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philfearon:
I just dey laugh you. Wait till a fabulous player comes up again in EPL and watch where they are headed(I don't mean a one season wonder kind of player).

Football is contact sports. One nasty injury and your career is over, ask Marco Van Basten how far.

Players knows these. Madrid went through a trophy drought between 2003- 2011, winnin few la liga trophies, yet was attracting the best footballers in the world.

You would be stupid to think it's because of the Trophies they won mainly in 50s and 60s.
It was because of the money they had to spend on those players. First they use big money to lure clubs into selling and second, they lure the players with ridiculous pay rise. Those players weren't rushing to Madrid because of past glories they had as of then, it was the financial reward.

This would explain why the second most successful and glamorous European club in history, AC Milan, is currently not attracting top stars. Agueros and Pogbas of this world chose EPL over AC Milan that would gladly welcome them now.

You know why? AC Milan is broke, even Zlatan and Thiago Silva left them for PSG. Nig.gas ain't loyal, it's all about the Benjamins.
The talk of players tripping for Madrid and Barca because of prestige is BS. It was money all those while. History puts no food on anyone's table.

saintdennis:
Silly questions I expect from secondary students.

Feel free to go online & do ur research (tip: start from enahoro 1953 independence motion)

I only engage mature people in discussions of this nature.

You are the silly one here.

You said they Zik "forced" the North into the Nigeria union. The onus is on you to provide details on the type of force Zik wielded on them to coerce them forcefully against their wishes into the union.

Your failure to do so, but instead resorting to ad hominem, underlie your intellectual laziness.

Spare me the trash talk next time. Thanks.

philfearon:
Hahahahahah. Guy you are funny ah swear!
I just glanced to see any top player in Epl, and Ozil just came to my mind. Just tell Ozil that Iniesta is retiring and that the position is his.... ... .. .. Uhmmmmm. At a press Conference :
Ozil (in German) : "I love Arsenal and the fans, but it's really hard to resist the temptation of playing with the best team in the world with the best player in the world.!"

Lol! I'd like to see how you are going to attract Ozil to a monotonous league. Whatever money you can afford him, Arsenal can and will, and will sure tie him down and frustrate your advances.

Those money you use to throw around those days to lure players away from their cash starved EPL clubs won't do the trick anymore now.

Take a look around you. All the best coaches in the modern game are all currently in EPL, it's the cash trail they are all following, the players will do same, and together, they will all deliver.

yak:
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don't forget that Barca has the best academy in d world. in the past 7yrs, how many players av they bought? EPL believe in quick action. it's only Man U and Arsenal that seem to av culture, philosophy and direction. all other big EPL teams including my darling Chelsea play anything goes

And what players have this Barca academy produced? Cuenca, Bojan, Jonathan and Giovanni dos santos, Tello?

Oh spare me the Barca academy trash.

La liga is going down soon or later. The financial edge Barca and Madrid had over the years had been obliterated by EPL New TV deal, and it can only get better for EPL from henceforth, as the financial gap between it and La liga finest widens.

The future belongs to EPL, money rules the modern football, it had served Madrid and Barca well over the years, as they used it to attract top talents all over the world to their clubs. EPL teams are set to the same now.

sebod:
If there's anyone deceiving himself here, it's surely you!
Can you bodily tell us that if CR7 had wanted more money to stay at United, they didn't have enough to offer him? Don't forget he's the 1st and only player to have won the world best player award in EPL, can you prove that he still left United because of money?
No matter how rich Leicester City become today, should Barca/Madrid knock at Mahrez' door, he would force the transfer and the next thing you'll hear from him is "its always been my dream to play for Barca/Madrid.

There's no amount of money any club can have today especially in EPL that would stop any player from picking up Barca/Madrid's call sir, these clubs have been poaching the best players even from the very rich clubs in EPL, so your line of argument does not just add up unless you want to tell us that the deal would afford Watford the ability to price away the big boys from Barca/Madrid.

Really? How exactly did your De gea Chase go? United are not even in champions league anymore, yet Madrid couldn't have de gea, try all they could.

If United was determined to tie Ronaldo down, they could have, with bumper deal and massive investments in the squad to please him.

United was naive thinking they could easily replace or compensate for Ronaldo's loss, at that point in time, 80 million pounds looked like a big money.
They have learnt the hard way.
Barca/Madrid are not going to price away any top talent from EPL any time soon. Go and Mark that down.

dmcdad:
@emboldened, you can say this now because we have one super human and a god playing now. It's not everytime we have such. But then, I can bet my left balls you said same when Ronaldinho was doing his magic. Messi came on and made us forget Dinho in all his glory. We have Neymar coming up good. Not saying he would outdo Messi, but at least you know what he can do. He does so every now and then witj Brazil. Take Messi away and I tell you that the world will soon bow at Neymar's feet.

I rest my case.

Neymar is good, but not extraordinary. No one is going to bow at Neymar's feet. Not happening. Ronaldinho was good, but Barcelona was not an all conquering team with him in it. Between 2003- 08 he was there, Barca featured in the champions league finals just once and won the champions league just once. EPL teams won it twice and featured in the finals 4 consecutive times.

There are not going to be another Messi and Ronaldo for every long time after they are gone.

sebod:
It's every players dream to wear Barca/Madrid shirts, that's why it's easy to price them away from their clubs. Forget about any TV deal. Those two clubs are bigger than every other club out there and get whatever they want. Ronaldo left Man U for Madrid(as the world best player) not because United couldn't afford to pay whatever he asked for, but because he knew what it means to turn up for Madrid. Same applies to any player Barca set eyes on.

Keep deceiving yourself. Players follow the cashflow. The cash is now in EPL, the top players will follow, and the emerging top talents in EPL can nolonger be poached. Only those deemed surplus to requirements will be leaving EPL now. You won't be getting any more Ronaldos, Bales, Modrics, Mascheranos, Alonsos from
EPL, but your Agueros, Silvas, Nolitos, Sanchez, Ozils, and others you deemed surplus to requirements that are top talents will end up in EPL. The financial war has been won by EPL, it's only a matter of time before it starts manifesting on the pitch.

shigothang:
https://m.facebook.com/Ijawmog/posts/276577485790380



http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/in-the-next-30-years-our-language-will-suffer-if-nothing-is-done-comrade-evah/

Read that .

Opinions are like scrotal sacs, every man has his. The Ogogoro man and his people are entitled to their own opinions, but that does not make them facts.

Fact is that prior to the civil war, the East was ahead of Western region in Education, Entrepreneurship, standard of living and every thing else good.

PentiumProf:
These guys don't tire me
They are full of falsehood
Not long ago i watched a documentary on the jan 1966 coup
The documentary was aired on tvc which is owned by drug dealer tinubu
I stopped watching the programme because of how they twisted the story to favour them
One of the problems facing ndi igbo is that we do not control the print and electronic media
Because of that the afonja people have the advantage of twisting history to favour them
Our wealthy sons need to invest in the media
The media is a powerful means of disseminating information

Yes, the media is a strong weapon. Not understanding the importance of media in twisting the perception of masses by our pre civil war fore runners made us pay the ultimate price.

Never again would Yoruba lies be left unchallenged. Every bit of their falsehood must be debunked and exposed as blatant propaganda. It will not survive the scrutiny of the 21st century ICT age.

shigothang:
That's the truth .The west were denied some chances due their their level of exposure before th indepndence .

The british planned a designed a country tO favor and rule by the north ,while the east supports them.

The first VC of Ibadan coming from the east is the plan to give the east a stake ( the cath up pan to meet up with the west).

There wre plans to make other regions to catch up woith western nigeria ,and that's why federal character was introduced ,so otheer tribs an meet and we ve a balanced country .

You can read the confession of Harold smith on lies about population!how the west were denied numbers.

Even the pominent Ijaw activist Joseph Evah, was said ther wre plans in nigeria to make other troibes cath up the with west ,which is paying off.

I think the advantage the Ibos ve more than other tribes,its bcuz they have a large population compare to opther tribes,so its visible to notice they are catching up and are ready to dominate but I don't think th west are dozing .

You forgot that Ajayi Crowder played a vital role in the lives of all ibo man, and most of their elites schooled here and leanrt alot from us ,they even dress like us,evolving through our cultural practices and developing a western orientation.

Wheen u talk of industrialist,the west lead and others follow(the okin biscuit,alabukun's and others) in this area and still churning out more ,though the ibo are really trying in the area .
There was a programme on tv years back ,on NTA ,hosted by a lady from eastern part or the S south (Hallmark of Labour) . Its a show to celebrate those who contributed to nigeria's development from different sectors. Its was a very good and well commended ,the programme attest to the fat on how thw west dominated and plaeyd a vital role in all sectors of Nigeria's existence but from the public and private setors of the entity .


That's fact is the west leads ,while others follows but amongst the followers,one is angry ,focus and playing a smart game to lead. To me ,I see this a normal thing.Its a welcome motive to me,it will wake us up ,if we can only havea resource control and self rule.

Imagine a east with a mordern rgional capital that ink the west and south to the north via a 21st century railway .


God bless us all.

Same old delusional rantings with no statistical documented back ups.
Just mere falsehoods passed from one Afonja generation to the next.

AjiereTuwo:
What wer ur parents ambitions when they named u Nwaosu osuji

If your parents brain cells were not destroyed by Ogogoro and hydrocarbon/ faeces contaminated water( Gowon gift to them), they wouldn't have given birth to a brain damaged offspring like you. The shame is on your ogogoro drinking parents, they fried your brain cells in utero , and Gowon completed the job by making sure you were nurtured with faeces and hydrocarbon contaminated water from birth to adulthood. And the end result is obvious today. Ndo, I really pity you.

AjiereTuwo:
This osu doesn't know ogbia is an Ijaw clan, anyways i understand why u would hide under the Igbo tribe, which osu village are you from again, or has erosion wiped the forsaken land of the map

In what planet is Ogbia a distinct group with a language belonging to Edoid group of languages with its own distinct dialects a clan of Ogogoro people.


I can see that the faeces in the water you drink has started messing with your brain cells.

Your Ogogoro poverty stricken, faeces and hydrocarbon water drinking bitter soul can't mention just two Ogogoro men of international repute, you had to go on land grabbing, claiming a distinct Ogbiya.

How shameless can you be? Is this how your conditions in Bomadi has deteriorated?

saintdennis:
U forget to mention his first major error... FORCING THE NORTH TO BE PART OF AN INDEPENDENT NIGERIA.

The north NEVER wanted anything to do with the south, azikiwe toasted, coerced and ultimately sent UK messages to compel the north to be part of the marriage.

Today ironically igbos want to divorce but the north like a lazy housewife with no prospects for financial buoyancy after divorce vehemently refuses lols.

ok obafemi awolowo wanted to include right to secede in our constitution AZIKIWE wrote Britain to accuse awolowo of treason.

Those 2 grave errors are still affecting us southerners till this day.

B4 u mention azikiwe how bout ojukwu who was rewarded with chieftaincy title for his cowardice.

--in btw i'm pro-nigeria.

How exactly did Zik force the North into Nigeria project? With what Army was he able to effect this coercion? When did this forcefull annexation of the North into Nigeria take place? What's the name of the war? Who were the leaders of the Armies involved?

I await your answers.

dmcdad:
You raised a number of issues I need to correct.

In response to your first paragraph, you mind telling me how it's possible all the top guns had to go through a rough patch at the same freaking time? I mean, how possible is that? You didn't imagine that they probably were overrated and all hyped? At least you attested to the fact that Barça were able to stand for La Liga (a supposedly 2-horse-race-league). And the EPL that boasts of maybe having 5 teams as contenders all went through bad patches coincidentally at the same time? Nah nah nah bruv. They ain't got quality.

As regards your second paragraph, that is a normal thing in football. The thing is, most of these guys left cause they wanted to win trophies; not just league trophies but Champions League and maybe the club world cup just to mention a few. They know coming over to this side of the coin would benefit them more, hence the need to move. Or tell me why Van Persie left Arsenal for United. Tell me why Fab left Arsenal for Barça. Tell me why Suárez would wanna leave a place he was worshipped to where he would play 2nd or 3rd fiddle. And these players' faith were rewarded time and again. Henry played just how many seasons with Barça, but he won the most desired trophy that had eluded his grasp. Bale? He has 2 Champions League trophies to his name. Same with Modric. Same with Ronaldo (in Madrid). Alonso too won the Champions League with Madrid. Mascherano? Need I say how many trophies he has won with Barça? Suárez nkor? He won a treble in his debut season. So you see? These guys wouldn't have achieved all they did if they were with their so-called parent clubs.

In response to your third paragraph, the EPL has always been boosted by money. Enough money to go round even without the new deal. So no be today nyash dey for back. We will still attract your bests cause they love to win trophies, and where else can they be than to be in Barça or Madrid?

Messi and Ronaldo won't be around forever quite alright. Yet, that doesn't mean we ain't still got the best among the rest. Remember, we have Neymar (who is just behind Messi and Ronaldo), Suárez, Bale... I mean, we still got the best of the lot, so keep wishing.

United lost Ronaldo, their "go to" man and simply failed in their bid to replace him.

When Madrid bought Ronaldo and Alonsothey were perpetual underperformers living in past glories in Europe, Liverpool and Man United were recent winners and constantly featured in finals and Semi finals of Champions league of those era.
Say all you want, but money bought Madrid it's status in Europe today, Madrid would not be able to price away a Ronaldo from United today, United will offer him any ridiculous amount of money available to keep him.

It was money that drew the likes of Suarez, Henry, Bale, Modric, etc to Barca and Madrid. With money they have now, EPL teams will tie those talents down with ridiculous wage allowances and keep Barca and Madrid in the Lurch. Gone are the days when you say jump, and EPL teams ask how high.

Between 2003-2014, Madrid kept throwing ridiculous amount of money to their problems until it clicked. EPL teams are set to do the same.

Suarez, Neymar and Bale are good, but they are not Ronaldo or Messi and will never give you the advantage Messi and Ronado did.
Suarez is an old man too, won't be around for long.

Udmaster:
when Azikiwe was President, no ijaw man have gotten a B.sc at that time.
And btw, I am talking abt u naming 3 ijaw men who are international tecnorats.

GEJ grew up looking up to Azikiwe as a role model, his ambitious parents gave him the nickname Azikiwe, they were capable of dreaming big. The very thing Ogogoro people can't do is dream big, little wonder they have hardly amounted to anything their entire existence.

Ogbaiya is definitely of different stock, they are Edoid and not Ogogoroid, I even have colonial documents to back this up. GEJ simply rode on the Ogogoro people to achieve his targets.
No ogogoro Man can understand a single word in Ogbaiya.

AjiereTuwo:
i know he is an Igbo man, at least that way Igbos can have a president

He is not an Ogogoro man. Ogogoro people know this.
Ogogoro language and Ogbaiya language don't even belong to same language classification.

Ogbaiya is a full fledged Edoid language with its own Dialects.

If I start naming Igbos of international repute, NL will not contain them.

But you are yet to name just two Ogogoro men of international repute, you had to shamelessly attach to an Ogbia man.

Ogogoro drinker, can you see what hydrocarbon polluted waters, Gowon gift to you have done to your brain cells? You can't produce stars, you will need full functioning brain cells to produce stars, but given your hydrocarbon polluted source of water, a full functioning brain cells is a luxury you can't afford.

I'm still waiting for you to name just two Ogogoro drinkers of international repute.

dmcdad:
That's the problem of you EPL fans... Little wonder your league is dying, not to mention subpar in recent years. All the hype won't save your league. La Liga is where football is, accept it or not. Barcelona and Real Madrid will better and top any league any day of the week. It's about the sheer quality of these sides and not about hype.

What quality? EPL top guns have had to undergo through a rough patch. United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal, these were teams that consistently featured in the quarterfinals and Semi finals of Champions league not long ago, when Barcelona was the only saving grace for la liga.

The advantage of being big spenders Barcelona and Madrid were the seasons that followed those exploits, allowed them to consistently poach top talents from
EPL teams, and distabilized these teams. Madrid and Barca helped themselves with Henry, Mascherano, Alonso, Modric, Bale, Ronaldo, Suarez, top top players very vital to their parent clubs. In return EPL only got those Madrid and Barca deemed surplus to requirements.

That tide of one way flow of players from EPL to la liga will never happen again with the mega money of EPL TV deal now on board, you can never price away top talents from
EPL. United already showed you the future with your failed bid to capture De gea. EPL top guns can now afford to pay their top talents whatever Barca and Madrid can afford to.

Messi and Ronaldo won't be around forever. Soon the tide will turn for ever. Your league and teams will be eventually transformed to poaching ground for EPL top teams.

AjiereTuwo:
I see no point answering you again, quote me when u reach your 16th birthday, If osus can live dat long Goodluck

Goodluck is an Ogbiya man. They speak Edoid language there and not Ogogoro language. We know ogogoro people and know that they have never ever amounted to anything. Ogbia became affiliated to the ogogoro people not long ago, but we all can see that the difference is clear. As small as they are, they had produced one known international figure, the Ogogoro people are yet to.
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/notes-from-atlanta/13466-what-s-really-president-goodluck-jonathan-s-ethnic-group
https://www.ethnologue.com/language/ogb


You are yet to name any ogogoro drinker of international reputation.

I will give you another chance to give it another try.

Wasn't City torn apart by Spurs not long ago and even by Leicester last season.

What's the big deal? Guardiola is obviously over rated. EPL has a way of exposing everyone.

AjiereTuwo:
Nwaosu, i dont know any Ogogoro men, if you asking me talk about great Ijaw men of the Niger Delta region I will tell you about three from my family not even d Ibani clan as a whole, i dont need to hide behind a tribe to name successful individuals like u
ATEDO PETERSIDE
LT ATOWARI PETERSIDE
DAKUKUBIE PETERSIDE
now name you successful drug peddlers and 419ers

Lol! Who are those men? Three local ogogoro drinkers. They are not even known outside Bayelsa, let alone international.

You are a bad comedian.

Let me give you another chance. Just name two internationally known ogogoro drinkers.

AjiereTuwo:
Dear Osu,
I see how u removed OKOLOAMA from your quote,what should i expect from a nwa osu, i have been told by my Igbo houseboys to avoid anything osu, that dey are a cursed set of igbos, and today I have found this to be true

Igbo houseboys? See this poverty stricken ogogoro drinker living in squalor in his waterside shanties talking about Igbo houseboys

Better go and try your luck in oil bunkering, and see if you can atleast eat three square meals.

Meanwhile, you are yet to answer my questions. Can you name just two Ogogoro men of international repute?

AjiereTuwo:
Mr nwaosu or is it osuji, its is clear that a generational curse is following you, go to a living church for deliverance

Ogogoro man. Have you taken your own hydro carbon polluted water today? That's Gowon's and his successive Northern and Yoruba rulers of Nigeria gift to you.

Keep enjoying it and leave Ndiigbo out of your frustrations.

AjiereTuwo:
, okigwe is dat place still on Nigerias map, i thought erosion has eaten it up

You must have mistaken it for your useless Yenegoa where you live in squalor and drink from the same hydrocarbon polluted waters you defecate in? Ndo.

AjiereTuwo:
If you dislike Gen Gowon, then his birthday should be of know concern to you, yet you are talking about the different issues disturbing your osu brain

Ogogoro drinker. Your hydrocarbon polluted water destroyed brain cells didn't allow you see afonjas drawing Ndiigbo into this thread?

I bet it didn't? Did it?

AjiereTuwo:
Ojukwus cowardice is responsible for the state of the red mud region.

Ogogoro drinker, Boro was sliced like a Christmas Goat by Gowon's men.
Is there a single city in your entire ogogoroland? is Yenegoa the only known Ijaw town even at the level of Okigwe?

Your useless rulers are the reason why you live in squalor today, why you drink and cook with the same hydrocarbon polluted waters you defecate in.

I understand why you are frustrated.

AjiereTuwo:
You have come wit dis ur ndoki fb page again as a source for a peoples identity U are one retarded fxxk, this page is to celebrate Gen Yakubu Gowon so dont discuss out of the topic,

You are a frustrated ogogoro drinker. Whats to celebrate about Gowon other than failure, despotism and incompetence?

AjiereTuwo:
When will you Igbos snap out of this brainwashed state

Your crude oil polluted source of water supply for cooking and drinking, a gift of Gowon and his successive failed Nigerian rulers to you, has damaged your brain cells. You can nolonger reason well. Your thought process has been permanently distorted, you are now incapable of rational and logical thoughts.

Leave Ndiigbo out of your frustrations. We are not responsible for them, Gowon and successive list of failed Nigerian leaders and your shortsighted leaders are responsible for your woes.

AjiereTuwo:
I can see that you are frustrated by life, its not mainly your fault, it has to do with your osu lineage, its never too late to leave those eroded lands and come to the blessed Niger delta region, even if na to hawk gala," at all at all na im bad pass"

Ndiigbo has land in abundance, what land do you have? Atlantic ocean is rising and soon those your shanties will be swept off into the Ocean, you will be upgraded from Niger Deltan to Atlantic Oceanian.
Little wonder you were naive enough to zoom into Ndoki people facebook page to expose your little cover, can you be anymore desperate? Did you see how they ignored you like you don't even exist?

Name one Ogogoro man of international repute? None whatsoever, you only known people are criminals/ militants.

AjiereTuwo:
Ojukwu is only respected in the east, but Gowon is respected all round Nigeria

Of course, Gowon as a ruler was a failure. It's only proper he be respected all over the failed nation.

AjiereTuwo:
I am from Rivers state, from your reasoning you must be from d eroded regions

You are from Delta state. This is the last time I will say this. You from the lazy ogogoro drinking, poverty stricken tribe in Delta state.

If you push my button, I might reveal more about you than I intended to.

Orikinla:
Gen. Yakubu Gowon remains the Best Nigerian Head of State since the Independence of Nigeria.

This Yoruba impostor that has shamelessly been claiming Igbo.

Of course, Gowon is Nigeria Best president ever, he represents every failure that Nigeria is today.

Any wonder why Nigeria is a failure. Gowon as useless, clueless and corrupt as he was, is supposed to be a "great" Nigerian ruler.

The despot even had to be forced out of power, as he repeatedly refused to ensure the transition from military to civilian regime.