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Politics › Re: A Clarion Call- Ndigbo Rise Against Wike's Genocide In Obigbo! Rise! by Igboid: 3:41pm On Nov 01, 2020
Eastlink:
So you are now judging all Ikwerres because of Wike? Change from this mentality Pazienza. Stop being too narrow minded, it will damage you. Wike isn’t speaking for the Ikwerres. A lot Ikwerre in my groups are as angry as you. Stop this nonsense. Stop this nonsense you are doing? Wike is making a mistake by not seeking advice before acting. Don't make this an Ikwerre affair. The Ikwerre’s are not in support of him.

Change from this sentiments in your head.
Wike speaks for Ikwerre people as much as Ogbakor Ikwerre does.

Few Ikwerre friends of yours who probably have immediate link to SE being upright on Igbo matters cannot cover the truth that Ikwerre people on the majority as represented by Ogbakor Ikwerre are a very Igbophobic lots and Wike epitomizes them.

Let Ikwerre people, especially Ogbakor Ikwerre release a public statement denying Wike Igbophobic activities ever since he has been the governor of Rivers.

Unlike people like you, I don't pander to emotions once it comes to Igbo matters, I am usually ice cold.
And you are not the only one with Ikwerre friends.
I once lived in Obio akpor too for a year plus and had many experiences as well as Ikwerre friends.
Don't confuse your personal relationship with few good Ikwerre with Ikwerre Igbophobic disposition as an independent ethnic nationality.
Politics › Re: What Happened In Oyigbo by Igboid: 3:22pm On Nov 01, 2020
babytoun:
When did the OP say so ..

Why una logic always dey warped ..why ?
Do you have pictorial evidence to support the fabrication that it was IPOB and not Nigerian youths as witnessed everywhere else during the EndSARS protest that committed whatsoever that happened in Obiigbo that same period?
Politics › Re: A Clarion Call- Ndigbo Rise Against Wike's Genocide In Obigbo! Rise! by Igboid: 3:20pm On Nov 01, 2020
DiagnoPolitics:
Wike is known very well by some of us who are conversant with Rivers politics as a rabid anti-Igbo Ikwerre man. He tries very hard to hide it in order to earn votes and supports but his body language always betray him because he is not very brainy and smart. He is a bloody alarmist, the type who will kill in the bush and run out of the bush to ask "Who is killing in the bush?!".

Ndigbo in PDP should be sensitized about Wike and his likes and what he has in the offing for our tribe. He must now be made in irrelevant in that party where he still has ambitions. Let him run to the APC after 2023, his political opponents and sharks who have called for his head on a plate are eager to "welcome" him. Good riddance!
Wike is a typical Ikwerre man with deep sitted Igbophobia, which is why I don't take IPOB and Ohaneze Ndiigbo serious as long as both keep entertaining Ikwerres in their midst while delusionally and stupidly claiming brotherhood with a people harbouring more hate for Ndiigbo than even SW and North.
Both groups(IPOB and Ohanaeze) are useless even to themselves, which is why they are busy scrambling while the house is on fire.

IPOB pose an existential threat to Ndiigbo. Because the whole world knows IPOB as Igbo organization while IPOB stupidly admits many non Igbo's from Igbophobic Minority groups in their group.
It means that these non Igbos in IPOB can be compromised by their own people or anyone else with sinister agenda against Ndiigbo to commit atrocities under the banner of IPOB in the future , knowing fully well that Igbos will be the one to bear the consequences.
Politics › Re: What Happened In Oyigbo by Igboid: 3:13pm On Nov 01, 2020
24SEVEN:
Oga try and get sense. He wrote about events in Rivers State and you're asking about the whole Nigeria. Wike is governor of Rivers and has the constitutional obligation to protect Riverians especially from external factors originating from Abia state which goes by the name IPOB. I support shoot on sight on all IPOB miscreants in Rivers State.
Can you provide evidence that those behind the events in Obiigbo were IPOB?

I remember until video emerged, many of you Igbophobic lots were blaming IPOB for Oba palace looting among other things in Lagos state.

You support shoot on sight on IPOB? Good for you, heaven supports shoot at sight, smell, or hint at you too. Its called Karma.
Politics › Re: What Happened In Oyigbo by Igboid: 10:10pm On Oct 31, 2020
dukeprince50:
Here is a summary of all that happened in Oyigbo.

1. It all started with Ipob youths attacking Hausa's, policemen and also destroying properties.

2.The governor(Wike) of the state asked them(Ipob) to stop, that in his state, every tribe is welcomed and u have no right to kill any body.

3.He(Wike) said every IPOB activities must stop in his state since they(IPOB) are already a terrorist group, he won't allow them operate in his state and also put a N50m bounty on someone and all he needs is useful information that will lead to his arrest.

4.On hearing this, the leader of IPOB(Mazi Nnamdi Kanu) placed a N100m bounty on wike, not a death or alive bounty but that they should bring Wike's head.

5.The governor decided to bring the military to Oyigbo since they(IPOB) are willing to play, he(Wike) was also prepared not to disappoint them

6.Some persons died in the process.(RIP)

7. IPOB: Wike is killing Igbos(Yes, I believed some innocent people may have died.)
So all the police stations attacked all over the country was also by IPOB.
Politics › Re: The North Is Clapping For Wike by Igboid: 3:49pm On Oct 31, 2020
hammerFC:
IKWERE PEOPLE ARE AN IGBO CLAN.


WE SHOULD EVEN STOP CALLING THEM IKWERE AND REFER TO THEM BY THEIR REAL NAME.


WE SHOULD ENDEAVOUR TO CALL THEM INDIVIDUALLY THEIR REAL NAME AND RETURN THE REAL NAMES OF PLACES CHANGED BY THE NIGERIA MILITARY.


THIS IS THE JOB OF IGBOS.



PEOPLE LIKE WIKE THAT DRAW FIRST BLOOD ARE DEAD ALREADY BUT HIS FELLOW IKWERE CANNOT BE BLAMED OR PUNISHED BECOS OF WIKE.


WE WILL KILL WIKE AND THERE IT ENDS.



OK MAYBE HIS ENTIRE LINEAGE TOO WILL BE MURDERED.
Rantings of a brainwashed man.

Ndiigbo must find a way to end IPOB.
Politics › Re: The North Is Clapping For Wike by Igboid: 3:43pm On Oct 31, 2020
hammerFC:
I HAVE ALREADY REPLIED U ABOVE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNJKaDQTrRM
You are obviously incapable of thinking on your own.

Go and listen to the deranged Radio man in London for your today dose of psychosis.

Ndi ara! Ana agwo unu ibi unu ana eto afor. Ndi ubulu eke.
Politics › Re: The North Is Clapping For Wike by Igboid: 3:36pm On Oct 31, 2020
hammerFC:
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF THAT HAVE ALLOWED THIS MADNESS TO CONTINUE.


JOSEPH GOEBBELS SAID A LIE IS TOLD LONG ENOUGH AND KEEP REPEATING IT, PEOPLE WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO BELIEVE IT.



A BIG LIE, CAN BE MAINTAINED ONLY FOR SUCH TIME AS THE STATE CAN SHILED THE PEOPLE FROM THE POLITICAL, ECONOMU AND MILITARY CONSEQUENCES OF THE LIE.




IKWERE IGBO CLAN HAVE TOLD A VERY BIG LIE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.


IT IS NOW TIME TO BURST THEIR BUBBLE.
Chimoo!

You IPOB people are beyond redemption.

Ndiigbo have to purge IPOB out from Igboland if we must survive and fight back our enemies with same hate and venom they use against us.

An Ikwerre man whose people are more Igbophobic than any other Nigerian, who named an Edifice after a man who committed Genocide against Igbos, who released a communique insinuating there are no Igbos in Rivers state, effectively calling Igbos in Obiigbo strangers in their own land, is same man and his people that you senseless IPOB people want to keep calling Igbos.

God will save Ndiigbo from IPOB before IPOB finish Ndiigbo.

Any human being with brain and capacity to think independently will see shades of Igbophobia with what Wike is doing in Obiigbo.
But IPOB members are zombies remotely controlled by a mad man with radio in London, who is interested in building delusional heterogeneous Biafra that include Ikwerre and other minorities in his deranged head, Ndiigbo are now supposed to overlook Wike and Ikwerre Igbophobic induced massacre going on in Obiigbo.

Chukwu kpokwa IPOB oku.
Politics › Re: The North Is Clapping For Wike by Igboid: 3:29pm On Oct 31, 2020
gidgiddy:
If Igbos are being killed today in Nigeria, nobody will be able to distinguish who is Ikwerre and who is Igbo because there is no difference.
What does the above senseless comment have to do with the fact that Wike and his Ikwerre people don't consider themselves Igbos and that Wike have never hid his Igbophobia since he became governor?

Why are you IPOB people this senseless?

Kedu ife na eme unu?
Politics › Re: The North Is Clapping For Wike by Igboid: 3:22pm On Oct 31, 2020
gidgiddy:
Dont judge the Ikwerre by the actions of one man. There are many Ikwerres whose eyes have since opened from civil war propaganda and realise that to deny who they are only benefits the enemy
You IPOB are irredeemable and disgrace to Ndiigbo.

Wike has the support of majority of Ikwerre people and his actions is in consonance with typical Ikwerre Igbophobia.

You IPOBs annoy the living hell out of sensible Igbos with you lack of reasoning abilities. Tufiakwa unu! angry
Politics › Re: A Clarion Call- Ndigbo Rise Against Wike's Genocide In Obigbo! Rise! by Igboid: 2:57pm On Oct 31, 2020
RedPhoenix:
This is what we're talking about. Hatred for Ndigbo. Keep deluding yourselves


When these boys called automatic rifles and went on a killing spree on a community that did them no harm, burning tankers, you didn't talk. When the consequences of their actions befalls them it is hatred for Ndigbo


My friend. Tell them to go to aba even in the common nomenclature of the zoo and do it, if it won't be condemned. Hypocrite.


The only that will shock me is if in your self protectionism you can speak with they hate igbo this, they hate igbo that


Fact check. If anyone has issues with anyone, it's the same thing I've been saying all along on this thread, that some people do not weigh the consequences of actions before executing them... When the consequences comes, they begin to trade blame. Same as the full there in Lagos that killed innocent youths, Babajide Sanwo olu


1. When the boys brought out automatic guns and were firing at the army, what were they expecting ?



2. When the boys brought out automatic guns and were firing at the army, what was Wike's position in this ?



3. What should Wike do, when there's army flocking a community and boys there are shooting at the army in retaliation, and the army requests for backup. What should Wike do in the midst of the whole topsy-turvy scenario that he isn't doing, i dare you to respond rationally?


4. If yoruba boys come to Ndigbo land, forms themselves into a military unit and begins to raise dust with the FG ( which by implication is a call to the military to come start a war with the host community, would you tolerate it as an Ndigbo, tell us )


It's a humane society with good values and principles we want. Not ethnic jingoistis and charlatans masquerading themselves as patriots. Spits.
Don't be stupid.

The indigenes fought back against rogue military personnel who were working with the herdsmen to wreck havoc in the area.
Not different from what is happening in Southern Kaduna.

Fulani terrorists attack the villagers, the villagers fight back. The rogue military comes in to help the herdsmen their kinsmen. The villagers run for safety.
Fulani burn down the villages and kill the natives backed by Nigerian military.

That's what is happening in Obiigbo.

And by the way,Obiigbo people cannot be strangers in their own ancestral land, and they are Igbos. They are not in Ikwerre land or Ijawland. They are in Obiigbo which is part of Igbo land. Rivers state is but an artificial Creation.
Politics › Re: A Clarion Call- Ndigbo Rise Against Wike's Genocide In Obigbo! Rise! by Igboid:
When those of us who know better were talking endlessly about the concentrated Igbophobia in Ikwerre, Ogba and their fellow confused Bini claiming but Igbo speaking Groups in Rivers and Delta. When we insist that these groups harbour more hate for Ndiigbo than even the Hausa Fulani's or Yourubas do. When we posit that these groups are to be avoided by all means by Ndiigbo and recognized as existential threat to Ndiigbo survival, senseless IPOB people called us names and some even labelled us Afonja.

When we pointed out how Ohaneze Ndiigbo had held programs all over the North and SW but were harassed with threats of burning Igbo businesses in PH should they try to host an Ohaneze Day in PH by irrate Bini Ikwerre people, we were called Enemies of Igbo Unity.

When we pointed out how Ogbakor Ikwerre concerned in 2016 in Atlanta USA and mocked Ndiigbo and Biafra, with Omehia emphasizing how Ikwerre are Binis, we were told to keep quiet.

When we pointed out how the Igbo hating Ikwerre Bini Wike renamed a structure in Ikwerre land after Gowon, a man who committed genocide against Ndiigbo. On same event Wike took microphone and thanked Gowon for saving them invaders as he termed Ndiigbo.
The IPOB and her senseless hoardes incapable of retrospective reasoning all shouted us down, with their senseless talk of Igweocha the capital of their delusional Heterogeneous Biafra that would Include all Igbophobic groups in SS and beyond that a certain not so bright man with radio station in London is feeding them.

Now the chicken has come home to roost.
Let's hope they finally grow a Brain.
Politics › Re: A Clarion Call- Ndigbo Rise Against Wike's Genocide In Obigbo! Rise! by Igboid: 1:04pm On Oct 31, 2020
OP.
Well put article.
I couldn't agree more.
You fully understand the politics and intrigue at play in Obiigbo.

I couldn't disagree with a word on your article.
Politics › Re: A Clarion Call- Ndigbo Rise Against Wike's Genocide In Obigbo! Rise! by Igboid: 1:02pm On Oct 31, 2020
Maduawuchukwu:
When IPOB are doing their madness, they do not listen to the counsel of Igbo elders and people but when their actions turn back to hunt them, they will start crying for help from the Igbo nation. You cannot eat your cake and have it.
IPOB is tactless, that is for sure.

But What is going on in Obiigbo is Igbophobia driven and must concern any well breastfed Igbo man.
How Wike an Igbophobic Ikwerre man will wake up one day and proclaim that there are no Igbos in Rivers state, indirectly saying that Obiigbo people who are Igbos in Rivers state are either non existent or are strangers in their own land, should give every right Igbo man sleeplessness nights.

It is important to Ndiigbo as a race that Wike does not get away free with the blood of Igbos he has spilled in Obiigbo.
IPOB or no IPOB. Wike must be brought to justice and made to account for what is happening in Obiigbo.
We would have failed as a people if we let Wike go Scot free.
Culture › Re: Some Untold Facts About Bayelsa State. by Igboid: 10:13am On Oct 30, 2020
AreaFada2:
Lol. Does Degema in Rivers for example have a direct boundary with Edo? Does it stop it from being Edoid? grin cheesy

So you were in Ekpeye 400 years ago to know precisely the language they spoke then?

Oral stories that fit into your tribal prism are genuine but others are fabricated. Wehdon o.
Exacly my point.
Degema is miles away from Edo, yet they speak Edoid language proving their possible Edo origin. Likewise Engenni who happen to be Ekpeye neighbours. They all speak Edoid language


If Ekpeye were Edoid people, their language like those of their Engenni neighbours, Degema and Epie Atissa will reflect it.

Language preserves culture and events of the past.
There exists no single Edo culture or words in Ekpeye language, except the words Igbo share with Edo.
Culture › Re: Some Untold Facts About Bayelsa State. by Igboid: 8:17am On Oct 30, 2020
AreaFada2:
Bayelsa has three Edoid groups: Ofoni/Urhobo, Epie-Atissa & Ekpeye,

Urhobo & E-A are Edoid languages philologically and ethnically, Ekpeye are Edoid by race. Even though many erroneously call Ekpeye Igboid. Fact is some people do not speak the language of their original ethnicity anymore. Due to proximity to & mixing with bigger tribes.

OP seems not to appreciate the meaning of homogeneity.
More like Ekpeye is Edoid by fabricated irrational oral stories.

Because clearly, any researcher worth his salt will see that Ekpeye is Igboid in every sense of the word, and indeed all researchers have always placed Ekpeye under Igboid.

Fact is that Ekpeye at no point in history spoke any Edoid language.
It has no direct boundary with SE, its current language has always been its language.
Politics › Re: Thank You Gov Wike For Taming Ipobs In Rivers State by Igboid: 10:26pm On Oct 29, 2020
Tranquill:
People like you only survive by spreading hate and falsehood mostly manufactured in your warped mentality.

You and your ipod gang members will not survive what will befall you if you continue to disturb the peace of well meaning and reasonable individuals in Rivers State.

You host your filthy ipad flag, you receive a bullet.

Be warned.
Don't be stupid.
I'm not an IPOB member

I can't be a part of a group incapable of deep thinking.

Its good the hostility you minorities are giving IPOB. Hopefully their hierarchy finally grows a brain and do the needful every reasonable Igbo have always told them to do.
Which is to keep the Biafra project a solely Igbo affair.
Politics › Re: Wike Note These Points by Igboid: 10:19pm On Oct 29, 2020
Nwadiuto247:
Wike note these point

1. Don't let your opponents make it look like wiki vs Igbo fight. This can be dangerous to your political carreer and that of Ikwerre. Don't fall into that trap.
Continue to single out ipob.

2. Don't allow the security officers in obigbo to overdo things and create a bad image for you. Hope you are seeing how they are now trying to push the
Lekki blames on the governor of Lagos State. Be careful. They willl always be loyal to Abuja.

3 your opponents are not sleeping. Be wise
Why are you being willfully blind?

Of course this is Wike vs Igbo fight.

Wike like most Ikwerre people are Igbophobic and wike in particular has never hide his Igbophobia.
He is merely hiding behind IPOB to play his usual Igbophobic games.

Wike renamed a public edifice in PH after Gowon and during the procession that followed, told the world how Gowon saved him and his Ikwerre people from invaders from Biafra.

People like you are not so Bright. You can't decipher cryptic messages when dropped on you.

You are too blind to see that people (Wike and co) hate IPOB because it is actually an Igbo group .
IPOB is a victim of Igbophobia MASSOB suffered under too.
As an Igbo, you will be stupid to support any violence against IPOB, because as far as those who we are up against are, IPOB is Igbo and Igbo is IPOB.
Politics › Re: Thank You Gov Wike For Taming Ipobs In Rivers State by Igboid: 10:11pm On Oct 29, 2020
Tranquill:
Continue to disagree as you can see how everyone is abandoning you in your munmunland.

You will be smoked out and annihilated if you don't change from your ipobian st.upidity.

Just do your munmun procession in Rivers State lets see.

A word is enough.
Ikwerre and Wike Igbophobia will consume both entities.
It so happened that IPOB are not very deep thinkers that is the only reason this has degenerated to this.

Hopefully after this, IPOB grows a brain, though I doubt they ever can.
Politics › Re: On The Wike/secondus Vs Yoruba PDP Imbroglio And The Political Naivety Of Ndiigb by Igboid(op): 9:37pm On Oct 29, 2020
Bump.

Ndi IPOB. Do you remember when I made this thread about Wike and his Ikwerre people?
Politics › Re: Thank You Gov Wike For Taming Ipobs In Rivers State by Igboid: 9:12pm On Oct 29, 2020
Amarabae:
Oriaku is not in the mood for long talk.
I thank Gov wike for taming Ipob madness in my maiden state.
I remember opening a thread in which I educated Ipobs about Rivers state and south south but they didn't hear,
the truth is that Rivers state and south south want Restructuring and Resource control,
This heterogenous Biafra thing led by that noise maker in London is a NO NO for me.
he will lead Igbos to the slaughter house if we are not careful
Truth is that this Ipob of a thing is now a sorethroat to Igbos ,
its time to lay low .
don't raise an anti-southeast antics in the state.
enough of Ipob stupidity in the state.
Rivers stands for a Restructured Nigeria
South east will gain the most under a restructured Nigeriq but if Biafra agitation is something you can't drop,
then Limit it to the south east states!
Long live the Igbo nation!!!
I disagree with you.
This is not about IPOB. This is about Ndiigbo.
Wike is hiding behind senseless IPOB to unleash his Igbo phobia on Obiigbo and making too many cryptic Igbophobic statements like he has always made even when IPOB being too dense and incapable of rational thinking were supporting him.
Politics › Re: Thank You Gov Wike For Taming Ipobs In Rivers State by Igboid: 9:06pm On Oct 29, 2020
hammerFC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTZAilVOybE


THIS ANIMAL, WIKE, SAID RIVERS STATE IS ACCOMODATING AND THEY ACCOMMODATE IGBO.


DOES HE THINK THE WHOLE RIVERS STATE BELONG TO IKWERE ?


IN OBIGBO, FULANI ATTACKED WOMEN, MURDERING AND RAPING THEM.



IPOB RESPOND AND WIKE DEPLOY ARMY TO OBIIGBO AND INSIST THE ARMY WILL REMAIN THERE INDEFINITELY.


TOMORROW, WEN POWER SHIFT AGAIN AND WE VISIT IKWERE ENCLAVE WITH DEATH, THEY WILL SAY GOD WAT IS HAPPENING.



AMAECHI HAVE TOLD HIM TO LEAVE IPOB AND GO AFTER FULANI HERDSMEN, BECOS AMAEACHI KNOWS WAT FULANI ARE UPTO ACROSS IGBOLAND, FROM ENUGU TO ANAMBRA, IMO, EBONYI AND ABIA.



WIKE WANT TO BASTARDISE OBIIGBO, BECOS THEY ARE NOT DENYING IGBO LIKE HIS IKWERE BASTARDS.



WAT GOES AROUND WILL SURELY COME AROUND, WE ARE THE LARGER BODY, WE WILL SHOW THEM.


AND AS FOR WIKE, WE WILL GET HIM.
Lol!

So Ikwerre are no longer Igbos?

I remember how you accused me and other sensible Igbos who tried to tell you and IPOB to leave Ikwerres and their ilks in Ogba, Ekpeye and other Igboid parts of Rivers state alone, of being impostors.

You IPOBS will never listen to counsel. You are impervious to advice.
Politics › Re: Restructuring: Northern Leaders Root For 12-State Structure by Igboid:
I don't understand why a SEner should be the one championing the cause of Igboids.
On the surface you will think you are doing Ndiigbo a favour, but on deep examination, you will find out that all this your attache by force does is to present Ndiigbo as a needy people who can't survive without the Igboids , like our viability as a region depends on having these Igboids come with us. This in turn creates a sense of suspicion among the Igboids who now see us as parasites looking to leech on them and our desire to be in same region with them as a ploy to dominate and them. Consequently, you create a false sense of importance in these Igboid groups to the detriment of Ndiigbo.

You demean Ndiigbo with these senseless talks.
Let the Igboids be. SE is very much viable without them . As much as it would be cool to have all Igboids join us, our sustenance and success as a region is not tied to their joining or not joining us. We are self sufficient.

You can't be demanding for a referendum for a people you are not part of. That smacks of insensitivity, arrogance and sheer ignorance. I don't know if IPOB and her supporters analyse these things before coming to public with them.
Referendum is what a people call for themselves not what an external body presents to them.

If the Igboids want referendum, let them be the ones to champion it. It should be none of your business.
Common sense is not common these days in Igbo land. Chai! Alu Melu.
Culture › Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by Igboid: 7:44pm On Oct 12, 2020
AreaFada2:
You nor even know how to properly talk lie. Learn under Lai Mohammed before you practice in public. cheesy grin
Benin was like Roman empire. It was never an ethnicity. It was a nationality.
Bini was just one of the many ethnic groups in Benin and on whose land the capital city was built.
For example, Apostle Paul was a Roman citizen, but he was Jewish by ethnicity.

The distinction line between Benin as a nationality made up Bini, Ijaw, Igbo, Yoruba components, and Bini as just a small ethnic group on his land Benin was built on, has been blurred by you Bini revisionists in your land grab and have subsequently made migration stories of Igbo, Yoruba , Ijaw, etc speaking groups in Igbo land (Enuani), Yorubaland(Owo, Oba Lagos), Ijaw(Nembe) appear irrational when it is actually rational once one separate Benin from Bini and establish the existence of Igboid, Ijawoid and Yoruboid people as integral components of Benin empire.

And that it is from these components that reverse migration back to their aboriginal lands happened on a latter date when Benin was no longer safe for them.
Culture › Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by Igboid: 7:28pm On Oct 12, 2020
AreaFada2:
So you still do not realise the political nature of Oduduwa and Oranmiyan story? grin cheesy

Evian and his later Ogiamen people were administrators in the inter-regnum. They were never recognised as kings. By that time, Benin had a dynasty of over 1100 years which was impossible to usurp. Only the Uzama (4 and later 5 original Igodomigodo elders) could crown a king and they didn't accept Evian descendants as kings, since Evian was never king.

Empires are by nature multi-ethnic, otherwise it won't be an empire. By 1897, Benin lost the empire, having already lost Lagos in early 1860s.

Benin has 7 local governments today. But how many kings in Nigeria rule over a bigger Kingdom in Nigeria without any other Obas, Igwes, Obis or Emirs within it? kano might have come close but it has been split now. Every area in Lagos has an Oba. Ibadan has more kings now than people. grin cheesy grin

Only dukes and chiefs exist in Benin Kingdom. Only one Oba.
Bini is small nah.
Just one senatorial zone, and a population of at most 3Million.

Its a well known fact that Oba Benin is a Yoruba usurper in Bini land.
In this sense, Oba Lagos though a Benin is actually a Yoruba by ethnicity.
Benin was not same as Bini.
Benin was a nationality while Bini was the ethinic group on whose land the empire capital was built on.
The Ogiemien are descendants of original Bini tribes who were ruling over themselves before Benin was established.
Culture › Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by Igboid: 7:02pm On Oct 12, 2020
samuk:
Igboid and Yoruboid are all new terminology linguistically speaking. The people grouped together under a political umbrella called Yoruba are actually of different tribes and languages. Yoruba is a recent name for group of different tribes that speak the Oyo dialect.

Similarly America people of today are people of different European tribes, English, French, German, Greek etc that speak the English language.

The Igbo experiment was also supposed to bring together different tribes and make them speak a common central Igbo language but the civil war dealt a very serious blow to the Igbo project. If the Igbos have worn the war or if the war was avoided, perhaps the Igbo project would have extended behold the present landlocked south east which is about the same size of Edo and Delta.

The people themselves are those that should determine if they want to be Igboid or not. Very few in the south south region see themselves as Igboid. The Americans (new people formed from different tribes) see themselves as Americans because they are comfortable with it, it wasn't foisted on them.

As for now, those that are comfortable to be regarded as Yoruba are found in the south west of Nigeria and the Igbos are confined to the South east, the south south should be left out of the Igbo Biafra project. The people of south south are not comfortable with the Igbo project.
There is no people called South South.

The Igbo people in South South ,the Enuani(Asaba) , Egbema and the ASA and Ndoki in Oyigbo, are all proud of their Igbo ethnicity and have never for once told you or anyone that they are not interested in the Igbo project.

The Benin empire is a failed project built on forceful subjugation and conquest. It was destroyed within 24 hours by the British.
It is dead and will never rise again because the non Bini tribes in the empire would naturally gravitate to their original kinship.

Bini tribe should focus more on trying to wrestle your lost kingdom from the Yoruba Oba sitting there and less on Igboids of SS .

Help the Ogiemien to win back your throne from the Ife king ruling you.
South South or whatsoever is an artificial nomenclature not even recognized by the Nigerian constitution.
If you think you can ride on it and rebuild you lost empire of blood and gore, you had better think again.

Meanwhile, enjoy Ndudi Elumelu, the brother to UBA boss,representing Oshimili North and South Constituency in Delta state, taking pride in his Igbo identity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnBI39ODTJY

Move on nwa Bini.
Culture › Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by Igboid: 6:46pm On Oct 12, 2020
samuk:
You present day Igbos are very funny, so Ekpeye are now also returnee Igbos from Benin like you spin the Onitsha people's history.

You forget that the Igbos as we know them today, didn't exist in the 1400s to 1500s when these people were said to have migrated from Benin.

The word Igbo didn't even exit in the late 1700s, otherwise Oluadah Equiano would of mentioned it in his book.
Igbos didn't exist as a political grouping. But it existed as a language group.
The ancestors of Igboid people in Benin were Igbo speaking even when in Benin. That's why they were all bearing Igbo names like Ezechima, Akalaka, even while in Benin.

Even today, there is no language called Igbo language in Igbo land.
An Owerre man speaks Owerre language, an Idemili man speaks Idemil language, an Ndoki man speaks Ndoki language.
But we all know we understand each other and hence the concept of Igbo being a root for all our individual languages.
In this sense, an Owerre man speaking Owerre language is speaking Igbo, likewise an Ezza man speaking Ezza language.
Igbo is a summation of all dialects within our dialetical cluster that are mutually intelligible to each other as we move along geo-cultural zone of Igbo people.
This is why despite being neighbours to Bini for centuries, an Igbanke man will never understand a Bini man, but will understand an Igbo man in far away IMO state at first hearing.
This is how you know that Igbo as a political grouping though a modern creation, is built on ancient relationship and connection between groups classified as such.
Culture › Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by Igboid:
AreaFada2:
And who told you every land does not have migrants? Can you imagine the number of Igbo that moved to Abuja and Lagos since the last 25 years? Nationwide really. So much that they have an Ezeigbo in every village in Nigeria now.

Other tribes, including Benin, have a long history of migration.

I posted a video of Igede people in Benue seeking their roots. Your pants will soon be tearing for that one too. Because I have often heard Igbo people saying that Benue people are all Igbo. grin cheesy
Are the indigenes of Abuja speaking Igbo?

Ekpeye has no history of Migrants from Igbo land in their territory.
They claim they speak Igboid language because of interactions with Igbos. Funny enough, Igbos (SE) share no direct boundary with Ekpeye,so the interactions angle is stupid as even Igbo neighbours in Akwaibom and Cross River, including Ogonis, are not Igboid speaking.

Benin was the Abuja of ancient Southern Nigeria. A multicultural area where Edoid(Bini,Esan,Urhobo, Isoko,etc), Yoruboid(Usen, etc), Igboid (Igbanke, Ika) and Ijaws( the Olodiama kingdom) cohabited under an Ife ruler ship, the Oba of Benin, who usurped the Edoid kings, the Ogiemiens.

When Benin had upheavals, some non Edoid people from there went back to their homeland.
That's the story of Benin. That's why you have obvious Ijaw speaking people like Nembe claiming Origin from Benin. The Benin they are referring to is the multiethnic Benin empire and not the mushroom Bini minority tribe.

You have Yoruba, Ijaw, Igbo, groups with history of migration from Benin. They were Benin citizens but not Bini (Edo) people.
Culture › Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by Igboid: 3:14pm On Oct 12, 2020
AreaFada2:
Do not mistake language with language in all cases. When American early leaders held a vote to choose official language for USA, English won by a single vote over German.

I guess you are unaware of it. Imagine if German language narrowly won. We would today see Americans as predominantly German. Cultural affinity with Germany might have kept USA out of WW2 and the world might be a different place today.
What are you talking about? Why are you Bini people this dubious.
USA is a land of migrants that was once under British colonialism.
How can you compare it to aboriginal community in Nigeria like Ekpeye?

SMH!

What is wrong with you guys?
Culture › Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by Igboid: 1:08pm On Oct 12, 2020
AreaFada2:
Very interesting.

OP forget to mention that Degema & Ekpeye are Edoid people.

Although Ekpeye language is more Igboid while Degema is clearly Edoid.
There is nothing Edoid, not even one, about Ekpeye.
Other than the irrational Bini migration stories, Ekpeye is Igboid.

Perhaps you meant to say the Engenni, who occupy Ahoada West LGA with Ekpeye people.
Because we all know the Engenni( Burna boy is from this ethnic group) are Edoid language speakers and have history of migration from Bini.

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