₦airaland Forum

ianSweet:
Ette is an Igala town with Idoma and Igbo migrants. The kingship titles and traditional rulers are in Igala.

Igga and i think Ogurugu towns in Enugu are of Igala origin, they are both billingual in igala and igbo, but because they are in Enugu, they seem to identify as Igbo, am not really sure.

Ette is not an Igala town. It was never an Igala town and won't be in the future. The Igalas and Idomas invades Ette in the old, by the Idomas retain the majority their now, and they still have few Igbos there.

The Idomas there being the majority are eager to assimilate into the Igbo culture. Even if a referendum is held today to determine where Ette will be, the Idomas will team up with few Igbos there and ensure Ette remains part of Igboland.

OmoIgala:
Sorry, I don't mean to sound rude, but Igbos have no right to Ette community, since it isn't Igboland.
In the latest ethnographic survey of Ette Area, only 5.7% of interviewed residents said they spoke Igbo regularly or took ethic pride in being igbo.
Ette isn't an equally tri linguistic area like u are trying to pant it, Igbos are a minority there.
Ettte is better off in Kogi state. There are already areas in Kogi with the same Igala-Idoma mix, and nobody is complaining.

But in the present Ette in Enugu state structure, katakata everywhere, because it isn't natural.

Igalas in Ette are migrants/invaders just like the Idomas, and they know this.

Ette remains Igboland as there remains indigenous Igbos in Ette even as we speak.

That's the situation of things.

oglalasioux:
In Ishielu LGA alone, you have Ezillo speaking a totally different dialect, Iyonu speaking another dialect. Nkalagu and Umuhali speak another version of the Nkanu dialect while Nkalaha and Obegu speak the Nsukka dialect. That's 4.

Then you have Izzi, Ezza, Ikwo and Ngbo/Izhia making 8 dialects. When you add Afikpo, Ivo and Ohaozara you have total of 11 dialects.

Note that I didn't add the non Igbo speaking parts of the State such as Effium, Ofurekpe, Ntezi, Okpoto and Amuda.

Enugu State has 5 dialects namely Nkanu, Awgu, Udi and Nsukka. Anambra has 3 dialects, Umunze, Onitsha and Aguleri (except the northern Igala speaking communities). Abia has 3, Isukwato, Ngwa and Arochukwu. Imo has 3, Mbaise, Owerri and Okigwe.

So no Igbo state has more dialects than Ebonyi state.

On your stance that Ngbo people are not related to the Idomas you may be right. I base my argument on the sound of their words and similarities in their names such as Agbo and Agala among others.

You are dead wrong.

If we take it the way you did, then every Igbo town speaks it's own dialect. For example in Abia.

Umunneochi has three dialects distinct from each other: ie Nneato, Isuochi and Umuchieze dialects that is subdivided into Lekwesi, Lokpa ukwu, Lokpa nta, leru.

Isiukwuto has two dialects: Isiukwuato dialect and Uturu dialect.

Ohafia has two dialects: Ohafia proper and Abiriiba dialects.

Arochukwu has three dialects: Aro, Ihechiowa and Abam dialects

Bende is as diverse as they come, we have Umunneato dialects, Okporoenyi has a hybrid dialect mixed with Aro as they are of Aro origin. We have Ugwueke, Loghum, Ahaba imenyi, etc.

Come to Umuahia, we have Ohuhu, Ibeku, and Old umuahia dialects.

Ikwuano has its own myriads of dialects

Ngwa is a dialect with many sub dialects

Asa and Ndoki dialects in. Ukwa area with their own myriads of sub dialects.

If you add them up. You should have like 20 dialects or more.

Ebonyi is not peculiar. What you see in Ebonyi is the norm.

Anambra has more than three dialects. I don't know how you arrived at Anambra having just three dialects.

Orumba South has myriads of dialects, Ayamaelum LGA is like a world of it's own.

Orumba North, Aguata are also unique areas with different dialects. Ever listened to an Ekwulobia man speak before? Places in Aguata close to Imo border speak dialects that resemble those spoken in Northern Imo state.

How about Ihiala area, just look at the name, Ihiala, it already sounds Imo, as land in Anambra central areas is called Ana/ani and not Ala.


Nnewi south speak their own unique dialects that is laced with many Imo like words.

And not even one Ali Chukwuma song made your list?
You are a joker.

oglalasioux:
Very educative post. Thanks, OP.

I'm particularly interested in the diversity of dialects in all languages. In Ebonyi State, for instance, there are more Igbo dialects than in all the Igbo speaking states.

I have come to the conclusion (speculative) that dialects suggest that other tribes joined the original tribes back in time and developed the dialects based on their original mother tongues.

The Ngbo people of Ebonyi State, in my opinion, are originally Idomas. Their dialect of the Igbo language is a pure intonation of the Idoma language. This is also true of the Nsukka people of Enugu state who speak Igbo with Igala intonation.

Most people don't know that the English language and German are 90% identical. Languages and dialects are pointers that the world is shaped by evolution.

You are wrong. Ngbo people has no history of migrating from Idoma or being Idomas.

As for Nsukka area, their lands were invaded by Igalas, who affected their dialects a bit, but the Igalas amongst them had been assimilated into the dominant Igbo culture of the area.

And Ebonyi doesn't have more dialects than other Igbo states. Ebonyi rather seem to have lesser dialects, as groups there seem to be larger in size and landmass.

What I find interesting in the course of studies in the southern Nigeria area is the reluctance to acknowledge any outward Igbo movements to other areas as founders or cohabitants of new towns, however in Igboland many a community wants to claim their founder came from outside the current Igbo linguistic zone.

Exactly.

Odogwu akataka, otu onye ana asi unu abiago! Nwoke ike, Dike! Agu olu, onye ana ekwu maka ya nwelu ife ona eme.
Udene Kaluaka na amapu ozu afo. Egwu adi atu afo, obulu uzo, anu ana agba egbe ona ata nni, anu nganga mpi. Omelu kwelu ike, Okirikiri ka ana agba ukwu ose, Gburugburu Igbo nine.

May your soul rest in peace.

bigfrancis21:
From my understanding, they bear Igbo native names, speak Igbo as native language, and also Igala as an addition. Just as we speak Pidgin in addition to English and our native languages.

Or would it make sense for them to bear Igbo names and speak Igala as first language? Remember that our african names have meanings and are given from the language one speaks as first language. Meaning that the people's first language is probably Igbo and Ibaji Igala is a second language.

Fair point. It will be safe to say that they had assimilated well as Igbos today, while still managing to hold unto bits of their Igala link.

bigfrancis21:
What language does Iggah speak as native language?

Igala. They are also bilingual in Igbo language.
https://www.nairaland.com/1256296/why-tussle-over-anambra-oil
You can hear from their Igwe above.

omonnakoda:
One Nigerian pound was equal at inception to 2 British pounds .


£1 sterling from 1970 would be worth about £14 today http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/bills/article-1633409/Historic-inflation-calculator-value-money-changed-1900.html


And we gave every Ibo man £20(Nigerian) = £40 sterling i.e £560 in today's money. Nigeria was truly magnanimous in victory

You are an ignorant fellow.

slivertongue:
border communities.
there is also an igala speaking community in enugu called ettah

Ette is not Igalla. It's a mix of Idoma- Igbo - Igalla in that order.

There are some communities like Igga in Enugu that trace their ancestry to Igalla though.

nijanigga:
non mind them, igbo people are very prone to stealing,armed robbery and drug pushing, I don't know why but it's a fact.

Guess his ethnic group?

ahamonyeka:
has deltans agreed to be igbos?

Is there any ethnic group known as "Deltans" in Nigeria.

I am not aware of any.

I only know that Enu- ani, which Ogwashiuku is part of Are proud Igbos and had produced an Illustrious Igbo son by the name Ralph Uwaechue, who led the apex Igbo organization, Ohanaeze Ndiigbo for years.

ofwest47:
Orji Kalu has spoken, it is true the IBOs are their own worst enemy because of their selfishness in politics and were always want to dominate others both in politics and businesses
going back to history, was it not Dr. Azikwe who wanted to impose himself on the governess of the old western region when he insisted on taking over the premiership of the old western region while Mike Okpara retains the premiership in the East.
Was it not Okpara that insisted on coming to fish in the trouble waters of the west in other to destabilise the region during Action Group crises of 1962 when he said " I will go to the west" despite been advised against his action the resultant effect has become history today.
If the 1st coup, IBO one sided coup had not happened which left all the IBO leaders untouched the second coup and subsequent series of coups would have been avoided.
If they had allowed the creation of the Calabar Ogoja Rivers
( COR) region as was the case of the then Midwestern region from the old Western region we would not be clamouring for restructuring today, so all along the IBOs have been the architect of their own misfortunes as a result of their political selfishness.

Such a heap of faeces just in only one person's skull? Nawao! Nsogbu dikwa.

CliffordOrji:
What Is Ebonyi? Is that state still part of Nigeria? As an Igbo man, I must admit that Ebonyi is the most underdeveloped state in Nigeria. The only tarred road in Ebonyi is the road leading to the government house at Abakaliki. There is a village at Abakaliki where people still wear grass and leafs as cloth. We Igbos are still uncivilised

Lol! An Igbo man from Ijebu Igbo.

realglobe:
why did you dodge my question about your state of origin or should I assume that you, like every other afonja on nairaland comes from lagos and owns a duplex in lekki?

Chino and Abagworo, can you both stop embarrassing Ndiigbo for once, just for once, bikonu, ikperem di na ani.

ImoRiver:
Without Rochas Okorocha they would have removed the Ebonyian. When it comes to Igbo unity forget Anambra. Dem no follow. Ordinary Igbos on the streets are more united than the elites.

Who is Rochas?

When Ohanaeze fashioned her rotation formula, Rochas was still in North hustling. No one knew him.

Stop trying to create discord where non exists. Same Anambra supported the enthronement of Uwaechue, an Enu-ani man.

Abia-Anambra-Delta- Ebonyi- Enugu- Imo-Rivers

The above is Ohanaeze rotation formular, it was created before we knew Rochas. After Delta( Uwaechue) it became Ebonyi turn( Igariwey) , you can remove Igariwey, but you can only replace him with another Ebonyi man, until Ebonyi turn is exhausted.
After Ebonyi, the next in line is Enugu, Imo and then Rivers.

Igbo society is built on the spirit of Egbe belu ugo belu, this is why Igbo nation will work.

timeboss:
Why are you flogging a dead horse with your long & dull epistle of regrets. You do not talk when you have your mouth full. That's the problem of Ndigbo.

Igbos are their own worst enemies--OUK
kiss the truth!

I guess I have to get used to OUK being the latest addition to Yoruba gods, whose words are sacrosanct, irrespective of how unproven, irrational and irreconcilable with facts on ground, they might appear.

Bustermachine:
Pazienze, Ibo politicians are angels. This jobless troll is a comedian. Lol

I guess I have to get used to you being my shadow.

AkinPhysicist:
The South East governors who looted their respective states are Yorubas and Northerners too

They never looted as much as Yoruba ones. Seeing as SE gets the smallest allocation from the FG amongst the regions.
Furthermore, non of them looted Nigeria like Yoruba and Northern presidents did since 1970.

mekuzi09:
Going through the thread and liking every bit of it. Buy why not join this group.

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Your intellectual prowess is needed....

Thanks nwanne. I will join.

nonhuman:
I spit on your father's grave. cos u and your family lineage are cursed

Save your strength. He is not worth your effort. He is a Yoruba man masquerading as Igbo. Go through his profile and see for yourself.

timeboss:
small small e don dey clear for una eye.
Kiss the truth!

What truth? Yorubaland has more looters than Igboland.
Infact, all parts of Nigeria has bigger looters than SE.
But that shouldn't have stopped us from stoning looters in our midst, we shouldn't be working with Nigerian standards.

If OUK was not allowed to stay in power, he wouldn't have looted and wouldn't be needing to paint Ndiigbo bad right now to curry favour from other naturally Igbophobic Nigerians and obtain some degree of pardon.

All this embarrassment OUK is bringing us on this thread could have been avoided if the needful was done.
It does not in anyway mean that OUK is more corrupt than Yoruba leaders, but we are not Yorubas, we are Ndiigbo and by that alone, should have different standard.

Israeljones:
I have read every bit of ur comment from the 1st to this one... But yu still not sounding intelligent...
Can yu be less tribalistic for just one second and re-read all what yu have posted.. Come back and quote...

What exactly is your game?

DEBJOCH1:
TRUTH IS ALWAYS BITTER, NDI IGBO NDI OKACHAMARA. ANAMBRA WILL TRADE FIGHT WITH EBONYI CALLING THEM FAKE IGBOS, IMO FACE ENUGU CALLING THEM NDI WAWA NDI IJELEBEE, ABIA ON THE OTHER SIDE TRADE BLAME AND TACKLE TO OTHER IGBOS, DURING ELECTION ONLY IGBO EXTRACTION WILL BE PRRSENTING 5 DIFF PRESISENTIAL CANDIDATES FROM 5 UBKNOWN PARTIES. IGBO'S SHEY NA ONLY WUNA WAKA COME?. MAZI ORJI UZOR KALU HAS SAID IT ALL.

Stop spewing trash.

There is no nation that doesn't have such petty prejudices.
In England, the southerners consider themselves more polished than the Northerners.
Those are just petty sentiments that doesn't matter when serious issues are at hand, nor do you see them fighting with each other over such sentiments.

Ohanaeze Ndiigbo the apex Igbo organization is currently being piloted by an Ebonyi person, the entire Imo, Anambra, Enugu, Abia, Delta North and Rivers North Igbo realms all accepted to be led by an Ebonyian, so where does that leave your rantings?

Onitsha( Anambra) and Asaba ( Enu ani) Are the hottest bed of IPOB agitation, the people are dying for their leader in protests, a leader who happened to be from Abia state.

Uwazuruike from Imo state once shut down the entire stores in Onitsha mainmarket and all major markets in Anambra when he gave a sit at home order during OBJ regime and all Anambra people complied. Yet you will have us believe that Anambra people look down on Imolites or see themselves superior to imolites.

Please in the future, Keep your beer parlour gists to yourself. Ndiigbo can do without it.

Bustermachine:
Coming from the frustrated troll that blame everyone for his family problems. Lmaooooo. No shame at all.

E pain am. I'm sure that I'm even younger than you.

Take your frustrations elsewhere.

CandyDiamond:
Igbos love their selves more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria, Orji Uzo Kalu is scoring cheap words to gain recognition, Igbos are mostly organized and they go about their daily affairs peacefully, is just that the rest of Nigeria ethnic groups hate them,if more than 250 ethinics group is on the neck of one ethnic group by suppressing, labelling them and calling names on all the social media, the name Igbo have become a dominant most threading in all social media, making sure that nothing good goes to them,how do you want them to do,Igbo still keep their head above this tidal water just like Israel that is surrounded at all sides by its enemies, Igbos are trying, no other ethnic group can survive it if they face what Igbos are facing in Nigeria.

OUK is a pathetic human being.
He is in deep shi.it with EFCC and is desperately trying to curry the favour of other Nigerians. The easiest way into the heart of a Nigerian is football or Igbophobia. OUK is appealing to their Igbophobic nature. How pathetic can he be?

He expected Ohakim to have stayed under PPA, while he OUK and his greedy self continuously taxed Ohakim, dictated things for him and milk Imo dry. He is angry that Ohakim didn't bend and allow him milk Imo dry like the rest of Yoruba persons are bending to let Tinubu milk them dry. T.A didn't allow him to continue ruling Abia in proxy like docile Fashola and Ambode allowed Tinubu. His greedy self is angry that Ndiigbo are not docile enough to allow his greedy ass permeate himself as a Godfather of the entire East.

He is not ashamed of himself. He was at a threshold where he could unite the entire East under PPA through quality leadership,and give Ndiigbo a rallying center for once, but his greedy ass that was hell bent on corruption and looting, destroyed it all.

OUK is a sore loser, common T.A a fellow looter booted him out of Abia state politics. I hope EFCC deals with him.

Nuahall2k14:
Jobless youth on nairaland calling sm1 unwise... SMH.

Bia enyia, stay in your lane. Stop making hasty generalization. If you are Igbo and greedy, good for you. Majority of Igbos are hardworking and work hard for their earning, including me.

Bustermachine:
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Face OUK and leave Yoruba alone. Why cant you learn to have shame, you blame them for every calamity rocking your life. Are they also responsible for your still living with your parents at the age of 49. Grow up Pazienza and stop disgracing yourself.

I'm not the reason for your frustrated life. Face front.

VivianUdeogu:
Nwannem Let us stop deceiving ourselves. Let us tell ourselves the truth: we Igbos have a fundemental problem. Even beyond politics, we also have deep rooted social and ancestral problems too. We hate ourselves passionately, we discriminate: we still practise the Osu caste system. hate, bitterness, tribialism and clannishness thrive very much in Alaigbo. It is just as if we Igbos are cursed

Shameless Afonja masquerading under Igbo moniker

When a Yoruba man does for his people as Mmadukaji did for his people in Umuchukwu, Obijackson for Okija people, Ogah for Uturu people, the various Igbo clan development unions for their people, then come and talk to me.https://www.nairaland.com/1875802/most-progressive-rural-communities-igboland
https://www.nairaland.com/2947634/politics-village-town-development-anambra
https://www.nairaland.com/2918096/village-town-development-anambra-state
https://www.nairaland.com/2928369/politics-village-town-development-anambra
https://www.nairaland.com/3203525/godwin-ezeemo-anambra-billionaire-hurry
https://www.nairaland.com/3389218/okija-village-politics-obijackson-vows/1
https://www.nairaland.com/3215044/see-what-coming-up-rural

How many of you Yorubas talk about your villages, you all run to the cities for fear of being "jazzed" or killed by jealous bitter villagers.

I'm sure you are from Ijebu-Igbo. Below is how your people treat their villages.
https://www.nairaland.com/2808925/look-into-hometown-mike-adenuga


Maybe in your particular Ijebu Igbo community people hate themselves. But in mine and numerous other Igbo communities, we all built up our human resources and infrastructures by ourselves using community contribution programs, as our regions had been abandoned by the FG Post civil war. So next time, just limit this your particular rant to your village( Ijebu Igbo) and ask other real Igbo towns for help on how they go about community development.

Nuahall2k14:
I am igbo. But I know Igbos are greedy and Neva look at d bigger pix.. U can tell an igbo man to pick between collecting 120mil and sharing it 80mil for himself and 40mil for his brother Or he should collect 20mil just got himself... The igbo man Will pick d 20mil for himself..... But a Yoruba man Will pick the 120mil...this is why Yoruba land kips developing and churning out Great people cos they are growing collectively..

You are not a wise person.

Who are the great people Yorubas produced? Looters like OBJ that stole the country into it's comatose state? Who exactly?
You are also ignorant. I never knew that all the past looters that looted this country blind, are all Igbos and no longer Yorubas and Northerners.