₦airaland Forum

Ijoh:
Your lies will do you no good, you mean like the nonesense one Ibo wrote online saying Ogbia are Ibo.
That means Ibo have become President in the person of Goodluck Jonathan.
Una mumu ehn.
All Ibo lies and rants end on Nairaland.

No Igbo person ever claimed Ogbia.
GEJ came to us at Enugu and told us that he is one of us, based on Eastern region heritage.
He took up the Igbo name Azikiwe, and in the spirit of equity, fairness and magnanimity,we shoved aside the VP position the North was dangling before us to support his candidature.
A costly mistake on our own part in retrospect now, that will never repeat itself again, considering how ungrateful Minorities have been since GEJ was ousted.

Either way, we knew fully well that Ogbia was never Izon.
Any Izon man who finds himself in Ogbia will need an interpreter to understand the locals just as an Igbo man would.
The three languages (Ogbia, Igbo and Izon) are totally unrelated.
They are like parallel lines that never meet.

Ijoh:
You are more dumb than Buhari.

Go and claim them physical.
All Ibo lies and rants end on Nairaland.

There are countless articles written by Ogbia people reaffirming their independent ethnic nationality.
What ever that is built on falsehood like Ijaw franchise, will never survive the test of time.

Ijoh:
Goodluck is from Ogbia when he was President, which people do you here about everywhere? Is it not Ijaw?
Your mumu too much.
Some Igbo say Ogbia is Igbo, you say they are Ibibio while they are under Ijaw Youth Council IYC Ijaw National Congress INC and the Lovers of Ijaw Nation Organization LINO.
All Ibo lies and rants, end on the internet.

Ogbia is not and has never been Ijaw.
Not now, not in the past, not in the future.
They have an independent language of their own, which you will never understand.
INC and IYC are nothing but franchise groups co-opting every single independent riverine group into their cohort whose sole aim of joining is to partake in the crude oil pipeline protection deal that the rulers of NIGERIA has assigned to the Ijaw.
Don't get it twisted.

Ijoh:
That was how you guys said Ijaw people are Ibo people.
Have Ijaw ever claimed Ibo land?
No, but it's always Ibo claiming Ijaw territories.
You guys wrote your normal nonesense on the internet, saying, Ogbia is Ibo, and since Goodluck Jonathan is from Ogbia, why didn't you guys say Ibo have ruled Nigeria before in person of Goodluck, since you say his Ogbia people are Ibo.
Liars.
Azikowei is never Ibo from fathers side.
Go and find out.

Lol!
You are really mad.
Azikiwe come from Umezechima clan in Onitsha.
Ogbia is not Ijaw. Their language is Ibibiod.
They were never Ijaw.

PeaceJoyLove:
Yeah! I think I heard this story. Hmmm!

This is deep.

Don't tell me you are that naive.

Azikwe is not considered a hero by modern Igbos for obvious reasons. But he was never an Ijaw man. And there is no name like Azikowei.

Azikwe is an abridged form of "Umuazi kita ka na-iwe". Meaning "Children of nowadays are prone to anger".

It has nothing to do with Ijaw.

Kyase:
They are not doing themselves any good with those moves abeg

Now 2023 is nearing and I’m still waiting for their candidates but I have seen none
South west is already miles ahead in their game but my people from the east are still killing themselves for nothing

Nobody from the East is your people.
Looks like you don't know where your people are.
How exactly is SW miles ahead? A people who out of hate saddled Nigeria with Buhari in 2015 are miles ahead of people who rejected Buhari from 2003 to 2019.
You need help.

Tranquill:
Ofcourse it's hard to remember when you parade nairaland with hundreds of monikers. I remember that day it was with your pazenzia or pazemunmun one. Maybe your chronic alzheimer is creeping in gradually.

You are mad.
I never had such stupid discussion with you.

NeverBrokeAgainG:
Na who no know you here dey take
Wetin you talk serious

Confused Igbophobic human being.
I'm glad you know him too.

Tranquill:
You are the one that is digging yourself in.

You are angry that hypocrites like you are being exposed.
I still remember when I said you are from Abia State, you were angry and replied me with insults. Is it not because you feel Abia people are inferior to Anambra that you claim you come from?

Abeg go siddon.

Lol!
I don't remember ever having such stupid discussion with you.
I see you are good at making things out from your ass.
You clearly met no Imo man just as I clearly had no such stupid discussion with you.

You need to check into a health institution, Igbo matter has messed up with your head.

Tranquill:
Munmun man you think I am your type?
The man I met his first name starts with A and his last name E. Met him several times at Lavender Hill Library Battersea near Clapham Junction South West London. He's always there to read newspapers and surf the net. I used to go there to study and chat with friends. Still have family that live close to that place.

See your munmun face.

You are not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree.
When in a hole, you should stop digging.

catherine1998:
My guy see the major culprit in case are Anambra ppl & they have always been the ppl creating division in Igboland from time immemorial, the Imolites that often times tow this line do that to please their Anambra friends. Secondly, that man you met in UK is a very useless & foolish old man, if not that he very stupid at his age he ought to have known that the territory known today as Ebonyi comprises of afikpos who are far more intelligent & educated more than his present day Imo state even as at 1972 when he left to UK, well in anycase no Ebonyi man is interested in marring from state like Imo that has most of their girls as prostitutes, so he can keep his daughters or better still give them his support for their prostitutions job, bcus Ebonyi ppl will never need his daughters.

Don't be foolish.
The person you are replying is a known Igbo hater.
He hates the Anambra man as much as he hates the Ebonyi man.
And oh! He met no Imo man from UK that told him any nonsense.
He is just making up stories out of his ass.

Don't be that gullible or easily played.

Tranquill:
Not true. I have met Igbos in PortHarcourt, Lagos and Oyo from Imo, Anambra, Abia who are only united in their assertion that Ebonyi and some Enugu people are not Igbos. Funny enough, even the Anambra and sometimes Imo would also want to look down on Abia person as inferior.

I also met a man from Imo State in the UK few years ago who told me point blank that he will never support his daughter to marry someone from Ebonyi. I asked him why and he said "my son, if you tell an Ebonyi person that a vehicle is coming, he will jump right in front". He was telling me in parable that Ebonyi people are Munmun. This man has been in the UK since 1972, never visited Nigeria but still holds such prejudice.

I can tell you that you met no one.
You are as usual making up stories from your ass.

afube:
thanks indeed! like I said there is absolutely nothing IPOB can do within its limited capacity to throw off British-powered fulani colonialism but they have been able to do one critical thing towards achieving liberty, they have shown absolute courage to engage the enemy! The next thing is to have absolute faith in The Most High to show up on the D Day, Odeshi and charms will spectacularly fail us........violence for violence sake will also beget more violence....................and that will also fail. Biafra will come on God's terms and no man will be able to take His Glory for the miracle that will happen,.........indeed the restoration of Biafra will be a landmark miracle.Sounds far fetched abi......just watch this space.

Nwanne leave God and gods alone.
Freedom is not gotten by putting trust in God or gods.
Freedom is gotten by having a long term plan and strategy, careful study of your enemy strength and weaknesses and finding ways to exploit his weaknesses whenever he exposes them by making wrong moves.
Sometimes you can even force him to expose those weaknesses by bating him into wrong moves.

That's how you get freedom.
Not the gibberish and foolish talks of God, gods and chukwu okike Abiama.

I hate what I don't like.

Eastlink:
Lastly, you noticed a few threads about Peter Obi and the Pandora box stuff. It's obvious some people are out to demonize all SE leaders and political hopeful.

That's why I said there is nothing like Southern Solidarity.
The people out to benefit from Igbo Political misfortunes and have been doing so are found in the other two southern zones. They all work hard to keep us down.
I'm not saying it with water in my mouth.

Ndiigbo must as a matter of survival, stay away from any form of unity in whatever guise with those two zones, unless they are both uniting to support equity and fairness by all publicly coming out to declare support for SE presidency rotation.

If they are not, then we have no business with them.
Make all man dey their dey.

Check out the hypocrisy. They are all out to tarnish strong Igbo presidential candidates like Obi, so that they can turn around and claim that Igbos have no reasonable candidates to present for the race.

Eastlink:
Yeah, you hit the nail. Clearly explained.

When I was a corp member serving in a Yoruba state.
Could you believe that the Igbos in my LGA had an unofficial "Igbo corper" group.
Immediately I landed from orientation camp to the local government, they were already collecting our phone numbers, and after the general corper welcome, they called us aside and welcomed us. They made sure we got good accomodation and those of them passing out gave us their property they couldn't travel with.
The other corp members found our little Igbo caucus meetings to be a bit tribalistic, but that's who we are, we cherish "nzuko Umunna".
Igbos bunch together wherever we find ourselves. We don't stop others from doing so. But we are generally a communal people.
This tend to threaten non Igbos.

Eastlink:
I understand anything can happen. But after going through that fake news. I want you guys to be on guard. But I’m simply wasting my time as the rest Nigerians now know how to press Igbo button. And when they do so, trust the emotionally charged Igbos to dance to their tune. Especially IPOB dudes.

The whole thing starts and ends online bro.
The Farmer in Ezza village doesn't know what someone wrote in nairaland.
But you will never convince her that any one else is more of a kinsman to her than fellow Igbos in far away Anambra.

I was once travelling to Taraba on public bus and our vehicle stopped at a remote place in Northern cross River in the night.
I alighted to buy something, and noticed that the girl in the shop was speaking an Igbo dialect I was struggling to understand.
I asked her if she was speaking Igbo with my Anambra dialect, she laughed and told me yes, and quickly switched to speaking to me with central Igbo.
The mum came and she introduced her to me, she was happy to see me, I bought soft drink and all and sat in their shop to drink.
I could feel the love and unity with them, they told me they are from Izzi and came to that village 10 years ago

I have travelled across the length width of NIGERIA, all I receive is love from Igbos in those locations once they hear you speak Igbo.
It doesn't matter the part of Igboland you come from.
The kind of Unity and love Igbos show ourselves, no other NIGERIAN group have that, and it scares the hell out of them. We easily form Igbo union wherever we go and very colonial in nature in the sense that once one Igbo steps in a place, before you know it, he has come back to bring more Igbos to that place and before you know it, that place has become an Igbo enclave. It takes a people with communal culture to accomplish that.

Nigerians are confused about Igbos.
One moment they tell themselves that Igbos are too tribalistic and segregative to non Igbos and would not embrace you if you are not one of them.
At other times they tell themselves that Igbos are not United

Eastlink:
Cc Igboid. Hope you can observe the new trend of threads with anti-Igbo and trying to pitch Igbos against themselves. I just saw a fake post with a fake link on Umahi due to the VAT resolution and other recent Pro-Igbonstsnce of the Governor. If Slayerforever, Bbkay and other so-called Biafran loyalist can be easily filled, it means you people have a long job to do.

Yes! I see them. They are pitching Igbos against themselves in their dreams.
When they are done, they should step offline to Igbo cities and towns and watch the truth stare at them.

Umahi understand the Igbophobic sentiments that unites all NIGERIA.
If telling them all the bad things about Igbo they want to listen to, is his own strategy at playing the national politics, then I'm fully behind him.
Let him tell them more, the joke is on his non Igbo audience. Umahi and all of us know the reality on ground.
No Igbo town/village would as an entity choose NIGERIA over the rest of the Igbo clans scattered in five SE states, including Rivers, Delta,Cross River and Benue.

I didn't initially understand the game Umahi and Uzodimma were playing. But I understand better now. I can see the bigger picture now, and in the future, when we take a look back, we will be grateful for to both of them.

Any Igbo man praising Wike or standing with him on any issue is a dunce. Wike is fully Igbophobic and will never align himself with anything to that would benefit Ndiigbo.
I saw true nature of Wike as early as 2016 when IPOB were still praising him and made many threads here about him to warn Ndiigbo.

OneTemplate:
Lol. I read this first line and stopped reading. You're a clown. Cowardly GEJ who was trying to buy a political base throughout his entire Presidency , by sucking up to Northerners, would never deliver fiscal federalsim if he is President for 100 years!!!!!

It says a lot about you Igbos and your unimaginably hateful soul that Ijaws, the kinsmen of GEJ, no longer talk about Jonathan.

This is because they find him a worthless President and an embarrasment who did nothing for them and wasted the slot of the SS while trying constantly to appease and placate the North.

Yet, as a measure of your hateful soul, Igbos continue to be the only ethnic group talking up GEJ till today!!

You are all pathetic jokers.

Lol! He needed Northern votes for re-election, but once he won in 2015, anything else would have been possible.
Either way, there was a better chance at Fiscal federalism under GEJ than under Buhari you sons of hate driven by stained Igbophobic hearts saddled the country with, thinking you were getting back at Igbos.
The joke is on you.

Igbos have been proven right in their rejection of Buhari and Yorubas have exposed themselves as a shortsighted people who plunged the country into the dark ages out of innate Igbophobia which they transferred to GEJ.
Keep running around in circles.

OneTemplate:
OP is an irredeemable joker. Very sentimental, feudal, clannish and highly immature in thinking. Indicative of the average Igbo really.

Imagine the dross he is celebrating as a 'dawn' of Igbo political pragmatism. In reality, and as usual, I only see the historical cowardice, fence-sitting, 'food is ready' behavior and self-serving treachery Igbo leaders and, by extension, Igbo people are famous for.

Can't blame the OP sha. When you are on the losing side every day you tend to desperately celebrate anything as a victory. Lol.

The VAT issue is a fight for the fiscal federalism and true restructuring we all claim to want. It is not something anyone should play politics with. Especially Southerners.

The more we chip away at historically unjust policies and practices, the quicker a fairer Nigeria emerges. Yet we know Igbos do not want that.

Historically, Igbos have always supported and will always support what is detrimental for Nigeria only to begin acting up and causing conflict (civil war) and violent secessionist strife (as seen today) when they do not get their way and cannot control/dominate others or commandeer their resources as they wish.

Our 'turncoat' Igbos brothers have historically been the group most guilty of betraying and frustrating developments that could have had the greatest positive impact on Nigeria's development.

For example, think Azikiwe deliberately and connivingly colluding with the North , before British adjudicators, to frustrate Awolowo's effort to insert a secession clause in our constitution that would allow any region unhappy with Nigeria's union to secede peacefully and legally.

Think Aguyi Ironsi and his devastatingly damaging unitary decree that set the course for what Nigeria is today.

Consider Ojukwu Biafra war that was motivated by nothing else other than the desperation to sieze and control ND crude oil endowment.

Kaduna Nzeogwu "Igbo coup" nko?

All these historical acts of treachery because Igbos, with their barren land, remain obsessed with controlling the verdant and mineral-rich land of others.


No decent student of history will be surprised by what Igbos are doing today.

We had a better chance at fiscal federalism under a Southern president like GEJ, but you children of hate destroyed everything out of your innate Igbophobia and implanted Buhari just to play second fiddle.
And you are here talking of wanting fiscal federalism?

Was Aburi not Fiscal federalism? Didn't you all join the North to scuttle it just to play second fiddle again?

Secession clause? I never knew Zik pointed gun at Awolowo and Balewa to accept not having secession clause. You want secession clause but never fought for it, you were easily convinced by Zik without a gun to drop it, and when you had the chance to stand by secession clause, you rather helped Gowon dissolve the regions and created dysfunctional entities called states.
Now you talk of fiscal federalism? Are you dense?

Look where your hate driven politics has landed NIGERIA today. Just because GEJ was being fair with Igbos, you lots used to having lion share while Igbos made do with crumbs couldn't contain your hate and wickedness, and for this , you saddled the country with a failure like Buhari just to get at Igbos.

Were you all not rejoicing here the day GEJ lost? You didn't remember Southern Solidarity then? Let me guess you were all hailing yourselves for playing a treacherous selfish shortsighted politics you labelled as "suffersticated" politics, has the suffer not gone round now? Ibos no Sabi politics, Ibos no Sabi politics, Ibos put all their eggs in one basket, Jagaban is a Political guru, bla bla bla, that was how you were all sounding like broken records you all were in the immediate 2015 presidential election era.

And When buhari started off with labelling Ndiigbo 5% were you not in Dreamland? After all that has always been your greatest happiness,seeing Igbos discriminated, humiliated or marginalized. It was worth throwing the Southern Agenda and solidarity we were building under GEJ under the bus for you lots.

Now your wickedness is dealing with you and you are back with your treachery claiming to be fighting for southern cause. Your brains no correct, I swear.

Una go cry tire. Wait till the result of the VAT case is out. Una never see anything. There will never be peace for the wicked.

Ovamboland:
You just confirmed it was Igbos that has delivered Nigeria into the hands of Fulani with legs and hands bound right from independence. But you never take responsibility for anything.

Just as you and Ohaneze became shell shocked that incumbents can lose elections in Nigeria so shall you be shocked again as your Fulani will fail again.

As usual you can't read changes to the political climate and seasons.

I won't school you here anymore, your eyes will get cleared in a year and half, then you can go and join the terrorist IPOB ESN with your full chest after your next political defeat.

You overrate yourselves.

You stupidly ganged up with the Fulanis to hand over power to them by overthrowing a Southern president just for a reward of being their second fiddle.

Now you are tired of second fiddle and want to treacherously claim to be fighting for a Southern cause?
It looks like your foolishness is endemic.

It's common sense that whenever the North team up with a Southern zone, and the rest of the South stay together, the North and Southern zone combo coasts to victory.
It's a simple game of maths and numbers.

You did nothing extraordinary in 2015, you only showed your short-sightedness and greed, considering that same Buhari had been offering Igbos that same VP position since 2007 and 2003, yet knowing his antecedents, we turned our backs on him.
But a set of blind people calling themselves sophisticated people went and put the whole country on penury, driven only by their hate for Igbo, they thought they were hurting Igbos in 2015 by handing power to the North.

Don't be silly. If you know how to win elections without the North, Awolowo wouldn't have been frustrated all his life. The only time he came to prominence was when he accepted to play second fiddle to the North from 1967 to 1978. Not dissimilar to Tinubu between 2015 to 2022.

SweetiliciousD:
That Nigeria is fraudulent state is a given mindset?


That the system is designed to perpetually subjugate Igbo is a given mindset?


That Igbo is tired of Nigeria and want out is a given mindset?


That, Nigeria only favours the corrupt politicians and the Co-traveller power merchants who will never support a saner Nation is a given mindset?

That you cannot complain when you give consent under any legal setting is a given mindset?

Please address each of the assertions above!

The downtrodden Igbo man is venting his anger and you are preaching participation in an election that never reflect their collective will.... I am struggling to understand!

The subjugation has reached its crescendo and Igbo wants out.

I am tempted to believe you are one of the politicians or their paid agent.

I'm not a paid Political agent.
I'm just an Igbo commoner like you.

Every system has a loophole, a chink in it's armour you can exploit if only you can come close enough to see it.

You are letting your emotions do the thinking for you.

You can do better nwanne.

I Never argued against you that NIGERIA of 1970 was built on top of subjugation of the Igbo.
It's a fact we have starring at us as Igbos.

But we can't uncouple and unravel NIGERIA by fighting outside her gates, which is exactly what IPOB and MASSOB have been doing.
We can do better damage by seemlessly melting into Nigerian and work on her from inside.
Like a Trojan horse

Ekealterego:
The irony is that, if you research well amongst them and in their groups, there is no one more obsessed about Biafra than Ebonyi people... You know what is even more alarming, even those that some groups like Ezzas consider "strangers" like the Orring (Effium) people are more obsessed about it, from Ezza-Effium to Igbo Imabana in Cross-River. state.

I guess some of these outsiders too think too hard about the "Ebonyi inferiority tag''... because they are sourcing for any iota of information they can use to cause further division, they believe that this strategy will work.... I watch your best friend Juliusmawhatever tried this strategy for years to no avail... The Ebonyi jokes are just light-hearted sibling banter...this doesn't mean every Igbo doesn't love them to death.... and this tag does not even extend to all, because Afikpo people for instance can stand their own against any Igbo group.

Despite the economic or educational disadvantage they had faced in the past, they are gradually doing better than most state in other geographic zone and definitely better than ALL the northern states... They have faired better than Oyo, Osun and Ondo state for instance in WAEC, JAMB and STEM courses.

Like every igbo group, those guys are obsessive hard workers, however, strong legitimate hustlers...

People who think they can use the Ebonyi agenda as a tool for division are wasting their time.

Ebonyi people are the most patriotic people to Igbo cause among all Igbo clans .
You don't even need to tell me that, I schooled at Ebonyi state.

The people are strongly pro Biafra. Not even Umahi threat could stop them from observing the Biafran heroes day.

If there is an Igbo clan you can trust to selflessly sacrifice for Igbo cause, it would be those our Ikwo, Izzi, Ezza and Ngbo brothers.

Yes. Some stupid Igbos especially those of us from Anambra and Imo and Abia have in the past tried to banter them because we felt they were a little too laid back and backwards.
But Ebonyi people have taken up the challenge and have levelled up rapidly in all aspects of human development.

Their humble and loyal nature meant that many Anambra and Imo traders took them as "boyis" and today many of them have all become established in their line of businesses.
These new brand of Ebonyi successful business men are the ones now funding the education of their siblings back home, creating a ripple effect.

Igbo bu ofu. No Ebonyi man will ever deny his Igbo identity, they are proudly Igbo and wear it as a badge of honor.
Was it not just a few years ago that Chief Igariwey took Ebonyi turn of presidency of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo?

Any one thinking there is a rift between Igbo clans in Ebonyi and the rest of Igbo clans in SE to exploit is living in a fool's paradise.

Tranquill:
You expect them to comment when it's not about Ikwerre, Ijaw, Yoruba, Ogoni, Fulani etc?
I see how they just peep on the thread to read comments and then disappear lolz.

This one shock them.

Not really.

Other parts of Nigeria have blackmailed the Igbo enough with Biafra.
It has become logical that the only way we can get Biafra politically is by dropping/denying Biafra.
It is a paradox.

Umahi is in order. He is telling Igbophobic peeps like yourself exactly what you want to hear.
It's not a bad strategy.

Let him and Igbo elites who believe in Political solution to BIAFRA bring their A game, let IPOB bring their A game too.

Both are not actually mutually exclusive.

Umahi position is understandable.
To get Biafra , Ndiigbo must temporary give up Biafra.
Umahi and the political elites in Igboland have seen this.
The masses and IPOB are being reactionary.

Ovamboland:
You forgot Azikiwe threw away the chance to be first Prime Minister to be become first president (ceremonial) but his boys became Senate president and first VC, first Army Chief.

In 1979, Igbo also became VP and speaker at the same time, 9 years after civil war, leaving Yoruba that did not lose a war in the cold. Then in 1979, your people bragged how far they've left Yoruba behind in playing politics.

Stop distorting narratives.
By 1979 9yrs after the end of the civil war. Awolowo and Yorubas were tired of playing second fiddle to the North and were pushing the North to hand over power to them, while as usual hiding it behind a Southern agenda.

Zik being a cunning man knew time was ripe to displace Yorubas from the second fiddle they got too used to and were now mounting a challenge for number 1.
After your role in civil war, there was no chance in hell that you were going to get help from the East to challenge the North.

Either way, in 1979, Zik, Awolowo and Shagari were three front runners. But in real terms, it was the North vs West, as both competed to win Igbo over.
So Igbos were VP to both Awolowo and Shagari.
Once Shagari won, we easily became VP. And should Awolowo have won, we would have still been VP.
And mind you, all SE votes went to Zik mainly and not to Shagari or Awolowo. We refused to be drawn into your fight with the North, we played it neutral and reaped bountifully while you were left with nothing.

2023 is shaping up like 1979 all over again. After your role in ousting GEJ by backing the North, you are here again preaching southern unity but Ndiigbo will not be fooled. Like in 1979, you are already tired of the second fiddle VP, so you want to challenge the North for the number one position again by invoking a non-existent southern vs Northern fight. You will repeat history because we can see through all your treachery.

You will not win us over in your imminent showdown with the North, we will play the same 1979 card on you.
We stay neutral and once your defeat is about confirmed we will side with the North and dislodge you again.

We will let the North keep it all. VAT you will not see, we will support the FG collect the VAT and share to all while we ensure we contribute as minimal VAT as possible, you must finance one NIGERIA, you can shout parasite all you want, but we don't even care.

You see this one NIGERIA, una Yoruba go run in the future, when the weight become too much, and then it will be pay back time for us when you attempt to leave the union.

Watch and see.

Ovamboland:
It's a gentle.man agreement to rotate between north and south and it can then be competed for at zonal level. It's not known to Nigerian law.

In 1999 all interested aspirants from all southern zones competed including Obasanjo and jewelry I think some northern aspirants like Rimi. In APP/AD, Falae, Bola Ige, Shinkafi and Onu all competed and Falae emerged.

I don't know who sold the dud information to you that everybody else not from SW was stopped from aspiring to the presidency. All been said is if you're certain it's the turn of SE, come out and compete in the political parties where you have presence, consult and get a following from party members and leaders.

You can't sit in your house and demand everyone should travel to come and convince your politicians to show interest. Those who were called in their house must have paid some due your people are yet to pay.

If you're worthy of being president, you can't be scared of defeating any southern aspirant in the south in a primary contest.

I would advise you go through the whole thread before your replies as I had already cleared the issues you are raising in your replies.

Thanks.

SweetiliciousD:
Igbos know better. You have your thought and Igbos too.

He who gives consent need not complain. It is a maxim in law.

Nigeria is designed for you to Labour for that puzzle and Igbos refused to go that way.

The game is on. You know the heat of having an unpopular government and I bet it you won't be proud to head one.

The game is on. Legitimacy no drawn from the people...... You may fill in the gap.

All hail Biafra.

You have no game to play if you refuse to play by boycotting.
It's actually an acceptance of defeat to boycott elections or anything at all.

You people should stop this deranged mindset.
Boycotting elections will not get you any Biafra.
You will end up proving a stupid point, which is that we no longer want NIGERIA. A point the whole world already know as we had already proved it in 1967-70.

You will not get Biafra by boycotting elections, just as you didn't get Biafra by boycotting 2006 census like MASSOB and Uwazurike preached.
You only make it easier for enemies to politically decimate us the more.

Think about this biko. Don't just swallow things fed to you from a radio verbatim, you are an Igbo, an Igbo generally have independent mind and not one to give in to hive mindset.

Fejoku:
I didn't want to comment until I read this comment. You clearly don't understand or know the worth of IPOB. Let me just make it clear to you today that the convulsion the powers that be in Nigeria are suffering today is because of IPOB. This alone should make you never to ever speak low of us.
My long time expectation from your type (ndi ozizo-ochichi obodo umuanumanu) is what you are doing in this thread which I applaud. You must know how to prod (make your arguments) without blunting the tip of your spear. We all are fighting for the good of our land and people.
Let me reiterate that we have no future in Nigeria (not in the 60s, not today and not in the future). It was the same factor in the 60s that led to the coup. The best chance we ever had to mould Nigeria as we wanted and give her the best opportunity to develop with all her constituent parts developing at their pace was during Aguiyi Ironsi's time. His lack of vision and strategy cost us what we are suffering today. Most of you guys who want us to play the Zik pattern of politics truly don't learn from history. Zik's politics was ineffective which made the young majors to intervene. If it was, they won't have involved themselves. This is a coward politics I must say because the only condition Sardauna gave for his region to be in Nigeria is if they are allowed to dominate Nigeria politically. This is the position of his descendants till today. Our best bet is to ask for equality which we know they will reject leaving us with only one option which is division. As it is in Sudan so it is in Nigeria. THERE'S NO ANY OTHER WAY. Reason with me and you will come to see the point.
If you insist on playing Ziks brand of politics for the few crumbs of portfolios and contracts, you will forever live under the threat of a religious conquest. Zik was a ceremonial president when the open threat of dipping the Koran in the ocean comment was made. Zik was in power when the Western region was destabilized by the north for the sole purpose of conquering them through a willing slave called Samuel Akintola. Zik was there when Awo was incarcerated and Ahmadu Bello rejoicing that his party- the AG has been defeated and his region subjugated. If the young majors never intervened, the north would have consolidated their grip on the Western region and Lagos where they will gather enough resources and strategic position to launch their conquest on the Eastern region. How then could we be able to fight off such a situation? You must realize that the stupid competition between Igbos and Yorubas as to who will be the bitch of the beastly north doesn't help any of us in the long run. This is the truth. I hate the current posturing of some Yorubas here who know that it is the turn of the SE to get the support of the whole South for the Presidential race but choose to greedily want to front their own person. It is an insult and demeaning to even assume such but we must tell them to their faces that it won't help any of us in the long run. We must learn from history. They must see reason for equity's sake to support the SE this time around. On our side, playing their brand of politics which is opportunistic always leaves all of us in the South vulnerable. We can't afford such in this generation.
In summary, I'll highlight the chronicles of events that shaped our history and the trajectory our current decisions will follow if we don't learn from them.

1957 (motion for independence)
The north was not ready citing fears of the East and West bonding to rule Nigeria in perpetuity. She demanded to be given a majority in the parliament so that she will have a say in determining whoever will become the head of the government. The South foolishly agrees with Zik strongly against the secession clause to which others agreed.
1960 (Independence)
Ahmadu Bello was credited with the infamous saying that this new country shall be the estate of his great grand father by which they will ruthlessly prevent the others from controlling their destiny by using the minorities of the north as cannon fodder and sellout from the South as willing tools.
Before then, Zik's NCNC won in the Presidential polls but had to form a unity government with Balewa's NPC because he didn't get up the requirement for only NCNC to form a single government. One would expect ZIK (a Doctorate holder) as the winner to become prime minister while Balewa( a grade 6 teacher) the runner up to be the president but reverse was the case. Today we now know that the British blackmailed Zik into accepting that set up for their own selfish reasons. Does it resemble the ACN/CPC merger of 2015 (Professor Osinbajo/Controversial statement of result holder Buhari)?
Zik thought he could wriggle his way up with time but Ahmadu Bello had his own plans too.
1962 (Operation Weti'e)
When regional politics began, the Western region had two strong bulls fighting for control and that was the avenue for Ahmadu Bello to exploit in capturing the region. Through the federal support Akintola got, Awo was jailed in 1963 paving the way for NPC in the West as Bello boasted about his conquest. Zik could only watch having made no head way in his own plan. He was more satisfied with the crumbs of political appointments while Nigeria was very tensed. Compare with Osinbajo today.
1966 Coup d'etat
Ironsi suddenly had government under his control but could not do anything with it. He could not protect his fellow tribesmen neither did he try equipping and defending the South incase of any major fracas even with all the signs before him. Eventually he was killed and the rest is history.
Summarily, the naivety of both Azikiwe and Akintola in thinking that working with the north will benefit their region all turned wrong. Both regions suffered under such set up irrespective of the crumbs that they got from such association. Our generation can do better and must do better. Enough of playing second fiddle. There's nothing to benefit from it. Few juicy positions and contracts with the threat of conquest hanging over your head shouldn't be enticing to educated people.
The SW and SS must realize that they have to support the SE as the only region in the South yet to produce a president. This is the right process towards equity.

The SW and SS will not realize anything. It's been 50yrs and they have not realize anything.

Some of you don't understand what is going on.
We have a SS and SW problem. The more you show desperation for BIAFRA, the more those zones will have a bargaining chip to hold over the North, who would gladly take all our share to pacify them and keep them happy with the Nigerian project, while we are left with nothing. Ndiigbo can't continue offering our head to be used to break the proverbial coconut.

It's an endless circle that we are in, and you can't continue repeating same things and expect different result.

The people we are up against don't listen to emotions, fairness or equity.

We have to play them within same set of rules they understand.

Infact, the easiest way we can get BIAFRA is by temporary denouncing Biafra.

By doing this, we leave SS and SW with no bargaining chip over the North.
And we make sure both of them bear the full financial burden of Nigeria until their back break and they become the ones up in arms fighting the North to be free.
At which point we will still claim one NIGERIA, watch them fight the North and get decimated, and just when both sides are depleted from the confrontation, we make a break for Biafra jeje.

To get Biafra, we have to embrace NIGERIA.
It's a paradox!

SweetiliciousD:
Ndewo nwafo Igbo

Uche gi di nma. Ihe I kwesiri ighota is that Nigeria, its systems and constitution are all fraudulent.

The constitution upon which your government and its elections stand claims. "We the people of Nigeria agree......" and it was signed by just one person, a fulani junta. Also, all the fraudulent draconian decrees of the fulani juntas have been adopted as the act of the House of assembly. What a fraud.

Were you or our fathers consulted and they agreed to be ONE Nigeria? The answer is hell NO. Obviously in law, what is built on fraud is untra vires ab Initio hence Igbo cannot waste our time correcting intelligently crafted fraud in Nigeria.

Telling Igbos to solve the fraudulent puzzle meant to hold them perpetually down is another fraud. The same constitution stated near impossible condition for its amendment. Igbo mara Ihe karia ndi Nigeria, hence their methodology.

I stand to be corrected cos adopting your approach is a testament that we Igbos are not serious. Let us keep speaking out the way we have been voicing out thru social withdrawal method which in itself is a 100% YES referendum result already.

Any other voice aside that of the people is noise and such noise has been drowned already.

I welcome your constructive engagement.


Igbo bu Igbo

All hail Biafra.

Nwanne.
I'm aware of all you wrote.
But strong entities are better destroyed from inside and not outside.
It's unfair what we have to deal with , but do we continue wallowing in self pity and let enemies have their way?
Mba! Every system has a loophole, but to find it, you have to get in,which is why World power Governments all over the world spend hard to have moles and persons of power planted in smaller countries they want to control.

The Greeks fought outside the walls of Troy fruitlessly for years with no result until they figured a way to sneak themselves into Troy.
Complex entities like NIGERIA can only be destroyed from within.
This cannot be overemphasized.

We MUST solve the Nigerian Political puzzle if we must have Biafra.

Withdrawing from elections sadly will not solve anything. The world will not come to your rescue, every super power have groups who want to secede from them who they are resisting. Russia has Chechyna, China has Tibet, USA have some lousy people down south who want independence too if it's that free, Britain has Scotland, France have theirs as well. It is a bit naive to think that once you boycott elections, the world will come and conduct referendum for you. This was how Uwazurike and MASSOB confused people into believing that boycotting 2006 Census was an effective means of getting Biafra, which resulted in undercounting of Igboland, which has continued to affect us today.
I don't know how some of us come up with these funny theories that boycotting anything solves anything.
It sounds more like a coward way out. You solve nothing with boycott.

We will end up making Anambra an APC state with election boycott.

proeast:
The fat fool is so senseless that he doesn't know those in authority may decide to eliminate him now and drop a cardboard paper with the inscription unknown gunmen

They may decide to that in hopes of pitching minorities against Igbos which would be a win win for them by scattering southern unity.

I know he has no sense but people around him should advice him to stay away from Eastern Nigeria now.

Dokubo is not different from the average minority in SS.
His mindset mirrors theirs. We keep saying this time without number, but IPOB will not listen.

proeast:
Every irrelevant fool in Nigeria now believe that insulting Igbos is the easiest way to gain attention. A mere tout whose only achievement was to organize juvenile delinquents to bomb pipelines and kidnapp oil workers for ransom thinks he has an opinion about Igbos.

This fat fool and his entire ethnicity can not stand Igbos in anything of worth but he hides somewhere to utter fabricated gibberish.

If this fat fool has an iota of sense, he would be channeling his energy in fighting for their rights. The oil is mainly in the Niger Delta yet there is no development of worth in the region except pollution, poverty and deprivation but they keep seeing Igbos as their problem and easy way to gain cheap attention.

Even the least Igbo man has more sense than this fat fool. He has gotten his 2 minutes attention and soon he would fade into obscurity again.

IPOB stupid Multiethnic BIAFRA is what have given irrelevant persons from insignificant minority groups to now be talking to Ndiigbo anyhow.
Never forget this.

SweetiliciousD:
Gibberish.

A nachota ala tutuu achoba oche!

Biafra first before Rubbish Nigerian political puzzle!

Good proverb. Only problem is that you couldn't rightly identify what Ala and Oche represents in our present conundrum.

Let me break it down to you.

Ala is what you don't have control over , Oche is what you have somewhere and can bring in once you have secured Ala!

What we don't have control over is Nigeria( Igbo part of Nigeria). We have to do something to solve the Nigerian Political puzzle.
Once we do that, we can now bring in the "Oche" which BIAFRA represents.

Trying to bring Oche(Biafra) before securing the Ala(Nigerian politics), is what we have been doing wrong since 1999.

Catalonia has secured ALA, now they are trying hard to smuggle in the Oche. While we are busy putting the cart before the horse in Igboland.

It's about time we retraced our steps and imbibe the teaching of the ancient Igbo aphorism you just quoted, secure the Ala and you came seamlessly sneak in the Oche.

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