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Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op):
walefresh3:
bro u are going off key... Re read my question again...did ur leaders steped down for obasanjo during the pdp primary election in 1999 ...? I am not talking about general election...
The north military cacus troll it opened for Southerners to contest in other to appease the SW... Ur people knew the purpose. But they refused to step down for obasanjo in the primary and contested against him...
Beside , obasanjo never the choice of south west .. u people voted against sw choice of app olu falai ... No body black mail se for it...same scenario happened in 2003 primary ....
I am in support of se presidency...but dis is not the way to go about it....
If vp position will influence development into the south east... Go for it.... But do u want to hear the fact...se need something better than that and without the unity of the southern part no futuristic of fiscal federalism...we all are yearning for...
N.B U are hired by umahi to do dis converse...
You are talking nonsense.

OBJ got Igbo support 100% in 1999 and 2003 presidential elections.
What ever happened in the primaries is non of our concern,as those are individual driven.

You can't be saying the North should not contest in 2023, without recognizing that in the South, the SW and SS shouldn't be contesting until SE have had it's turn.
If you are arguing that the SE participated in primaries in 1999 and 2003, then I can as well inform you that Southerners participated in APC primaries in 2014 and as well as main against the North (Buhari) in 2015 and 2019.
So under what guise are some of you demanding that the North should allow for southern presidency come 2023?

If you can't see the justice in the above, then you are dishonest and the SE is about calling out your bullshit now.

Southern unity will only happen when SW and SS embrace equity and fairness and queue behind SE for presidency in 2023, anything else is yeye talk.

Your fiscal policy means nothing to us down in SE just like in the North. You can cry all you like, call us parasites (never mind we want Biafra) all you like, but it will not change anything.
We will not let you have the NIGERIA you crave for, the one where you have all the sweetness while we drink from the gutters.
Una no reach.

And by the way, there is nothing like Southern Solidarity. If the North needs a soft landing in 2023, SE will happily offer her that, in exchange for a slice of our resources that some of you "colombied" in 1970 that have made you comfortable in "One NIGERIA".

What is good for the goose is also good for the gander.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 1:35am On Oct 06, 2021
walefresh3:
the questions I will ask u is..did ur leaders steped down for obasanjo during the primary in 1999 ?
In 2003, ur peoples also contested in the primary election
Exactly my point.
Southerners participated in APC 2014 primaries and indeed many Yorubas, SSners and Igbos contested with Buhari for the main election in 2015 and 2019 elections.

So what is the basis for SW wanting the 2023 president to be a *Southern president* ?
If you can answer this, then you will also understand why that Southern president must be from the SE.

If not, then let the North, and everyone else slug it out, and let no one try to float a dead on arrival southern president Agenda.

https://www.thecable.ng/the-list-2019-presidential-candidates-and-their-political-parties/amp

Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 12:51am On Oct 06, 2021
Elliot2:
Thank you! I have been a lover of the Igbos since I read Half of a Hello Sun. I became a Biafran as a result. I have understood that all the pains the igbo man is passing through today is because of his good heart towards others. But at this point, I really want to advice that they become selfish for their own good. The black man is a very terrible beast, one you must become yourself in order to survive around. I really love Nnamdi Kanu; he does what I really would have loved to do for my people, the ijaws. But like I said, we live among very peculiar people. The igbo would have easily won this secession battle by just allowing the other southerners bare the whole brunt of the country as they carry the economic weight of the country; it would surely collapse on them some day.
We are rectifying everything now, starting from the VAT issue and 2023 elections.

It's a start of a new dawn.
Thanks for the love.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 12:48am On Oct 06, 2021
BKayy:
We call it "Ógbè" in Anambra and I just did so this evening in the presence of IPOB die hards but look at who is texting.

In Igboland there is always room for airing opinion and people listen to the one with superior argument.

And one thing you forgot is that I also have igbo blood running through me. Like I will allow someone chop my head off with mere cutlass without killing him first? Even if the person is with gun, except I am not armed with a gun it is who gets the aim right.
Mpama
Those lots are truly evolving into terrorists.
Threatening any one with contrary opinions.
They feel BIAFRA belongs to them and their group with their shallow intellects and opinions alone.

Eager to have power without standing in the polls to be elected.

They will end badly the way they are going.
There is no two ways about it, and it will be a very tragic end.
Biafra survived MASSOB and her millions of members, it will survive IPOB too.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 12:16am On Oct 06, 2021
FallenShitHole:
Mugu, i am only answering the bolded above and leave out the rest of your garbage. So you want to continue asslicking the north at the expense of the lives of our people? Did you know how many heads of Igbos that have gone at the hands of those terrorists because of trying to pacify them in the name of pollitical alliance? These are people that don't care how you feel. These are people that will continue to burn your porperties and businesses in their land and kill your people at whims so far as you remain in the same country with them, yet you want those killings to continue because you want to allign with them to get to presidency of a shithole country?

Presidency to do what exactly? 8 yrs at most and they will take it back and the killings of our people will continue? You sound like those Igbo fools that blame our people whenvever they are killed in the north. My fren, you are the dumbest Igbo alive. And you know what, you are just dreaming for nothing. Even if APC and PDP give out their presidential tickets to Igbos, we are not interested. Politics is banned in Igboland pending the restoration of Biafra, All you fools must learn the hard way this time. Ndi ara one nigeria.
Stop being stupid.

People are dying in SW and SS too.
But they are all shouting one Nigeria.

And you keep offering Igbo heads for them to unite with the North over?

Grow a brain.

You can't break out of NIGERIA alone, you need to adapt a strategy.
Let everyone burn and feel the pain.

Read Elliot2 post to grow a brain if you can.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 12:11am On Oct 06, 2021
Elliot2:
If not for the fact that south east now have appreciable amount of oil and gas which one Nizooria will exploit with reckless abandon, especially by those parasitic north, I am of the opinion that Igbo's should play the dirty zoo game by "you chop, I chop and clean mouth politics" and not agitate for Biafra or southern unity. In that way, a time will come when nothing is left in the country to chop and it becomes a failed country on its own. If possible, join the north in VAT dispute, money and investments taxes continue to bring the awof money for everyone. Be purposeful in providing the least VAT or TAX. Be dirty in your political schemings even if it involves aligning with the north. You don't have any allies in the south anyway. The truth is the other southerners are your biggest enemies to your progress. I am an ijaw man from Bayelsa state, and I am telling you this truth for free. These two regions are your biggest enemies, and not really the north. If you can join in the mud to play the typical zoo politics, in no distance time, the other souths would be the ones fighting to secede. You guys have sacrificed enough blood just to open the eyes of these blockheaded regions to the reality that this demonic lugard's business idea is not working for their good. So eat any free oil money from the south and clean mouth. Buhari's poverty schemes will continue to choke them to death. Meanwhile, let Buhari continue to borrow, while you eat any one that gets to you, meanwhile the debt burden is on oil. The only issues with my advice is the north's annoying religious extremism that is difficult to condone being part of the one nizooria.
This is the way forward. cool
And should they try to scream secession in the future, play neutral too.
Your post is really full of salient points.

cc: Bkayy
Slayerforever
Alexbells
Eastlink

You guys need to check out this comment.
Very much on point.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 11:46pm On Oct 05, 2021
kiss
Eastlink:
This is where the Yoruba’s have the edge. Even the Ijaws I must confess have understood the game. Every ethnic group is planning and positioning themselves for the worst except Ndigbo. IPOB and their thuggish attitude of it must happen now or everything burns. Where is MASSOB and Uwazurike who began the it must happen now? I guess they’ve fizzled out.
Yes!
There must be a long term plan.
Something like a 200 year plan, mapped out in stages and carefully handed over from one generation of Igbo patriots to another.
The plan would be modified as conditions change but long term goal remains same.

The way IPOB is going, it's obvious they all hope to have Biafra in their lifetime and enjoy their fruits.
There is an obvious lack of long term planning betrayed by Ozugbo ozugbo tigbo tigbo manner they run things.

They act like it's just Ndiigbo vs the North.
Like there is no SS and SW in the equation.

Having no solution on how to handle the SW/SS factor, they pretend those people are on same mission with them, which was why MNK was frolicking with Dele Momodu and Asari Dokubo and Annie Briggs.

I swear. Ndiigbo can do much much better than what IPOB is offering us. It's a crying shame.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 11:28pm On Oct 05, 2021
FallenShitHole:
Strategy will kee you there. I am reading your conversation with the yorubas. Who are you going to align with politicallly in that dungeon to get political relevance which is it's presidency? Who? What will vice presidency of the dungeon do for Igbos? Which ethnic group, yoruba, north and even SS will align with you to let you climg to the dungoen's presidency?

Why wouldn't you dumbos learn that you have no future politically and otherwise in that dungoen? They are only pretending to be looking at your way now because of the activities of IPOB which they are afraid of. If IPOB was not here to cause mayhem for them, they wouldn't have had any consideration for all you Igbo political fools that never learn. Yet you want other Igbos to follow you in chasing shadows year in, year out.
Get your useless heads out from that turnel, for there is no road there. You want southern alliance to win presidency, so if finally you didn't get it from yorubas, then what next? So you are dreaming of the dungoen throwing both APC and PDP ticket at you Igbos like they once did to the yorubas in 1999 and recently to northers in 2019? Stop dreaming. The faster you understand that your case in nigeria is always different, the better for you.

All you Igbo political foolish dreamers should stop disgracing Igbos. You are the ones these other nigerians look at and call all of us mugus whom they will continue to chop every election year, because they have swonr that an Igbo man must never rule over them. And you want us to continue waiting for them until they change thier minds about you? Which year will that be? There is no hope for Igbos in nigeria, both political and otherwise.

The only way is Biafra or Biafra through IPOB way. Soon, just very soon, APC and PDP will nominate their 2023 presidential candidates and you all fools will come back here to cry IPOB should help you to sit at home to crash the dungeon. I am sure by then you all will change your handles and become anonymous. Brainless foolsih zombies, repeating the same idiocy every 4 years and yet, expecting differnt result.
Don't be silly.
Now get this. NIGERIA is rigged to favor the North.
But if we keep fighting the North, the North will keep giving SW and SS crumbs from our own share, which they would all happily accept and call us fools, sing one NIGERIA and see no reason to stop the North.

So what do we do?
We crash the game.

We beat them at their own game.
We help the North become eternal masters of NIGERIA.
We let them take everything that belongs to everyone, we stop fighting them so that they stop rewarding those two zones.
We stop fighting the North and the SS and SW will nolonger have something to blackmail the North with to offer them crumbs.
You see how Ghana must go was shared to Clark and co when you IPOB became too vocal with your Biafra stuff? Yes! That's the game. The more you fight the North, the more those people are important to the North, so they win little and you lose alot. It's a pattern that has been on repeat since 1970. Zik understood the game better, hence the success of the 1970s we enjoyed politically.

We let the North have everything.

Let all man feel the heat.
Let all man queue up in turns to serve as the VP for the North for the next 100 years. grin
Any one from the South who dare challenge the North, we let them burn alone. cool

If the North come up with squashing 13% in the future as Crude oil become less money spinning, we play neutral and let those involved carry their own albatross. If they rebel and the North send soldiers there, we stay neutral and let them handle them.
They(SS and SW) have alot to lose fighting the North, most of which they gained because we fought the North in 1967-70. But we have nothing to lose staying Neutral and everything to gain letting them get themselves burnt fighting the North, while we take back all they took from us by offering the North a buffer.

We should really sit back and let things flow in Nigeria.We have done enough.
This freedom must not come in our lifetime, Catalonia started fighting for freedom before us, and they are still fighting as we speak, but not with guns.
It's not an Ozugbo ozugbo things.
That's the mistake you IPOB are making.

There must be a long term vision and plan.
Politics › Re: Appeal To Igbos On Nairaland by Igboid: 11:15pm On Oct 05, 2021
Biafra is a political problem that will require a political solution.
IPOB have been told this umpteen times, but their brainwashing is permanent.

The only alternative is outright war.
But is IPOB ready for a war?
The answer is No!

They rush and cite Tigray warriors in Ethiopia, but the fighters in that place are also Political office holders.

IPOB has not conquered the SE but she wants to square off with NIGERIA.
They have no Political power in SE, but want power through anarchy and barrels of gun, and when NIGERIA responds, they rush to hide behind Igbo civilians as body shield and start tagging Amnesty, UN, etc.

IPOB has no viable strategy. Atleast they have not shown any so far.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:57pm On Oct 05, 2021
TheSupleemLeada:
Lol....what happened to we the "SE/SS" alliance? Isn't VAT a SS issue?

My answer to your question is: The SW don't owe you any fvckin thing, and I have no issues if another northerner becomes president. as we speak military personnel are on their way to the east.... keep cappin shit.
The SE don't owe you a shit too, stop sending Akeredolu to come solicit for our support.
We no send una.
Look at Umahi and how his face is constantly frowned, does he look to you like someone that send una? grin

The North will rule NIGERIA till eternity as far as SW and SS don't rally around for a SE president. You can go mark it down somewhere.
You started it in 2015, we will finish it for you.

Let the military come, we have survived worse and yet stand tall. cool
Politics › Re: Communique Issued By South Eastern Governors After Meeting In Enugu by Igboid: 10:49pm On Oct 05, 2021
Baawahala:
I understand the politics these guys are trying to play.
Igbo have been left alone to push for a better Nigeria so long,and now they want to play dumb and allow the others to push and get hit also.
The more progressive and republican you are in Nigeria,the more you are resented,the more enemies,the more a fear factor is developed against you.
You are wise. cool
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:46pm On Oct 05, 2021
FallenShitHole:
Create your own group, you little brain and show us how to do it. Oji onu!
Lol! You sound like a terrorist, to be honest. grin
The SE Governors are showing us how to do it, and we are impressed.

When you get your acts right and start doing better, we will take notice too and applaud you.

But if you continue this way, you will soon go the way of MASSOB or Bakassi boys.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:45pm On Oct 05, 2021
TheSupleemLeada:
What's funny is how you think your leaders are playing chess when in reality they're playing ludo. Last time I checked no Yoruba leader came to beg the south east for votes in any election, plus southern presidency is only but a few in the issues that where brought up, the VAT issue which would largely benefit the oil producing south south and other productive states are also being supported by the south west which have nothing to loose in the long run. Plus how does my opinion or the opinion of south west governors affect the decision of the political parties and decision of millions of voters in the north and south? It's one thing to field an Igbo presidency it's another thing for him to win. Or do you propose we rig an Igbo president into office?
VAT issue is the least of SE concerns. KnowNo this and know peace. VAT or no VAT, we are good.
It's not our fight and we want no part of it.

SW persons have come out publicly to demand that the North hand over to South on the basis of rotation and equity.
So if you are honest and care about equity, why have you not announced that in the SOUTH, SW and SS should step down for SE? grin
This is the question you have been running around in circles trying to evade.
The simple issue is that you have your game and we have ours now.

Let all man play theirs.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:40pm On Oct 05, 2021
BKayy:
On the last part, I still don't understand why IPOB can't see beyond their nose.
How do they think Taliban survived US, Russian and British invasion?
How do they think Eritrea defeated Ethiopia?
Or South Sudan manage to become independent?

You can't undermine the effect of real Power in insurrection, revolution or any movement like this. And that real power is from those existing in the current power structure.
Currently only Anambra State in SE have refused to voluntary invite Military into any affairs of the state because unlike the remaining 4, they are not part of the two arms of Nigeria (PDP and APC). Look at it this way as the only independent arm of Ndigbo in Nigerian politics. That's why the remaining 4 can't stand Anambra in even Economic impact.

If Anambra manage to lose that Umbrella courtesy to their No Election in November, it will be hell for them because they will lose that shield they never knew protects them.

Anyways, the curious part of me still want to see what they wish to achieve with such self destructive stupidity because I have never seen such in all my research. It is new and I will like to see how it ends.
IPOB just can't seem to get the basics right.
As a proud Biafran, it's painful watching them get things awfully wrong from the stands.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:36pm On Oct 05, 2021
Ttalk:
You are not wise, Nigeria doesn't start in 1999 dude neither democracy. The first Nigeria president after independence was an Igbo man, stop robbing it on all other ethnic groups who haven't tasted power since independence
It's obvious you have ran out of argument.
Thanks for your time.
Atleast you were civil all through. I appreciate that. It's rare on this forum.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:31pm On Oct 05, 2021
onumadu:
The OP assumes that the South east governors actually care about their own people rather than their personal interests.

I've learned over the years to not trust Igbo politicians particularly the governors (or even presidency) until they show their hands.

A lot of Igbo trusted Jonathan and thought he had a plan until they found out that he had none, except for himself -soft landing out of Aso rock.

A lot of Igbo also trusted PDP until the party demoted Igbo steadily till they lost out even the Dep. Senate president position.

This race to the bottom will only ensure that the presidency stays in the North forever.

Who will stop Miyetti Allah from stealing our land if we play this type of politics?

The Yorubas have the VP position today, but the Fulanis will take their land before they even dream of taking Igboland. grin

The best politics to play is one whereby you take over your land. It doesn't matter what happens in Abuja! cool
Don't be silly.
Supporting GEJ was another blunder from SE in retrospect now.
We should have played it then like we are currently playing on VAT.

All Nigerian Politicians are useless, true.
But I'd rather have an Igbo politician at the top than have non-Igbo groups on top calling the shots .
Nothing stops us from getting our politics right and still have ESN chasing Miyetti out of our forests.
Both are not mutually exclusive.
We don't have to give up on one to have the other.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:27pm On Oct 05, 2021
TheSupleemLeada:
I never knew south west leaders had so much power....no wonder you guys can't keep tinubu's name out of your mouths.

Last time checked it was largely rotation between two regions and are you expecting the south west leaders to fight on your behalf for presidency? Why haven't you asked this same stupid question to your brothers in the south south who are considering pushing Jonathan for another term without considering their Igbo cousins. Or does the future of Igbo land lie in the hands of Yoruba's? How does our support matter when your south south brothers are not showing support talkless of Northerners? Some of idiots somehow feel that Yoruba's owe you some form of loyalty when you guys are treacherous bastards..... stupid talk.
There is no rotation anywhere.

But he who comes to equity must come with clean hands.

If are telling the North to give up presidency to the SOUTH because they just completed second term, why then do you want the presidency thrown open to SW and SS in the South, both of who have tested the presidency since 1999 , and VP as well, when SE haven't tested any of those.

The answer is simple;
You are not interested in any equity or justice.
You are out for your own interests even if it means SE burns in the process.
Which to me is fair enough.

SE has also Learnt to play you at your own rules and games too.

So let all man relax and play the game.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:18pm On Oct 05, 2021
FallenShitHole:
Dumbo, go and learn how to read. My question is have you ever seen Spanish police shot and kill Catalonians during protests? Mumu, read again and comprende. Have you ever heard that voters were shot at and killed during elections in Catalonian and in Spain? Have you ever heard that votes were stolen and thieves amongst them anounced as winners? Daft head, did you know that Catalonia is already autonomous? Thunder fire you and Biafra being political problem.

Aturu. The stupidity you are exhibiting now is all in the name of N2,000 and 5kg bag of rice. You won't see any of that anymore in your wretched miserable life. Go and search for a new job to earn your garry. Politics have been banned in all Igboland. Getting your politics right in your dungeon called nigeria will kee you there. Ewu awusa that never learn. Every 4 yrs you will come out to repeat the same circle and yet expect a different result that never materialize. Anuofia Inoma!!
You are stupid.
Catalonians adapted to their own realities and adopted a long term escape plan from Spain.

The onus is on you to adapt to your own Nigerian environment, learn the loophole in their system ( this you can do better by being involved in Nigerian politics) and look for ways to exploit them and free yourself.

All you Know is raw emotions with no iota of strategy.
You will all soon be wasted.
Biafra deserves a better group with better planning and execution than IPOB is offering.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:06pm On Oct 05, 2021
TheSupleemLeada:
But how can we support Igbo candidate when your PDP isn't even ready to field one. Lol, jokers
Just as your cunning and mischievous Politicians from SW admitted that for equity and fairness the North should hand over to a southern president.

We want them to also publicly admit that for same equity and fairness, any new Southern president MUST come from SE.

Admit this first, then we talk of Political party politics.

This is the honesty we are talking about. If you can't admit that, and you want to mischievously claim that every NIGERIAN should be qualified to run for president, then why did you try to guilt trip the North into not contesting?
You are not as wise as you think you are, we can see through your petty games and gimmicks.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 10:02pm On Oct 05, 2021
FallenShitHole:
Why are some of you so daft and dumb? Equating Spain to your dungoen called nigeria? Have you ever heared that Catalonia protesters where shot and killed by the Spanish police? Did you know that Catalonia has their regional government in Spain and enjoys autonomy? Why are you so dumb? Are you aware that during elections in Spain and in Catalonia, people are not shot dead, and the votes of their people counts after each election? You want to involve IPOB in nigeria politics with how many senators, to get what exactly for you? Dumbo answer me. Tufiakwa!! Illiterate.
Don't be stupid.
We saw the brutality Castillians exhibited towards Catalonia during their failed attempt at referendum some years ago.
They harassed them in streets with police and finally imprisoned their Political leader.

Stop being stupid.
There is no where on Earth where a parasite gives up a host without fighting tooth and nail.
It never happened. Not even in the so called developed Europe.

Biafra is a political problem, and we must find a Political solution to it.
Getting our politics in Nigeria right is part and parcel of the puzzle.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 9:56pm On Oct 05, 2021
Ttalk:
The way hate is growing in your heart is becoming alarming, nobody will dash any region presidency if that's what's peppering your body.

Nigerian will vote any credible candidate irrespective of region that doesn't mean the politicians from those region would sit back a expect a free launch.

SE position on VAT would determine Southern support they would get at the appropriate time. So, stop emotional whining and confront your plague. There's no free launch in politics. No one would dash you president in 2023 if you don't work for it
There is no hate here bro.
If you see any, maybe it's your reflection, we tend to see what is in us in others.

So you know Nigerians should vote just any credible candidate, yet some of you have been putting pressure on the North not to contest in 2023 while mischievously citing need for equity as reason why power should return to South.
But when we remind you that the SW has been president twice and vice president twice since 1999 while SS has tasted VP and Presidency within that same time frame, and so therefore for real equity it should be SE presidency Agenda in 2023 and not be thrown open for the other two zones, you all suddenly change music.
You see the dishonesty and blatant insult to our intelligence as a people.

If SE after all the support we gave to Obj for SW presidency twice and GEJ for SS presidency twice and even supported their 13% derivation, cannot get you lots to support us for 2023 out of magnanimity, equity, fairness and everything right , honest and just, then forget it, we have already gotten a good measure of all of you.
We will play you at your game from now onwards.

No emotions should be attached.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 9:37pm On Oct 05, 2021
Loverofpeace:
Mr rabiu,we igbos are not president freak ,you can keep your présidency to the north all we want is Biafra or restructuring any other thing is trash .
Abu m onye Igbo kponkwem.
Kwusi iberi ibe.

Biafra and getting our full share in Nigeria while we are still in Nigeria are not mutually exclusive.

Learn a lesson from Catalonia.
They are playing the Spanish politics and currently are the most vibrant Economic zone in Spain, yet they continue to work hard on their secession from Spain underground.

Mulu ako for once. We must marry BIAFRA with fighting for our rights and equal share within Nigerian politics.
We can multitask.
Let those for BIAFRA bring their A-game, let the Igbos in Nigeria politics bring their A-game too.
I am rooting for both camps.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 9:35pm On Oct 05, 2021
SlayerForever:
You are giving the governors too much credit and will likely be disappointed. My 2 ayola.
When when they disappoint, I will be here to call them out.

But for now, they should be praised for what they currently did.

Eto dike na nke omelu, o mekwa ozo.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 9:31pm On Oct 05, 2021
Loverofpeace:
Divide and rule people don come again,no matter what you do or say we Igbos will work hand in hand with yorubas than any other group in Nigeria.God bless Biafra ,God bless oduduwa..
Let the South unite behind SE presidency in 2023 if they are truly honest.

SE supported SW president in 1999 and 2003 and SS president in 2011 and 2015.

But are any of these zones calling for SE presidency in 2023?
Nope, they are all scheming to get themselves back into the slot again, hidding behind a mischievous *Southern Presidency* plot.

Power is not given, power is taken they tell us. Okay we have heard.

So now we play them at their own rules.

He who comes to justice must come with clean hands.
There is no dividing what was never one.
Politics › Re: The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 9:19pm On Oct 05, 2021
Going forward, this is how we should approach every single issue in this country.
Strictly on interest.

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Politics › The Dawn Of A New Era:. SE Finally Learnt Her Lessons by Igboid(op): 9:17pm On Oct 05, 2021
So finally, SE governors got the memo and delivered!

Kudos to Governor Ikpeazu, Ugwuanyi, Uzodimma, Obiano and Umahi.

Unu nwelu ubulu zuru ezu.

The way they completely avoided the matter of VAT like it's no man business is a music to my ears.
And they refused to get drawn in the mischievous *Southern presidency* SW is leading, when if it's about equity, fairness and magnanimity, they should be talking of SE presidency. Seeing as SE had supported SW president in 2003 and 1999 and SS president in 2011 and 2015.
But these people are not honest, so we have to play them at their own game.

We have finally mature as a political zone in this country.

IPOB and other emotional Igbo youths eager to see SE stand with SW/SS at this point in time, should grow a brain and think like a people with ako na uche.

Everything aburo gidigidi. These our governors are not worst than their counterparts all over the country, I understand we want them standing with us for Biafra, but that is not possible for now.
To get Biafra, we have to solve the Nigeria Political puzzle and I'm happy that current Igbo governors have a better grasp of the Political conundrum of SE than those before them. Politically now, the North are not our enemies, neither are the SS and SW our friends, let alone brothers. Everyone is out for their own interests and we MUST protect our own interests even if it means getting other region burnt to ashes figuratively, we will still do it.

There are millions of reasons why we should be angry with our 5 SE governors, but their stance on VAT and Southern presidency isn't one of them.
On those two issues, they represented us well so far and should be commended.

Udo.
Politics › Re: Communique Issued By South Eastern Governors After Meeting In Enugu by Igboid: 9:08pm On Oct 05, 2021
Koval12:
As an Igbo man, I cover my face in shame.. Goodness me!! What kind of cowards do we have as leaders.. Gosh!!!
You are obviously allowing your Yoruba and non Igbo southern friends deceive you.

If you use your ako na uche, you will see the ancient wisdom ndi ochie in that communique.
Politics › Re: VAT Brouhaha: SE Should Assume A Neutral Stand. by Igboid(op): 8:56pm On Oct 05, 2021
So finally, SE governors got the memo and delivered!

Kudos to Governor Ikpeazu, Ugwuanyi, Uzodimma, Obiano and Umahi.

Unu nwelu ubulu zuru ezu.

The way they completely avoided the matter of VAT like it's no man business is a music to my ears.
And they refused to get drawn in the mischievous *Southern presidency* SW is leading, when if it's about equity, fairness and magnanimity, they should be talking of SE presidency. Seeing as SE had supported SW president in 2003 and 1999 and SS president in 2011 and 2015.
But these people are not honest, so we have to play them at their own game.

We have finally mature as a political zone in this country.

IPOB and other emotional Igbo youths eager to see SE stand with SW/SS at this point in time, should grow a brain and think like a people with ako na uche.

Everything aburo gidigidi. These our governors are not worst than their counterparts all over the country, I understand we want them standing with us for Biafra, but that is not possible for now.
To get Biafra, we have to solve the Nigeria Political puzzle and I'm happy that current Igbo governors have a better grasp of the Political conundrum of SE than those before them. Politically now, the North are not our enemies, neither are the SS and SW our friends, let alone brothers. Everyone is out for their own interests and we MUST protect our own interests even if it means getting other region burnt to ashes figuratively, we will still do it.

There are millions of reasons why we should be angry with our 5 SE governors, but their stance on VAT and Southern presidency isn't one of them.
On those two issues, they represented us well so far and should be commended.

Udo.
Politics › Re: Fiscal Federalism: Lagos Requests For 1% In Revenue Allocation Formula by Igboid: 8:49pm On Oct 05, 2021
owneebeghjou:
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Your thinking lacks good insight.
The request of a special status for Lagos state does not negate that there are people from other states contributing their quota to the development of the state. It is simply a call for more to be done from the center to help the state and the people prosper the more.

Whether you are from Ikot, Awomama, Kwale, or Dajin Kowa, every tribe in Nigeria have a stake in Lagos state.
Story.
Politics › Re: Fiscal Federalism: Lagos Requests For 1% In Revenue Allocation Formula by Igboid: 8:48pm On Oct 05, 2021
I have a better suggestion.
Why not divide the country so that Lagos can get 100% in Odua republic?
Why must it be in Nigeria?
Politics › Re: Communique Issued By South Eastern Governors After Meeting In Enugu by Igboid: 8:45pm On Oct 05, 2021
Donedeal1:
No Vat
No MNK
No zoning of president
No agitating for social amenities
No railroad tracks
Just imagine motions with no movement.
No MNK?
How would you know? Everything mustn't be made open.
It's obvious MNK case would require more work.
No zoning of presidency! Are the SW/SS ready to support SE presidency? Nope! They want it themselves!
Our best option is to keep our cards close to our chest and watch events unfold.

No agitation for social amenities?
There is no social amenity in any part of NIGERIA.

No railway tracks? We have to place the cart before the horse.
Get the politics right.

Motions and no movement?
Well, that's Nigeria for you.
It's a failed nation afterall, but we have to work with what we have.
Politics › Re: Communique Issued By South Eastern Governors After Meeting In Enugu by Igboid: 8:33pm On Oct 05, 2021
Gandollaar:
You are not getting any prize for writting this though!

They said Igbos don't know how to play politics grin
Fa amaro ka anyi sili kwado!

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