month before returning to Bulgaria.[84]
Canada: Canadian Forces Air Command has deployed seven (6 front line, 1 reserve) CF-18 fighter jets, two CC-150 Polaris refuelling aircraft, two CC-177 Globemaster III heavy transports, two CC-130J Super Hercules tactical transports, and two CP-140 Aurora maritime patrol aircraft. In total 440 military personnel as well as the Halifax-class frigate HMCS Charlottetown are participating in operations.[85][86][87][88] There are reports that there are members of JTF2 working with Britain’s SAS and SBS on the ground in Libya.[89]
Denmark: The Royal Danish Air Force is participating with six F-16AM fighters, one C-130J-30 Super Hercules military transport plane and the corresponding ground crews. Only four F-16s will be used for offensive operations, while the remaining two will act as reserves.[90] The first airstrikes from Danish aircraft were carried out on March 23, with four aircraft making twelve sorties as part of Operation Odyssey Dawn.[75]
France: French Air Force which realizes 25% of NATO's strikes is participating in the mission with 51 Mirage and Rafale Aircraft. In addition, the French Navy anti-air destroyer Forbin and the frigate Jean Bart are participating in the operations. [91] On 22 March, the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle was sent to be positioned in international waters near Crete to provide military planners with a rapid-response air combat capability.[92] Accompanying the Charles de Gaulle are the frigates Dupleix, Aconit, the fleet replenishment tanker Meuse and one nuclear attack submarines SNA[93] France will also station three Mirage-2000 aircraft at Souda Bay, Crete.[94]
Greece: The Elli-class frigate Limnos of the Hellenic Navy is currently in the waters off Libya as part of the naval blockade.[95] The Hellenic Air Force provides Super Puma search-and-rescue helicopters and an Embraer 145 AEW&C airborne radar plane.[94][96][97][98]
Italy: Four Tornado ECRs of the Italian Air Force participated in SEAD operations, supported by two Tornado IDS variants in an air-to-air refuelling role and four F-16 ADF fighters as escort.[99] As of 24 March, the Italian Navy is engaged in Operation Unified Protector with the light aircraft carrier Garibaldi, the Maestrale-class frigate Libeccio and the Etna-class auxiliary ship Etna.[100] Additionally the Horizon-class frigate Andrea Doria and Maestrale-class frigate Euro are patrolling off the Sicilian coast in an air-defence role.[101][102]
Jordan: Six Royal Jordanian Air Force fighter jets landed at a coalition airbase in Europe on 4 April to provide "logistical support" and act as an escort for Jordanian transport aircraft using the humanitarian corridor to deliver aid and supplies to opposition-held Cyrenaica, according to Foreign Minister Nasser Judeh. He did not specify the type of aircraft or what specific roles they may be called upon to perform, though he said they were not intended for combat.[103]
NATO: E-3 airborne early warning and control (AWACS) aircraft operated by NATO and crewed by member states help monitor airspace over the Mediterranean and in Libya.[104]
Netherlands: The Royal Netherlands Air Force provides six F-16AM fighters and a KDC-10 refuelling plane. These aircraft are stationed at the Decimomannu Air Base on Sardinia. Four F-16s are flying patrols over Libya, while the other two are being kept in reserve.[105] Additionally, the Royal Netherlands Navy has deployed the Tripartite-class minehunter HNLMS Haarlem to assist in enforcing the weapons embargo.[106]
Norway: The Royal Norwegian Air Force has deployed six F-16AM fighters to Souda Bay Air Base.[76][77][107] On March 24, the Norwegian F16s were assigned to the US North African command and Operation Odyssey Dawn. A number of the aircraft have participated in operations over Libya.[76][77] Prime minister Jens Stoltenberg also stated that Norway will participate in the humanitarian aid to follow.[108]
Qatar: The Qatar Armed Forces are contributing six Mirage 2000-5EDA fighter jets and two C-17 strategic transport aircraft to coalition no-fly zone enforcement efforts.[109] The Qatari aircraft are stationed in Crete.[92]
Romania: The Romanian Naval Forces will participate in the naval blockade with the frigate Regele Ferdinand.[110]
Spain: The Spanish Armed Forces are participating with four F-18 fighters, a Boeing 707-331B(KC) tanker aircraft, the Álvaro de Bazán-class frigate Méndez Núñez, the submarine Tramontana and one CN-235 MPA maritime surveillance plane.[111]
Sweden: The Royal Swedish Air Force will commit eight JAS 39 Gripen jets for the international air campaign after being asked by NATO to take part in the operations on 28 March.[112][113] Sweden will also send a Saab 340 AEW&C for airborne early warning and control and a C-130 Hercules for aerial refueling.[114] In a recent poll some 65 percent of Swedes want their state to take part in the international air campaign to enforce a no-fly zone over Libya.[115] Seven of Sweden’s eight parliament parties are in favour of contributing Swedish military assets to the no-fly zone.[116] Sweden is the only country neither a member of NATO nor the Arab League participating in the no-fly zone.
Turkey: The Turkish Navy will participate with five ships and one submarine in the NATO-led naval blockade to enforce the arms embargo. It is additionally providing six F-16 Fighting Falcon jets for aerial operations.[117] On 24 March, Turkey's parliament approved Turkish participation in military operations in Libya, including enforcing the NFZ in Libya.[118]
United Arab Emirates: On 24 March, the United Arab Emirates Air Force sent six F-16 Falcon and six Mirage 2000 fighter jets to join the mission. The planes are based at the Italian airbase at Decimomannu, Sardinia.[119][120]
United Kingdom: The United Kingdom has deployed vessels such as the Royal Navy frigates HMS Westminster (F237) and HMS Cumberland (F85), nuclear attack submarines HMS Triumph (S93) and HMS Turbulent (S87), the destroyer HMS Liverpool (D92) and the mine countermeasure vessel HMS Brocklesby (M33).[121] The Royal Air Force has 12 Tornado and 10 Typhoon fighters operating initially from Great Britain, now forward deployed to the Italian base at Gioia del Colle. Surveillance aircraft such as the Nimrod R1 and Sentinel R1 are forward deployed to RAF Akrotiri in support of the action. In addition the RAF have deployed a number of other support aircraft such as the Sentry AEW.1 AWACS aircraft, VC10 and TriStar K1 air-to-air refuelling tankers. According to anonymous sources, members of the SAS, SRR and SBS help to coordinate the air strikes on the ground in Libya.[122][123][124]
United States: The United States has deployed a naval force of 11 ships, including the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge, the amphibious transport dock USS Ponce, the guided-missile destroyers USS Barry and USS Stout, the nuclear attack submarines USS Providence and USS Scranton, the cruise missile submarine USS Florida and the amphibious command ship USS Mount Whitney.[125][126][127] Additionally, A-10 ground-attack aircraft, B-2 stealth bombers, AV-8B Harrier II jump-jets, EA-18 electronic warfare aircraft, and both F-15 and F-16 fighters have been involved in action over Libya.[128] U-2 reconnaissance aircraft are stationed on Cyprus.[129] On 18 March, two AC-130Us arrived at RAF Mildenhall as well as additional tanker aircraft.[citation needed] On 24 March 2 E-8Cs operated from Naval Station Rota Spain, which indicates an increase of ground attacks.[citation needed] An undisclosed number of CIA operatives are said to be in Libya to gather intelligence for airstrikes and make contacts with rebels.[130] The U.S. also began using MQ-1 Predator UAVs to strike targets in Libya on 23 April



[size=16pt]So please where did you get the info that america supplied 70% of the military hardware? Where did you get the info? [/size]

Blazing99:

Guys cant we open our eyes to see the hypocrisy of the WEST?

1. They declared a No-fly Zone in Libya under the UN resolution of 1973

2. They breached the No-fly zone by bombing Libya's military facilities

3. They sent delegations to the rebels and welcomed their delegates to their nations

4. They begun trading [size=15pt]OIL[/size] for weapons with the rebels

5. They delivered arms to the rebels

6. They sent their military officers to train rebels

7. Ground troops are being prepared for possible Libyan Invasion.

8. Begun boming civillian residences of which Ghadaffi's children and grandchildren were victims.

I cant believe we Nigerians see an African nation about to be invaded and all we can say is beat to the tune of the West and their biased regional union called NATO? Colonial mentality, still very imminent in the 21st century.




Nice Analysis Komekhn though I dont dig all your opinions.

Do you really know what no fly zone is? For a no fly zone to be possible, Ghadaffis complete air defence/capability system has to be neutralised. You cannot expect to have a no fly zone with anti aircraft missiles churning rockets at domestic and military aircrafts. No fly zone is not a lip service declaration, it is a military operation!

Why is it that his closest allies deserted him after the war started? why did his daughter flee to spain? Gadaffi is not even loved by his people so why are you here crying over another persons headache?

NATO came in because AU was impotent. So stop complaining.

@ cap 28

So you just trawl cyberspace spewing venom. Is it that you dont have something worthy doing? or are you a psychiatric case?
Go to bed, you lonely rejected internet misfit. If you are looking for attention, start by saying 'Hello, my name is cap28, and I am a lonely, frustrated and unloved internet troll'. Maybe you may get someone equally deluded that can say hello in return.

cap28:

Your illiteracy is now shining through - first of all america's (NATO'S) intervention in libya was done on the basis of UNCORROBORATED EVIDENCE - it was also done IN BREACH OF THE UN CHARTER which categorically states that it is illegal for member states to intervene militarily in the internal affairs of other member states, also america went ahead with the intervention without getting authorisation from congress - so i would like you to now explain to me why despite america's clear breach of all of the above, you are now describing  its intervention in libya as legal

After this post, I will ignore you! I do not have the time to pander to the whims of every rabid internet troll. Go get a life you m.oron!

morpheus24:

In a couple of posts from now you will be labeled a western apologist, saboteur and traitor to the destruction of the imperialists and the realization of the black man's destiny by Cap28. The IMF, stealing of oil and Goldman sachs may also be mentioned shortly.


lol

LOL! As if you knew the drunk internet champion is having an erection on my case.

obailala:

Ghaddafi might be a bad man but NATO and the US have absolutely no right to invade a sovereign nation.

When they went for the [b]Oil [/b]in Iraq, they claim Saddam killed his people in the 80s and that he was developing WMDs. Almost a decade after they invaded iraq, they have killed over 100 times more innocent persons than they claimed saddam killed in a period of 30 yrs and they found no WMDs. Presently with their 'success' in iraq, they now comfortably control Iraqi oil

Just late last year, Ghaddafi raised an issue of "Nationalising Libyan oil" The US felt their oil supply could be threatened. In order to satisfy their insatiable lust for oil, they knew something had to be done to ghaddafi. Next thing we see is a group of rebels arising in Libya to topple the government and what we hear in the world media (which is controlled by the US) is "Ghaddafi is killing his own people".  Perfect opportunity to strike and replace the strong headed dictator with a US loyalist is born.

"We are going there only to protect the innocent civilians" but next thing we hear is a barage of bombs landing on Ghaddaffi's palace.

My advice to Ghaddafi, "give these people the oil they truly want and have your peace."

Please stop bundling the US with NATO! Cant you people leave the USA alone for once?

There was tremendous pressure for NATO to get involved in stemming the use of force on Libyans. But before NATO could get involved, weather militarily, there must be clear LEGAL backing and international support. In order words there must be clear and demonstrable need for NATO and a strong regional and legal basics.

NATO did not cause the uprising in Tunisia that spread to egypt, libya, syria, yemen, bahrain, saudi.
Ghadaffi has to leave before peace returns to libya, and leave he must either dead or alive.

cap28:

How is it that someone as s.tupid as you is able to switch on a computer without blowing yourself up

Now listen very carefully while i drum this information into your porous brain - NATO is a US creation, from its inception in 1949 to date it has and remains under the control of the US, primarily becuse it was created in order to counter the military might of america's greatest threat - russia - from 1949 to date ALL NATO operations have to be authorised by america before they are implemented, but you wouldnt know any of this because you are a semi illiterate who is  unable to read  books unless they have words in them that are printed in capital letters accompanied by pictures.

Just the other day US senators john mc cain, joe lieberman and lindsey graham were openly calling for the assassination of gadaffi - perhaps if that mass of cotton wool in your head you call a brain was capable of intelligent thought you would have deciphered a link between those calls and the current action which has now taken place - but obviously im being too charitable because people like you are so dumb that unless someone actually sits you down and explains things to you very slowly it is hihgly unlikely that you will understand what is going on.

Dullard, you are very good at babbling like an i.diot but very low on intelligence, american oil companies in libya were until very recently making millions in oil profits from the lucrative oil and gas contracts with the gadaffi regime, that is until gadaffi started talking about nationalising  the entire libyan oil industry, i know your ignorant brain has no concept of what that would mean for an oil company but this would have meant millions of dollars in lost profits for these corporations, somethign they were not prepared to let happen - therefore in order to counter this huge threat to their finanacial interests they have resorted to military intervention - the end goal for america and europe if they defeat gadaffi is the takeover of the oil reserves and the  privatisation of the entire libyan oil industry .

Also  the oil reserves in libya are not the only reason that america is interested in annexing the country, libya also operates an independent banking system  which is not linked into the international banking cartel controlled by the US controlled IMF and world bank, as a result libya is able to finance vast infrastructure projects without ever having to borrow or owe a penny to these predatory western controlled banks with their draconian interest rates and repayment conditions - again somethign i wouldnt expect someone as stu.pid as you to know.

Do you have any proof that gadaffi used mercenaries to kill nigerians?  If you do i would like you to post it here on NL, by the way if you want to know who actually has been killing black africans i suggest you look towards benghazi, darna and the entire  eastern region of libya where the so called rebels continue to lynch black african migrant workers and falsely accuse them of being mercernaries.

My friend, shu.t up.

NATO is not a child of the USA. USA was included in the organisation after the Europeans deemed it necessary for the USA to maintain military balance against the USSR. If NATO were American, how come the headquarters is in brussels belgium? Stop feeding your brains with chalk!

a lot of people are calling for Gadhaffis execution even in the UK, France and Germany. so how do you think because a few popular americans called for his death, that makes it solely an american led NATO imperative?

And what about the oil, IMF and the ability of libya to finance projects? What are you talking about? So china and russia with all the wads in their coolers are also ripe for military intervention?

You just manufacture conspiracy theories and pulsate in excitement because I gave you the opportunity to exchange words on cyber space.

You are indeed stu.pid.

ibedun:

This is the sign of things to come.

If the Europeans take North Africa, then the whole of Africa is doomed.

If you think the militarised powerful countries will stand idly by and let you control the resources they depend on and are vital to their own survival - then have your head examined.

The black man's days are numbered. If you dont know it hear it now!

He is powerless, clueless, cannot feed his women, his children (sons and daughters), cannot defend his territory. Steals all the wealth in his homeland to hide abroad where foreigner take the lot from him, controls it and pays him a paltry interest. He soaks himself in unneccesary materialism boasting of 'having' this and that - things he cannot even produce (cars, clothes, phones, houses,  just name it). Throws away $100s Billions on consumer products every other day.

Begs and pays dearly for the most basic of human necessities - food!!! Violate the laws of his land, can hardly sit down and agree the way forward with his own kind, builds nothing, develops nothing, contributes nothing.

Destroying himself at every turn - deseases abound, illiteracy, ignorance, little foresight, no infrastructure, no light, no farms, no nothing, sleepy, lazy, slavish,.

Africa is free for all - a big, fat, juicy pssy waiting to be bleeped.

It wont happen tomorrow, not next year , but surely somewhere in the not too distant generational future. DAMN! Tell me I am mad please. Tell me!

Ibedun, LOL

Well, dont worry about the europeans taking over north africa, instead worry about Jonathan depleting our foreign reserves

MandingoII:

Nigga are you CRAZY!!!

unless you talking about Africans, then again you are STILL undereducated to make such a post.

White people oppress/ and have oppressed everybody.

white people are NOT going to look at Blacks as EQUALS!!!

they never have and NEVER WILL.

As a Blackman I've learned to TAKE what I want from this land.  By my efforts/hardwork/education and the OPPORTUNITIES that present themselves.

OPPORTUNITIES ARE REMOVED from African nations, and given to a few.

Middleclass and uppity Blacks of all nations RARELY will do anything to give up their STATUS.

IT MUST BE TAKEN.  If African countries or Black Americans want a better life, WE HAVE TO TAKE IT FROM THE WHITE OLIGARTHS and plutocrats,


YOU ONE DUMBA/S/S african Morpheus, You have become westernized and LAZY.

Mandingo II or whatever you call yourself

Please shut up. You sound stu.pid and d.runk.

Look to the asians. China and south korea and singapore. nobody held them down they simply developed by their own efforts.
In this world if you dont sit up others will overtake you. You do not need to take anything from the white people, simply sit down and develop your own.

Besides the body of literature and science that fuelled the industrial era is available for all to see. you already know the processes to build a car, a ship, a satellite, even a bomb. Its the ability to harness what is available before us to solve our problems that makes a difference.

Until we do that, sorry, we aint going anywhere.

You have nothing to take from the sol called white oligarchs. all you need is before you.

vocalist:

ENOUGH of all this rubbish dat Obama n his people are doing to African I mean it is humiliating and it is undesirable, y ar they TAKING  the problem of Libyans upon themselves, Honestly speaking I am not a fans of Gaddafi, but i fink Gaddafi did not commit any serious offense dat will warrant the American to go to the extend of killing innocent children, I mean let us speak the truth for once, I fink we Africans we've come of age to cater for ourselves without the advent of Obama, I think we have elites who can settle our leadership tussle and predicament, How I wish dat our African leaders will arise and fight for the freedom of African, I mean Gaddafi children and grandchildren should be left out of this problem and let Obama and his people go and mind their own problem, n not destroying our Africans Brothers.  Honestly I am not comfortable with this development. Let us not rejoice in evil, OBAMA HAVE DONE MORE HARM DAN GOOD IN THE AFRICAN CONTINENT.

My dear, Libya is not your african brother. Get that into your head. There is nothing that suggests any 'brotherhood' except for the fact that we are 'unfortunate' enough to be labelled as africans.

It took french intervention to end the crisis in Ivory Coast. where was the so called 'african leaders' and why was it they could not 'settle our leadership problems'?  so how have we 'come of age to cater for ourselves'?

Apart from making useless noise, what has African Union achieved in this Libyan crisis?

Seriously you make me laugh.

Leave the Americans alone. Go home to your room, lie down, cover your head with a dark blanket and have a well deserved self reflection.

cap28:


Barack Hussein Obama is an abomination and a complete disgrace to the black race, any black person who still thinks this man is worthy of respect or admiration needs their head examined, how would he feel if his wife and two daughters were killed by a group of murderous terrorists,  Obama its not too late for you to do the right thing and refuse to carry on with this madness, dont forget that John and Robert Kennedy refused to bow to the american military industrial complex, they stood up for the truth, Obama now is the time for you to stop acting like a fu.king paid up political pros.titute and instrument of the murderous zionist murderers who control you and STOP THIS MADNESS IN LIBYA ONCE AND FOR ALL.

LOL. Idiot! Clearly seems you are a muslim, very angry that america has finally killed the urchin osama. LOL again.
Go and eat pork and tell me how nice it tastes, uncut pretentious bastard.
So who are the zionist murderers? who are they? I wish I could just give you a well deserved back hand. Idiot!